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When water turns a water wheel you still have just as much water after it's turned the wheel. I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. Electricity flows downhill? Why do you think DC wiring diagrams always show positive circuits on top? |
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Trolling this badly make you look almost as dumb as a 14'er.
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Drain the hose at the gas station.
Don't let extra gas you paid for go to waste....or the next guy.... |
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I'm not a electrician. Why would I know? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Because you (supposedly) are not a fucking caveman? If this is trolling, then then only reason it's effective is because there really are that many people who have no clue how anything works. |
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Holy shit.
Don't forget to drain the electricity from any cord you use. I have never been in my basement. The lightning bouncing around down there is crazy. I will sell loads of electric dirt to any of you who need to power anything and don't want to run wires. My house was built in 1965 so it should have lots of drained electricity in the dirt. |
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Quoted: So, this 75degree scale is what I personally always use, as opposed to the 90degree scale, because damn near all lugs on a breaker are rated for 60/75degrees but not 90. You see, any circuit rating is only as strong as its weakest link. If a conductor is sized based on the 90 scale but the lug isn't, than the lug will potentially get hotter than it is rated for and fail. Now some of you are saying that there are lugs rated for 90degrees and you would be correct but many circuit breakers are not made with these lugs. Always check the temp rating of your termination lugs. Look for a marking like 'AL9CU' or 'CU9AL. The letters mean that it is rated for both copper & aluminum while the 9 means that it is 90degree rated. If the '9' was a '7' than it is only rated for 75degrees. TL:DR OP doesn't understand electricity... View Quote |
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Quoted: A friend and I were just arguing about electricity, something neither of us knows much about. Say you setup a little generator. The positive red "hot" wire from generator runs to a fan and the "black" wire comes out of the fan and runs back to the generator. The electricity "flows" round and round. The "unused" electricity coming out of the fan goes back to the generator. But in your house the hot wire flows in from the power pole, thru stuff like a light bulb, but instead of sending the unused electricity coming out the light bulb back to the power plant, they just drain it into the ground. Why? Seems like a waste of energy. And where does all that power draining into the ground go? My friend said it actually flows thru the ground back to the power plant but it all gets used up by the resistance of the earth. I guess is it's cheaper to just drain it into the ground than to have to run a 2nd wire all the way back to the plant? Kinda like if the power company pumped water to your house that spun a waterwheel. They could either run a 2nd pipe to return the water back to the power plant or just dump it out on the ground. Someone that knows electricity please explain how this really works in layman's terminology. View Quote |
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Yes. This was quite a problem early on when they had to carry electricity upstairs in buckets. Many families were broken up by arguments as to who's turn it was to fetch a pail of electricity upstairs. Luckily the elevator was invented to end this chore although in some rural areas the bucket method is still used to this day. And now you know the rest of the story. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When water turns a water wheel you still have just as much water after it's turned the wheel. I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. Electricity flows downhill? Yes. This was quite a problem early on when they had to carry electricity upstairs in buckets. Many families were broken up by arguments as to who's turn it was to fetch a pail of electricity upstairs. Luckily the elevator was invented to end this chore although in some rural areas the bucket method is still used to this day. And now you know the rest of the story. Electricity is actually composed of little tiny balls called "electrons". It is a known fact that if you drop an electron and a bowling ball at exactly the same time from exactly the same height, they will hit the ground at exactly the same time. |
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A friend and I were just arguing about electricity, something neither of us knows much about. Say you setup a little generator. The positive red "hot" wire from generator runs to a fan and the "black" wire comes out of the fan and runs back to the generator. The electricity "flows" round and round. The "unused" electricity coming out of the fan goes back to the generator. But in your house the hot wire flows in from the power pole, thru stuff like a light bulb, but instead of sending the unused electricity coming out the light bulb back to the power plant, they just drain it into the ground. Why? Seems like a waste of energy. And where does all that power draining into the ground go? My friend said it actually flows thru the ground back to the power plant but it all gets used up by the resistance of the earth. I guess is it's cheaper to just drain it into the ground than to have to run a 2nd wire all the way back to the plant? Kinda like if the power company pumped water to your house that spun a waterwheel. They could either run a 2nd pipe to return the water back to the power plant or just dump it out on the ground. Someone that knows electricity please explain how this really works in layman's terminology. View Quote There is a little known 1800's law that stated that all electricity produced must be a green energy. To meet that requirement electric companies return unused electrons to the earth. The big issue is that most customers haven't figured it out like you have. You pay for all the electricity and all of the unused goes right back to the ground for the company to sell to the next guy. One day the earth will run out of electrons due to us using them up and the lights will go off. To keep my lights on, I've buried barrels and put the ground cable into them. I'm not letting my electrons go back to the electric company. When the power goes out, I just go out and connect a jumper cable from my stored electrons to the "hot" pole of the service panel. My neighbors always are jealous and think that I have a really quiet generator. Snark, silly bastages just don't know how electrons work. |
