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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:58:57 AM EDT
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Fuck PSA. They did the same thing to us in CT, if they don't want your money, don't give it to them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What do you guys need from us out of Staters? Support. Donate to Comm2A and NRA-ILA. Write emails([email protected]) and call the Governors office(617-725-4005). Encourage online retailers to not shut us off. We are still allowed to get parts, but places like PSA and Aero Precision have denied shipping to MA since Wednesday. Places like Weapon Outfitters and Ranier Arms have been good to us. Donations made. LaRue did the same thing in NY. Will make phone calls. 
Thank you.  Fuck PSA. They did the same thing to us in CT, if they don't want your money, don't give it to them. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 7:12:55 AM EDT
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I like the musket march idea. Get a large amount of people together with real muskets and BP revolvers with real live ammo ready to load. Then let it be known that you want things to change. If they don't listen, next time you're bringing your "modern muskets."
IANAL, but it appears this may be legal as long as you don't load them. Heck a force of a couple thousand with functional blackpowder weaponry could really scare the freedom haters. Even with the primitive tech, that mob would outgun most of the local state forces. They might be shitty muskets and single action revolvers but they're still guns. Would you want to piss off a guy with a .58 caliber lead launcher? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 7:35:38 AM EDT
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Quite frankly we're fucked.If we do an armed march they'll declare it insurrection. If we flee, they're going to try this shit federally soon enough anyway. Peaceful protest they don't care about, and at best a couple friendly politicians play lip service to. I like the spirit of your idea but it'll be spun to fit their narrative after it's been suppressed. I don't have any good ideas to hope to fix this that don't end in civil war and that should scare the shit out of all of us. Your avatar sir, what about using bows and arrows ? If 600 were carrying those fearsome "over-powered" compound bows ... with quivers filled with fiercely sharp broadheads ... |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 7:42:37 AM EDT
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Quite frankly we're fucked.If we do an armed march they'll declare it insurrection. If we flee, they're going to try this shit federally soon enough anyway. Peaceful protest they don't care about, and at best a couple friendly politicians play lip service to. I like the spirit of your idea but it'll be spun to fit their narrative after it's been suppressed. I don't have any good ideas to hope to fix this that don't end in civil war and that should scare the shit out of all of us. Your avatar sir, what about using bows and arrows ? If 600 were carrying those fearsome "over-powered" compound bows ... with quivers filled with fiercely sharp broadheads ... Is LaRue still selling to MA felons?
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Posted: 7/25/2016 7:47:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just need to get me a musket.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I imagine it would have to approach a battalion sized element in order to have sufficient marchers and associated potential firepower to ensure that, in the event of escalation by the other, the MAD threshold had been reached that would be necessary to ensure something like that remained peaceful. So the next question is, would it be conceivable that 600 people in Massachusetts would be willing to take the risk required to muster and conduct such a march? If a major org like the NRA got behind such a rally, you'd have people flying in nation-wide. But I'm pretty sure, loaded or unloaded, slinging a rifle across your chest is illegal...so they probably wouldn't make such a call. But a massive protest bearing arms is EXACTLY what is needed here....something that LE and NG couldn't handle without triggering the start of a civil war. Like I said earlier, traditional tactics can't be used when the crowd is more heavily armed and PEACEFUL than those attempting to break it up and/or arrest people. I agree with needing masks. -Emt1581 I would think everyone carrying muskets in such a march would be a powerful symbolic event. Legal and ominous http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IwJHnEX_jhE/Seual_5l6dI/AAAAAAAAA3g/3RbH76fWPD4/s320/P1030170.JPG Just need to get me a musket.  |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 7:48:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 7:50:53 AM EDT
