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Posted: 7/24/2016 10:53:42 PM EDT
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A couple months ago there was a story on the news about a guy who was kicked out of a grocery store when he brought in his emotional support macaw.
The news had a field day with it. No where in the story at all did they mention that emotional support animals aren't covered by the ADA and that the store was doing what it was required to both due to FDA and State laws. They even paraded out his registered support animal card. I looked up the 'Registry' on his card, and for only $64.95 you too can register your support dog, bird, goat, mini-horse, cat, ferret, pig, monkey, hedgehog, or other... https://www.nsarco.com/emotional-support-animal-registration-kit.html |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 10:54:37 PM EDT
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If your dog is behaved, I don't really care where you take them. My GSD is better behaved in public than most children. My problem is people with disobedient dogs that they try and excuse with some eBay vest. Edit: Paging Piccolo. We need your seeing eye cat stories in here please. I don't give a fuck if your dog is more wel behaved than most children. If a business says no dogs, respect it. Don't get some BS paperwork or vest to take it wherever you feel like it. Not saying you do this. Just speaking in general. |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 10:58:32 PM EDT
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We had a student with an "emotional support dog in training" that ending up going berserk and biting another student.
Student was expelled (she hadn't registered the dog with the appropriate office), the dog was seized by animal control and put down. 
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Posted: 7/24/2016 10:58:57 PM EDT
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Therapy dogs aren't service animals. They aren't for one person exclusively. They don't fall under ADA, because that's not their function. Like I said, I'm tired of people confusing the two. Therapy Dogs International is who I had my bull terrier certified through. We visited a local nursing home as a handler/canine team, visiting the residents and occasionally helping with their occupational therapy (residents would brush him to help with fine motor skill maintenance). There were no special hotel perks, or flight perks, or going into businesses perks of anything like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You're not talking about therapy dogs. Therapy dogs are the dogs who go visit patients in hospitals, nursing homes, and hospice facilities. They help child abuse/molestation victims and sexual assault victims, etc. They are highly trained and certified. What you are describing is an emotional support dog, possibly PTSD dogs as well. Very, very different things. And I'm sort of tired of people confusing the two. Probably more tired than you are of seeing the dogs out in public. Incorrect. The ADA does not have a category for "Therapy Dogs." Therapy dogs are nothing but well behaved animals that places that don't have to allow animals allow because they're well behaved and they make people feel good. There are Service Animals (limited to canines, and in some cases miniature horses), those animals are the ones that are stringently tested and certified. A Service Animal is placed with someone with a lifelong disability, and proves that it can do tasks that the person it's serving can't do without assistance. http://www.psychdogpartners.org/resources/frequently-asked-questions/laws Therapy dogs aren't service animals. They aren't for one person exclusively. They don't fall under ADA, because that's not their function. Like I said, I'm tired of people confusing the two. Therapy Dogs International is who I had my bull terrier certified through. We visited a local nursing home as a handler/canine team, visiting the residents and occasionally helping with their occupational therapy (residents would brush him to help with fine motor skill maintenance). There were no special hotel perks, or flight perks, or going into businesses perks of anything like that. I know you knew what I meant, and I hope as often as I come into contact with you in threads like this, you know I didn't direct that at you. 
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Posted: 7/24/2016 11:01:03 PM EDT
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We have one at work, he makes me feel better every time I kick him!
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Posted: 7/24/2016 11:30:37 PM EDT
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My neighbor across the road has a Buff Orphington hen named Stella that she brings to the assisted living facility in the next town.
