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Posted: 6/28/2016 1:51:20 PM EDT
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Trying, but not really trying, to sell or trade a Battle Flag Colt Competition AR... One of those, if it goes for my price, great, if not, oh well. I tossed it up on one of the last remaining Buy/Sell/Trade groups on the ol' Facebook. I got one offer/message so far... Dude started the discussion with, "Hey man, totally interested in that sick AR. I'm a glass blower and would gladly trade some of my work for it. I also have a 9MM STI 1911 I'd trade with a piece of my work." With his first message he produced 5 pictures of the most ridiculous bongs I have ever seen. With the last one he included, "This is the one I use. It hits hard. I could make another one just like it if you're interested." I hate that Colorado has gone down this path....  I support legalized weed. But damn I fucking hate potheads and the stupidity that is rampant in pot-culture. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 1:51:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know it's a bad idea, yet there you are criticizing op for turning him down because you he can't be sure. Do you not see the hypocrisy? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Know anyone say their Tabacco pipe or Tabacco bong "hits hard"? What percent of Tabacco only smokers use bongs? Give me an honest assessment, you're intention is to not break federal law, do you pick this seller, or someone else? You know it's a bad idea, yet there you are criticizing op for turning him down because you he can't be sure. Do you not see the hypocrisy? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 1:56:56 PM EDT
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I've been pissed ever since prohibition ended OP. It sure is nice being sad old people who hate freedom, we should start a group since we hate freedom and want to control what other people do.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 1:59:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI support legalized weed. But damn I fucking hate potheads and the stupidity that is rampant in pot-culture. This. Pot culture is pretty damn stupid if you ask me, but I have no problem with legalization. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:17:50 PM EDT
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Douglas County and Castle Rock do not allow pot stores. I lived in Colorado for 17 years, 14 of which were in Castle Rock. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My brother just bailed from CO after living there for just shy of 20 years, moving to MN for a job. He lived in Denver, worked for the Vail Resorts - he said that the pot craze has totally ruined the place, and while he would miss the scenery, he wouldn't be missing the whole pothead mentality. Sounds like your brother might be the one with the problem, if that's the reason he left. There is no "whole pothead mentality" or "pot craze". Those of us who live in this state shake our heads at just how silly that sounds. Other than (1) sometimes catching a small whiff of smoke while out in public (which is far less as obnoxious as cigarette smoke), or (2) seeing a weed store here and there literally every other shop in a strip mall, which really are unobtrusive fucking annoying, or (3) hearing somenon stop conversation about it from time to time the latest MJ food product, oil, incense or snake oil, there's nothing that's changed. Nothing different. If someone can't handle that, then yeah maybe they shouldn't be here. Or anywhere in public in a large city for that matter. I disagree completely. 100% flat out disagree. I guess things are different in the Greeley/ Northern Colorado area but Pueblo, Colorado Springs and other mid-state areas are absolutely flooded with pot shops and Pot tourism. Douglas County and Castle Rock do not allow pot stores. I lived in Colorado for 17 years, 14 of which were in Castle Rock. Yet arfcom would shit if they banned gun stores. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:22:22 PM EDT
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11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Y/N Which is funny because the way that is worded you can add cigarette smokers, coffee and booze drinkers to that list.. Is it lawful to use cigarettes, coffee and booze? Look up the legal definition of "or" , re read 11.e and get back to me. Where the or is placed and the legal definition of or it is saying marajuana OR any depressant, stimulant etc. It is separate criteria not inclusive. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:27:37 PM EDT
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Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. Oh those poor babies. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:37:49 PM EDT
