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Posted: 7/29/2016 11:45:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 11:48:50 PM EDT
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Dude shakes like he missed his morning coffee & jameson.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 11:49:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Why?  
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 11:49:27 PM EDT
[#3]
That is both ridiculous, and kinda impressive.



In before the heel charge haters.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 11:49:58 PM EDT
[#4]
I love the heel racking.  I never would have thought of that.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 11:51:49 PM EDT
[#5]
Meh.  Now let's see him do that in a snowstorm, while being shot at night.

 
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:07:34 AM EDT
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Instructor zero is basically a case of terminal Yeager
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:18:32 AM EDT
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What a fucking retard.  Seriously that's as stupid as Forest Gump arguing with a tree.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:29:43 AM EDT
[#8]
Not too shabby.



Why the hate for a dexterity drill?
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:29:57 AM EDT
[#9]
Not too shabby.





Why the hate for a dexterity drill?



GD: Full of badasses.


Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:33:03 AM EDT
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But what if he was standing on his battle-buddy who was also one handed?  What now Zero?  You're not ready
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:33:34 AM EDT
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Now do it with a 1911.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:36:53 AM EDT
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:38:08 AM EDT
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.
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That is both ridiculous, and kinda impressive.



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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.
You mean where he clears it after shooting?

 
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:41:16 AM EDT
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Cool timer
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:41:22 AM EDT
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You mean where he clears it after shooting?  
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.
You mean where he clears it after shooting?  


He doesn't need to pull the trigger to ensure it's clear. Bad habit.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:48:39 AM EDT
[#16]
This is better

Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:50:19 AM EDT
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He doesn't need to pull the trigger to ensure it's clear. Bad habit.
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He doesn't need to pull the trigger to ensure it's clear. Bad habit.
It's a super common way to do it in action shooting and training. Also, since he didn't visually or physically inspect the chamber it's another layer of confidence that the pistol isn't capable of firing.
Also, when people normally do that, the gun might be called unloaded and clear, but it's still treated as a loaded weapon.  Myself, the people I shoot with, and I would venture to guess guys like that as well, would do a proper unloading sequence when all the shooting was done and it was time to pack up.











Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:53:00 AM EDT
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I would get kicked out of the range so fast if the RO saw me doing that shit.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:54:16 AM EDT
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Not too shabby.

Why the hate for a dexterity drill?

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Well if I ever find myself in MOPP 1 with a disassembled G19 and come under attack while I have a recently broken not-weak-side arm I'll worry about this "drill".

Personally I take it all the way and cast the bullets one handed before assembling the cartridges too!
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:56:58 AM EDT
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He doesn't need to pull the trigger to ensure it's clear. Bad habit.
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That is both ridiculous, and kinda impressive.

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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.
You mean where he clears it after shooting?  


He doesn't need to pull the trigger to ensure it's clear. Bad habit.


Tell Bob Vogel and every other USPSA shooter that.



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Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:59:19 AM EDT
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Oh no, I predict a bunch of "I fucked up my elbow and shoulder trying this one weird trick" threads
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:59:24 AM EDT
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.


Oh God not again
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:01:01 AM EDT
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It's a super common way to do it in action shooting and training. Also, since he didn't visually or physically inspect the chamber it's another layer of confidence that the pistol isn't capable of firing. Also, when people normally do that, the gun might be called unloaded and clear, but it's still treated as a loaded weapon.  Myself, the people I shoot with, and I would venture to guess guys like that as well, would do a proper unloading sequence when all the shooting was done and it was time to pack up.






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He doesn't need to pull the trigger to ensure it's clear. Bad habit.
It's a super common way to do it in action shooting and training. Also, since he didn't visually or physically inspect the chamber it's another layer of confidence that the pistol isn't capable of firing. Also, when people normally do that, the gun might be called unloaded and clear, but it's still treated as a loaded weapon.  Myself, the people I shoot with, and I would venture to guess guys like that as well, would do a proper unloading sequence when all the shooting was done and it was time to pack up.








Don't bother, I already argued with him about this before at length
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:01:07 AM EDT
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Oh God not again
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.


Oh God not again

The ride never ends.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:16:04 AM EDT
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.


Don't go to work for the DOE. After you clear your pistol you pull the trigger while in the clearing barrel.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:17:33 AM EDT
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Don't go to work for the DOE. After you clear your pistol you pull the trigger while in the clearing barrel.
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.


Don't go to work for the DOE. After you clear your pistol you pull the trigger while in the clearing barrel.


