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Posted: 8/24/2016 11:39:17 PM EDT
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Awesome pictures! That old gal was showing her age for sure though; I'm actually a little shocked at how bad she looks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In I have a bunch of pictures I took of the Shuttle at the Air Museum by Dulles. Let me get them off my phone and I'll put them up here. If you want the full size pics let me know. Up close detailed photos are always welcomed! Post'em up! I've been snagging photos posted in this thread already. They will be invaluable. Love these threads. Here are some photos I took of Atlantis at Kennedy Space Center this summer. Just cell phone pictures but show some decent detail, especially with the doors open if that's the configuration you end up going with. http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0763_zps1savarjs.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0764_zpsqqgan3s7.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0766_zpsgvhv7hrq.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0767_zpsgg9q8unn.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0770_zps4idvfm4v.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0772_zpsst3vwucl.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0777_zpsacndngrr.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0778_zpsxvtb3wki.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0779_zps5mnbdt46.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0780_zpshmunbkfi.jpg http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af303/James7800/Shuttle/IMG_0781_zpsfrx2iun4.jpg Yeah, I just checked Wikipedia and it says she had 125 million miles traveled so I guess it's fair that she has some scars. I think it's kinda cool they chose to display her as-is. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 2:47:29 AM EDT
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Good choice.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 3:45:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2016 11:03:38 AM EDT
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Is it done yet?
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Posted: 8/25/2016 12:19:56 PM EDT
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Is it done yet? 
Funny guy. 
I did speak with the metals teacher about using aluminum channels for the wings. He's going to look into if they are available through his supplier. He's got some 1" square tubing that I may be able to use also. Attaching the other wood components to that would be more of a pain in the ass than just using 2"x2" wood. We may end up with support lines from the ceiling to the wings, as well as the fuselage, which would make that unnecessary, but I need to get with the custodian and see what he thinks about that. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 12:26:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny guy. I did speak with the metals teacher about using aluminum channels for the wings. He's going to look into if they are available through his supplier. He's got some 1" square tubing that I may be able to use also. Attaching the other wood components to that would be more of a pain in the ass than just using 2"x2" wood. We may end up with support lines from the ceiling to the wings, as well as the fuselage, which would make that unnecessary, but I need to get with the custodian and see what he thinks about that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it done yet? Funny guy. I did speak with the metals teacher about using aluminum channels for the wings. He's going to look into if they are available through his supplier. He's got some 1" square tubing that I may be able to use also. Attaching the other wood components to that would be more of a pain in the ass than just using 2"x2" wood. We may end up with support lines from the ceiling to the wings, as well as the fuselage, which would make that unnecessary, but I need to get with the custodian and see what he thinks about that. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 12:35:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2016 12:36:08 PM EDT
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unistrut would weigh more than 2x2 wood
unless the wing structure weight would require it I wouldnt bother with unistrut at worse some tiny aircraft cable ran out to the end of the 2x2" would give all the support needed ohh I demand 100% accuracy in your reproduction "24,000 tiles on an orbiter has a unique location and serial number that is stenciled on it. Each tile belongs in its own unique place; it’s like a 24,000 piece jigsaw puzzle. Tile technicians used print-out maps of the tile array and colored markers during inspections to mark the locations of tiles needing attention. When a tile was damaged in flight or on the ground, a tile specialist entered that tile’s code into a computer, which would then command the CAD/CAM system to cut a new tile to that exact spec. The tile block would then be treated and baked and prepared for installation. Another feature seen on Discovery is little white-outlined circles usually near the center of each tile. These are targets like bulls-eyes around a tiny hole through which waterproofing was injected by syringe. The orbiters sat out on the launch pad for weeks in Florida’s humidity and rain. To keep the porous tiles from accumulating internal moisture, they were periodically waterproofed. Neither the i.d. numbers nor the target circles show up on most photos; seeing them is one of the rewards of a close encounter with an actual orbiter" 24,000 tiles numbered and logged and inspected get to gluing.... 