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Quoted: Electricity is actually composed of little tiny balls called "electrons". It is a known fact that if you drop an electron and a bowling ball at exactly the same time from exactly the same height, they will hit the ground at exactly the same time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: When water turns a water wheel you still have just as much water after it's turned the wheel. I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. Electricity flows downhill? Yes. This was quite a problem early on when they had to carry electricity upstairs in buckets. Many families were broken up by arguments as to who's turn it was to fetch a pail of electricity upstairs. Luckily the elevator was invented to end this chore although in some rural areas the bucket method is still used to this day. And now you know the rest of the story. Electricity is actually composed of little tiny balls called "electrons". It is a known fact that if you drop an electron and a bowling ball at exactly the same time from exactly the same height, they will hit the ground at exactly the same time. |
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And when you turn on a light there is STILL 120v...... The light doesn't use 20v and leave 100v for the rest of the circuit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When water turns a water wheel you still have just as much water after it's turned the wheel. I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. The light doesn't use 20v and leave 100v for the rest of the circuit. Yes if you have 6 light bulbs of the same wattage in series then each bulb will use 20 volts. |
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Electricity is actually composed of little tiny balls called "electrons". It is a known fact that if you drop an electron and a bowling ball at exactly the same time from exactly the same height, they will hit the ground at exactly the same time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When water turns a water wheel you still have just as much water after it's turned the wheel. I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. Electricity flows downhill? Yes. This was quite a problem early on when they had to carry electricity upstairs in buckets. Many families were broken up by arguments as to who's turn it was to fetch a pail of electricity upstairs. Luckily the elevator was invented to end this chore although in some rural areas the bucket method is still used to this day. And now you know the rest of the story. Electricity is actually composed of little tiny balls called "electrons". It is a known fact that if you drop an electron and a bowling ball at exactly the same time from exactly the same height, they will hit the ground at exactly the same time. Newtonion physics works best if you remember to account for resistance, think of it as always being on a treadmill. Tomorrow, we can discuss why the speed of Dark must always be equal to the speed of light. |
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Quoted: The part in blue is actually correct. If you generate more current than you use, power companies are required to buy it from you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: OP did you know you can sell power back to the power company ? Call them about your unused electricity The part in blue is actually correct. If you generate more current than you use, power companies are required to buy it from you. |
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What's worse? OPs concept, or the fact he posted this on ARFcom?
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Either I missed it or you guys are slipping.
OP, here's your sine. |
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Is OP the guy that round that round urinal a couple of days ago?
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Quoted: When water turns a water wheel you still have just as much water after it's turned the wheel. I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. View Quote I'm now thinking I ought to look into building an electricity storage tank on the roof for when the water pump goes out. |
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I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. View Quote Actually this analogy is pretty accurate. Water comes into your house through the water main, gets used in a sink or appliance, then the dirty water goes into the sewer and sent to the water plant. It is then cleaned and filtered so it can be reused. The energetic electricity comes in on the wires, gets used by your appliances, and the ground is the electrical sewer, returning the used electricity to the power plant where the used up electrons are replaced with new energetic ones. This is also why smart meters save you money. They don't just measure the total amount of electricity that flows through them, they check back with the powerplant and only charge you for the used electrons. |
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I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. Actually this analogy is pretty accurate. Water comes into your house through the water main, gets used in a sink or appliance, then the dirty water goes into the sewer and sent to the water plant. It is then cleaned and filtered so it can be reused. The energetic electricity comes in on the wires, gets used by your appliances, and the ground is the electrical sewer, returning the used electricity to the power plant where the used up electrons are replaced with new energetic ones. This is also why smart meters save you money. They don't just measure the total amount of electricity that flows through them, they check back with the powerplant and only charge you for the used electrons. http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p664/RIP-Yataski/GIF/C2C5EA63-1858-4B92-A0AD-5360873C2B5A_zpsmkxn44mq.gif Yeah, lol. All the people in here poking fun of the OP and it seems only a small handful here actually know what's going on. |
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I think the water analogy fails on some folks because they assume a power generation plant is like a resevior that needs to be replenished some how. Water itself has some cash value because if we use it all we have to find more, so you're paying for the movement of water to your house plus the water itself. In the power grid electrons have no cash value, they don't need to be replenished, everything you're paying for is simply the movement of an endless supply of electrons through wire.