That's because they don't trust them to treat all firearms as though they are loaded, or to properly clear their firearms.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:19:09 AM EDT
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Oh no, I predict a bunch of "I fucked up my elbow and shoulder trying this one weird trick" threads
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I tried it with my uspsa G34, it's tough as hell to do and hurts after a few tries. Not sure I could practice it enough to get the hang of it without needing surgery.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:19:32 AM EDT
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That's because they don't trust them to treat all firearms as though they are loaded, or to properly clear their firearms.
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Don't go to work for the DOE. After you clear your pistol you pull the trigger while in the clearing barrel.





That's because they don't trust them to treat all firearms as though they are loaded, or to properly clear their firearms.
That right there is safety science fact!

 
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:21:32 AM EDT
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He doesn't need to pull the trigger to ensure it's clear. Bad habit.
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I don't have a problem with the heel charge. I have a problem with pulling the trigger as a part of the unloading procedure.
You mean where he clears it after shooting?  


He doesn't need to pull the trigger to ensure it's clear. Bad habit.


Every uspsa RO tells you "Unload, show clear...if clear, hammer down, and holster."
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:25:53 AM EDT
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Well if I ever find myself in MOPP 1 with a disassembled G19 and come under attack while I have a recently broken not-weak-side arm I'll worry about this "drill".



Personally I take it all the way and cast the bullets one handed before assembling the cartridges too!
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Not too shabby.



Why the hate for a dexterity drill?



GD: Full of badasses.





Well if I ever find myself in MOPP 1 with a disassembled G19 and come under attack while I have a recently broken not-weak-side arm I'll worry about this "drill".



Personally I take it all the way and cast the bullets one handed before assembling the cartridges too!
*whoosh*



 
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:43:56 AM EDT
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I know. Bad habit.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:49:08 AM EDT
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Id like to see him do that with a Ruger MK2.

I guess youtubers thinks these vids are cool but it has no real world application. If it comes down to you with one good arm wearing a mask due to possible biological attack and you're having to return fire with a glock that for some reason is in pieces, you'd be better off practicing using a pocket knife to slit your own throat cause you're basically fucked and you ain't walking away from that situation. lol
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:51:22 AM EDT
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That's why I quit drinking coffee.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 2:10:39 AM EDT
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Id like to see him do that with a Ruger MK2.

I guess youtubers thinks these vids are cool but it has no real world application. If it comes down to you with one good arm wearing a mask due to possible biological attack and you're having to return fire with a glock that for some reason is in pieces, you'd be better off practicing using a pocket knife to slit your own throat cause you're basically fucked and you ain't walking away from that situation. lol
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A folder?
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 2:40:23 AM EDT
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What exactly was the point of that?
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 2:56:05 AM EDT
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What exactly was the point of that?
Good grief, did ANY of you read the video description?


THIS VIDEO DON'T WANTS TO RECREATE A REAL SCENARIO !!!!!!!!!!!

This is a Drill of one of OUR Training Protocols specific for TRAINING UNDER STRESS !!!!!!

PLEASE STOP TO ASK WHICH KIND OF SCENARIO IS THIS !!!

WE WILL UPLOAD A VIDEO with Explanations of these kind of DRILLS
It's a dexterity drill. I already said that. Nobody is thinking this is a likely enough scenario to actually need to practice it
 
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 3:04:58 AM EDT
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A folder?
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Id like to see him do that with a Ruger MK2.

I guess youtubers thinks these vids are cool but it has no real world application. If it comes down to you with one good arm wearing a mask due to possible biological attack and you're having to return fire with a glock that for some reason is in pieces, you'd be better off practicing using a pocket knife to slit your own throat cause you're basically fucked and you ain't walking away from that situation. lol

A folder?


Well I figured a folder will give him that one handed dexterity practice he wants. lol
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 3:23:24 AM EDT
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I know. Bad habit.
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I know. Bad habit.

Why?

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Is dry fire a bad habit?
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 11:22:14 AM EDT
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Why?

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I know. Bad habit.

Why?

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Is dry fire a bad habit?


Having the last step in your unloading process be the same as the last step in firing is a bad habit. Allows for a higher risk of negligent discharge. The point of it is so that in case you didn't clear the gun properly, you pull the trigger and fire off the round that's in the chamber so that you don't do it later. It's the same reason they have clearing buckets.

It's not as much of a problem when you're at the range, but when you go to clear your gun at home and you follow the same process, if you fucked up your clearing procedure you just sent a round through your wall, radiator, etc.

It's better to just continue treating the firearm as though it's loaded after you've cleared it.


More care is generally taken unloading the firearm when practicing dry-fire, and it serves a better purpose. It's to train sight alignment and trigger pull without recoil and without having to spend money on ammo. Contrast this with pulling the trigger to ensure it's unloaded, and you have 1.) higher focus on unloading, and 2.) benefit that can't be easily achieved otherwise.