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Quite frankly we're fucked.If we do an armed march they'll declare it insurrection. If we flee, they're going to try this shit federally soon enough anyway. Peaceful protest they don't care about, and at best a couple friendly politicians play lip service to. I like the spirit of your idea but it'll be spun to fit their narrative after it's been suppressed. I don't have any good ideas to hope to fix this that don't end in civil war and that should scare the shit out of all of us. Your avatar sir, what about using bows and arrows ? If 600 were carrying those fearsome "over-powered" compound bows ... with quivers filled with fiercely sharp broadheads ... Is LaRue still selling to MA felons? Funny you say that as I have spent more for Boston lawyers than any industry partner on this board. And I'm still waiting on Massachusett's gun owners to pass the hat. 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 7:51:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the musket march idea. Get a large amount of people together with real muskets and BP revolvers with real live ammo ready to load. Then let it be known that you want things to change. If they don't listen, next time you're bringing your "modern muskets." IANAL, but it appears this may be legal as long as you don't load them. Heck a force of a couple thousand with functional blackpowder weaponry could really scare the freedom haters. Even with the primitive tech, that mob would outgun most of the local state forces. They might be shitty muskets and single action revolvers but they're still guns. Would you want to piss off a guy with a .58 caliber lead launcher? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 7:53:30 AM EDT
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Funny you say that as I have spent more for Boston lawyers than any industry partner on this board. And I'm still waiting on Massachusett's gun owners to pass the hat. [/b]Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quite frankly we're fucked.If we do an armed march they'll declare it insurrection. If we flee, they're going to try this shit federally soon enough anyway. Peaceful protest they don't care about, and at best a couple friendly politicians play lip service to. I like the spirit of your idea but it'll be spun to fit their narrative after it's been suppressed. I don't have any good ideas to hope to fix this that don't end in civil war and that should scare the shit out of all of us. Your avatar sir, what about using bows and arrows ? If 600 were carrying those fearsome "over-powered" compound bows ... with quivers filled with fiercely sharp broadheads ... Is LaRue still selling to MA felons? Funny you say that as I have spent more for Boston lawyers than any industry partner on this board. And I'm still waiting on Massachusett's gun owners to pass the hat. [/b]Anything AR15 related you WILL get my business from now on. Going to place an order for some miscellaneous stuff today. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 8:39:26 AM EDT
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Funny you say that as I have spent more for Boston lawyers than any industry partner on this board. And I'm still waiting on Massachusett's gun owners to pass the hat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quite frankly we're fucked.If we do an armed march they'll declare it insurrection. If we flee, they're going to try this shit federally soon enough anyway. Peaceful protest they don't care about, and at best a couple friendly politicians play lip service to. I like the spirit of your idea but it'll be spun to fit their narrative after it's been suppressed. I don't have any good ideas to hope to fix this that don't end in civil war and that should scare the shit out of all of us. Your avatar sir, what about using bows and arrows ? If 600 were carrying those fearsome "over-powered" compound bows ... with quivers filled with fiercely sharp broadheads ... Is LaRue still selling to MA felons? Funny you say that as I have spent more for Boston lawyers than any industry partner on this board. And I'm still waiting on Massachusett's gun owners to pass the hat. What did the AG threaten you with, exactly? And what were the implied penalties? I'm curious as to what her leverage is, exactly. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:48:40 AM EDT
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What did the AG threaten you with, exactly? And what were the implied penalties? I'm curious as to what her leverage is, exactly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quite frankly we're fucked.If we do an armed march they'll declare it insurrection. If we flee, they're going to try this shit federally soon enough anyway. Peaceful protest they don't care about, and at best a couple friendly politicians play lip service to. I like the spirit of your idea but it'll be spun to fit their narrative after it's been suppressed. I don't have any good ideas to hope to fix this that don't end in civil war and that should scare the shit out of all of us. Your avatar sir, what about using bows and arrows ? If 600 were carrying those fearsome "over-powered" compound bows ... with quivers filled with fiercely sharp broadheads ... Is LaRue still selling to MA felons? Funny you say that as I have spent more for Boston lawyers than any industry partner on this board. And I'm still waiting on Massachusett's gun owners to pass the hat. What did the AG threaten you with, exactly? And what were the implied penalties? I'm curious as to what her leverage is, exactly. The AG hasn't threatened anybody other than the more-than-implied threat of having to write multiple checks to the Boston lawyer of one's chosing. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:55:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:20:41 AM EDT
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I have been less than impressed with MA when I visited. I went up there for a service rifle match a few years ago, and had someone harass me for open carrying my M9. While in a Marine Corps uniform. At a shooting range. Fucking tards. 