ETA: still searching for the answer on why Discovery is windowless its bugging me
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Posted: 8/25/2016 12:45:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: unistrut would weigh more than 2x2 wood unless the wing structure weight would require it I wouldnt bother with unistrut at worse some tiny aircraft cable ran out to the end of the 2x2" would give all the support needed ohh I demand 100% accuracy in your reproduction "24,000 tiles on an orbiter has a unique location and serial number that is stenciled on it. Each tile belongs in its own unique place; it’s like a 24,000 piece jigsaw puzzle. Tile technicians used print-out maps of the tile array and colored markers during inspections to mark the locations of tiles needing attention. When a tile was damaged in flight or on the ground, a tile specialist entered that tile’s code into a computer, which would then command the CAD/CAM system to cut a new tile to that exact spec. The tile block would then be treated and baked and prepared for installation. Another feature seen on Discovery is little white-outlined circles usually near the center of each tile. These are targets like bulls-eyes around a tiny hole through which waterproofing was injected by syringe. The orbiters sat out on the launch pad for weeks in Florida’s humidity and rain. To keep the porous tiles from accumulating internal moisture, they were periodically waterproofed. Neither the i.d. numbers nor the target circles show up on most photos; seeing them is one of the rewards of a close encounter with an actual orbiter" 24,000 tiles numbered and logged and inspected get to gluing.... ETA: still searching for the answer on why Discovery is windowless its bugging me  |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 12:55:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2016 1:06:17 PM EDT
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And with this post, we will finally discover where Guns really is on the OCD spectrum...
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unistrut would weigh more than 2x2 wood unless the wing structure weight would require it I wouldnt bother with unistrut at worse some tiny aircraft cable ran out to the end of the 2x2" would give all the support needed ohh I demand 100% accuracy in your reproduction "24,000 tiles on an orbiter has a unique location and serial number that is stenciled on it. Each tile belongs in its own unique place; it’s like a 24,000 piece jigsaw puzzle. Tile technicians used print-out maps of the tile array and colored markers during inspections to mark the locations of tiles needing attention. When a tile was damaged in flight or on the ground, a tile specialist entered that tile’s code into a computer, which would then command the CAD/CAM system to cut a new tile to that exact spec. The tile block would then be treated and baked and prepared for installation. Another feature seen on Discovery is little white-outlined circles usually near the center of each tile. These are targets like bulls-eyes around a tiny hole through which waterproofing was injected by syringe. The orbiters sat out on the launch pad for weeks in Florida’s humidity and rain. To keep the porous tiles from accumulating internal moisture, they were periodically waterproofed. Neither the i.d. numbers nor the target circles show up on most photos; seeing them is one of the rewards of a close encounter with an actual orbiter" 24,000 tiles numbered and logged and inspected get to gluing....
