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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:43:03 PM EDT
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How long until this applies to making ammo? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's coming. Pick your side. This is how at least one revolution started. How long until this applies to making ammo? Pretty sure fat mcnasty had to get itar to sell bullets |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:45:11 PM EDT
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JFC and motherfuckers here can't even be bothered to read about the dick that just fucked them.
No wonder were fucked. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:46:23 PM EDT
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I'm not reading all that. ignorance of the law is not a defense. Take off a flash hider, pin a brake on a 14.5" barrel. $2,250 Not a commercial business? Try growing wheat for yourself and live stock on your own farm. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:46:58 PM EDT
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Jeez people, take a chill.
First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:48:54 PM EDT
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It's coming. Pick your side. This is how at least one revolution started. How long until this applies to making ammo? Like 4 or 5 years ago. You literally cannot even so much as cast lead bullets and resell them without running afoul of ITAR as it is currently interpreted. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:49:54 PM EDT
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ignorance of the law is not a defense. Take off a flash hider, pin a brake on a 14.5" barrel. $2,250 Not a commercial business? Try growing wheat for yourself and live stock on your own farm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not reading all that. ignorance of the law is not a defense. Take off a flash hider, pin a brake on a 14.5" barrel. $2,250 Not a commercial business? Try growing wheat for yourself and live stock on your own farm. 
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jeez people, take a chill. First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:52:56 PM EDT
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What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jeez people, take a chill. First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? According to this, he is. He just doesn't get caught. It's highly likely that they aren't going to care so much, at least at first, about these cases. They are harder to prosecute, and they don't make much impact on gun sales. This is aimed at killing revenue streams for FFL shops in an effort to kill them off. Ol' Joe isn't their target. Well, not yet. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:53:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The gentleman currently occupying the White House really is a dick. He stopped being a gentleman long ago and has since been a CUNT. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:55:23 PM EDT
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Soon you'll need to register with the feds if you plan to build up an 80% lower. As luck would have it, I ordered one earlier this evening, my first. I was planning on just squirreling it away and maybe finishing it when I'm looking for a project. Now I may go ahead and order the jig and accessories because.................. you slimey Kenyan coprolite................ 
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:56:00 PM EDT
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What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jeez people, take a chill. First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? He would be required to registered with the State Department as a manufacturer of items on the munitions list and pay ITAR. This EO, if it stands, will put alot of small gunsmiths out of business. But hey, fuck them, right? At least they live in a free country. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 11:59:00 PM EDT
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JFC and motherfuckers here can't even be bothered to read about the dick that just fucked them. No wonder were fucked. I didn't read it all either. This was already posted both in GD and a tech forum 3 days ago. It was already duped in GD yesterday. Why should I or somebody else read a wall of text when we already know whats going on. I get emails from NRA-ILA and my state rifle association, but I hardly ever read them because every time I do it's about something I read about a day or two earlier on some forum or news site. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:00:40 AM EDT
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I have an 07/02 FFL... I pretty much don't want it any more.
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:01:10 AM EDT
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FBHO FHRC |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:05:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He would be required to registered with the State Department as a manufacturer of items on the munitions list and pay ITAR. This EO, if it stands, will put alot of small gunsmiths out of business. But hey, fuck them, right? At least they live in a free country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Jeez people, take a chill. First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? He would be required to registered with the State Department as a manufacturer of items on the munitions list and pay ITAR. This EO, if it stands, will put alot of small gunsmiths out of business. But hey, fuck them, right? At least they live in a free country. It brings a tear to my eye. These fuckers are dismantling our way of life by proclamation and we're supposed to rejoice at the wondrous new world that we are being dragged into. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:05:29 AM EDT
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I didn't read it all either. This was already posted both in GD and a tech forum 3 days ago. It was already duped in GD yesterday. Why should I or somebody else read a wall of text when we already know whats going on. I get emails from NRA-ILA and my state rifle association, but I hardly ever read them because every time I do it's about something I read about a day or two earlier on some forum or news site. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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JFC and motherfuckers here can't even be bothered to read about the dick that just fucked them. No wonder were fucked. I didn't read it all either. This was already posted both in GD and a tech forum 3 days ago. It was already duped in GD yesterday. Why should I or somebody else read a wall of text when we already know whats going on. I get emails from NRA-ILA and my state rifle association, but I hardly ever read them because every time I do it's about something I read about a day or two earlier on some forum or news site. Some of us may have missed it and do not live on the internet so we may not be up on current events. Thank you for the post OP. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:07:04 AM EDT
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This shit will either lead to 1776 all over again or pacified American's giving up their right.