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Are there enough Massachusetts men with "assault rifles" to muster on Lexington Green in an orderly fashion for a protest? Figure 100 ought to be a good number to start. It could be on a weekend since they surely have jobs. Carrying their rifles of course. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Good luck OC'ing a gun here. I have been less than impressed with MA when I visited. I went up there for a service rifle match a few years ago, and had someone harass me for open carrying my M9. While in a Marine Corps uniform. At a shooting range. Fucking tards.
*ETA Present company presumably excluded, of course. *ETA2 Do you really think if there was an organized, fall in formation style protest on Lexington Green of all places, with 100 dudes slinging ARs, that the local police would want to fuck that even with the neighboring city's dick? It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they called out the national guard on such a protest. Lexington is about as passionately anti-gun as it gets, even in MA. It may have been the birthplace of freedom, but human civilization started in Africa and look how far they've gotten. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:21:43 AM EDT
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Amazing how times have changed.....
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:26:51 AM EDT
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Quite a few. A lot of young folks, 20-30 year olds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Judging from the protest, how many people do you think would be capable of walking 11 miles that were protesting? The gears in my head are turning, and it involves trying to get enough people to turn out for a march, openly carrying arms, that musters on Lexington Green and marches to Breed's Hill (the Battle of Bunker Hill monument) that the powers that be are hesitant to attempt to stop it. Quite a few. A lot of young folks, 20-30 year olds. I would definitely attend. I can't carry in MA, but I could muster a Western NH Regiment to come down and march, for sure. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:00:08 AM EDT
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I would think everyone carrying muskets in such a march would be a powerful symbolic event. Legal and ominous
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I imagine it would have to approach a battalion sized element in order to have sufficient marchers and associated potential firepower to ensure that, in the event of escalation by the other, the MAD threshold had been reached that would be necessary to ensure something like that remained peaceful. So the next question is, would it be conceivable that 600 people in Massachusetts would be willing to take the risk required to muster and conduct such a march? If a major org like the NRA got behind such a rally, you'd have people flying in nation-wide. But I'm pretty sure, loaded or unloaded, slinging a rifle across your chest is illegal...so they probably wouldn't make such a call. But a massive protest bearing arms is EXACTLY what is needed here....something that LE and NG couldn't handle without triggering the start of a civil war. Like I said earlier, traditional tactics can't be used when the crowd is more heavily armed and PEACEFUL than those attempting to break it up and/or arrest people. I agree with needing masks. -Emt1581 I would think everyone carrying muskets in such a march would be a powerful symbolic event. Legal and ominous
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IwJHnEX_jhE/Seual_5l6dI/AAAAAAAAA3g/3RbH76fWPD4/s320/P1030170.JPG I could use an excuse to own a good quality reproduction musket. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:02:26 AM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:03:35 AM EDT
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Funny you say that as I have spent more for Boston lawyers than any industry partner on this board. And I'm still waiting on Massachusett's gun owners to pass the hat. Those that continue selling to MA, automatically get my money.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:04:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryGod, I pray that woman dies an agonizing, horrible death.... |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:51:53 AM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. I'm confused, didn't they allow you to keep your ARs but you simply can not sell or buy any? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:07:59 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. A perfect storm. 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:10:23 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. A perfect storm. Yep!
