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Posted: 8/25/2016 10:57:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2016 10:59:44 PM EDT
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I don't see the problem with them acquiring 5th generation fighters, especially after the U.S. spent the money fixing the kinks and the research and development. I believe the current f35 is now very capable.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:05:11 PM EDT
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Good, we need more suckers buying those things to help pay for the program and offset the cost to the taxpayer.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:09:22 PM EDT
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Didn't the F-35 shot down a dozen F-15 in a match dogfight a few months ago?
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:11:50 PM EDT
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I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:13:45 PM EDT
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I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here. I cut trees down.  I R SMRT.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:16:58 PM EDT
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I'm no F-35 fan, but there's a metric shot ton of derp in that video.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:21:26 PM EDT
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I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here. I used to play the original Harpoon computer game! |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:32:56 PM EDT
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So Europe is going to buy military capability and defend themselves from the neighborhood bullies now?
Sweet. Fire sale it all. There's no reason for the U.S. To be holding Europe SK or Japan's hands 75+ years after. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:42:53 AM EDT
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I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here. I knew many years ago that all those hours playing F117A Stealth Fighter would pay off someday. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:50:07 AM EDT
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If only you guys knew what that jet can really do it would blow your mind.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:51:42 AM EDT
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No Saab from next door?
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:51:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I knew many years ago that all those hours playing F117A Stealth Fighter would pay off someday. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here. I knew many years ago that all those hours playing F117A Stealth Fighter would pay off someday. Oh man...1991 just came back with a vengeance.   |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:05:06 AM EDT
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If only you guys knew what that jet can really do it would blow your mind. All that ability and no where or no one to use it on 
Sometimes I feel that being an American is like having a 14" wang while having ED. All that military with no ass to kick. Shooting Terrorist in the face doesn't count.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:23:47 AM EDT
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RT.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:27:45 AM EDT
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Oh man...1991 just came back with a vengeance.
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I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here. I knew many years ago that all those hours playing F117A Stealth Fighter would pay off someday. Oh man...1991 just came back with a vengeance.
Was it that recent?
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:33:15 AM EDT
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All that ability and no where or no one to use it on
Sometimes I feel that being an American is like having a 14" wang while having ED. All that military with no ass to kick. Shooting Terrorist in the face doesn't count. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If only you guys knew what that jet can really do it would blow your mind. All that ability and no where or no one to use it on
Sometimes I feel that being an American is like having a 14" wang while having ED. All that military with no ass to kick. Shooting Terrorist in the face doesn't count. Accurate statement is accurate.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:43:31 AM EDT
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I'm no F-35 fan, but there's a metric shot ton of derp in that video. RT (Russian Television) and the Norwegian Peace Movement, what did you expect from them? |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:46:12 AM EDT
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The whole F-35 program, from a logistical standpoint is a goat rope.
Glad to be shut of it. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:55:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it that recent? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here. I knew many years ago that all those hours playing F117A Stealth Fighter would pay off someday. Oh man...1991 just came back with a vengeance. Was it that recent? I was 8, playing on Dad's work computer while he was out of town  |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 2:00:03 AM EDT
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I was 8, playing on Dad's work computer while he was out of town
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I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here. I knew many years ago that all those hours playing F117A Stealth Fighter would pay off someday. Oh man...1991 just came back with a vengeance.
Was it that recent?
I was 8, playing on Dad's work computer while he was out of town
I remember that game. Didn't it have a cardboard over lay that went on the keyboard? |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 6:15:49 AM EDT
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All that ability and no where or no one to use it on
Yet. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 6:30:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't the F-35 shot down a dozen F-15 in a match dogfight a few months ago?  |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 6:49:32 AM EDT
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I'm sure RT can be counted on to give unbiased reviews of NATO arms purchases.
 Boris Borasev gave us FOUR reasons why they shouldn't have gotten F35's, sounds super duper legit
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Posted: 8/26/2016 7:17:36 AM EDT
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The whole F-35 program, from a logistical standpoint is a goat rope. Glad to be shut of it. Sour grapes. 
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Posted: 8/26/2016 7:37:14 AM EDT
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I got to party with the EPAF folks when they came to Kyrgyzstan. They were pretty cool dudes.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 7:55:55 AM EDT
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those dudes really hate America and our 35's
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:23:10 AM EDT
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those dudes really hate America and our 35's Yes because they know if India doesn't fund PAK-FA,they are going to be left behind in terms of tactical aircraft. Right now,they have a nominal strength of around 600 Su-27s and MiG-29s;how many they could get into the air is another matter. NATO will have well over 2000 F-35s. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:25:53 AM EDT
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If only you guys knew what that jet can really do it would blow your mind. So do we have to wait to read about it in one of Hillary's emails? |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:31:10 AM EDT
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"Blunder"?
 Okay, maybe we don't "need" the F-35. But it's not a piece of shit. Our aerospace engineers are the best on the planet. Stop hating on American equipment. You guys talking trash are acting like a bunch of pro-Russian fags. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:35:53 AM EDT
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Sell baby sell! You might like the aircraft more if you owned some LMT....