ETA: still searching for the answer on why Discovery is windowless its bugging me
Yeah, 24k isn't going to happen . Airbrushing the little numbers on some might happen. I really want to know what kind of fabric, that is paintable, we can use to get that texture on the top of the nose. Canvas might work, but it doesn't have the ridges. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 1:10:04 PM EDT
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unistrut would weigh more than 2x2 wood unless the wing structure weight would require it I wouldnt bother with unistrut at worse some tiny aircraft cable ran out to the end of the 2x2" would give all the support needed I'm just happy to see the idea of the wire voiced. That thought ran through my head also, couple eyebolts, on eon each end, with wire tensioned inbetween. Should keep the 2x2, only a 4' spanned, from sluffing over time. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 1:20:50 PM EDT
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I'm just happy to see the idea of the wire voiced. That thought ran through my head also, couple eyebolts, on eon each end, with wire tensioned inbetween. Should keep the 2x2, only a 4' spanned, from sluffing over time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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unistrut would weigh more than 2x2 wood unless the wing structure weight would require it I wouldnt bother with unistrut at worse some tiny aircraft cable ran out to the end of the 2x2" would give all the support needed I'm just happy to see the idea of the wire voiced. That thought ran through my head also, couple eyebolts, on eon each end, with wire tensioned inbetween. Should keep the 2x2, only a 4' spanned, from sluffing over time. slight tension if it has enough tension to play like a guitar string over time your wings will rise up in a nice arc while NASA probably entertained various propulsion methods... the shuttle flapping its wings wasn't one of them |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 1:34:59 PM EDT
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Yeah, 24k isn't going to happen . Airbrushing the little numbers on some might happen. I really want to know what kind of fabric, that is paintable, we can use to get that texture on the top of the nose. Canvas might work, but it doesn't have the ridges. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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unistrut would weigh more than 2x2 wood unless the wing structure weight would require it I wouldnt bother with unistrut at worse some tiny aircraft cable ran out to the end of the 2x2" would give all the support needed ohh I demand 100% accuracy in your reproduction "24,000 tiles on an orbiter has a unique location and serial number that is stenciled on it. Each tile belongs in its own unique place; it’s like a 24,000 piece jigsaw puzzle. Tile technicians used print-out maps of the tile array and colored markers during inspections to mark the locations of tiles needing attention. When a tile was damaged in flight or on the ground, a tile specialist entered that tile’s code into a computer, which would then command the CAD/CAM system to cut a new tile to that exact spec. The tile block would then be treated and baked and prepared for installation. Another feature seen on Discovery is little white-outlined circles usually near the center of each tile. These are targets like bulls-eyes around a tiny hole through which waterproofing was injected by syringe. The orbiters sat out on the launch pad for weeks in Florida’s humidity and rain. To keep the porous tiles from accumulating internal moisture, they were periodically waterproofed. Neither the i.d. numbers nor the target circles show up on most photos; seeing them is one of the rewards of a close encounter with an actual orbiter" 24,000 tiles numbered and logged and inspected get to gluing....
ETA: still searching for the answer on why Discovery is windowless its bugging me
Yeah, 24k isn't going to happen . Airbrushing the little numbers on some might happen. I really want to know what kind of fabric, that is paintable, we can use to get that texture on the top of the nose. Canvas might work, but it doesn't have the ridges. Think stamps for repeatability. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 1:43:08 PM EDT
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unistrut would weigh more than 2x2 wood unless the wing structure weight would require it I wouldnt bother with unistrut at worse some tiny aircraft cable ran out to the end of the 2x2" would give all the support needed ohh I demand 100% accuracy in your reproduction "24,000 tiles on an orbiter has a unique location and serial number that is stenciled on it. Each tile belongs in its own unique place; it’s like a 24,000 piece jigsaw puzzle. Tile technicians used print-out maps of the tile array and colored markers during inspections to mark the locations of tiles needing attention. When a tile was damaged in flight or on the ground, a tile specialist entered that tile’s code into a computer, which would then command the CAD/CAM system to cut a new tile to that exact spec. The tile block would then be treated and baked and prepared for installation. Another feature seen on Discovery is little white-outlined circles usually near the center of each tile. These are targets like bulls-eyes around a tiny hole through which waterproofing was injected by syringe. The orbiters sat out on the launch pad for weeks in Florida’s humidity and rain. To keep the porous tiles from accumulating internal moisture, they were periodically waterproofed. Neither the i.d. numbers nor the target circles show up on most photos; seeing them is one of the rewards of a close encounter with an actual orbiter" 24,000 tiles numbered and logged and inspected get to gluing....
ETA: still searching for the answer on why Discovery is windowless its bugging me
Yeah, 24k isn't going to happen . Airbrushing the little numbers on some might happen. I really want to know what kind of fabric, that is paintable, we can use to get that texture on the top of the nose. Canvas might work, but it doesn't have the ridges. Think stamps for repeatability. Noted.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 2:05:32 PM EDT
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There's a great documentary on Netflix called, "Discovery's Last Mission."
