Orlando hospitals won't charge nightclub shooting victims for care

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Posted: 8/26/2016 7:07:42 AM EDT

Two Florida hospitals will not seek payment of medical bills from the dozens of people treated for injuries suffered in the mass shooting at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando in June, officials at the health facilities said.

The move leaves the hospitals with estimated unreimbursed costs topping $5.5 million, they said on Thursday

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You can bet your ass the higher ups wont be losing any money to pay for this.

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:08:58 AM EDT

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Yes but the positive PR will more than make up for the shortfall.

If it was going to be a net loss for them they never would have done it.

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:09:22 AM EDT

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Gay privilege

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:27:18 AM EDT

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SEND the bill to iran

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:28:45 AM EDT

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Well the $5.5 mil is just a number they throw out there anyways.

They're probably really just losing like $30,000, and even that is probably high.

ETA: I didn't vote because I don't know. I do every bit of good I can, and I haven't charged people for being in way less shitty situations than that. I guess I'd say the hospital should have to bill, but the doctors/medics/nurses should be free to say they volunteered their time.

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:33:20 AM EDT

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If those victims don't pay their share, some else has to.

Fuck that!!

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:36:53 AM EDT

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That's a nice gesture but the other patients will be splitting the bill for it.

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:37:38 AM EDT

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Cool.
And when they're all recuperated, I'm very certain some of them should be deported too.

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:39:15 AM EDT

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Posted: 8/26/2016 7:42:24 AM EDT

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It's getting billed. Jist to others. Health care industry is inherently socialist. Just not government administered socialism.

Just glad they have the freedom to do it their way instead of the goverments. It would be bulls hit if they were forced to do this imho

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:44:07 AM EDT

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In this thread GD is already GD'ing.

Their business, their decision. A nice decision at that.

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:44:33 AM EDT

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Q: Where is the money coming from to pay for their care?

A: From you, and your insurance, and Obama's stash, and anybody else who actually pays their bill.

This is transparent and public political posturing, and it will cost other patients money.

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:45:03 AM EDT

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Why them and not other patients? Why does the guy with the gun shot deserve free treatment and the kid hit by a car doesn't?

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:48:55 AM EDT

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Yeah, I'm betting if they weren't gay they wouldn't be getting this treatment.

Posted: 8/26/2016 7:57:23 AM EDT

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Orlando Health said it will also explore other options to help victims with ongoing medical costs.

"These include state and federal funds, private insurance, victim funds like the One Orlando fund, disability insurance, Florida's crime victim compensation program, funding sources established for individual victims, means-tested programs like Medicaid, as well as charity care provided by Orlando Health," the hospital said in a statement.

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There's quite a bit of funding that they will tap, and I'll bet their cost estimate is ridiculously inflated, $50 aspirin SOP. They're going to end up with millions in free advertising for hundreds of thousands of dollars in real costs.

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:13:27 AM EDT

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SOMEBODY is going to pay for it......

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:13:27 AM EDT

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Double tap..

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:16:03 AM EDT

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HERP RABBLE GD DER

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:17:19 AM EDT

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Two Florida hospitals will not seek payment of medical bills from the dozens of people treated for injuries suffered in the mass shooting at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando in June, officials at the health facilities said.

The move leaves the hospitals with estimated unreimbursed costs topping $5.5 million, they said on Thursday

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You can bet your ass the higher ups wont be losing any money to pay for this.

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If that was their straight cost with an uninsured patient, they would have been reimbursed about $550,000.00 from insurance given the typical discounts.

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:22:06 AM EDT

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I thought everyone HAD to have insurance these days?

Good PR move for the hospital as mentioned. There business there rules but someone will pick up the tab and it won't be the board of directors.

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:24:29 AM EDT

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Suckers like you and me just foot the bill.

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:38:39 AM EDT

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They can do whatever they want. Im not sure why this is a question?

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:44:32 AM EDT

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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:46:07 AM EDT

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Their business, their decision. A nice decision at that.

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Worth a lot more in good free publicity than the cost of absorbing the bills.

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:48:40 AM EDT

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I've never actually read my health insurance policy, but I know that in every life insurance and home owner's insurance policy I've ever read, it specifically excludes coverage of loss as a result of "terror attacks, riots, or wars, declared or undeclared."

Could be that there's no insurance payments coming, and the hospital knows it's going to eat 95%+ of the cost anyway, so why not get some publicity by saying that they're just not going to charge for it.

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:49:03 AM EDT

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So the answer to free medical cure is to suck dicks ?

