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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:11:31 PM EDT
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The steering wheel radio controls in the f350 we drive everyday for work has issues all the time, no way in fucking hell am I ever trusting a car to drive itself if a manufacterer can't make simple shit like that work 100% reliable every time no matter what.
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Driven 100s of thousands of miles and never killed anyone behind the wheel. People trying to sell these robot cars can not make that claim about robot cars. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? Driven 100s of thousands of miles and never killed anyone behind the wheel. People trying to sell these robot cars can not make that claim about robot cars. LOL People said the same shit about seat belts, ABS, air bags, collision-avoidance systems, etc. Every new piece of safety tech brings out the old "I'm better than any of this fancy-schmancy technology!" argument. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:23:04 PM EDT
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Ah yes, the future!
A bunch of boring little electric cubes driving their fat slobbish passengers to and fro in perfect synchronized harmony. Sounds like hell to me. 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:24:48 PM EDT
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Bad ass. Can't fucking wait for auto-pilot cars. Taking naps on road trips. Or watching movies. Or reading books and magazines. Yup. The sooner the better. Can't wait for all the crying from highway bandits and traffic courts. 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:28:10 PM EDT
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lol are you a trucker or something? You seem really butt hurt about this. would suck to be a truck driver, 3.5 million americans are going on the dole in the next decade 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:35:27 PM EDT
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If they think they are all set after 100 hours, they haven't really tested any contingencies at all.
Only one camera? Break the lens with a truck recap tread doing 80 and see what happens. Have a kid hit it with an egg. Etc. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:38:58 PM EDT
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So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? Yes actually better than a regular CPU. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:40:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:40:17 PM EDT
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If they think they are all set after 100 hours, they haven't really tested any contingencies at all. Only one camera? Break the lens with a truck recap tread doing 80 and see what happens. Have a kid hit it with an egg. Etc. The cameras are typically behind windshield glass. How well do human drivers typically respond to a retread going into them? 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:42:02 PM EDT
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It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If they're right about the all weather conditions, that's pretty impressive. It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:44:31 PM EDT
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" Cope with all weather conditions "
That's funny. I have Rear wheel drive ice racer, I wanna see a machine " Cope With " |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:44:42 PM EDT
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I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If they're right about the all weather conditions, that's pretty impressive. It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm. Probably works better than a Southerner. 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:47:20 PM EDT
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I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm above 7 mph. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If they're right about the all weather conditions, that's pretty impressive. It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm above 7 mph. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:48:48 PM EDT
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The cameras are typically behind windshield glass. How well do human drivers typically respond to a retread going into them?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84M3ghUKlLkQuote HistoryQuoted:
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If they think they are all set after 100 hours, they haven't really tested any contingencies at all. Only one camera? Break the lens with a truck recap tread doing 80 and see what happens. Have a kid hit it with an egg. Etc. The cameras are typically behind windshield glass. How well do human drivers typically respond to a retread going into them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84M3ghUKlLkHumans can duck when they see a retread coming at them. The camera can only attempt to make the 4,000+ lb car move. Neat video though. You can see very clearly that it didn't anticipate the second pedestrian entering the crosswalk. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:53:27 PM EDT
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So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 8:58:15 PM EDT
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Probably works better than a Southerner.
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If they're right about the all weather conditions, that's pretty impressive. It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm. Probably works better than a Southerner.
https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/s030898453-300.jpg 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 9:00:32 PM EDT
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Why not, to a computer, what's the difference between a real life and a video game, it's just processing data. Real life is the ultimate video game. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. Why not, to a computer, what's the difference between a real life and a video game, it's just processing data. Real life is the ultimate video game. 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 9:05:25 PM EDT
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So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. So it can control my vehicles turning, braking, acceleratiing, and deal with dickhead, dumbasses, children chasing balls, and any number of other emergencies? They deal with input of thousands, or tens of thousands of items, then do very complex math on them. 30-100 times per second. Driving would actually be leaving most of their potential unused. They can also "learn" horrendously faster than a human, by doing the outrageous amount of processing needed for machine learning. The tough part is getting the software completely reliable. Of course, if self driving cars killed, say, 3000 people per year, that would be a 90% reduction over human driving. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 9:10:53 PM EDT
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The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. Ain't found me one damn bitcoin though! 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 9:15:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ain't found me one damn bitcoin though! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. The processors in the video cards are very good at this type of work. Ain't found me one damn bitcoin though! |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 9:22:05 PM EDT
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Probably works better than a Southerner.
