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Posted: 7/29/2016 2:07:04 PM EDT
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Even when the writing is on the wall, Washington is always going to naturally want to assume that the status quo is functionally unchanged, and that there is no danger.
I guarantee the normal diplomatic channels are saying "This is just publicity, your base is safe, we love the US" while the internal Turkish communiques are the exact opposite. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 2:08:18 PM EDT
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How have you not been banned yet? Because he is the Real Gurkha Din Will the Real Gurkha Din please stand up He's in a wheelchair, Jim. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 2:10:45 PM EDT
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This thread needs moar Highway of Death!
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Posted: 7/29/2016 2:11:12 PM EDT
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Without getting into the authenticity or accuracy of the report, I'm sure the Air Base will be fine. We held Tan Son Nhut, we can hold Incirlik. "Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over till we decide it is! Was it over when the Inuits bombed Khe Sahn? Hell no!!!" Inuits? Forget it, he's on a roll. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 2:11:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 2:12:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: my friends are stationed in turkey, there is authenticity to this article. military personnel at incirlik are sheltering in place.  |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 2:18:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 2:20:05 PM EDT
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Is it happening?
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Posted: 7/29/2016 4:32:44 PM EDT
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be close to an MLRS or Patriot when they go off. I don't know if you can manually control CIWS or not. Never fucked with one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We no longer have AAA. I doubt there is an avenger on there. vulcans and dusters are long gone.
I hope they attack the base. It will be funny when they request CAS and they are told, "you need to request 96 hours in advance." They are also unbelievably loud. I would have never had guessed that a 20mm could produce those kinds of decibels. be close to an MLRS or Patriot when they go off. I don't know if you can manually control CIWS or not. Never fucked with one. It can be manually controulled. The latest blocks also have cameras for optical fire controul. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 4:33:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 4:36:01 PM EDT
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I've 'protected' a PL1 before (not nukes and stateside) and on any given day there were no more than 16 armed SF on the entire base and the rest were at least a 25 min. away. I'd imagine in a place like Turkey with advanced notice they'd have a few more guys (specially with nukes) but they can't be rolling that heavy. I'm guessing they're in FPCON Charlie? According to the article in the local paper out here, they never came down from Delta. Article also cited a former USAF officer as saying that the SF contingent at Incirlik is 130 strong. Not sure how true that is, but it would seem sensible to have a larger force under the circumstances. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 5:26:19 PM EDT
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Air superiority is for suckers. The only thing we need is transport ships to transport our troops and Super Tacos to fight coin. And you've said we aren't countervalue. You're sure we've never fought russians or chinese who were on orders? Yeah. Air superiority against beijing? You gonna downtown F35s to bring china to its knees? Oh, you mean air superiority against, whom, exactly? ISIS. Yeah. gonna need 2400 F35s for that nut to crunch!!! ADA, worthless, except we need thousands of F35s because russia and china have too much ADA, which is worthless, but we need to spend a trillion because super scary. except for us, cause that shit sucks. how many chinese and russians have we fought? and where. and when? Are we going downtown Beijing/Moscow or not? Or should we buy these things, cause, well, you never know. we might, amirite? |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 5:28:17 PM EDT
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It can be manually controulled. The latest blocks also have cameras for optical fire controul. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We no longer have AAA. I doubt there is an avenger on there. vulcans and dusters are long gone.