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:49:48 AM EDT

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Can you imagine how many negative news articles would be written about those evil hospitals only caring about money if they had sent those bills out? Sometimes you have to get kicked in the ass to avoid getting kicked in he nuts.

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:52:31 AM EDT

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I'm sure that writing down a $5.5 million loss will help on their taxes.

Posted: 8/26/2016 8:55:01 AM EDT

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Hasn't for either me or LP

We must not be quite privileged as much as others...

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:03:36 AM EDT

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Hospitals send out bills for the thousands of tiny tragedies that happen every day. If they didn't, they'd go out of business.

Sorry... but that's just the honest truth.

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:05:46 AM EDT

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They should charge as for any other treatment.

Victims can use their insurance or sue the government or the club for denying their self-defense capability.

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:09:01 AM EDT

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So everybody else's bill will go up to cover the cost.

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:10:11 AM EDT

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Maybe some of that 1.6 BILLION dollars given to iran by the jug-eared motherfucker should have been retained and used to pay medical bills.

In fact, ALL OF IT should be kept for that purpose.

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:14:06 AM EDT

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Damnit man. Mt dew through the nose!

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:25:01 AM EDT

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Awesome

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:32:56 AM EDT

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Whoever the President was when that terrorist's Taliban supporting father came from Afghanistan should pay the bill.

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:33:00 AM EDT

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ORMC Hospital which took in 90% of the victims is the only level one trauma center in all of Central Florida. Little known secret--almost everyone with homeowners insurance in a 10 county area pays into a special fund to subsidize just the operation of the trauma center. They never loose a dime because most of the trauma victims that come thru the ER there are indigent and never pay anyway.

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:35:55 AM EDT

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Do they not have insurance? Does the night club not have insurance? Someone other than the tax payer and other insured people need to pay.

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:37:50 AM EDT

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Yup.

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:38:43 AM EDT

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It's a nice gesture.

I don't think this is one of those situations where it would be right or wrong to do either option (not require payment or require payment)......

But it is a hell of a PR stunt at least, and I've got no problem with a business deciding to provide a service for free of their own volition (for whatever reason).

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:55:42 AM EDT

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That's because you two aren't sucking the right dicks.

Posted: 8/26/2016 9:59:08 AM EDT

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Two Florida hospitals will not seek payment of medical bills from the dozens of people treated for injuries suffered in the mass shooting at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando in June, officials at the health facilities said.

The move leaves the hospitals with estimated unreimbursed costs topping $5.5 million, they said on Thursday

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You can bet your ass the higher ups wont be losing any money to pay for this.

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Do you think they will take it out of the nurses' paychecks?

Posted: 8/26/2016 10:02:22 AM EDT

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Maybe because SWAT shot at least some of them?

Posted: 8/26/2016 10:04:28 AM EDT

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It's a .gov hospital?

Posted: 8/26/2016 10:04:31 AM EDT

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Two Florida hospitals will not seek payment of medical bills from the dozens of people treated for injuries suffered in the mass shooting at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando in June, officials at the health facilities said.

The move leaves the hospitals with estimated unreimbursed costs topping $5.5 million, they said on Thursday

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No, the victims should not be charged for the treatment. The family of the terrorist and the government that failed its duty to stop him after ample warning signs should be on the hook for the bills and continuing care of those poor people. So should the mosque that the terrorist went to that allowed hate speech and bigotry in its walls.

Posted: 8/26/2016 10:05:37 AM EDT

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It'll just be tucked into the bills of financially responsible people who have insurance.

Hey! Wait a minute! Wasn't Obummercare supposed to insure these deadbeats?"

Posted: 8/26/2016 10:08:05 AM EDT

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I thought everyone had to have insurance under Obamacare? What happened with that?

Posted: 8/26/2016 10:08:13 AM EDT

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Two Florida hospitals will not seek payment of medical bills from the dozens of people treated for injuries suffered in the mass shooting at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando in June, officials at the health facilities said.

The move leaves the hospitals with estimated unreimbursed costs topping $5.5 million, they said on Thursday

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While I think they should pay for their own medical care, It is a great thing that the hospital is providing their care pro bono. This is one of the things that health insurance is supposed to take care of. Life's unexpected emergencies. If I were one of the victims, I wouldn't expect anyone to foot my bills. I would be going after the shooter and their estate in a civil case to recoup my expenses.

Posted: 8/26/2016 10:09:01 AM EDT

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But yet they will "release the hounds" on some working class construction worker and try to take everything he owns over a unpaid bill for a $40.00 aspirin.