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Posted: 7/29/2016 4:15:07 AM EDT
Husband beheaded, wife stabbed to death over a debt of 22 cents worth of biscuits.

Lop off their heads or whatever
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 4:18:57 AM EDT
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Well that's not very Christian of them...
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 4:20:41 AM EDT
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In before someone calls you out for using the decimal and the word cents in your title.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 4:26:02 AM EDT
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I should be hacked up with an axe, I admit it.

I never have stiffed a guy for a couple of dimes though.

Has to be a hard life when 15 rupees matters that much.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 4:33:44 AM EDT
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Sounds like a pretty harsh sentence, I am sure the culprits will face justice
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 4:41:34 AM EDT
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I always use India as an argument of why Islam isn't necessarily the problem, it's the general shitty culture from a whole shitty region(s).
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 4:41:52 AM EDT
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If that headline were "Indiana couple hacked to death for a .22 cent debt for biscuits." I might care.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 5:35:31 AM EDT
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I suspect that the OBAMA (never let a good tragedy go to waste) administration will be granting more Indian immigration as a result. Hummm....as if the H1B visa program wasn't enough already?

Aloha, Mark



Link Posted: 7/29/2016 12:46:30 PM EDT
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Because the people who come here from India on visas are the same kind of people mentioned in the article.    
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 12:49:14 PM EDT
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More Hindu caste issues

 
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 12:58:47 PM EDT
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Wasn't it not too long ago that it wasn't even illegal to kill an untouchable?
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 12:59:54 PM EDT
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India has been under Islamic rule, in the past.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 1:05:57 PM EDT
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India, further proof that all the technology in the world cant drag a culture out of the stone age.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 1:38:23 PM EDT
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as a former british colony, I just want to point out that in india, biscuits are what we would call cookies. so someone lost their life over some cookies. we had a member of our offshore team come to the states for a month, he told me when the british left, everything good about india left with them. there are 29 states in india, & the territories were formed based on the language spoken there. so that's 29 separate languages & no common tongue uniting the country. he also told me their court system is absolutely broken & without bribes, you will probably die before your case goes to trial.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 1:43:05 PM EDT
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Must have been some good biscuits.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 1:44:32 PM EDT
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At first I thought the title read .22 lr, then it was more understandable.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 1:44:51 PM EDT
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Were any cows hurt?  We must know this!
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 1:45:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/29/2016 1:56:04 PM EDT
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as a former british colony, I just want to point out that in india, biscuits are what we would call cookies. so someone lost their life over some cookies. we had a member of our offshore team come to the states for a month, he told me when the british left, everything good about india left with them. there are 29 states in india, & the territories were formed based on the language spoken there. so that's 29 separate languages & no common tongue uniting the country. he also told me their court system is absolutely broken & without bribes, you will probably die before your case goes to trial.
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I had the opportunity to go to Jodhpur for work and found 50 different reasons not to go. My manager finally dropped it and I did the work remotely. You couldn't pay me enough to travel to India, Pakistan or Bangladesh.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 1:57:51 PM EDT
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22 cents isn't much to you and me.  

Seems to be a lot to them.



Link Posted: 7/29/2016 1:59:02 PM EDT
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it's not the money, it's the principle
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 2:02:11 PM EDT
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How ridiculous! You would never see an entire family, except for the kids, murdered over something stupid in a civilized country!!!




Link Posted: 7/29/2016 2:07:30 PM EDT
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Gladly pay you Tuesday for a biscuit today.
Thwack!
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 2:12:49 PM EDT
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The perps and victims in this case are Hindu, not Muslim. Muslims and Sikhs in India do not have a caste system.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 2:33:31 PM EDT
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Pretty big difference there. Couple packets of biscuits worth pennies vs. likely ongoing drug dealing dispute.

They also never figured that case out, so you don't really know who did it or why, right? How do you know it wasn't an Indian man?
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 3:24:23 PM EDT
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Aloha, Mark





Because the people who come here from India on visas are the same kind of people mentioned in the article.    



I believe they are mostly upper-caste like the killer, not lower-caste like the victims.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 3:30:15 PM EDT
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Except Muslims do.

Sikhs actually do too, but all the castes are considered equal.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 3:32:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/29/2016 3:41:39 PM EDT
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I should be hacked up with an axe, I admit it.

I never have stiffed a guy for a couple of dimes though.

Has to be a hard life when 15 rupees matters that much.
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I should be hacked up with an axe, I admit it.

I never have stiffed a guy for a couple of dimes though.

Has to be a hard life when 15 rupees matters that much.