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If they're right about the all weather conditions, that's pretty impressive. It's a lie. Or an exaggeration from a nerd who has never seen bad conditions. I'm not believing it can function in a snow storm. Probably works better than a Southerner.
https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/s030898453-300.jpg Southern Ice is like Northern Rain 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 9:26:39 PM EDT
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All weather conditions including the ones that cover up the cameras/sensors?
Yeah, full of shitsky. Segway tard: "They'll build cities around this invention...." |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 10:58:24 PM EDT
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lol are you a trucker or something? You seem really butt hurt about this. Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 11:08:01 PM EDT
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Let's see how good it does on an episode of "Ice Road Truckers".
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Posted: 8/22/2016 11:11:20 PM EDT
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I wonder if this technology, when mature and safe, will allow flying cars to finally be more than just a novelty.
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Posted: 8/22/2016 11:16:10 PM EDT
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Self driving cars can't come fast enough for those of us living in Houston. If you don't like the way we drive here, then you're more than welcome to go back to wherever you came from... 
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Posted: 8/22/2016 11:18:31 PM EDT
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The other day I sat at a light...it turned green...and then red, and only one person made it through before it changed. I was the only one who honked, and I did so at the end of the cycle....we were ALL looking at our phones while sitting there. I just happened to get bored and look up in time to catch the last bit o' green. There were probably 10 cars, it was a 2 lane road. Yeah, we need self driving cars for sure  .Further proof of my theory that technology is dumbing down the driving populace. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 11:38:06 PM EDT
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Happy path.
What happens when a cop is redirecting traffic in the middle of a driving lane, a car is broken down, complete white out with six inches of snow covering the road and shoulders, pot hole six inches deep by one square foot, flood washes out a section of road, furniture in the middle of the road, ... Just curious. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 11:42:41 PM EDT
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I believe the autonomous car idea is a pipe dream for various reasons. At best we could get something that essentially operated on 'tracks' on main roads with only other 'self driving' cars for company, with assisted driving similar to what we have now for use on the side roads.
The human brain has so much going on behind the scenes in order to operate a car on public roads that I just don't see it being feasible. The significance of perfecting the AI to make a fully functional autonomous car would alter society in a huge way. The original goal of driverless cars would seem petty when all was said and done. |
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Posted: 8/22/2016 11:45:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The other day I sat at a light...it turned green...and then red, and only one person made it through before it changed. I was the only one who honked, and I did so at the end of the cycle....we were ALL looking at our phones while sitting there. I just happened to get bored and look up in time to catch the last bit o' green. There were probably 10 cars, it was a 2 lane road. Yeah, we need self driving cars for sure .The rest of us can handle traffic signals just fine. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 12:11:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: would suck to be a truck driver, 3.5 million americans are going on the dole in the next decade https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*FAOTYaCoYpUhjiAe3sjofA.png most common occupation by state Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lol are you a trucker or something? You seem really butt hurt about this. would suck to be a truck driver, 3.5 million americans are going on the dole in the next decade https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*FAOTYaCoYpUhjiAe3sjofA.png most common occupation by state lol at the optimism. Gonna be a longer time than that. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 12:24:01 AM EDT
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At least NVIDIA's SkyNet will be preoccupied dicking around all day in DOTA 2.
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Posted: 8/23/2016 1:09:35 AM EDT
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. Umm I'm pretty sure those video cards have processors that are more advanced than any Intel processor. Nevermind the fact that Nvidia produces specialists and the chips for the most powerful supercomputers in the world Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 1:23:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2016 1:59:46 AM EDT
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There are days during which an autonomous vehicle could climb my driveway....And then we have winter.
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Posted: 8/23/2016 2:05:57 AM EDT
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I work in a highly automated industry with machinery that costs 10+ million dollars and they stop working all the time for stupid reasons. Sometimes computers just stop working. The AI is communicating with the brakes. Great. What if the comm stops for no reason. Guess what, it happens all the time in my industry. But instead of a 250k$ product, you have a human life on the line.