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Look up the legal definition of "or" , re read 11.e and get back to me. Where the or is placed and the legal definition of or it is saying marajuana OR any depressant, stimulant etc. It is separate criteria not inclusive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Y/N Which is funny because the way that is worded you can add cigarette smokers, coffee and booze drinkers to that list.. Is it lawful to use cigarettes, coffee and booze? Look up the legal definition of "or" , re read 11.e and get back to me. Where the or is placed and the legal definition of or it is saying marajuana OR any depressant, stimulant etc. It is separate criteria not inclusive. federal form = federal definition of whether marijuana is legal (not locally whether it is illegal) the crux of the argument isn't the word "or" it's the "or any OTHER controlled substance" part of the question, since marijuana is a controlled substance. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:39:15 PM EDT
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11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Y/N Which is funny because the way that is worded you can add cigarette smokers, coffee and booze drinkers to that list.. Is it lawful to use cigarettes, coffee and booze? Look up the legal definition of "or" , re read 11.e and get back to me. Where the or is placed and the legal definition of or it is saying marajuana OR any depressant, stimulant etc. It is separate criteria not inclusive. federal form = federal definition of whether marijuana is legal (not locally whether it is illegal) No one is arguing that. We are taking about cigarettes and coffee and alcohol. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:43:56 PM EDT
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No one is arguing that. We are taking about cigarettes and coffee and alcohol. again, congratulations on completely failing to understand that "depressant(s), stimulant(s), etc" only apply in the concentrations in which they are ON the controlled substances list.. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:48:21 PM EDT
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again, congratulations on completely failing to understand that "depressant(s), stimulant(s), etc" only apply in the concentrations in which they are ON the controlled substances list.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No one is arguing that. We are taking about cigarettes and coffee and alcohol. again, congratulations on completely failing to understand that "depressant(s), stimulant(s), etc" only apply in the concentrations in which they are ON the controlled substances list.. Revert to my previous posting. Read the legal definition of "or" then re read 11.e. It is stating 2 different criteria. The way it is worded legally the stimulants, depressants etc. Is a completely different set from marajuana and controlled substances. I know what you are saying but from a legal perspective and their placement of the word "or" completely changes the sentence. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 2:56:04 PM EDT
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Revert to my previous posting. Read the legal definition of "or" then re read 11.e. It is stating 2 different criteria. The way it is worded legally the stimulants, depressants etc. Is a completely different set from marajuana and controlled substances. I know what you are saying but from a legal perspective and their placement of the word "or" completely changes the sentence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No one is arguing that. We are taking about cigarettes and coffee and alcohol. again, congratulations on completely failing to understand that "depressant(s), stimulant(s), etc" only apply in the concentrations in which they are ON the controlled substances list.. Revert to my previous posting. Read the legal definition of "or" then re read 11.e. It is stating 2 different criteria. The way it is worded legally the stimulants, depressants etc. Is a completely different set from marajuana and controlled substances. I know what you are saying but from a legal perspective and their placement of the word "or" completely changes the sentence. look. I understand that, you're for some reason under the impression that if CO says it's ok to smoke/buy/sell marijuana then it's somehow NO LONGER on the Federal Controlled Substances registry. which of course is completely WRONG in every way. you are EXACTLY like Bill Clinton, arguing about the definition of an insignificant conjunction used to form the question on the 4473. no one who currently uses marijuana can truthfully answer that question NO, even if they have a medical prescription for marijuana. let me help you out, curbside.. 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Y/N |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 3:09:22 PM EDT
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Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. What? 
So you're saying legalizing one thing caused some people to come to CO from other parts of the country to commit crimes that they could have committed in their own states, so they could then illegally bring the proceeds of those crimes back to their state to illegally profit from? And you're for some reason thinking this is related to legalization? Can you explain your reasoning? Maybe draw a picture? How does legalizing marijuana cause more people to do heroin?