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:11:36 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. Absolutely sickening and disgusting JBT's ...You Betcha
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:16:09 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. Under what premise? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:16:41 PM EDT
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Anything AR15 related you WILL get my business from now on. Going to place an order for some miscellaneous stuff today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quite frankly we're fucked.If we do an armed march they'll declare it insurrection. If we flee, they're going to try this shit federally soon enough anyway. Peaceful protest they don't care about, and at best a couple friendly politicians play lip service to. I like the spirit of your idea but it'll be spun to fit their narrative after it's been suppressed. I don't have any good ideas to hope to fix this that don't end in civil war and that should scare the shit out of all of us. Your avatar sir, what about using bows and arrows ? If 600 were carrying those fearsome "over-powered" compound bows ... with quivers filled with fiercely sharp broadheads ... Is LaRue still selling to MA felons? Funny you say that as I have spent more for Boston lawyers than any industry partner on this board. And I'm still waiting on Massachusett's gun owners to pass the hat. [/b]Anything AR15 related you WILL get my business from now on. Going to place an order for some miscellaneous stuff today. +1, was getting ready to buy a BA barrel, which are very good, but going LaRue
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:18:07 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. Under what premise? We don'tneednostinkin4thamendment is my guess. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:24:44 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. Just following orders. 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:37:12 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. Under what premise? Transporting firearms in unlocked cases. Which is illegal in MA. But very rarely enforced, let alone checked for. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:44:57 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. If true that is seriously fucked. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:54:22 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. Under what premise? Protecting their precious fucking dental plan. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:54:28 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. PRIVATE PROPERTY? COME BACK WITH A WARRANT? FILE A COMPLAINT |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 2:42:46 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. Any updates on this one? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:30:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:40:57 PM EDT
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. How in the blue fuck does this idiot woman's declaration translate into what you may or may not have in your car? Any cop that goes along on such a fishing trip deserves to be thrown overboard. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:41:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 4:45:48 PM EDT
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I'm confused, didn't they allow you to keep your ARs but you simply can not sell or buy any? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. I'm confused, didn't they allow you to keep your ARs but you simply can not sell or buy any? Her ruling made the sale, and possession, of all semi-autos illegal. She just stated no action would be taken on people who already were owners.....yet! If you have an "assault weapon" clone that was not made before 1994 , that gun is a felonious possession. The sale, transfer, or possession of an “Assault weapon,” as defined in Section 121, is unlawful pursuant to G.L. c. 140, §§ 128 and 131M.
The AGO reserves the right to alter or amend this guidance. Here is what Jim Wallace of GOAL (Massachusett's gun rights organization) said to the Herald (local paper): What I basically said was that our phones were blowing up with questions about complying with the new law.
One of the many questions was, "Is it OK to bring my semi-autos to the range?" Our response has been. "We simply don’t know because the AG has already declared you to be a felon." It is not a stretch that an unfriendly chief or DA could easily use that against you. Lets say you get pulled over on the way for something minor and you have a newly declared "illegal" gun in the car, we simply don’t know what could happen. For example, the chief in a gun-unfriendly town like Lowell might say, "Give up your license or we will prosecute you for illegal possession of an assault weapon." Or worse, if the violation (or whatever you want to call it) got to an eager DA, they could now hold a ten-year felony over your head. That is how insidious this thing is, we simply don’t know. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 4:50:00 PM EDT
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Her ruling made the sale, and possession, of all semi-autos illegal. She just stated no action would be taken on people who already were owners.....yet! If you have an "assault weapon" clone that was not made before 1994 , that gun is a felonious possession. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. I'm confused, didn't they allow you to keep your ARs but you simply can not sell or buy any? Her ruling made the sale, and possession, of all semi-autos illegal. She just stated no action would be taken on people who already were owners.....yet! If you have an "assault weapon" clone that was not made before 1994 , that gun is a felonious possession. The sale, transfer, or possession of an “Assault weapon,” as defined in Section 121, is unlawful pursuant to G.L. c. 140, §§ 128 and 131M.
The AGO reserves the right to alter or amend this guidance. So basically the AG created a new type of criminal in America: The for-now-unindicted felon. And she specifically did it to gun owners first. Interesting. Does she plan to open a gulag for people convicted of hate speech? This is how you turn your political opponents into not just criminals, but "enemies of the state" like they did in the USSR. 