The residents like the hen and the interaction. If she didn't hunt deer and elk with a 45/70 she could be considered a bit strange. |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 11:42:23 PM EDT
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We had some members complaining about someone in our store a year or so ago with an Iguana! We finally track him down and sure as shit it is a "service animal" for emotional support and we couldn't do shit about it.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:45:56 AM EDT
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People are fucking selfish and half of these types like having their dog around for extra fucking attention. It's a simple matter of money. $250 every time I fly, or $99 to get an emo dog letter and fly for free. I'm retarded for giving the airline the money. It's just throwing it away. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:27:49 AM EDT
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I don't give a fuck if your dog is more wel behaved than most children. If a business says no dogs, respect it. Don't get some BS paperwork or vest to take it wherever you feel like it. Not saying you do this. Just speaking in general. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If your dog is behaved, I don't really care where you take them. My GSD is better behaved in public than most children. My problem is people with disobedient dogs that they try and excuse with some eBay vest. Edit: Paging Piccolo. We need your seeing eye cat stories in here please. I don't give a fuck if your dog is more wel behaved than most children. If a business says no dogs, respect it. Don't get some BS paperwork or vest to take it wherever you feel like it. Not saying you do this. Just speaking in general. What if a business says "No Children"? 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:44:49 AM EDT
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If your dog is behaved, I don't really care where you take them. My GSD is better behaved in public than most children. My problem is people with disobedient dogs that they try and excuse with some eBay vest. Edit: Paging Piccolo. We need your seeing eye cat stories in here please. I don't give a fuck if your dog is more wel behaved than most children. If a business says no dogs, respect it. Don't get some BS paperwork or vest to take it wherever you feel like it. Not saying you do this. Just speaking in general. What if a business says "No Children"? I've kicked out people with misbehaving kids. From what I understand I can't do that with these stupid dogs. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 1:58:07 AM EDT
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Every dog I've owned has been a therapy dog. Every day I get home with the intense desire to strangle people while cackling maniacally. But after a half hour of playing with my dog the feeling recedes from "Must do right now" to "Ok, I'll let them live another day".
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Posted: 7/25/2016 2:01:31 AM EDT
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lol...
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Posted: 7/25/2016 2:07:30 AM EDT
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My GSD is a therapy dog. I get a lot of "emotional support" from watching him tear someone's arm off.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 2:50:51 AM EDT
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Therapy dogs aren't service animals. They aren't for one person exclusively. They don't fall under ADA, because that's not their function. Like I said, I'm tired of people confusing the two. Therapy Dogs International is who I had my bull terrier certified through. We visited a local nursing home as a handler/canine team, visiting the residents and occasionally helping with their occupational therapy (residents would brush him to help with fine motor skill maintenance). There were no special hotel perks, or flight perks, or going into businesses perks of anything like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You're not talking about therapy dogs. Therapy dogs are the dogs who go visit patients in hospitals, nursing homes, and hospice facilities. They help child abuse/molestation victims and sexual assault victims, etc. They are highly trained and certified. What you are describing is an emotional support dog, possibly PTSD dogs as well. Very, very different things. And I'm sort of tired of people confusing the two. Probably more tired than you are of seeing the dogs out in public. Incorrect. The ADA does not have a category for "Therapy Dogs." Therapy dogs are nothing but well behaved animals that places that don't have to allow animals allow because they're well behaved and they make people feel good. There are Service Animals (limited to canines, and in some cases miniature horses), those animals are the ones that are stringently tested and certified. A Service Animal is placed with someone with a lifelong disability, and proves that it can do tasks that the person it's serving can't do without assistance. http://www.psychdogpartners.org/resources/frequently-asked-questions/laws Therapy dogs aren't service animals. They aren't for one person exclusively. They don't fall under ADA, because that's not their function. Like I said, I'm tired of people confusing the two. Therapy Dogs International is who I had my bull terrier certified through. We visited a local nursing home as a handler/canine team, visiting the residents and occasionally helping with their occupational therapy (residents would brush him to help with fine motor skill maintenance). There were no special hotel perks, or flight perks, or going into businesses perks of anything like that. Naamah is one of the few people who has posted accurate information about therapy dogs in this thread. Therapy dogs is something you get involved in because you want to volunteer and help. There are no perks or special accomodations to getting your dog this certification. It requires a well trained, chill dog and a bit of $$ and time to certify your animal. My wife and our little mutt do this and help with the local TDI chapter. She routinely sees people's dogs fail the certification test. The dog can only test for therapy work so many times, I think it was 3 fails and the dog is banned for life from becoming a certified therapy dog. The test is not impossible, but any dog off the street will not pass without practice. It costs time and money to do this. Mostly retired people who want to help out. Hospital work, library programs, old folks homes, stuff like that. Know that if you see a certified TDI therapy dog, it will be well behaved among all groups of people, and will be up to date on all vaccines. If you have heard of the canine good citizen program, it is like that but a much more difficult test to pass for the beast. I totally get what your railing against, but that is not therapy dogs nor therapy dog work. Call it emotional support animal nonsense. 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:32:11 AM EDT
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I think that therapy/support dogs are just an easy thing to take advantage from. Properly trained and for the right cases they are very valuable. But it's just impossible to tell which are legit and which are a case of bullshit selfishness.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:35:02 AM EDT
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Walking through the shop and a customer has a lap dog she's pushing around in a stroller with a vest that says "emotional support" on it. 