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:07:22 AM EDT
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If this doesn't get you to get out there and vote for trump, I don't know why you're even here. He may or may not fix this, but with Hillary it sure as hell is only going to get worse.
I'd add that its just more proof the DDTC and DoS needs to be reigned in with respect to ITAR and the USML. Everyone remember Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed? |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:08:19 AM EDT
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You may have hit the nail on the head. "procedures that involve cutting, drilling, or machining of an existing firearm in order to improve its accuracy or operation" Do you think some .gov lawyer already has a plan? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Soon you'll need to register with the feds if you plan to build up an 80% lower. You may have hit the nail on the head. "procedures that involve cutting, drilling, or machining of an existing firearm in order to improve its accuracy or operation" Do you think some .gov lawyer already has a plan? Not an existing firearm 
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:08:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If this doesn't get you to get out there and vote for trump, I don't know why you're even here. He may or may not fix this, but with Hillary its only going to get worse. I'd add that its just more proof the DDTC and DoS needs to be reigned in with respect to ITAR and the USML. Everyone remember Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed? No. What's the abridged version? |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:09:03 AM EDT
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Pretty sure fat mcnasty had to get itar to sell bullets Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's coming. Pick your side. This is how at least one revolution started. How long until this applies to making ammo? Pretty sure fat mcnasty had to get itar to sell bullets Yup and its what killed it..
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:12:03 AM EDT
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The gentleman currently dick occupying the White House really is a dick. See correction in bold print. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:12:35 AM EDT
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What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jeez people, take a chill. First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? He would already need a type 01 FFL for gunsmithing to do that legally. This directive also affects non-licensee machine shops that don't work on firearm receivers but may happen to do machining work on other firearm parts. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:12:48 AM EDT
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You know what I just thought of? I am waiting on three stamps to 'manufacture' SBRs. 
ETA - However, my trust is not a commercial entity. This seems to apply only to entities engaged in commerce. Doesn't matter. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:13:00 AM EDT
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No. What's the abridged version? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If this doesn't get you to get out there and vote for trump, I don't know why you're even here. He may or may not fix this, but with Hillary its only going to get worse. I'd add that its just more proof the DDTC and DoS needs to be reigned in with respect to ITAR and the USML. Everyone remember Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed? No. What's the abridged version? 3d printed lower.. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:14:38 AM EDT
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If this doesn't get you to get out there and vote for trump, I don't know why you're even here. He may or may not fix this, but with Hillary its only going to get worse. I'd add that its just more proof the DDTC and DoS needs to be reigned in with respect to ITAR and the USML. Everyone remember Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed? No. What's the abridged version? Wilson made plans available for download for a 3D printable pistol. DoS demanded he take them down and remove them from the internet because by making them available he was violating ITAR since plans for things such as firearms are on the USML, and by posting them online he was alleged to have been "exporting" them since someone from another country could access it. He took it down, and IIRC has filed suit against DoS for violating his 1A rights. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:15:18 AM EDT
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He would already need a type 01 FFL for gunsmithing to do that legally. This directive also affects non-licensee machine shops that don't work on firearm receivers but may happen to do machining work on other firearm parts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jeez people, take a chill. First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? He would already need a type 01 FFL for gunsmithing to do that legally. This directive also affects non-licensee machine shops that don't work on firearm receivers but may happen to do machining work on other firearm parts. this very much this.. there are tons of job shops making bases/ring/parts out there. This will kill business, they use the gun stuff to fill in between regular jobs. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:16:12 AM EDT
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If things were actually fair, then this would get slapped down so quick as oppressing the poor. I mean if requiring photo I.D. to prove you are who you are to vote is extraneous and too hard for minorities, then certainly requiring an absurd $2200 charge for a license to do the most menial gun work is like reintroducing freakin slavery. Thanks Obama.
 oh and that's sure to curb shootings in his city Chicago, and to preve t his Muslim sons from killing more Americans because of their climate-rage.