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Posted: 7/25/2016 4:54:24 PM EDT
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So basically the AG created a new type of criminal in America: The for-now-unindicted felon. And she specifically did it to gun owners first. Interesting. Does she plan to open a gulag for people convicted of hate speech? This is how you turn your political opponents into not just criminals, but "enemies of the state" like they did in the USSR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unconfirmed reports of Gloucester cops showing up at a local range and checking to see what folks have in their cars. I'm confused, didn't they allow you to keep your ARs but you simply can not sell or buy any? Her ruling made the sale, and possession, of all semi-autos illegal. She just stated no action would be taken on people who already were owners.....yet! If you have an "assault weapon" clone that was not made before 1994 , that gun is a felonious possession. The sale, transfer, or possession of an “Assault weapon,” as defined in Section 121, is unlawful pursuant to G.L. c. 140, §§ 128 and 131M.
The AGO reserves the right to alter or amend this guidance. So basically the AG created a new type of criminal in America: The for-now-unindicted felon. And she specifically did it to gun owners first. Interesting. Does she plan to open a gulag for people convicted of hate speech? This is how you turn your political opponents into not just criminals, but "enemies of the state" like they did in the USSR. That's the million dollar question. What's next? It really is a pandora's box she has opened. And that is what I have told to uninformed, non gun owners. Could be gay rights, could be abortion, could be free speach. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:00:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:01:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:That's the million dollar question. What's next? It really is a pandora's box she has opened. And that is what I have told to uninformed, non gun owners. Could be gay rights, could be abortion, could be free speach. It's a dictatorship, anything she wants. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:03:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:06:17 PM EDT
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What do you guys need from us out of Staters? Support. Donate to Comm2A and NRA-ILA. Write emails([email protected]) and call the Governors office(617-725-4005). Encourage online retailers to not shut us off. We are still allowed to get parts, but places like PSA and Aero Precision have denied shipping to MA since Wednesday. Places like Weapon Outfitters and Ranier Arms have been good to us. Donations made. Will make phone calls. Not surprisingly - the Governors office hasn't answered the phone all day long. Hang up - Redial Hang up - Redial Hang up - Redial Hang up - Redial Hang up - Redial Etc. Will start again tomorrow. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:06:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:14:40 PM EDT
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That's the million dollar question. What's next? It really is a pandora's box she has opened. And that is what I have told to uninformed, non gun owners. Could be gay rights, could be abortion, could be free speach. What would happen if a republican AG were to "interpret" the voter registration laws to mean that a registration "fee" is not a poll tax so a $200.00 fee will apply to all new voter registrations between now and November? Would the Governor sit back and accept that too? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:15:12 PM EDT
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Any unarmed people are slaves, or are subject to slavery at any given moment. If the guns are taken out of the hands of the people and only the pigs have guns, then it's off to the concentration camps, the gas chambers, or whatever the fascists in America come up with. One of the democratic rights of the United States, the Second Amendment to the Constitution, gives the people the right to bear arms. However, there is a greater right; the right of human dignity that gives all men the right to defend themselves.
Huey P Newton It's too bad Mulford and Reagan had to reinterpret the Second Amendment.for the children,because they were scared of people doing something 100% lawful. Republicans in California supported increased gun control. Reagan was present when the protesters arrived and later commented that he saw "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons" and that guns were a " ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will." In a later press conference, Reagan added that the Mulford Act "would work no hardship on the honest citizen." Point is,bad laws and bad law enforcement are never good things. There are idiots on here who scream about BLM should be labeled a terrorist group without understanding 2 minor issues: for many people in a number of states now,their greatest risk of loss of liberty comes from interaction with a #bluelifethatmatters rather than any black guy or Muslim but more to the point,every law that comes into being can be used against you too. This is what liberals cheering it don't understand about why what Healey is doing is so onerous: just how many laws can be reinterpreted to ban almost anything and fuck with almost anybody. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:18:54 PM EDT