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Posted: 6/28/2016 3:21:38 PM EDT
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look. I understand that, you're for some reason under the impression that if CO says it's ok to smoke/buy/sell marijuana then it's somehow NO LONGER on the Federal Controlled Substances registry. which of course is completely WRONG in every way. you are EXACTLY like Bill Clinton, arguing about the definition of an insignificant conjunction used to form the question on the 4473. no one who currently uses marijuana can truthfully answer that question NO, even if they have a medical prescription for marijuana. let me help you out, curbside.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No one is arguing that. We are taking about cigarettes and coffee and alcohol. again, congratulations on completely failing to understand that "depressant(s), stimulant(s), etc" only apply in the concentrations in which they are ON the controlled substances list.. Revert to my previous posting. Read the legal definition of "or" then re read 11.e. It is stating 2 different criteria. The way it is worded legally the stimulants, depressants etc. Is a completely different set from marajuana and controlled substances. I know what you are saying but from a legal perspective and their placement of the word "or" completely changes the sentence. look. I understand that, you're for some reason under the impression that if CO says it's ok to smoke/buy/sell marijuana then it's somehow NO LONGER on the Federal Controlled Substances registry. which of course is completely WRONG in every way. you are EXACTLY like Bill Clinton, arguing about the definition of an insignificant conjunction used to form the question on the 4473. no one who currently uses marijuana can truthfully answer that question NO, even if they have a medical prescription for marijuana. let me help you out, curbside.. 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Y/N Not sure if trolling or intentionally being tarded'. the conversation I was having with the other gentlemen before you interjected yourself had nothing to do with marajuana. At all. I will attempt to break it down one more time. I was saying based on the way that 11.e is worded it would also cover cigarettes ( nicotine) and coffee/soda (caffeine ). The two most addictive stimulants on earth. Yes I know that isn't the intent of the question but the way it is worded it would cover them based on the legal definition of "or" and where "or" is placed within that sentence. Based on ththe legal definition of " or " it is asking the following 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana? or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug? or any other controlled substance? Y/N? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 3:35:17 PM EDT
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After reading this thread. I'm still convinced IQ tests should be given before buying a firearm, but seeing as that would disqualify many here from owning firearms, we know that'll never happen.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 3:41:21 PM EDT
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Not sure if trolling or intentionally being tarded'. the conversation I was having with the other gentlemen before you interjected yourself had nothing to do with marajuana. At all. I will attempt to break it down one more time. I was saying based on the way that 11.e is worded it would also cover cigarettes ( nicotine) and coffee/soda (caffeine ). The two most addictive stimulants on earth. Yes I know that isn't the intent of the question but the way it is worded it would cover them based on the legal definition of "or" and where "or" is placed within that sentence. Based on ththe legal definition of " or " it is asking the following 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana? or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug? or any other controlled substance? Y/N? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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look. I understand that, you're for some reason under the impression that if CO says it's ok to smoke/buy/sell marijuana then it's somehow NO LONGER on the Federal Controlled Substances registry. which of course is completely WRONG in every way. you are EXACTLY like Bill Clinton, arguing about the definition of an insignificant conjunction used to form the question on the 4473. no one who currently uses marijuana can truthfully answer that question NO, even if they have a medical prescription for marijuana. let me help you out, curbside.. 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Y/N Not sure if trolling or intentionally being tarded'. the conversation I was having with the other gentlemen before you interjected yourself had nothing to do with marajuana. At all. I will attempt to break it down one more time. I was saying based on the way that 11.e is worded it would also cover cigarettes ( nicotine) and coffee/soda (caffeine ). The two most addictive stimulants on earth. Yes I know that isn't the intent of the question but the way it is worded it would cover them based on the legal definition of "or" and where "or" is placed within that sentence. Based on ththe legal definition of " or " it is asking the following 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana? or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug? or any other controlled substance? Y/N? OK, So you completely ignored my response that all of those items exist ONLY IN SPECIFIED CONCENTRATIONS on the controlled substance registry. I think this is why you're having to continue your argument; You don't (can't?) read and can't (aren't capable of?) understand the law or the question. maybe you should have someone explain it to you when you purchase your next new firearm. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 3:43:00 PM EDT
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ITT, the statists out themselves. It's glorious. no - you did't read or comprehend. the OP is in Law Enforcement. knowingly, or have a reasonable belief, that he would be breaking the law would cost him his career or worse. I don't care if you want to smoke pot. I don't care for it or tobacco and would hope you would not do either around me. however, the ATF will love you tenderly - it is still illegal at the federal level. nothing statist about anything. fix the laws and everyone will be happy. No they won't. No one cares. Sounds like a reasonable defense. 