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:16:19 AM EDT
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This shit will either lead to 1776 all over again or pacified American's giving up their right. That second one. They've already used ITAR to legislate from the White House. They'll do it again. They'll keep on doing it until the entire industry is a bureaucratic mess that no one but the likes of their favored contractors dares to engage in it. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:18:39 AM EDT
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There's already a 3-4 page thread on this, and many of you asking questions, they're answered in the regulations. Especially near the top, where it says people engaged in the business of...that means if you aren't selling things or services, you can do whatever you want without registering and paying.
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:19:55 AM EDT
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I'm sure ITAR compliance will continue to be a top priority for all 07 FFL holders... Nope the way that rads is if you drill and tap your own rifle and are not an ffl and do not manufacture you still have to pay the tax. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:20:38 AM EDT
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meh, just ignore it... we're at the point in this country where you just begin to ignore laws. The people in charge don't follow them, so clear your conscious and don't worry so much. Yep, and who is going to enforce it? the UN, lol |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:21:33 AM EDT
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Jeez people, take a chill. First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. No read it again.... |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:21:45 AM EDT
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Yeah right, when has checks and balances worked in the Obama regime? Checks and balances only work with honest people with good intentions. You run the table with creeps and there is no such thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The good news is fucking EOs have no checks and balances and never expire.  Yeah right, when has checks and balances worked in the Obama regime? Checks and balances only work with honest people with good intentions. You run the table with creeps and there is no such thing. Actually it has, the legislative branch. We stopped various federal gun laws. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:22:17 AM EDT
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That second one. They've already used ITAR to legislate from the White House. They'll do it again. They'll keep on doing it until the entire industry is a bureaucratic mess that no one but the likes of their favored contractors dares to engage in it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This shit will either lead to 1776 all over again or pacified American's giving up their right. That second one. They've already used ITAR to legislate from the White House. They'll do it again. They'll keep on doing it until the entire industry is a bureaucratic mess that no one but the likes of their favored contractors dares to engage in it. This. DoS realized you can regulate damn near anything with the USML and require payment of a fee, so why not? Further, whatever you can't shoehorn into the USML, the president has the authority to unilaterally decree anything a defense article subject to the USML. Once something is designated by the prez as a defense article subject to the USML it is unreviewable by any court. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:22:39 AM EDT
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Wilson made plans available for download for a 3D printable pistol. DoS demanded he take them down and remove them from the internet because by making them available he was violating ITAR since plans for things such as firearms are on the USML, and by posting them online he was alleged to have been "exporting" them since someone from another country could access it. He took it down, and IIRC has filed suit against DoS for violating his 1A rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If this doesn't get you to get out there and vote for trump, I don't know why you're even here. He may or may not fix this, but with Hillary its only going to get worse. I'd add that its just more proof the DDTC and DoS needs to be reigned in with respect to ITAR and the USML. Everyone remember Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed? No. What's the abridged version? Wilson made plans available for download for a 3D printable pistol. DoS demanded he take them down and remove them from the internet because by making them available he was violating ITAR since plans for things such as firearms are on the USML, and by posting them online he was alleged to have been "exporting" them since someone from another country could access it. He took it down, and IIRC has filed suit against DoS for violating his 1A rights. It's nothing less than the Federal government asserting ownership over your thoughts, plans, technical data, and ideas before you express them and telling them when, where, and how you can express them. Madness. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:25:19 AM EDT
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Step 1: Require most FFL / SOTs to pay ITAR fees.