This was not about the money, per se, but about the Dalit (untouchables) not immediately paying the higher-caste shop owner or sufficiently abasing themselves when confronted.
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 3:44:19 PM EDT
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How do you explain Saudi Arabia?
Link Posted: 7/29/2016 3:57:49 PM EDT
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My parents are from India and I was born here. I've been there 4 times. I don't remember the first two trips, but when I went the last two times I hated it.  We didn't do anything touristy though, just stayed in the local village for a family wedding.  

Being there for 3-4 weeks each time really gave me a greater appreciation for our awesome country.  I can't thank my parents enough for making the move over here.  It really bums me out to see how divided our country is until something horrible happens.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:28:04 AM EDT
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I believe they are mostly upper-caste like the killer, not lower-caste like the victims.
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I suspect that the OBAMA (never let a good tragedy go to waste) administration will be granting more Indian immigration as a result. Hummm....as if the H1B visa program wasn't enough already?

Aloha, Mark





Because the people who come here from India on visas are the same kind of people mentioned in the article.    



I believe they are mostly upper-caste like the killer, not lower-caste like the victims.



I can almost guarantee you that the people that come to the US are of a higher caste than the store owner.  Being of a higher caste than a dalit isn't exactly an accomplishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:31:07 AM EDT
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They died over .0022 dollars?



Wow.


Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:34:37 AM EDT
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I can almost guarantee you that the people that come to the US are of a higher caste than the store owner.  Being of a higher caste than a dalit isn't exactly an accomplishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India
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I suspect that the OBAMA (never let a good tragedy go to waste) administration will be granting more Indian immigration as a result. Hummm....as if the H1B visa program wasn't enough already?

Aloha, Mark





Because the people who come here from India on visas are the same kind of people mentioned in the article.    



I believe they are mostly upper-caste like the killer, not lower-caste like the victims.



I can almost guarantee you that the people that come to the US are of a higher caste than the store owner.  Being of a higher caste than a dalit isn't exactly an accomplishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India


My mother was a dalit that made it over here from India.  She's pretty damn wealthy now.  
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:36:40 AM EDT
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I guess the price has been set on a Dalits life; 11 cents.

Seems harsh.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 12:37:07 AM EDT
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I should be hacked up with an axe, I admit it.

I never have stiffed a guy for a couple of dimes though.

Has to be a hard life when 15 rupees matters that much.
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I should be hacked up with an axe, I admit it.

I never have stiffed a guy for a couple of dimes though.

Has to be a hard life when 15 rupees matters that much.

The grocer was arrested. He committed a crime against society.

Even though the victims were Dalits, they are getting the benefits of the legal system (posthumously, in this case) just as someone in the higher castes would.

Your commentary on "culture" in India with *this* as the evidence could just as easily be about Los Angeles with any number of murders committed over something as trivial as a "disrespect."

Calling the crime and the criminal a savage is appropriate. Projecting that savagery on the totality of the populace or suggesting it's a "normal" facet of Indian culture is as dishonest as it is incorrect.

Imdian culture has a shit load of issues compared to most Western ideals. The regular slaughter of debtors isn't really among them.
Link Posted: 7/30/2016 1:22:41 AM EDT
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The grocer was arrested. He committed a crime against society.

Even though the victims were Dalits, they are getting the benefits of the legal system (posthumously, in this case) just as someone in the higher castes would.

Your commentary on "culture" in India with *this* as the evidence could just as easily be about Los Angeles with any number of murders committed over something as trivial as a "disrespect."

Calling the crime and the criminal a savage is appropriate. Projecting that savagery on the totality of the populace or suggesting it's a "normal" facet of Indian culture is as dishonest as it is incorrect.

Imdian culture has a shit load of issues compared to most Western ideals. The regular slaughter of debtors isn't really among them.
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In before someone calls you out for using the decimal and the word cents in your title.


I should be hacked up with an axe, I admit it.

I never have stiffed a guy for a couple of dimes though.

Has to be a hard life when 15 rupees matters that much.

The grocer was arrested. He committed a crime against society.

Even though the victims were Dalits, they are getting the benefits of the legal system (posthumously, in this case) just as someone in the higher castes would.

Your commentary on "culture" in India with *this* as the evidence could just as easily be about Los Angeles with any number of murders committed over something as trivial as a "disrespect."

Calling the crime and the criminal a savage is appropriate. Projecting that savagery on the totality of the populace or suggesting it's a "normal" facet of Indian culture is as dishonest as it is incorrect.

Imdian culture has a shit load of issues compared to most Western ideals. The regular slaughter of debtors isn't really among them.


It is also vast, about 4 times as large as the US population wise. There are many different sub cultures and belief systems in the many regions.
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