I hope they attack the base. It will be funny when they request CAS and they are told, "you need to request 96 hours in advance." They are also unbelievably loud. I would have never had guessed that a 20mm could produce those kinds of decibels. be close to an MLRS or Patriot when they go off. I don't know if you can manually control CIWS or not. Never fucked with one. It can be manually controulled. The latest blocks also have cameras for optical fire controul. thats hot |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 5:42:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 6:08:14 PM EDT
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Yeah. Air superiority against beijing? You gonna downtown F35s to bring china to its knees? Oh, you mean air superiority against, whom, exactly? ISIS. Yeah. gonna need 2400 F35s for that nut to crunch!!! ADA, worthless, except we need thousands of F35s because russia and china have too much ADA, which is worthless, but we need to spend a trillion because super scary. except for us, cause that shit sucks. how many chinese and russians have we fought? and where. and when? Are we going downtown Beijing/Moscow or not? Or should we buy these things, cause, well, you never know. we might, amirite? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Air superiority is for suckers. The only thing we need is transport ships to transport our troops and Super Tacos to fight coin. And you've said we aren't countervalue. You're sure we've never fought russians or chinese who were on orders? Yeah. Air superiority against beijing? You gonna downtown F35s to bring china to its knees? Oh, you mean air superiority against, whom, exactly? ISIS. Yeah. gonna need 2400 F35s for that nut to crunch!!! ADA, worthless, except we need thousands of F35s because russia and china have too much ADA, which is worthless, but we need to spend a trillion because super scary. except for us, cause that shit sucks. how many chinese and russians have we fought? and where. and when? Are we going downtown Beijing/Moscow or not? Or should we buy these things, cause, well, you never know. we might, amirite? We need a clear path to victory. Please note, it all stopped happening when we got ICBMs. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 6:16:37 PM EDT
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It sounds like the Turkish president is holding our base hostage. Obama must be sweating it out, should he hand over the nukes today or after the election. He's still trying to figure out how to spin this where it is Trump's fault.... Or.... will the Great Orator, Her Highness and former Secretary of State be able to save us? (seems convenient) |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 6:26:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 6:31:28 PM EDT
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SPs have an 81mm or 60mm mortar section for base defense, don't they?
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Posted: 7/29/2016 6:45:24 PM EDT
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SPs have an 81mm or 60mm mortar section for base defense, don't they? "Blue Steel, Blue Steel, this is Guardpost 1, Fire FPF, Over!" Sadly, not at Incirlik. I'm not sure if even Korea has them anymore. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 6:45:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SPs have an 81mm or 60mm mortar section for base defense, don't they? "Blue Steel, Blue Steel, this is Guardpost 1, Fire FPF, Over!" Back in the 70's & 80's I grew up in Athens Greece ona USAF (Hellenikon Air Base). Same shit happened. People were going socialist and wanted us out. Protests, car bombs, student protests, etc. When Iran went, we got a lot of US dependents and civilian children teenagers at our American school in Greece - They were airlifted to Athens. A few of the kids I went to school with had dads in CIA and were actively monitoring a lot of shit in the middle east from Greece. You know I wonder if we had a lot more assets in the field back then than we do now with the war on terror. I'm sure they were armed to the teeth until the end came and the base closed. I only mention this because Greece and Turkey are right next to each other. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 6:48:17 PM EDT
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According to the article in the local paper out here, they never came down from Delta. Article also cited a former USAF officer as saying that the SF contingent at Incirlik is 130 strong. Not sure how true that is, but it would seem sensible to have a larger force under the circumstances. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've 'protected' a PL1 before (not nukes and stateside) and on any given day there were no more than 16 armed SF on the entire base and the rest were at least a 25 min. away. I'd imagine in a place like Turkey with advanced notice they'd have a few more guys (specially with nukes) but they can't be rolling that heavy. I'm guessing they're in FPCON Charlie? According to the article in the local paper out here, they never came down from Delta. Article also cited a former USAF officer as saying that the SF contingent at Incirlik is 130 strong. Not sure how true that is, but it would seem sensible to have a larger force under the circumstances. There's more than 130 there. It's still not a ton though... |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:02:24 PM EDT