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I think the water analogy fails on some folks because they assume a power generation plant is like a resevior that needs to be replenished some how. Water itself has some cash value because if we use it all we have to find more, so you're paying for the movement of water to your house plus the water itself. In the power grid electrons have no cash value, they don't need to be replenished, everything you're paying for is simply the movement of an endless supply of electrons through wire. View Quote And there is very little actual movement of electrons, it's the energy that flows. A better analogy would be waves moving through water. |
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And there is very little actual movement of electrons, it's the energy that flows. A better analogy would be waves moving through water. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the water analogy fails on some folks because they assume a power generation plant is like a resevior that needs to be replenished some how. Water itself has some cash value because if we use it all we have to find more, so you're paying for the movement of water to your house plus the water itself. In the power grid electrons have no cash value, they don't need to be replenished, everything you're paying for is simply the movement of an endless supply of electrons through wire. And there is very little actual movement of electrons, it's the energy that flows. A better analogy would be waves moving through water. What is this energy you speak of?... |
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And there is very little actual movement of electrons, it's the energy that flows. A better analogy would be waves moving through water. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the water analogy fails on some folks because they assume a power generation plant is like a resevior that needs to be replenished some how. Water itself has some cash value because if we use it all we have to find more, so you're paying for the movement of water to your house plus the water itself. In the power grid electrons have no cash value, they don't need to be replenished, everything you're paying for is simply the movement of an endless supply of electrons through wire. And there is very little actual movement of electrons, it's the energy that flows. A better analogy would be waves moving through water. Yep. I have used the water hose analogy go demonstrate amps vs volts before. And its a good analogy for that but any further and it falls apart. |
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I think the water analogy fails on some folks because they assume a power generation plant is like a resevior that needs to be replenished some how. Water itself has some cash value because if we use it all we have to find more, so you're paying for the movement of water to your house plus the water itself. In the power grid electrons have no cash value, they don't need to be replenished, everything you're paying for is simply the movement of an endless supply of electrons through wire. And there is very little actual movement of electrons, it's the energy that flows. A better analogy would be waves moving through water. What is this energy you speak of?... It is what you are actually paying for. Watch the waves on a beach and you will see the water moves up and down as energy flows in the direction of the waves, but there is actually very little horizontal movement of the water. Electrical energy moves through wires in much the same way. Another good visual is the kinetic toy with hanging metal bearings. raise the bearing on one end and the energy from that bearing is transmitted through the bearings to the other end with very little physical movement of the bearings. |
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It is what you are actually paying for. Watch the waves on a beach and you will see the water moves up and down as energy flows in the direction of the waves, but there is actually very little horizontal movement of the water. Electrical energy moves through wires in much the same way. Another good visual is the kinetic toy with hanging metal bearings. raise the bearing on one end and the energy from that bearing is transmitted through the bearings to the other end with very little physical movement of the bearings. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the water analogy fails on some folks because they assume a power generation plant is like a resevior that needs to be replenished some how. Water itself has some cash value because if we use it all we have to find more, so you're paying for the movement of water to your house plus the water itself. In the power grid electrons have no cash value, they don't need to be replenished, everything you're paying for is simply the movement of an endless supply of electrons through wire. And there is very little actual movement of electrons, it's the energy that flows. A better analogy would be waves moving through water. What is this energy you speak of?... It is what you are actually paying for. Watch the waves on a beach and you will see the water moves up and down as energy flows in the direction of the waves, but there is actually very little horizontal movement of the water. Electrical energy moves through wires in much the same way. Another good visual is the kinetic toy with hanging metal bearings. raise the bearing on one end and the energy from that bearing is transmitted through the bearings to the other end with very little physical movement of the bearings. Oh, so you mean watts. We pay based on watts, or kilowatts, consumed. Some large consumers actually pay, or get fined due to, poor power factor also but I digress. Watts do not flow, get used or even exist. Watts, or power, is simply the answer to a math equation that is used to determine how much amperage is drawn based on the voltage applied through the impedance of the system. |