Lots of information about the orbiters and how Discovery was delivered to the Smithsonian. I actually learned a few things and I thought I was fairly well versed on the shuttles. Like, I didn't know that large areas of the skin were actually fabric. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 2:07:30 PM EDT
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I love the discussion on the logistics of making it happen in your threads. It reminds me of the old adage that amateurs talk strategy and professionals talk logistics.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 2:18:39 PM EDT
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Guns, here is a sample of what the ceramic thermal blanket looks like
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It's like cotton batten for quilting but this stuff will handle over 2k degrees and cuts easily Ignore the black dirt, that's from my gloves |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 2:21:59 PM EDT
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I really want to know what kind of fabric, that is paintable, we can use to get that texture on the top of the nose. Canvas might work, but it doesn't have the ridges. just throwing idea out here but I know when upholstery guys are doing custom work they will take plastic "cord" and attach it in whatever design to the peice they are covering then lay the fabric over and tuck it in. in theory that would give you those weird ridges you have more fabric experience than I do but running with your canvas idea I have seen some really tightly weaved burlap at a local fabric store that would be a close match |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 2:27:35 PM EDT
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just throwing idea out here but I know when upholstery guys are doing custom work they will take plastic "cord" and attach it in whatever design to the peice they are covering then lay the fabric over and tuck it in. in theory that would give you those weird ridges you have more fabric experience than I do but running with your canvas idea I have seen some really tightly weaved burlap at a local fabric store that would be a close match Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really want to know what kind of fabric, that is paintable, we can use to get that texture on the top of the nose. Canvas might work, but it doesn't have the ridges. just throwing idea out here but I know when upholstery guys are doing custom work they will take plastic "cord" and attach it in whatever design to the peice they are covering then lay the fabric over and tuck it in. in theory that would give you those weird ridges you have more fabric experience than I do but running with your canvas idea I have seen some really tightly weaved burlap at a local fabric store that would be a close match What about fiberglass sheeting, I know a hardware store where I used to live sold it by the yard for boat repairs, then it could be cut and painted. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 2:32:03 PM EDT
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just throwing idea out here but I know when upholstery guys are doing custom work they will take plastic "cord" and attach it in whatever design to the peice they are covering then lay the fabric over and tuck it in. in theory that would give you those weird ridges you have more fabric experience than I do but running with your canvas idea I have seen some really tightly weaved burlap at a local fabric store that would be a close match Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really want to know what kind of fabric, that is paintable, we can use to get that texture on the top of the nose. Canvas might work, but it doesn't have the ridges. just throwing idea out here but I know when upholstery guys are doing custom work they will take plastic "cord" and attach it in whatever design to the peice they are covering then lay the fabric over and tuck it in. in theory that would give you those weird ridges you have more fabric experience than I do but running with your canvas idea I have seen some really tightly weaved burlap at a local fabric store that would be a close match https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corduroy Also, if the "stamping" is of interest, it could easily turn into a small side lesson into the silk screen methods of Warhol or the woodcut techniques of Escher. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 2:44:44 PM EDT
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Are you also going to build a scale model Toyota Tundra to pull it?
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Posted: 8/25/2016 3:04:44 PM EDT
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What about fiberglass sheeting, I know a hardware store where I used to live sold it by the yard for boat repairs, then it could be cut and painted. not a bad idea, with some weathering could match the rough texture BUT... fiberglass likes to unravel when cut and is a bit unruly to work with and the fibers are highly annoying kids will be itching for weeks after |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 3:07:56 PM EDT
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not a bad idea, with some weathering could match the rough texture BUT... fiberglass likes to unravel when cut and is a bit unruly to work with and the fibers are highly annoying kids will be itching for weeks after Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about fiberglass sheeting, I know a hardware store where I used to live sold it by the yard for boat repairs, then it could be cut and painted. not a bad idea, with some weathering could match the rough texture BUT... fiberglass likes to unravel when cut and is a bit unruly to work with and the fibers are highly annoying kids will be itching for weeks after use a thin thin thin epoxy to hold it downand lightly rough it up with some sandpaper and paint |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 3:16:19 PM EDT
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What about pig mats, oil clean up Matsome for the tiles
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Posted: 8/25/2016 6:44:10 PM EDT
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Well, it was a long day of teaching the ruler and guns762 math.