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Without getting into the authenticity or accuracy of the report, I'm sure the Air Base will be fine. We held Tan Son Nhut, we can hold Incirlik. If our guys there need fire support they have the White House and the State Department on speed dial. Right, because Obama and Aviano AB are just a phone call away.... |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:08:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:14:41 PM EDT
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Dude...its Aor Force Weenies...not Marines or Army...other than a handful of base security forces and the SP that guards the Nuke Storage area, the remainder is jet mechs, flight line dudes, admi, medics, cooks and clerks...NONE of whom could fight their way out of a wet paper bag much less an ass load of aloha smackbar cutcherheadoff jihadis...nope Incirlik needs a reinforced Army battalion or a Marine BLT flown in. You know nothing. I am former Army. During the 31 months in Vietnam I visited several of the AF installations. This was during a time of real war. In the time I was in Vietnam I saw nothing but professionalism and courage out of AF personnel and that includes twice that I can remember when there were significant perimeter attacks. Those mechanics and load masters may not be Airborne Rangers but they can fight if they have to. I have tremendous respect for the AF. If they are not stifled by a chickenshit commander in chief like Obama I am confident they will do whatever they have to do at the air base in Turkey. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:17:17 PM EDT
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You know nothing. I am former Army. During the 31 months in Vietnam I visited several of the AF installations. This was during a time of real war. In the time I was in Vietnam I saw nothing but professionalism and courage out of AF personnel and that includes twice that I can remember when there were significant perimeter attacks. Those mechanics and load masters may not be Airborne Rangers but they can fight if they have to. I have tremendous respect for the AF. If they are not stifled by a chickenshit commander in chief like Obama I am confident they will do whatever they have to do at the air base in Turkey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dude...its Aor Force Weenies...not Marines or Army...other than a handful of base security forces and the SP that guards the Nuke Storage area, the remainder is jet mechs, flight line dudes, admi, medics, cooks and clerks...NONE of whom could fight their way out of a wet paper bag much less an ass load of aloha smackbar cutcherheadoff jihadis...nope Incirlik needs a reinforced Army battalion or a Marine BLT flown in. You know nothing. I am former Army. During the 31 months in Vietnam I visited several of the AF installations. This was during a time of real war. In the time I was in Vietnam I saw nothing but professionalism and courage out of AF personnel and that includes twice that I can remember when there were significant perimeter attacks. Those mechanics and load masters may not be Airborne Rangers but they can fight if they have to. I have tremendous respect for the AF. If they are not stifled by a chickenshit commander in chief like Obama I am confident they will do whatever they have to do at the air base in Turkey. Vietnam was a long time ago my friend. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:18:38 PM EDT
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Granted my time in AFSF was during the SAC timeframe and the last time I was in Turkey was during the cold war, they are armed well enough to secure the WSA and flight line until reinforcements arrive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Without getting into the authenticity or accuracy of the report, I'm sure the Air Base will be fine. We held Tan Son Nhut, we can hold Incirlik. Yeah, except the guys at incirlik are unarmed thanks to an agreement. Story is bullshit though. No, they aren't.
I've got a number of friends there. They're the opposite of unarmed. Granted my time in AFSF was during the SAC timeframe and the last time I was in Turkey was during the cold war, they are armed well enough to secure the WSA and flight line until reinforcements arrive. We don't know which side Obama would choose. I hate to say it, but I think that reinforcements may not be coming unless the military ignores the president and acts on it's own. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:22:27 PM EDT