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Quoted: Oh, so you mean watts. We pay based on watts, or kilowatts, consumed. Some large consumers actually pay, or get fined due to, poor power factor also but I digress. Watts do not flow, get used or even exist. Watts, or power, is simply the answer to a math equation that is used to determine how much amperage is drawn based on the voltage applied through the impedance of the system. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think the water analogy fails on some folks because they assume a power generation plant is like a resevior that needs to be replenished some how. Water itself has some cash value because if we use it all we have to find more, so you're paying for the movement of water to your house plus the water itself. In the power grid electrons have no cash value, they don't need to be replenished, everything you're paying for is simply the movement of an endless supply of electrons through wire. And there is very little actual movement of electrons, it's the energy that flows. A better analogy would be waves moving through water. What is this energy you speak of?... It is what you are actually paying for. Watch the waves on a beach and you will see the water moves up and down as energy flows in the direction of the waves, but there is actually very little horizontal movement of the water. Electrical energy moves through wires in much the same way. Another good visual is the kinetic toy with hanging metal bearings. raise the bearing on one end and the energy from that bearing is transmitted through the bearings to the other end with very little physical movement of the bearings. Oh, so you mean watts. We pay based on watts, or kilowatts, consumed. Some large consumers actually pay, or get fined due to, poor power factor also but I digress. Watts do not flow, get used or even exist. Watts, or power, is simply the answer to a math equation that is used to determine how much amperage is drawn based on the voltage applied through the impedance of the system. Science is a LIE! It's all a lie! |
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How else are they supposed to recycle it?
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How else are they supposed to recycle it? You don't want to lug big containers of electricity back to the power plant. View Quote The part that's not used goes out the big smokestacks. That's why they are going on and on about carbon credits. See, even a nuclear plant like 3 Mile Island needs those big smoke stacks to emit the extra carbon from unused electricity. When you get to the huge nuke plants that are extremely powerful, they end up needing both a lake and the smoke stacks to dump all that excess carbon into. This is why you should always keep your lights on and your A/C set to 65°, it'll shut the liberals up. |
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When water turns a water wheel you still have just as much water after it's turned the wheel. I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. Electricity flows downhill? Yes. This was quite a problem early on when they had to carry electricity upstairs in buckets. Many families were broken up by arguments as to who's turn it was to fetch a pail of electricity upstairs. Luckily the elevator was invented to end this chore although in some rural areas the bucket method is still used to this day. And now you know the rest of the story. Electricity is actually composed of little tiny balls called "electrons". It is a known fact that if you drop an electron and a bowling ball at exactly the same time from exactly the same height, they will hit the ground at exactly the same time. Do you have a vacuum? Does your mum have a vacuum? No? How does she do the floors then? |
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A friend and I were just arguing about electricity, something neither of us knows much about. Say you setup a little generator. The positive red "hot" wire from generator runs to a fan and the "black" wire comes out of the fan and runs back to the generator. The electricity "flows" round and round. The "unused" electricity coming out of the fan goes back to the generator. But in your house the hot wire flows in from the power pole, thru stuff like a light bulb, but instead of sending the unused electricity coming out the light bulb back to the power plant, they just drain it into the ground. Why? Seems like a waste of energy. And where does all that power draining into the ground go? My friend said it actually flows thru the ground back to the power plant but it all gets used up by the resistance of the earth. I guess is it's cheaper to just drain it into the ground than to have to run a 2nd wire all the way back to the plant? Kinda like if the power company pumped water to your house that spun a waterwheel. They could either run a 2nd pipe to return the water back to the power plant or just dump it out on the ground. Someone that knows electricity please explain how this really works in layman's terminology. View Quote I don't get my meat from the farm, I get it from the grocery store... I don't get electricity from coal, I get it from transmission lines.... |
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When water turns a water wheel you still have just as much water after it's turned the wheel. I've heard that water and electricity are a lot alike in how they flow. View Quote I'm going to blow your mind, OP. The electricity in your house isn't going into the ground or back to the power company. It's just like water as you mention, except the electricity flows back and forth. Think of your water pipes and water wheel as if the water changed direction of flow every 10 seconds, except that electricity changes direction sixty times a second. If you dropped a little ball into that stream of water that changes direction every ten seconds, that ball wouldn't go anywhere, would it? The same thing is true of the electricity in your house. Yep, the electricity in your house's wires is the same electricity that they were filled with when the house was first connected to the power lines. Neat, hunh? |
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