Step 2: Raise ITAR fees to something prohibitive, like $10,000-20,000. Step 3: ? |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:25:43 AM EDT
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Yep, and who is going to enforce it? the UN, lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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meh, just ignore it... we're at the point in this country where you just begin to ignore laws. The people in charge don't follow them, so clear your conscious and don't worry so much. Yep, and who is going to enforce it? the UN, lol US State Department defense trade controls. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:27:48 AM EDT
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DO NOT COMPLY!
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:31:27 AM EDT
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US State Department defense trade controls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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meh, just ignore it... we're at the point in this country where you just begin to ignore laws. The people in charge don't follow them, so clear your conscious and don't worry so much. Yep, and who is going to enforce it? the UN, lol US State Department defense trade controls. And are they a law enforcement agency with arrest powers? |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:31:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: President Trump could erase all FBHO's EO's. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:33:19 AM EDT
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The good news is fucking EOs have no checks and balances and never expire. And can be rescinded in 6 months by the new president. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:34:12 AM EDT
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He's not a gentleman and the only time has a dick is when his tranny wife is pegging him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The gentleman currently occupying the White House really is a dick. He's not a gentleman and the only time has a dick is when his tranny wife is pegging him. Fixed that for ya... |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:38:31 AM EDT
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The good news is fucking EOs have no checks and balances and never expire. And can be rescinded in 6 months by the new president. Or left for another 4 years by that shithead Hillary. We have to drop the house on this wicked witch of the west named Hillary and be done with her forever
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:42:01 AM EDT
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He would be required to registered with the State Department as a manufacturer of items on the munitions list and pay ITAR. This EO, if it stands, will put alot of small gunsmiths out of business. But hey, fuck them, right? At least they live in a free country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jeez people, take a chill. First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. What about Ol' Joe at the gun club who beads barrels for $50 or taps receivers to mount scopes for $30? Isn't he engaged in business? Isn't he machining shit? He would be required to registered with the State Department as a manufacturer of items on the munitions list and pay ITAR. This EO, if it stands, will put alot of small gunsmiths out of business. But hey, fuck them, right? At least they live in a free country. And that is the whole purpose of this EO. They certainly can't claim that it's about safety. They know that they can't just outright ban and confiscate weapons. So they keep chipping away at it, every chance they get: make it more difficult and expensive to shoot (put smiths out of business, ban lead ammo, close public ranges, tax ammo, etc), discourage young shooters from taking it up by brainwashing them in school and on TV, kill off hunting traditions, etc. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:44:12 AM EDT
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Don't think the cost of a furnace to melt down 25 lbs of brass would justify the .15 per lb increase. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Took my scrap brass pile to the yard today. They only paid .35 instead of .50 per lb, as the federal rules for "exportation of "ammunition"" have changed, per the gal behind the counter. She said the company they sell to exports the scrap, so they can't pay top price for yellow brass. I call BS, but what's a feller to do??? Melt it down There was a thread here a while back, where a member was building a smelter for something like $50. Galvanized steel pail, plaster of Paris, thrift shop hair dryer, and a cut up fire extinguisher for a crucible. I'd link the thread, but the link was on a HD that fried. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:19:44 AM EDT
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No read it again.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Jeez people, take a chill. First off read the actual directive. It affects anyone who is "engaged in business" (FFL's). It does not differentiate classes of FFL's be it 01, 07, SOT's etc. It defines "Manufacturing" pretty clearly. It has the potential to affect any FFL who performs any operation on a firearm other than the most basic of tasks. Yes, it's a bad deal and may a AIDS infected bottle brush be used in every orifice of those behind it. The best chance we have is respectfully contacting our legislators on this. No read it again.... I've read the thing 50 times. Help me out here, what am I not seeing? |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:25:05 AM EDT
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I think that we were all prescientbenough to know some form of EO was going to come from him affecting an aspect of the people's ability to bear arms. Going after the manufacturers is a shrewd choice.
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:46:41 AM EDT
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FBHO FHRC |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 7:55:42 AM EDT
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The gentleman motherfuckercurrently occupying the White House really is a dicksucker. Fixed. |
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