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Dude...its Aor Force Weenies...not Marines or Army...other than a handful of base security forces and the SP that guards the Nuke Storage area, the remainder is jet mechs, flight line dudes, admi, medics, cooks and clerks...NONE of whom could fight their way out of a wet paper bag much less an ass load of aloha smackbar cutcherheadoff jihadis...nope Incirlik needs a reinforced Army battalion or a Marine BLT flown in. You know nothing. I am former Army. During the 31 months in Vietnam I visited several of the AF installations. This was during a time of real war. In the time I was in Vietnam I saw nothing but professionalism and courage out of AF personnel and that includes twice that I can remember when there were significant perimeter attacks. Those mechanics and load masters may not be Airborne Rangers but they can fight if they have to. I have tremendous respect for the AF. If they are not stifled by a chickenshit commander in chief like Obama I am confident they will do whatever they have to do at the air base in Turkey. Vietnam was a long time ago my friend. I don't see .mil not taking care of .mil A bunch of contractors, CIA, and one ambassador... Not my fucking problem. However other .mil Let Hell hath fury |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:25:02 PM EDT
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There's more than 130 there. It's still not a ton though... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've 'protected' a PL1 before (not nukes and stateside) and on any given day there were no more than 16 armed SF on the entire base and the rest were at least a 25 min. away. I'd imagine in a place like Turkey with advanced notice they'd have a few more guys (specially with nukes) but they can't be rolling that heavy. I'm guessing they're in FPCON Charlie? According to the article in the local paper out here, they never came down from Delta. Article also cited a former USAF officer as saying that the SF contingent at Incirlik is 130 strong. Not sure how true that is, but it would seem sensible to have a larger force under the circumstances. There's more than 130 there. It's still not a ton though... Against 25,000 "protesters" who suddenly arrive with Turkish infantry weapons and using actual tactics the number still seems kinda low. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:34:23 PM EDT
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Lot of context and back story here:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1890544_Turkey__State_of_Emergency_declared.html |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:53:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Against 25,000 "protesters" who suddenly arrive with Turkish infantry weapons and using actual tactics the number still seems kinda low. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've 'protected' a PL1 before (not nukes and stateside) and on any given day there were no more than 16 armed SF on the entire base and the rest were at least a 25 min. away. I'd imagine in a place like Turkey with advanced notice they'd have a few more guys (specially with nukes) but they can't be rolling that heavy. I'm guessing they're in FPCON Charlie? According to the article in the local paper out here, they never came down from Delta. Article also cited a former USAF officer as saying that the SF contingent at Incirlik is 130 strong. Not sure how true that is, but it would seem sensible to have a larger force under the circumstances. There's more than 130 there. It's still not a ton though... Against 25,000 "protesters" who suddenly arrive with Turkish infantry weapons and using actual tactics the number still seems kinda low. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:58:31 PM EDT
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LOL how'd that defense work in Libya?
I love how people think this President and Secretary of State are going to wake up in the middle of the night to protect some foreign base. Oh shit yeah, AC-130's are on their way, gonna mow down hordes of Turks. Yep, hear that? That's all their engines roaring to life. Some of you ARFcommers  
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Posted: 7/29/2016 8:03:25 PM EDT
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I've 'protected' a PL1 before (not nukes and stateside) and on any given day there were no more than 16 armed SF on the entire base and the rest were at least a 25 min. away. I'd imagine in a place like Turkey with advanced notice they'd have a few more guys (specially with nukes) but they can't be rolling that heavy. I'm guessing they're in FPCON Charlie? According to the article in the local paper out here, they never came down from Delta. Article also cited a former USAF officer as saying that the SF contingent at Incirlik is 130 strong. Not sure how true that is, but it would seem sensible to have a larger force under the circumstances. There's more than 130 there. It's still not a ton though... Against 25,000 "protesters" who suddenly arrive with Turkish infantry weapons and using actual tactics the number still seems kinda low. I wa thinking more of the attack on Fort Michilimackinac, but with protesters instead of LaCrosse players. http://mynorth.com/2010/05/deadly-lacrosse-game-in-mackinac-straits-at-fort-michilimackinac-in-1763/ |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 8:08:51 PM EDT
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Anyone who thinks Obama would order US troops to actively fight Turkish civilians/military to defend that base is crazy.
Obama supported Turkey because of their common love of the Muslim Brotherhood. Latest... 