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Posted: 6/28/2016 3:44:48 PM EDT
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Fuck the federal government and their bullshit rules. Just sayin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trying, but not really trying, to sell or trade a Battle Flag Colt Competition AR... One of those, if it goes for my price, great, if not, oh well. I tossed it up on one of the last remaining Buy/Sell/Trade groups on the ol' Facebook. I got one offer/message so far... Dude started the discussion with, "Hey man, totally interested in that sick AR. I'm a glass blower and would gladly trade some of my work for it. I also have a 9MM STI 1911 I'd trade with a piece of my work." With his first message he produced 5 pictures of the most ridiculous bongs I have ever seen. With the last one he included, "This is the one I use. It hits hard. I could make another one just like it if you're interested." I hate that Colorado has gone down this path.... Op is correct, also once again... ...Reading is FUNDAMENTAL. Just sayin. Once again, sounds like a reasonable defense. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 5:00:53 PM EDT
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Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. Sounds like you live in a really shitty part of CO that I've never seen. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 5:09:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. Low level marijuana offenses are down 98% resulting in tens of millions in saved revenue from law enforcement to trial/convictions to housing offenders. The total cost used to be $1,000 - 2,000 per marijuana arrest. Drug and violent crimes are down, not up. Illegal marijuana volume has decreased tremendously as prices have plummeted. Recreational marijuana can be purchased for $100 an ounce. Youth marijuana use has seen no change or has decreased depending on the age groups. None have gone up. A quick glimpse at Colorado seems to show much the same. Perhaps your town was just a shit hole to begin with and marijuana had nothing to do with it? Seems to make more sense to me. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 6:48:22 PM EDT
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"Rocky Mountain Hiiiiiigggggghhhhh Colorado!"
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Posted: 6/28/2016 6:49:01 PM EDT
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Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. I'm calling bs on your claims, unless you can post facts about this shit hole town you live in, wherever it is. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 7:43:34 PM EDT
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Well, OP, you could always move to a less free state.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:19:18 PM EDT
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It's done wonders for my property value... I don't associate with morons, I know plenty if gun loving conservative intelligent dopers that are productive members of society and aren't trying to control what anyone else does. That guy has clearly smoked himself retarded if he thinks you would trade for some of his "work"
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:40:32 PM EDT
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I'm calling bs on your claims, unless you can post facts about this shit hole town you live in, wherever it is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. I'm calling bs on your claims, unless you can post facts about this shit hole town you live in, wherever it is. Googles are your friend, bro. Have a look... http://www.denverpost.com/2016/04/26/three-busts-net-nearly-1-million-in-pot-at-pueblo-west/ http://www.krdo.com/news/heroin-use-creates-ripple-effect-in-pueblo/36489302 My neighbor is a PD narc officer and he says their main shift is to heroin and cocaine in the city. The county is dealing more with the illegal weed grows. But I, sure he's full of shit ya know... |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:46:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CO.....The EU of the US. I don't think there is another state where libtards from other states came in and took it over so fast and so completely. Sad. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:47:28 PM EDT
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Googles are your friend, bro. Have a look... http://www.denverpost.com/2016/04/26/three-busts-net-nearly-1-million-in-pot-at-pueblo-west/ http://www.krdo.com/news/heroin-use-creates-ripple-effect-in-pueblo/36489302 My neighbor is a PD narc officer and he says their main shift is to heroin and cocaine in the city. The county is dealing more with the illegal weed grows. But I, sure he's full of shit ya know... Pueblo sucked before legalization, it's a given that it would suck afterwards. This isn't news. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:52:28 PM EDT
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Googles are your friend, bro. Have a look... http://www.denverpost.com/2016/04/26/three-busts-net-nearly-1-million-in-pot-at-pueblo-west/ http://www.krdo.com/news/heroin-use-creates-ripple-effect-in-pueblo/36489302 My neighbor is a PD narc officer and he says their main shift is to heroin and cocaine in the city. The county is dealing more with the illegal weed grows. But I, sure he's full of shit ya know... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. I'm calling bs on your claims, unless you can post facts about this shit hole town you live in, wherever it is. Googles are your friend, bro. Have a look... http://www.denverpost.com/2016/04/26/three-busts-net-nearly-1-million-in-pot-at-pueblo-west/ http://www.krdo.com/news/heroin-use-creates-ripple-effect-in-pueblo/36489302 My neighbor is a PD narc officer and he says their main shift is to heroin and cocaine in the city. The county is dealing more with the illegal weed grows. But I, sure he's full of shit ya know... do you have a link to any of the big busts from out-of-staters that you mentioned? 5 in the last month? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:54:33 PM EDT
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Googles are your friend, bro. Have a look... http://www.denverpost.com/2016/04/26/three-busts-net-nearly-1-million-in-pot-at-pueblo-west/ http://www.krdo.com/news/heroin-use-creates-ripple-effect-in-pueblo/36489302 My neighbor is a PD narc officer and he says their main shift is to heroin and cocaine in the city. The county is dealing more with the illegal weed grows. But I, sure he's full of shit ya know... Pueblo sucked before legalization, it's a given that it would suck afterwards. This isn't news. Wow, what a riveting revelation.... It's kinda what I've been saying in this thread  .