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Posted: 8/23/2016 2:10:42 AM EDT
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No, people like you and the other 9 require that crutch. The rest of us can handle traffic signals just fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The other day I sat at a light...it turned green...and then red, and only one person made it through before it changed. I was the only one who honked, and I did so at the end of the cycle....we were ALL looking at our phones while sitting there. I just happened to get bored and look up in time to catch the last bit o' green. There were probably 10 cars, it was a 2 lane road. Yeah, we need self driving cars for sure .The rest of us can handle traffic signals just fine. The problem will only get worse as younger generations start driving. The good drivers will age out. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 2:30:34 AM EDT
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It isn't a question of whether it will run over kids. It will. The question is whether it will do so at a lesser rate than the average human. Time will tell. There is a certain amount of run-over-children that one might consider to be an acceptable trade off when you start considering other negative aspects of self-driving vehicles. Especially if the kids are getting run over because they're idiots. I'll add that anyone expecting to see anything out of Google that is capable of making life-or-death decisions is out of their fucking minds. It can and will be done successfully... but by someone else. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 2:44:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2016 2:45:40 AM EDT
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Will I be able to overclock it to make it go faster?
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Posted: 8/23/2016 3:49:59 AM EDT
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Let me know when it can dodge snowdrifts while overtaking slower traffic on a 2-lane road.
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Posted: 8/23/2016 4:16:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2016 8:09:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Will I be able to overclock it to make it go faster? No, but the next driver update will steer you into a brick walls and customer support will blame it on you. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 8:12:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I work in a highly automated industry with machinery that costs 10+ million dollars and they stop working all the time for stupid reasons. Sometimes computers just stop working. The AI is communicating with the brakes. Great. What if the comm stops for no reason. Guess what, it happens all the time in my industry. But instead of a 250k$ product, you have a human life on the line. Yup, and every single fuckup that involves injury or death will result not in a lawsuit aimed at the driver or occupants, but at the software maker. Big, expensive ones. Lawyers will get their dick hard at the thought of it. That's going to be an entirely new paradigm, and no company is going to withstand that kind of lawsuit barrage. Every thread about this I bring it up, but no one even remotely has a grown-up answer to liability. We can't even get liability right for life & death medical care - but people expect it'll sort itself out for some cars? In 10 years? El oh fucking el, the naivete of some people. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 8:20:53 AM EDT
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Cool but can it react when some drunk Mexican swerves into its lane? If the drunk Mexican had let his car doing the driving, he wouldn't have swerved into the lane to begin with... That being said, yes, collision avoidance will be a key feature of self-driving cars when they go prime time if it isn't there already. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 8:42:55 AM EDT
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So the makers of fucking video cards believe they can do cars. Hmmm. Notwithstanding the legal issues with driverless cars, can you imagine any better choice to work on them than one of the most important and bleeding edge hardware companies in the world? |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 8:48:30 AM EDT
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I used to work with GPU clusters doing some pretty heavy spatial analysis. They can do some impressive things when given the right task.
I'd be interested in seeing the optical system they use. I'd assume they are using some sort of LiDAR (probably phased continuous wave) and multispectral overlay. Either way GPUs excel at this type of data/algorithm processing. Would I trust my child's life to it? That's a different question. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 10:42:24 AM EDT
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I used to work with GPU clusters doing some pretty heavy spatial analysis. They can do some impressive things when given the right task. I'd be interested in seeing the optical system they use. I'd assume they are using some sort of LiDAR (probably phased continuous wave) and multispectral overlay. Either way GPUs excel at this type of data/algorithm processing. Would I trust my child's life to it? That's a different question. Nope. Just one 200x66 capture array, aka 1 low res CCT camera, one extra set on either side to pick up FOV shift. GPUs were just used for the Net training off of time stamped "meatbag" driver and steering logging. 10 hz sampling btw.... Once the gains were tuned, offloaded onto a regular ole computer for execution. Hell, after you've done your training execution can be done on an Arduino. It's not like its "thinking" after that. Section 5.2 tells you everything you need to know about how applicable to "real world" this is. AKA overfit like a motherfucker. That's why you only use unsupervised learning for part of your architecture, not all of it. But GD aint reading no papers.
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Posted: 8/23/2016 11:00:17 AM EDT
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Took a second look. I'm slow some times... Read through the paper abit slower this time. This isn't a 9 layer KNN. Shunting one of those entirely onto a GPU would be impressive. It's a regular 4 layer and their "network" is just regular extraction convolutions prior to that. AKA - standard procedure for all image conditioning forever and always. But it was worded in a way as to imply otherwise. This isn't even fucking news. I was doing this shit a decade ago. Any CPU can do this. Anyone with matlab can type nnet and do damn near the exact same thing. Motherfucking tech blogs. Internet is godamned cancer. |
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Posted: 8/23/2016 11:09:54 AM EDT
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