On Friday, Prime Minister Binali Yildirim also announced the closure of the air base and the army barracks, all located near the capital Ankara, and which were used by the soldiers involved in the July 15-16 abortive putsch. http://www.france24.com/en/20160729-turkey-erdogan-army-intelligence-agency-mit-president-control-failed-coup?ref=tw_i |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 8:13:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 8:35:26 PM EDT
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Anyone who thinks Obama would order US troops to actively fight Turkish civilians/military to defend that base is crazy. Obama supported Turkey because of their common love of the Muslim Brotherhood. Latest... http://i.imgur.com/pDkEWqw.png http://www.france24.com/en/20160729-turkey-erdogan-army-intelligence-agency-mit-president-control-failed-coup?ref=tw_i Quote HistoryQuoted:
Anyone who thinks Obama would order US troops to actively fight Turkish civilians/military to defend that base is crazy. Obama supported Turkey because of their common love of the Muslim Brotherhood. Latest... http://i.imgur.com/pDkEWqw.png On Friday, Prime Minister Binali Yildirim also announced the closure of the air base and the army barracks, all located near the capital Ankara, and which were used by the soldiers involved in the July 15-16 abortive putsch. http://www.france24.com/en/20160729-turkey-erdogan-army-intelligence-agency-mit-president-control-failed-coup?ref=tw_i Are you being intentionally disingenuous or are you trying to suggest the linked air base closure refers to Incirlik? |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 8:45:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 8:45:30 PM EDT
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SPs have an 81mm or 60mm mortar section for base defense, don't they? "Blue Steel, Blue Steel, this is Guardpost 1, Fire FPF, Over!" SF no longer has mortar or stinger missile teams. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 8:47:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 8:49:45 PM EDT
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Dude...its Aor Force Weenies...not Marines or Army...other than a handful of base security forces and the SP that guards the Nuke Storage area, the remainder is jet mechs, flight line dudes, admi, medics, cooks and clerks...NONE of whom could fight their way out of a wet paper bag much less an ass load of aloha smackbar cutcherheadoff jihadis...nope Incirlik needs a reinforced Army battalion or a Marine BLT flown in. You know nothing. I am former Army. During the 31 months in Vietnam I visited several of the AF installations. This was during a time of real war. In the time I was in Vietnam I saw nothing but professionalism and courage out of AF personnel and that includes twice that I can remember when there were significant perimeter attacks. Those mechanics and load masters may not be Airborne Rangers but they can fight if they have to. I have tremendous respect for the AF. If they are not stifled by a chickenshit commander in chief like Obama I am confident they will do whatever they have to do at the air base in Turkey. Vietnam was a long time ago my friend. I suspect the men in the AF in Vietnam were just as competent and courageous as the men in the Army Air Corps during WWII and the ones now as just as good as any that ever served. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous. They will do what is necessary if their leadership will let them. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 9:11:26 PM EDT
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I mentioned it in another thread but feel the need to mention it again: many Turks are still angry at the US for stopping Turk SF from killing the governor of Kirkuk so that they could justify their army rolling in to "stabilize". The ultra-nationalists still see it as an insult and embarrassment to Turkey,remember the attack on the 3 sailors from USS Ross 2 years ago? According to them the US presence at Incirlik is an occupation and now with the media reporting that the coup wasn't just hatched there but US sponsored,they are even more whipped up.
Erdogan has managed to create a coalition of lunatics from these ultra-nationalists to pure Islamists,one of their common bonds is hating the US. A Pew poll last year estimated under a third of Turks had a favorable view of the US,that's going to be lower today. The secular and educated are either leaving or cowed into silence,I don't see much of a hope for Turkey but it seems like the US wants to keep its head in the sand and pretend things are OK. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 9:22:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2016 1:10:30 AM EDT
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Obama: "And this is why we must get rid of all nuclear arms. It's just too easy for them to fall into the wrong hands like this." Of course, our guys will destroy/disable any nuclear arms before they fall into enemy hands. Just like they destroyed all the crypto and electronics on that plane that was forced down in China. Oh wait.... |
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Posted: 7/30/2016 1:16:53 AM EDT
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old missile field grunt checking in, where do we catch this bus at?
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Posted: 7/30/2016 1:17:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2016 1:22:49 AM EDT
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They need to fly the nukes out now. Why even take the chance?
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Posted: 7/30/2016 1:32:07 AM EDT
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Without getting into the authenticity or accuracy of the report, I'm sure the Air Base will be fine. We held Tan Son Nhut, we can hold Incirlik. And how does that dovetail with the nuke security? Uhhhh, no. |
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Posted: 7/30/2016 2:00:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2016 2:02:54 AM EDT
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They make some interesting assertions there:
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-h-bombs-in-turkey |
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Posted: 7/30/2016 2:14:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2016 10:50:25 AM EDT
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How turkey is disposing of the coup members.
A little democide before breakfast is normal for the Turks. http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN10922B?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social |
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