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:57:11 PM EDT
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More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. I'm calling bs on your claims, unless you can post facts about this shit hole town you live in, wherever it is. Googles are your friend, bro. Have a look... http://www.denverpost.com/2016/04/26/three-busts-net-nearly-1-million-in-pot-at-pueblo-west/ http://www.krdo.com/news/heroin-use-creates-ripple-effect-in-pueblo/36489302 My neighbor is a PD narc officer and he says their main shift is to heroin and cocaine in the city. The county is dealing more with the illegal weed grows. But I, sure he's full of shit ya know... do you have a link to any of the big busts from out-of-staters that you mentioned? 5 in the last month? I'll dig some up, but I'm boarding a plane in a few... One of the recent busts was 3 or 4 Floridians... |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:00:58 PM EDT
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Say no and move on. Not a big deal...
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Posted: 6/28/2016 10:02:06 PM EDT
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Sounds better than most of the retard tire kickers I get whenever I try to sell something on Craigslist.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 11:47:39 PM EDT
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Not sure if trolling or intentionally being tarded'. the conversation I was having with the other gentlemen before you interjected yourself had nothing to do with marajuana. At all. I will attempt to break it down one more time. I was saying based on the way that 11.e is worded it would also cover cigarettes ( nicotine) and coffee/soda (caffeine ). The two most addictive stimulants on earth. Yes I know that isn't the intent of the question but the way it is worded it would cover them based on the legal definition of "or" and where "or" is placed within that sentence. Based on ththe legal definition of " or " it is asking the following 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana? or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug? or any other controlled substance? Y/N? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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again, congratulations on completely failing to understand that "depressant(s), stimulant(s), etc" only apply in the concentrations in which they are ON the controlled substances list.. Revert to my previous posting. Read the legal definition of "or" then re read 11.e. It is stating 2 different criteria. The way it is worded legally the stimulants, depressants etc. Is a completely different set from marajuana and controlled substances. I know what you are saying but from a legal perspective and their placement of the word "or" completely changes the sentence. look. I understand that, you're for some reason under the impression that if CO says it's ok to smoke/buy/sell marijuana then it's somehow NO LONGER on the Federal Controlled Substances registry. which of course is completely WRONG in every way. you are EXACTLY like Bill Clinton, arguing about the definition of an insignificant conjunction used to form the question on the 4473. no one who currently uses marijuana can truthfully answer that question NO, even if they have a medical prescription for marijuana. let me help you out, curbside.. 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Y/N Not sure if trolling or intentionally being tarded'. the conversation I was having with the other gentlemen before you interjected yourself had nothing to do with marajuana. At all. I will attempt to break it down one more time. I was saying based on the way that 11.e is worded it would also cover cigarettes ( nicotine) and coffee/soda (caffeine ). The two most addictive stimulants on earth. Yes I know that isn't the intent of the question but the way it is worded it would cover them based on the legal definition of "or" and where "or" is placed within that sentence. Based on ththe legal definition of " or " it is asking the following 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana? or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug? or any other controlled substance? Y/N? You nailed it. That is exactly what it says. "They" all want to squeal, "but, but, but... You've gored my ox!" Love the .gov overreach. 