We allow dogs in our place anyway so it's no big deal, but fuck you if you're doing it to take your pet anywhere because you want to. Two weeks ago it was a woman with a great dane. These people aren't fucking handicapped. They're people who don't give a fuck about respecting another persons property or rules for their business. Scum bags. Pobrecito. 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:39:52 AM EDT
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I'm with this guy. Therapy dogs are bullshit. Seeing-eye dogs and such---fine. Dogs that are trained to bring people without limbs things that they're trained to bring them? Fine. "Emotional Support" dogs? Bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Walking through the shop and a customer has a lap dog she's pushing around in a stroller with a vest that says "emotional support" on it.
We allow dogs in our place anyway so it's no big deal, but fuck you if you're doing it to take your pet anywhere because you want to. Two weeks ago it was a woman with a great dane. These people aren't fucking handicapped. They're people who don't give a fuck about respecting another persons property or rules for their business. Scum bags. I'm with this guy. Therapy dogs are bullshit. Seeing-eye dogs and such---fine. Dogs that are trained to bring people without limbs things that they're trained to bring them? Fine. "Emotional Support" dogs? Bullshit. Really. I know a guy with type 1 diabetes that has had his life saved at least 20 times by his helper dog. I'd suggest not limiting it to "seeing eye dogs." |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:40:42 AM EDT
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Therapy lemur
http://www.dailycamera.com/boulder-county-news/ci_30154618/nederland-lemur-that-bit-toddler-is-custody-its boom mind blown! |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:46:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When we have an apartment for rent, we get trolls who don't even want a place, but apply to see if you accept support animals or (they call them service animals but say it's for stress or anxiety) and threaten you if you don't want a Great Dane in a studio....  I tell them to get lost. They never actually sue. Very odd. Fair housing council actually uses people to call apartments and such and act a certain role, to see if they are playing by the rules. My wife and I both did that in our younger years. People who violated the law were subject to some hefty penalties IIRC. As for the dogs. My daughter, who is autistic has a trained service dog. Dog is trained to "ground" her, to find me (or to find her if I am holding the leash) or to prevent her from wandering. Not all disabilities are outwardly obvious. Untrained dogs are a liability though. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:50:42 AM EDT
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After working with a lot of disabled OIF/OEF vets with therapy dogs and training/donating a GSD from a expensive blood line to a Sapper I met while in a WTU. I can see the benefit of these dogs. The ones that were properly / professional trained that is. Purse pooches no. Larger working line dogs yes.
Went by to check on him and his dog recently, hugged me and informed me that he wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the dog. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:53:46 AM EDT
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Can I get a Therapy Escort? Maybe some hot 25 year old woman that'll let me lead her around on a leash? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:58:37 AM EDT
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I'm with you OP. I go to tech school and there was a guy younger than me (he looked mid 20s) with a PTSD dog registering for industrial maintenance. Does this fucking millennial snow flake really think he's going to be employed with that. God damn fragile man child's.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 4:12:40 AM EDT
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This thread reminded me of this video. An excellent video, IMO. To the people who are abusing the system because they are special snowflakes...screw them. And...another worthwhile video.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 4:40:09 AM EDT
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People taking their dogs everywhere seems to be a thing now. When I got my tires changed last year some asshole brought his dog to the waiting room. It barked and jumped on people. I had to go to another branch of the store because they didn't have the right tires. Some dick brought his dog there too and was playing catch with his dog and a frisbee in the waiting area. I'd bring my dog more places if it was allowed...I do bring her to Tractor Supply when I visit there and she is generally well received. I'll be honest. I've toyed with the idea of having her certified as an emotional support animal, mainly so I would be able to take her into the passenger compartment of planes and not have her flown as cargo. Only reason I haven't is because I've never gotten her trained to the level of a "real" service dog. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:04:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really. I know a guy with type 1 diabetes that has had his life saved at least 20 times by his helper dog. I'd suggest not limiting it to "seeing eye dogs." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Walking through the shop and a customer has a lap dog she's pushing around in a stroller with a vest that says "emotional support" on it. We allow dogs in our place anyway so it's no big deal, but fuck you if you're doing it to take your pet anywhere because you want to. Two weeks ago it was a woman with a great dane. These people aren't fucking handicapped. They're people who don't give a fuck about respecting another persons property or rules for their business. Scum bags. I'm with this guy. Therapy dogs are bullshit. Seeing-eye dogs and such---fine. Dogs that are trained to bring people without limbs things that they're trained to bring them? Fine. "Emotional Support" dogs? Bullshit. Really. I know a guy with type 1 diabetes that has had his life saved at least 20 times by his helper dog. I'd suggest not limiting it to "seeing eye dogs." |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:09:32 AM EDT