After teaching the basic ways to get the calculations, students measured and found the figures for where we will be starting tomorrw. I ordered some lumber to get us started. Should be ready to go tomorrow afternoon. 
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Posted: 8/25/2016 6:53:26 PM EDT
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What about pig mats, oil clean up Matsome for the tiles http://<a href=http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s361/millerlgt82/IMG_20160825_151347.jpg</a>" /> They are darker in person and have rivet holes IN them Here is the white ones that could work too http://<a href=http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s361/millerlgt82/IMG_20160825_153207.jpg</a>" /> The white ones could have promise. Do you buy those at automotive shop like O'Reilly s? The canvas and jute twine underneath could also be a good compromise. Being able to paint what ever we use is probably going to be the deciding factor. The different whites in those photos are important. Painting most fabrics just isn't going to work well. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 7:17:05 PM EDT
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Be sure to leave yourself a little room to grow in the size/door fit arena if you're going to start cutting lumber before know what you're going to end up using for the tiles and fabric.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 7:19:35 PM EDT
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Minigun seems to be the popular gun to use on a space shuttle, but let me propose the idea of a 25mm gun.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 7:22:43 PM EDT
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The white ones could have promise. Do you buy those at automotive shop like O'Reilly s? The canvas and jute twine underneath could also be a good compromise. Being able to paint what ever we use is probably going to be the deciding factor. The different whites in those photos are important. Painting most fabrics just isn't going to work well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about pig mats, oil clean up Matsome for the tiles http://<a href=http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s361/millerlgt82/IMG_20160825_151347.jpg</a>" /> They are darker in person and have rivet holes IN them Here is the white ones that could work too http://<a href=http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s361/millerlgt82/IMG_20160825_153207.jpg</a>" /> The white ones could have promise. Do you buy those at automotive shop like O'Reilly s? The canvas and jute twine underneath could also be a good compromise. Being able to paint what ever we use is probably going to be the deciding factor. The different whites in those photos are important. Painting most fabrics just isn't going to work well. Amazon sells 100 packs, I can send you a few out ups tomorrow so you can get an idea before spending the cash Just Im me with the info. And when I'm back at work I can give you the Amazon link, they are 40$ for 100 or so |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 7:26:54 PM EDT
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Be sure to leave yourself a little room to grow in the size/door fit arena if you're going to start cutting lumber before know what you're going to end up using for the tiles and fabric. Hahaha........ that never happens...
We discussed this in class today. Whatever we do, we are going to leave ourselves a little extra for the skin. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 7:32:01 PM EDT
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Here is 1/2" x 1" U channel, 12 ft long for $30  this is just a quick search. tell us what you need, and I and others will assist. I don't want you supporting the wings with dopey unsightly cable. If we can figure out how to support this thing with magnets and superconductors, we will. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 7:38:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: just throwing idea out here but I know when upholstery guys are doing custom work they will take plastic "cord" and attach it in whatever design to the peice they are covering then lay the fabric over and tuck it in. in theory that would give you those weird ridges you have more fabric experience than I do but running with your canvas idea I have seen some really tightly weaved burlap at a local fabric store that would be a close match Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I really want to know what kind of fabric, that is paintable, we can use to get that texture on the top of the nose. Canvas might work, but it doesn't have the ridges. just throwing idea out here but I know when upholstery guys are doing custom work they will take plastic "cord" and attach it in whatever design to the peice they are covering then lay the fabric over and tuck it in. in theory that would give you those weird ridges you have more fabric experience than I do but running with your canvas idea I have seen some really tightly weaved burlap at a local fabric store that would be a close match      |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 7:40:52 PM EDT
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This looks similar to the tanks. Especially at your scale.