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:20:16 AM EDT
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All that ability and no where or no one to use it on
Yet. I am not holding my breath. The Russians invaded Ukraine and shot down a plane full of Civilians and nothing happened besides the Russians taking over more land. China isn't going to start anything. Maybe we may get an IRAQ 2.0 with Iran or someone like that. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:25:55 AM EDT
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Accurate statement is accurate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If only you guys knew what that jet can really do it would blow your mind. All that ability and no where or no one to use it on
Sometimes I feel that being an American is like having a 14" wang while having ED. All that military with no ass to kick. Shooting Terrorist in the face doesn't count. Accurate statement is accurate. But we project power! |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:31:16 AM EDT
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If only you guys knew what that jet can really do it would blow your mind. If you do know, you are violating your clearance. If you don't know, you are making things up. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:34:23 AM EDT
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RT lol
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:35:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to play the original Harpoon computer game! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here. I used to play the original Harpoon computer game! |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:45:00 AM EDT
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Makes sense for a small rich country like Norway, and their buy lowers the unit costs for the entire program.
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:49:10 AM EDT
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So Europe is going to buy military capability and defend themselves from the neighborhood bullies now? Sweet. Fire sale it all. There's no reason for the U.S. To be holding Europe SK or Japan's hands 75+ years after. Shit, a finger-four purchase of F-35s will take care of Norway's NATO obligations. Don't see a downside here. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:57:09 AM EDT
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I don't see the problem with them acquiring 5th generation fighters, especially after the U.S. spent the money fixing the kinks and the research and development. I believe the current f35 is now very capable. This should help spread our $$$ top secret technology to the rest of the world... |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:57:19 AM EDT
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Yes because they know if India doesn't fund PAK-FA,they are going to be left behind in terms of tactical aircraft. Right now,they have a nominal strength of around 600 Su-27s and MiG-29s;how many they could get into the air is another matter. NATO will have well over 2000 F-35s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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those dudes really hate America and our 35's Yes because they know if India doesn't fund PAK-FA,they are going to be left behind in terms of tactical aircraft. Right now,they have a nominal strength of around 600 Su-27s and MiG-29s;how many they could get into the air is another matter. NATO will have well over 2000 F-35s. Their air bases leave most fighters exposed to the elements in Russian winter. Most of those fighters are Soviet-era, not modern production Su-30M or MiG-35, so they are inferior to early and mid 1980s-era F-16C Block 25 and F-15C, as well as F/A-18C early production. In other words, fighters that we no longer use, or are at the end of their service life in the US (that have had significant upgrades to the avionics) are more capable than what Russia currently has sitting on weed-infested tar macs. And those aren't anywhere near our best. Even sticking with 4th Gen aircraft, the later production block F-16Cs, F/A-18s, and F-15Cs are better. Now imagine how their crap compares with F-22 and F-35. 
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Posted: 8/26/2016 11:58:11 AM EDT
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Good, we need more suckers buying those things to help pay for the program and offset the cost to the taxpayer. Concur. This is the only bright thing that can be said about this event. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:03:42 PM EDT
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The F-35 in a dogfight – what have I learned so far?
I now have several sorties behind me in the F-35 where the mission has been to train within visual range combat one-on-one, or «Basic Fighter Maneuvers» (BFM). In a previous post I wrote about aerial combat in general (English version available), and about the likelihood that the F-35 would ever end up in such a situation. In this post, however, I write more specifically about my experiences with the F-35 when it does end up in a dogfight. Again, I use the F-16 as my reference. As an F-35-user I still have a lot to learn, but I am left with several impressions. For now my conclusion is that this is an airplane that allows me to be more forward and aggressive than I could ever be in an F-16. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:31:48 PM EDT
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If only you guys knew what that jet can really do it would blow your mind. It's really raising Lockmart stock prices more than they publish?
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:34:41 PM EDT
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"Blunder"?
Okay, maybe we don't "need" the F-35. But it's not a piece of shit. Our aerospace engineers are the best on the planet. Stop hating on American equipment. You guys talking trash are acting like a bunch of pro-Russian fags. Nope, we just want no more zipper suited sun gods preventing us to win wars. If only we couldn't guarantee air superiority our ground forces would finally be able to win. 
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:36:04 PM EDT
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All that ability and no where or no one to use it on
Yet. promises promises 
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:37:34 PM EDT
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I'm always surprised by the number of aerospace engineers and air operations tacticians we have here. We actually do have a number of both. They tend to just watch these threads and laugh. 
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:44:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This should help spread our $$$ top secret technology to the rest of the world... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't see the problem with them acquiring 5th generation fighters, especially after the U.S. spent the money fixing the kinks and the research and development. I believe the current f35 is now very capable. This should help spread our $$$ top secret technology to the rest of the world... |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:56:59 PM EDT
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So Europe is going to buy military capability and defend themselves from the neighborhood bullies now? Sweet. Fire sale it all. There's no reason for the U.S. To be holding Europe SK or Japan's hands 75+ years after. This. |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 12:58:59 PM EDT
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Didn't the F-35 shot down a dozen F-15 in a match dogfight a few months ago? NO...it was every F15 we own...it chewed through those and started on all our F16's and had to stop cause the pilot needed to pee... |
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:00:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2016 1:22:37 PM EDT
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I am not holding my breath. The Russians invaded Ukraine and shot down a plane full of Civilians and nothing happened besides the Russians taking over more land. China isn't going to start anything. Maybe we may get an IRAQ 2.0 with Iran or someone like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All that ability and no where or no one to use it on
Yet. I am not holding my breath. The Russians invaded Ukraine and shot down a plane full of Civilians and nothing happened besides the Russians taking over more land. China isn't going to start anything. Maybe we may get an IRAQ 2.0 with Iran or someone like that. Two fundamental components of deterrence: capability, and will. We've got at least one of those, now. |
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