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After working with a lot of disabled OIF/OEF vets with therapy dogs and training/donating a GSD from a expensive blood line to a Sapper I met while in a WTU. I can see the benefit of these dogs. The ones that were properly / professional trained that is. Purse pooches no. Larger working line dogs yes. Went by to check on him and his dog recently, hugged me and informed me that he wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the dog. I can tell by the replies in this thread that there are a lot of people here who haven't dealt with mental illness or people who are for whatever reason emotionally scarred. For those folks, whether they are vets or not, these therapy dogs are literally life savers. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:15:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can tell by the replies in this thread that there are a lot of people here who haven't dealt with mental illness or people who are for whatever reason emotionally scarred. For those folks, whether they are vets or not, these therapy dogs are literally life savers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: After working with a lot of disabled OIF/OEF vets with therapy dogs and training/donating a GSD from a expensive blood line to a Sapper I met while in a WTU. I can see the benefit of these dogs. The ones that were properly / professional trained that is. Purse pooches no. Larger working line dogs yes. Went by to check on him and his dog recently, hugged me and informed me that he wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the dog. I can tell by the replies in this thread that there are a lot of people here who haven't dealt with mental illness or people who are for whatever reason emotionally scarred. For those folks, whether they are vets or not, these therapy dogs are literally life savers. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:20:54 AM EDT
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It's cool if you have to have your dog go everywhere you go but keep him off of me . No I don't want to pet him or have him go and sniffing around me ,
It's your hangup not mine . |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:51:29 AM EDT
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Why dont we just co-opt this?
No guns allowed here huh? Well this is my therapy gun, I have to have it with me, cause reasons. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:57:37 AM EDT
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I was in a dark place in my life after getting out of the Marines back in 2010 and my little terrier saved my life. My niece went looking for shelter dog and I decided to go with her. As I'm walking around I see this like 13lb terrier (like Toto from Wizard of Oz). The little guy was shaking in the corner of the cage and I could tell he was freaked out.
I sat down in front of the cage and just talked to him for a bit. At one point I put my hand in the cage. He finally got up, walked slowly over, and then started licking my hand. After talking a bit more I started petting his head. It was then I turn around to find 3 of the shelter employees standing behind me with a look of shock. They go on to tell me they had Rigley for a few months and he's their "problem child." He supposedly had really bad resource guarding, would snap/snarl if you tried to touch him, and just a list of other issues. Behavioral experts came in 2x a week and he was one of their main projects. They told me he wasn't adoptable until they get him properly adjusted. After some convincing they finally opened the gate. The dog runs over and jumps in my arms/trying to give me kisses. We take him in a side room with toys and he instantly starts playing with me..chasing balls, tug of war, etc.. The staff had not seen ANY of this. Cont... |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:59:39 AM EDT
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His behavior packet had about 10+ pages detailing his issues, treatment, the lack of progress, etc.
After some pleading, I finally convinced them to allow me to adopt him It's now been 2 years later and Rigley and I are inseparable. He's never bit me, if I stick my face near his bowl while eating, he'll move to the side and act like he's sharing. He follows me everywhere and even sleeps on my bed. Everyone loves him...he takes a bit of warming up but soon as he realizes you're good, he's best of pals. Yeah, he has a bad under-bite, scraggly, VERY sensitive, and isn't going to win beauty contests anytime soon. But I swear that dog saved my life. Even when you're feeling at your lowest and alone, just having a dog leaning on you with absolute unconditional love can really take that edge off. I've thought about registering him as a therapy dog because even when I'm out, he has a very positive effect on my anxiety issues. But like I said, inseparable. HE does everything with me..like giving wind values when shooting my pellet rifle (FWB300S) 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 6:02:25 AM EDT
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I've never been bothered by an animal in a store. They're well-behaved and quiet.