You may be able to use bondo for this? maybe someone will have a better material? I don't see a better way to capture the detail present in this pic. I would find a good pattern material that you can press over the smooth coating of material, to get the waffle look, then press straight sections in to make the outer seams. Then find something to make the round circle patterns. If you use the right material, you will have a decent working time.  |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 7:46:10 PM EDT
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You might use vinyl window screen for the mesh look.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 8:13:50 PM EDT
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Here is 1/2" x 1" U channel, 12 ft long for $30 https://www.amazon.com/CRL-Satin-Anodized-Aluminum-Channel/dp/B00QL56MXM/ https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/617mBAD1YRL.gif this is just a quick search. tell us what you need, and I and others will assist. I don't want you supporting the wings with dopey unsightly cable. If we can figure out how to support this thing with magnets and superconductors, we will.
I think I've got the cable figured out and it will be under the skin, not visible at all. 
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Posted: 8/25/2016 8:19:42 PM EDT
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World War II tank modellers make zimmerit with plaster or model putty, and make the crosshatch patterns with pattern stamps. http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/Panzergrenadier90/IMGP1064Medium.jpg http://ilovewood001.tripod.com/modeling/zimmermit/zimmermit2.jpg http://www.onthewaymodels.com/articles/graphics/Zimmerit02.JPG https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PAxY-d9xu-Q/hqdefault.jpg http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/member_albums/37759/zim%2010.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really want to know what kind of fabric, that is paintable, we can use to get that texture on the top of the nose. Canvas might work, but it doesn't have the ridges. just throwing idea out here but I know when upholstery guys are doing custom work they will take plastic "cord" and attach it in whatever design to the peice they are covering then lay the fabric over and tuck it in. in theory that would give you those weird ridges you have more fabric experience than I do but running with your canvas idea I have seen some really tightly weaved burlap at a local fabric store that would be a close match http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g210/Panzergrenadier90/IMGP1064Medium.jpg http://ilovewood001.tripod.com/modeling/zimmermit/zimmermit2.jpg http://www.onthewaymodels.com/articles/graphics/Zimmerit02.JPG https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PAxY-d9xu-Q/hqdefault.jpg http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/member_albums/37759/zim%2010.jpg I'm afraid the amount of material needed will make Bondo unuseable. We can't do this out doors and the ventilation would not be good enough for us. Plaster would look good, but it's just far too fragile for this type of project. There will be slight flexing, and that would cause serious problems. I may look and see what other acrylic or latex type products are available. I still like the ideas of using a cloth, simply because it would be more realistic for the kids. I never knew it was there till seeing these pictures.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 8:57:52 PM EDT
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I have some very thin kevlar boat repair fabric, that if glued down and painted, would pass for that thermal blanket.
If you want it, you can have it. PM me and I will send it to you. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:00:22 PM EDT
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Do the kids know what they are in for and actively request your class?
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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:04:25 PM EDT
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I have some very thin kevlar boat repair fabric, that if glued down and painted, would pass for that thermal blanket. If you want it, you can have it. PM me and I will send it to you. Thank you, and to everyone else for all the generous offers. Let me see what is local, and not such an expensive type of product first, before we get crazy. Gluing down the material is a good idea. That might work for a number of fabrics. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:11:10 PM EDT
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Do the kids know what they are in for and actively request your class? They didn't know what the project topic was, but they knew we would be making something. Many take the classes for the opportunity to do taxidermy. My classrooms have 18 seats each. Most of my classes have 21 or 22 students in them as of today. I have a center work/organizer table where the extras sit right now. Upper classman get first choice in electives. I have the fewest freshman I've ever had this year. It's all upper classman, even in my beginning classes. Kind of sad, but I understand why. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:12:32 PM EDT
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Awesome!
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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:15:58 PM EDT
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the reason I joined! best threads on here.