Link Posted: 7/30/2016 11:26:55 AM EDT
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Seems to me if I'm forced to assemble my pistol with one hand shit has hit the fan at a level where I surely have bigger problems.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 11:29:34 AM EDT
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Youtube delivers once again.

"Dexterity drill"
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 11:55:26 AM EDT
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How fast can you toe load a shotgun?

 






Same-same.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 11:56:48 AM EDT
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Good grief, did ANY of you read the video description?
It's a dexterity drill. I already said that. Nobody is thinking this is a likely enough scenario to actually need to practice it


 
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What exactly was the point of that?
Good grief, did ANY of you read the video description?
THIS VIDEO DON'T WANTS TO RECREATE A REAL SCENARIO !!!!!!!!!!!
This is a Drill of one of OUR Training Protocols specific for TRAINING UNDER STRESS !!!!!!
PLEASE STOP TO ASK WHICH KIND OF SCENARIO IS THIS !!!
WE WILL UPLOAD A VIDEO with Explanations of these kind of DRILLS
It's a dexterity drill. I already said that. Nobody is thinking this is a likely enough scenario to actually need to practice it


 

So we can't just watch the videos anymore? We have to read the description to decipher what they meant when they shot the video?
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:38:36 PM EDT
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Same-same.
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Same-same.


Why would I own a shotgun? Superman isn't trying to kill me.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:49:20 PM EDT
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How fast can you toe load a shotgun?    
Same-same.





Why would I own a shotgun? Superman isn't trying to kill me.
To get video of shooting it super fast so when people try to get uppity online you can post video of shooting it super fast to pump thier brakes because invariably, the people who think shotguns are the end all be all, never actually do much training.

 



Pretty much the same thing with revolvers, and why it's important to own them as well.
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Having the last step in your unloading process be the same as the last step in firing is a bad habit. Allows for a higher risk of negligent discharge. The point of it is so that in case you didn't clear the gun properly, you pull the trigger and fire off the round that's in the chamber so that you don't do it later. It's the same reason they have clearing buckets.

It's not as much of a problem when you're at the range, but when you go to clear your gun at home and you follow the same process, if you fucked up your clearing procedure you just sent a round through your wall, radiator, etc.

It's better to just continue treating the firearm as though it's loaded after you've cleared it.


More care is generally taken unloading the firearm when practicing dry-fire, and it serves a better purpose. It's to train sight alignment and trigger pull without recoil and without having to spend money on ammo. Contrast this with pulling the trigger to ensure it's unloaded, and you have 1.) higher focus on unloading, and 2.) benefit that can't be easily achieved otherwise.

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Every uspsa RO tells you "Unload, show clear...if clear, hammer down, and holster."


I know. Bad habit.

Why?

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Is dry fire a bad habit?


Having the last step in your unloading process be the same as the last step in firing is a bad habit. Allows for a higher risk of negligent discharge. The point of it is so that in case you didn't clear the gun properly, you pull the trigger and fire off the round that's in the chamber so that you don't do it later. It's the same reason they have clearing buckets.

It's not as much of a problem when you're at the range, but when you go to clear your gun at home and you follow the same process, if you fucked up your clearing procedure you just sent a round through your wall, radiator, etc.

It's better to just continue treating the firearm as though it's loaded after you've cleared it.


More care is generally taken unloading the firearm when practicing dry-fire, and it serves a better purpose. It's to train sight alignment and trigger pull without recoil and without having to spend money on ammo. Contrast this with pulling the trigger to ensure it's unloaded, and you have 1.) higher focus on unloading, and 2.) benefit that can't be easily achieved otherwise.



Don't do that and there won't be a problem.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:53:47 PM EDT
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isn't the standard, to be hanging upside down, when your doing that?
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:54:12 PM EDT
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I shoot ambi both rifle and pistol and love the "one wing taken out" drills.

The more "actual combat" the better and its very possible you'll end up with only one arm to use cause your other one was shot.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:57:11 PM EDT
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Good grief, did ANY of you read the video description?
It's a dexterity drill. I already said that. Nobody is thinking this is a likely enough scenario to actually need to practice it


 
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What exactly was the point of that?
Good grief, did ANY of you read the video description?
THIS VIDEO DON'T WANTS TO RECREATE A REAL SCENARIO !!!!!!!!!!!
This is a Drill of one of OUR Training Protocols specific for TRAINING UNDER STRESS !!!!!!
PLEASE STOP TO ASK WHICH KIND OF SCENARIO IS THIS !!!
WE WILL UPLOAD A VIDEO with Explanations of these kind of DRILLS
It's a dexterity drill. I already said that. Nobody is thinking this is a likely enough scenario to actually need to practice it


 


It's still dumb.
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If you don't then what is the need for pulling the trigger afterwards?
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