What is it, exactly, that infuriates you so? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 6:38:08 AM EDT
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If your dog is behaved, I don't really care where you take them. My GSD is better behaved in public than most children. My problem is people with disobedient dogs that they try and excuse with some eBay vest. Edit: Paging Piccolo. We need your seeing eye cat stories in here please. I don't give a fuck if your dog is more wel behaved than most children. If a business says no dogs, respect it. Don't get some BS paperwork or vest to take it wherever you feel like it. Not saying you do this. Just speaking in general. What if a business says "No Children"? If it's a restaurant, I'd eat there every day. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 6:46:19 AM EDT
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I like "therapy dogs". I can see from a distance a person I don't want to waste my time on. That is a very good point - it's like an instant "wacko" detector.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 6:47:42 AM EDT
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Op needs more broke back mountain.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 8:22:57 AM EDT
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I'm going to try to get my doctor to write me a script for an emotional support caiman.  I have been wanting to get a "stress relief" rattlesnake to carry around in public. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 8:47:05 AM EDT
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Had my GSD seated between my legs on a recent flight. While passengers were still boarding this old lady angrily starts questioning me about how I got him on. Before I could answer the passengers seated in front of me in first class tore into her and sent her on her way
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Posted: 7/25/2016 8:55:53 AM EDT
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Our local post office took down it's sign about "Therapy Animals" and replaced it with another sign that says "Only Animals Assisting the Blind"
Now, how a blind person is supposed to READ that sign is another question... 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 8:58:55 AM EDT
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Efficient. Could return over and over with a new dog. (New to them anyway)
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:02:26 AM EDT
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Attention animals are the worst.
Then again in my observation, dog owners are pretty basic. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:05:57 AM EDT
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My mom does the whole service dog thing. She even has counterfeit service dog cards. I think it's stupid as hell.
That said they are generally well behaved. She mostly uses it at airports and not just random stores. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:06:06 AM EDT
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I don't currently have a dog, but I've already decided that when I do get one (the SO and I both love GSDs) we're going to pay the $150 to get him/her federally registered as a "service dog". From what I hear, no proof or documentation is required beyond a $150 check.
From what I hear (I have not investigated this thoroughly yet) getting kicked-out of a place because of your service dog is a major no-no as far as lawyers are concerned 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:07:31 AM EDT
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Our local post office took down it's sign about "Therapy Animals" and replaced it with another sign that says "Only Animals Assisting the Blind" Now, how a blind person is supposed to READ that sign is another question... The sign ain't for the blind folks. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:11:04 AM EDT
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One of my gfs has a therapy dog. She doesn't take her stupid places using that as an excuse and loathes people who do. I believe in the concept. I've seen how it works.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:11:46 AM EDT
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My boss has a service dog. Best behaved dog I've ever encountered, a Golden Retriever that's trained to recognize some sort of medical condition he has. I don't know what the condition is, and don't care.
I have a regular customer who comes in with his Great Dane. He has MS and at times cannot stand on his own. Tuesday the great big dog moves her shoulders under his hand and works him to the counter while I get him a chair. Meh. I'll save me outrage for another topic. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:14:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginwaste ally Posted By Rico812697: I don't currently have a dog, but I've already decided that when I do get one (the SO and I both love GSDs) we're going to pay the $150 to get him/her federally registered as a "service dog". From what I hear, no proof or documentation is required beyond a $150 check. From what I hear (I have not investigated this thoroughly yet) getting kicked-out of a place because of your service dog is a major no-no as far as lawyers are concerned |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:30:07 AM EDT
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Dogs, and people who love dogs, are not a problem in my world.
I find that the type of person who is upset over dogs being where they aren't generally expected is a much bigger problem. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:33:08 AM EDT
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It's cool if you have to have your dog go everywhere you go but keep him off of me . No I don't want to pet him or have him go and sniffing around me , It's your hangup not mine . Properly trained dogs don't go sniffing around people and people shouldn't be petting working dogs w/o asking first................. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:42:17 AM EDT
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Properly trained dogs don't go sniffing around people and people shouldn't be petting working dogs w/o asking first................. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's cool if you have to have your dog go everywhere you go but keep him off of me . No I don't want to pet him or have him go and sniffing around me , It's your hangup not mine . Properly trained dogs don't go sniffing around people and people shouldn't be petting working dogs w/o asking first................. There has been times people have come up to me and my kids asking if they wanted to pet fluffy . So much so that my youngest daughter is scared of dogs . The point I was making is to keep your pets to yourselves when you must take them with you , not everyone is so enamored with your pet |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:51:59 AM EDT
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Eventually people will be letting their cats run around the grocery store.
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