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Glock probably makes the best general purpose service pistol on the market.

Other pistols do certain things better.

I prefer the M&P for accuracy and ergonomics.

My biggest grip with glock is the grip angle
Overcomable, yes. But.......

 
There it is.

Glocks are the smith and wesson model 10 of the modern era... a basic weapon for general use.  Not bashing them, because I own a few, just saying...

I like glocks.

In before all the glock fan girls. Oops, op already covered that

P.s. love my G19

Uh, no.

Glocks are best.  Fuck the rest.

CZ > Glock.


Gotta poop in Glock threads. It's like a moral imperative now.

Uh; hmm...I'm not a Glock guy by any stretch.  There's about 3-4 down the list of any gun that I'd carry....however..

1)  The trigger is nowhere close to a "staple gun."  Bro...you need to be checked for nerve damage or something in your hands or fingers.
     There's a little bit of takeup, like most striker-fired pistols followed by a ledge where the trigger begins.  Literally every striker-fired pistol is like this.
2)  Most handguns to date don't create trigger guards to accommodate gloved shooting.  What do you suggest, a VP-70 or something?  If it's freezing fucking cold enough to wear guns,
     I'd wager that outside of police and some weird-assed military units in the arctic---ain't nobody around here shooting in the snow or freezing temperatures which would require heavy gloves.
3)  The ergonomics of a 2x4?  LOL Dude...where are you getting this from?  The magazine release is easily manipulated by left or right handed shooters, the rear of the slide has notches cut into it for
    easy manipulation, the gun's magazine well is wide enough to hit without looking 49,999 times out of 50,000 attempts, and the finger grooves are fine for anyone short of a person with midget fingers.
4)  The factory sights are about on par with any other stock, non-radioactive sight on the market.  Rear notched sight with a dot front sight.  Utterly normal in every respect.


The pros?

1)  Nearly indestructible (not counting douchebags who shoot lead bullets through polygonally rifled barrels and who shoot overpressured reloads through them) and impervious to the elements
2)  Works in environments where many other handguns fail.  
3)  Can be totally stripped down to an armorer's level  with a large paperclip or any other small, stout piece of metal
4)  Magazines are very affordable
5)  Everyone and their mother makes accessories, sights, holsters, mag-pouches, and aftermarket parts for the guns.  Users will always be able to upgrade them
6)  They are safe, combat proven, and pretty much are the gun of choice for most people doing overseas contract work, law enforcement, engaging in competition, or for personal defense.

While I'm sure that you're probably one of those guys that have a half-dozen 1911s in your gun safe along with a bunch of varied milsurp crap from the WWII-Vietnam; doesn't make any of the stuff
you said accurate in any way...I'm just wondering; why bother?

Lol at the hate.

Thousands of Third Country Nationals (TCNs) can train and qualify with a Glock 19, the majority of which have never touched a handgun prior to showing up at the training course. Too bad the elite  operators of ARF can't match what a Nepalese or Kenyan guard can do.

Sums it up right there.

If you can't hide a 19 you're just not trying very hard.

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They can also be easily trained on other handguns as well, so that isn't saying much at all when the block of instruction is on point.

All same brand of 1911 in that box.  Is that because it's the only version they purchased?

git gud



 

This.  I carry a 19 IWB daily down here in FL.  No issues what so ever.

 
I don't know if TheDuck has had to rely on Kenyan security before, but I have, and wouldn't use that as a selling point.

Anaconda?

 
Couple of remote areas, for short in and outs. One mission was hauling a bunch of Royal Marine Commandos. Those are good guys.


BTY, the wife loves the M1 Carbine I got from you.

Did you ever load up that small mountain of brass I sent with it?

Friends from far out are still sending me the brass that they find even though I told them to stop

lolwut

If you have never owned a gun before, buy a GLOCK 19 and don't change or replace anything. It's all you'll ever need.

Dude, it's a MARSOC 1911.  Even I would trade in both my G21 (fuck faggot 9's) and G36 (fuck faggot 9's twice) for a MARSOC 1911, it's just a cool ass piece of art.