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What would happen if a republican AG were to "interpret" the voter registration laws to mean that a registration "fee" is not a poll tax so a $200.00 fee will apply to all new voter registrations between now and November? Would the Governor sit back and accept that too? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's the million dollar question. What's next? It really is a pandora's box she has opened. And that is what I have told to uninformed, non gun owners. Could be gay rights, could be abortion, could be free speach. What would happen if a republican AG were to "interpret" the voter registration laws to mean that a registration "fee" is not a poll tax so a $200.00 fee will apply to all new voter registrations between now and November? Would the Governor sit back and accept that too? that's a good analogy. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:40:46 PM EDT
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That's the million dollar question. What's next? It really is a pandora's box she has opened. And that is what I have told to uninformed, non gun owners. Could be gay rights, could be abortion, could be free speach. What would happen if a republican AG were to "interpret" the voter registration laws to mean that a registration "fee" is not a poll tax so a $200.00 fee will apply to all new voter registrations between now and November? Would the Governor sit back and accept that too? that's a good analogy. I tried calling all day today to ask them - but they wouldn't answer the phone. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 6:01:03 PM EDT
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I would think everyone carrying muskets in such a march would be a powerful symbolic event. Legal and ominous
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I imagine it would have to approach a battalion sized element in order to have sufficient marchers and associated potential firepower to ensure that, in the event of escalation by the other, the MAD threshold had been reached that would be necessary to ensure something like that remained peaceful. So the next question is, would it be conceivable that 600 people in Massachusetts would be willing to take the risk required to muster and conduct such a march? If a major org like the NRA got behind such a rally, you'd have people flying in nation-wide. But I'm pretty sure, loaded or unloaded, slinging a rifle across your chest is illegal...so they probably wouldn't make such a call. But a massive protest bearing arms is EXACTLY what is needed here....something that LE and NG couldn't handle without triggering the start of a civil war. Like I said earlier, traditional tactics can't be used when the crowd is more heavily armed and PEACEFUL than those attempting to break it up and/or arrest people. I agree with needing masks. -Emt1581 I would think everyone carrying muskets in such a march would be a powerful symbolic event. Legal and ominous
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IwJHnEX_jhE/Seual_5l6dI/AAAAAAAAA3g/3RbH76fWPD4/s320/P1030170.JPG ...and wearing plate carriers. -Emt1581 |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 6:03:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my world, the AG works for the Governor. I guess in politics, the AG works for the governor on paper only, and as an independently elected official can tell him to fuck off. Because I don't know why the Governor hasn't told her to rescind this interpretation/guidance/wtf. Unless he's OK with it. I don't know the guy, but I would imagine to become a Governor of Massachusetts you'd have to be pretty liberal even if you are a "Republican." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:That's the million dollar question. What's next? It really is a pandora's box she has opened. And that is what I have told to uninformed, non gun owners. Could be gay rights, could be abortion, could be free speach. It's a dictatorship, anything she wants. In my world, the AG works for the Governor. I guess in politics, the AG works for the governor on paper only, and as an independently elected official can tell him to fuck off. Because I don't know why the Governor hasn't told her to rescind this interpretation/guidance/wtf. Unless he's OK with it. I don't know the guy, but I would imagine to become a Governor of Massachusetts you'd have to be pretty liberal even if you are a "Republican." |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 6:04:35 PM EDT
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I imagine it would have to approach a battalion sized element in order to have sufficient marchers and associated potential firepower to ensure that, in the event of escalation by the other, the MAD threshold had been reached that would be necessary to ensure something like that remained peaceful. So the next question is, would it be conceivable that 600 people in Massachusetts would be willing to take the risk required to muster and conduct such a march? If a major org like the NRA got behind such a rally, you'd have people flying in nation-wide. But I'm pretty sure, loaded or unloaded, slinging a rifle across your chest is illegal...so they probably wouldn't make such a call. But a massive protest bearing arms is EXACTLY what is needed here....something that LE and NG couldn't handle without triggering the start of a civil war. Like I said earlier, traditional tactics can't be used when the crowd is more heavily armed and PEACEFUL than those attempting to break it up and/or arrest people. I agree with needing masks. -Emt1581 I would think everyone carrying muskets in such a march would be a powerful symbolic event. Legal and ominous
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IwJHnEX_jhE/Seual_5l6dI/AAAAAAAAA3g/3RbH76fWPD4/s320/P1030170.JPG ...and wearing plate carriers. -Emt1581 I bet we could get a killer discount arranged for both items for those signed up to march. |
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