Guns, have you seen this: https://www.amazon.ca/NASA-Space-Shuttle-Manual-Construction/dp/0760340765/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1472173723&sr=8-14&keywords=space+shuttle i know it's probably a little out of price range, but might offer some great insights. |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:21:09 PM EDT
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the reason I joined! best threads on here. Guns, have you seen this: https://www.amazon.ca/NASA-Space-Shuttle-Manual-Construction/dp/0760340765/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1472173723&sr=8-14&keywords=space+shuttle i know it's probably a little out of price range, but might offer some great insights. An owners manual......for the space shuttle....... You can get damn near anything on Amazon.
Thats cool.
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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:24:49 PM EDT
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An owners manual......for the space shuttle....... You can get damn near anything on Amazon.
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the reason I joined! best threads on here. Guns, have you seen this: https://www.amazon.ca/NASA-Space-Shuttle-Manual-Construction/dp/0760340765/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1472173723&sr=8-14&keywords=space+shuttle i know it's probably a little out of price range, but might offer some great insights. An owners manual......for the space shuttle....... You can get damn near anything on Amazon.
Thats cool. whole series of them, even one on u-boats! |
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Posted: 8/25/2016 9:54:39 PM EDT
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Thank you, and to everyone else for all the generous offers. Let me see what is local, and not such an expensive type of product first, before we get crazy. Gluing down the material is a good idea. That might work for a number of fabrics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have some very thin kevlar boat repair fabric, that if glued down and painted, would pass for that thermal blanket. If you want it, you can have it. PM me and I will send it to you. Thank you, and to everyone else for all the generous offers. Let me see what is local, and not such an expensive type of product first, before we get crazy. Gluing down the material is a good idea. That might work for a number of fabrics. I would use some sort of spray 3M adhesive. If you want this, it's yours. It's just sitting in the storage room. Hell, I don't even have a boat to use it on....
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Posted: 8/25/2016 10:17:37 PM EDT
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the reason I joined! best threads on here. Guns, have you seen this: https://www.amazon.ca/NASA-Space-Shuttle-Manual-Construction/dp/0760340765/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1472173723&sr=8-14&keywords=space+shuttle i know it's probably a little out of price range, but might offer some great insights. I thought that was a joke, and of course it would be Haynes... but then I saw all the other spacecraft manuals they offered... I might pick up some of the cheaper ones. If nothing else it's a fantastic conversation starter on the bookshelf
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Posted: 8/26/2016 7:01:50 PM EDT
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Update 8/26/16
DAY 1 And we begin...... OV-107 PHSS Panther Program We are still working on a mission statement, so if you have recommendations, post them up for our discussion and hopeful adoption. That is important as work on t-shirt designs and a mission patch is also underway in the textiles class. We've got some great ideas.
Students worked to first get stencils made for the contours of OV-107. This was a slight pain in the ass as the over head projector didn't want to zoom in enough to get us to our correct 1/12the size.  They struggled through the pixels to get something close. They did a pretty decent job deciphering them.
Unlike the submarine plans, we folded and trimmed each stencil to make sure they had mirror sides. Even with the pixels giving them hell, they had to trim very little for corrections. Each stencil was also measured agsin to make sure it was the correct size for scale. 
Students were very careful about their cutting this year. After dealing with stencils that were not carefully done last year, they understood the importance of accuracy this year.
Preparing to make the very first cut on the main beam. 
And there it is, the first cut.......and he cut it on the wrong side of the line.... The really funny thing is this guy spent countless time last night at home doing all the math to get distances for everything on our little blueprints. He is determined to be the head student on his project.
Carefully laying out where our frame will begin. 
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Posted: 8/26/2016 7:38:38 PM EDT
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It's all upper classman, even in my beginning classes. Kind of sad, but I understand why. Why is that?
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Posted: 8/26/2016 8:14:57 PM EDT
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It's all upper classman, even in my beginning classes. Kind of sad, but I understand why. Why is that? Only so may spots. Supposed to be only 18 per class. Upper classman get first shot at a schedule. If they fill up the classes, the freshman can't get in. |
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