One gun cannot do it all.

I have Sigs, CZs, and 1911s that I really enjoy. They live in the safe except for when I take them to the range. My Glock 19 and 17 have never been in a safe. I have two sons that will have to wait till I'm dead and gone to divide up the safe guns, but while I'm alive and here they can have and take whichever Glock they want.

It can do everything I need a handgun to do.

Walther PPQ is better than the Glock

 
Gaston was a youth Nazi

Glock perfected the 6 o'clock ejection to the face.

Lol

23, 30s, 40mos.

This, they ever get that shit fixed without aftermarket extractors? Glocks still have sprinkler head ejection? Even a High Point ejects to the right.

Agree 100%  

I could hide one if I wore different clothes, but as-is with what I'm wearing:

1) It looks like I have a growth on my hip when I conceal at 3 'o clock or 4 o' clock.  Very noticeable that I'm carrying something.
2) I can conceal at 6 'o clock really well but then I can't sit down comfortably.
3) The clothes I wear are relatively form fitting and print horribly, or just lift up and reveal the pistol.

So you're right, I could definitely dress differently and conceal it, but it's just not going to happen unless I'm going into a Mogadishu like scenario.  So, I carry a S&W 380, G42, or Beretta Nano instead.  The Glock is just nowhere near concealable for me until I can put jackets and sweatshirts on in the winter.

Those Nepalese or Kenyan or Iranian guards and their Fathers were first weaned on the venerable Browning Hi-Power, a beautiful & lethal single action pistol.
Those BHPs put in great service, until some asshat arms dealer made claim that the enemies of the state would only stay dead if shot by Tupperware pistols.  
So what's your point??

Yes, several times.

when broken down to its basics, besides needing new night sights, what more can another pistol do?

LOL at you LOLing.

I have had nothing but excellent performance in every Glock I've owned and used, whether 9mm, .40 or .45 ACP.

AIWB?

Heck, I have been packing around a full size Glock 22 all summer OWB in concealment. With the right holster, the right belt and the right clothing, I've come to realize I have no need for compact or subcompact guns anymore. I'm not even currently using anything fancy or expensive to accomplish this. I'm carrying in a high riding Safariland pancake holster that allows for about 10-15 degrees of forward cant and sits tight against the body. I run the holster at about 4 o'clock on an old Aker leather gun belt I've had for about 10 years. I carry a spare mag in the left pocket on my cargo shorts and just throw on a cheap, untucked, lightweight plaid button-up shirt over top of it. That combination provides a level of concealment that I am completely satisfied with while allowing me to carry in total comfort and stay reasonably cool.

With something like the Raven Eidolon AIWB holster, the same gun can be carried in a highly concealed manner under just a t-shirt.

There was a time when I was just like you. I couldn't have concealed something as small as Shield worth a squat. It wasn't because the gun wasn't easy to conceal. It was just that my selection in clothing and manner of dress sucked. Carrying is a mindset and until you fully commit to that lifestyle by switching to clothing that meets that need, you will always struggle to find something that works. So you have to ask the question, what matters most to you at this point: maintaining your present look at the cost of having far fewer and less effective carry options...or altering your manner of dress which may make you look a little more like a slouch but offer far better carry options? For me, that decision became an easy one. Others may have different priorities.

I had jams in my G29, G30, and G36.

I stand by my assertion that Glock can't deal with an OAL greater than most flavors of 9x19mm.

It doesn't fit in a pocket for pocket carry when I need deep concealment. It doesn't become a single stack when discretion is the answer during the hot seasons because a double stack sticks out like a sore thumb. It's not a caliber I'd take into the mountains with because 9x19 sucks against some animals that wants to either kill you for food or for fun. The short sight radius is not optimal for competing with at anything further than 15 yards.

One gun cannot do it all. It's literally impossible.

That's the disconnect. Every mouth breather who says they can conceal one easily expects everyone else to carry that way and cannot critically think that there are other ways people prefer to carry other than their way of doing things.

You sound angry.