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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:54:00 PM EDT
The nation’s state-run retirement systems had a $934 billion gap in fiscal year 2014 between the pension benefits that governments have promised their workers and the funding available to meet those obligations. That represents a $35 billion decrease from the shortfall reported for fiscal 2013. The reduction in pension debt was driven primarily by strong investment results, with public plans in fiscal 2014 averaging a 17 percent rateof return.1

This brief focuses on the most recent comprehensive data from all 50 states and does not reflect the impact of weaker investment performance in fiscal 2015, which averaged 3 percent.2 Performance has been even weaker in the first three quarters of fiscal 2016, with negative average returns. Preliminary data from fiscal 2015 point to increases in unfunded liabilities for the majority of states. Total pension debt is expected to be over $1 trillion for state plans, an increase of more than 10 percent from fiscal 2014.

When combined with the shortfalls in local pension systems, this estimate reaches more than $1.5 trillion for fiscal 2015 and will likely remain close to historically high levels as a percentage of U.S. gross domestic product (GDP). The lesson here is that state and local policymakers cannot count solely on investment returns to close the pension funding gap over the long term; they also need to follow funding policies that put them on track to pay down pension debt.

These data follow new standards from the Governmental Accounting Standards Board (GASB), the independent organization recognized by governments, the accounting industry, and capital markets as the official source of generally accepted accounting principles for state and local governments. As of June 15, 2014, GASB required governments to report pension debt as a net pension liability (NPL) on their annual balance sheets and to disclose more details on the cost of new pension benefits earned by current workers. In addition, some poorly funded plans must now use more conservative assumptions when calculating pension liabilities for reporting purposes.3
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http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2016/08/the-state-pension-funding-gap-2014

So, when does the shit hit the fan?
Link Posted: 8/25/2016 9:56:28 PM EDT
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The nation’s state-run retirement systems had a $934 billion gap in fiscal year 2014 between the pension benefits that governments have promised their workers and the funding available to meet those obligations. That represents a $35 billion decrease from the shortfall reported for fiscal 2013. The reduction in pension debt was driven primarily by strong investment results, with public plans in fiscal 2014 averaging a 17 percent rateof return.1



This brief focuses on the most recent comprehensive data from all 50 states and does not reflect the impact of weaker investment performance in fiscal 2015, which averaged 3 percent.2 Performance has been even weaker in the first three quarters of fiscal 2016, with negative average returns. Preliminary data from fiscal 2015 point to increases in unfunded liabilities for the majority of states. Total pension debt is expected to be over $1 trillion for state plans, an increase of more than 10 percent from fiscal 2014.



When combined with the shortfalls in local pension systems, this estimate reaches more than $1.5 trillion for fiscal 2015 and will likely remain close to historically high levels as a percentage of U.S. gross domestic product (GDP). The lesson here is that state and local policymakers cannot count solely on investment returns to close the pension funding gap over the long term; they also need to follow funding policies that put them on track to pay down pension debt.



These data follow new standards from the Governmental Accounting Standards Board (GASB), the independent organization recognized by governments, the accounting industry, and capital markets as the official source of generally accepted accounting principles for state and local governments. As of June 15, 2014, GASB required governments to report pension debt as a net pension liability (NPL) on their annual balance sheets and to disclose more details on the cost of new pension benefits earned by current workers. In addition, some poorly funded plans must now use more conservative assumptions when calculating pension liabilities for reporting purposes.3
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http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2016/08/the-state-pension-funding-gap-2014



So, when does the shit hit the fan?
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I read somewhere that Illinois will be among the first, maybe within 7-10 years.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 8:08:56 AM EDT
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lol.  Government doing what government does best and government employees who helped government do what it does best it are mad about it because now it affects them.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 8:17:19 AM EDT
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Didn't we just do this?
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 8:19:52 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/26/2016 8:29:03 AM EDT
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My state was in the green, which is nice as I contribute to said pension plan.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 8:39:02 AM EDT
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In the end it will be a bunch of retirees getting screwed out of their pensions.
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 8:48:17 AM EDT
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In the end it will be a bunch of retirees getting screwed out of their pensions.
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Anyone who counts on a pension these days, [ozzy man] is on the flight to destination fucked.[/ozzy man]
Link Posted: 8/26/2016 9:00:19 AM EDT
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Anyone who counts on a pension these days, [ozzy man] is on the flight to destination fucked.[/ozzy man]
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In the end it will be a bunch of retirees getting screwed out of their pensions.

Anyone who counts on a pension these days, [ozzy man] is on the flight to destination fucked.[/ozzy man]

This.
You'd have to be crazy to rely on just the pension. Something many at work never learned.
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