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Posted: 6/29/2016 12:26:27 AM EDT
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Washington has seen over 100 million dollars in increased tax revenue that has gone to drug programs. Low level marijuana offenses are down 98% resulting in tens of millions in saved revenue from law enforcement to trial/convictions to housing offenders. The total cost used to be $1,000 - 2,000 per marijuana arrest. Drug and violent crimes are down, not up. Illegal marijuana volume has decreased tremendously as prices have plummeted. Recreational marijuana can be purchased for $100 an ounce. Youth marijuana use has seen no change or has decreased depending on the age groups. None have gone up. A quick glimpse at Colorado seems to show much the same. Perhaps your town was just a shit hole to begin with and marijuana had nothing to do with it? Seems to make more sense to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. Washington has seen over 100 million dollars in increased tax revenue that has gone to drug programs. Low level marijuana offenses are down 98% resulting in tens of millions in saved revenue from law enforcement to trial/convictions to housing offenders. The total cost used to be $1,000 - 2,000 per marijuana arrest. Drug and violent crimes are down, not up. Illegal marijuana volume has decreased tremendously as prices have plummeted. Recreational marijuana can be purchased for $100 an ounce. Youth marijuana use has seen no change or has decreased depending on the age groups. None have gone up. A quick glimpse at Colorado seems to show much the same. Perhaps your town was just a shit hole to begin with and marijuana had nothing to do with it? Seems to make more sense to me. And......they still wanna jack our taxes even more.....No, the retards are the ones giving the state gov control of something they should have never had control of. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 12:44:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2016 1:01:27 AM EDT
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Too all you naysayers and free trade fools, see the part in red. Op is correct, also once again... ...Reading is FUNDAMENTAL. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trying, but not really trying, to sell or trade a Battle Flag Colt Competition AR... One of those, if it goes for my price, great, if not, oh well. I tossed it up on one of the last remaining Buy/Sell/Trade groups on the ol' Facebook. I got one offer/message so far... Dude started the discussion with, "Hey man, totally interested in that sick AR. I'm a glass blower and would gladly trade some of my work for it. I also have a 9MM STI 1911 I'd trade with a piece of my work." With his first message he produced 5 pictures of the most ridiculous bongs I have ever seen. With the last one he included, "This is the one I use. It hits hard. I could make another one just like it if you're interested." I hate that Colorado has gone down this path.... Op is correct, also once again... ...Reading is FUNDAMENTAL. Roflocopter |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 1:11:10 AM EDT
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Anyone asking me to trade would probably annoy me. If only their was a way to let me know you don't accept trades and take cash only....... |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 1:25:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Legally you can't sell to him anyway as he just admitted to being a prohibited person. I guess I missed the part where he said his pipes were for dope. Hell, they could be for kinicinic or tobacco for all you know. Until the guy admits to using illegal substances...you only assume he's a prohibited person. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 1:26:11 AM EDT
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I was being slightly hyperbolic, but I would love to see the actual statistics. Like I said, the only people I know that don't smoke do so only because they could get fired. I'm a a weirdo in that even before I was getting piss tested, I didn't smoke. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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............... Is there really that much of a burden on the seller? To be honest, the odds of a buyer being a user of weed is are probably in the 99% percent range here, and I've never heard anyone getting burned for selling to one. 99% of the people in Washington smoke marijuana!!??  In my city? Probably 
ETA: The only people I know that don't, don't because their job has piss tests. That right there is just fucking scary. I was being slightly hyperbolic, but I would love to see the actual statistics. Like I said, the only people I know that don't smoke do so only because they could get fired. I'm a a weirdo in that even before I was getting piss tested, I didn't smoke. But you're smoking in your avatar! |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 1:30:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Too all you naysayers and free trade fools, see the part in red. Op is correct, also once again... ...Reading is FUNDAMENTAL. Quote HistoryQuoted: Too all you naysayers and free trade fools, see the part in red. Quoted: Trying, but not really trying, to sell or trade a Battle Flag Colt Competition AR... One of those, if it goes for my price, great, if not, oh well. I tossed it up on one of the last remaining Buy/Sell/Trade groups on the ol' Facebook. I got one offer/message so far... Dude started the discussion with, "Hey man, totally interested in that sick AR. I'm a glass blower and would gladly trade some of my work for it. I also have a 9MM STI 1911 I'd trade with a piece of my work." With his first message he produced 5 pictures of the most ridiculous bongs I have ever seen. With the last one he included, "This is the one I use. It hits hard. I could make another one just like it if you're interested." I hate that Colorado has gone down this path.... Op is correct, also once again... ...Reading is FUNDAMENTAL. I'm still missing the part where the guy says he smokes pot in his pipe/bong. Not reading shit into an ambiguous statement is fairly fundamental too.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 1:34:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People dont smoke tobacco in glass pipes. Stop being dense Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So a man makes tobacco pipes and one of them hits harder than the others? I don't see the issue? Did he specifically say he was smoking something that would make him a prohibited person? People dont smoke tobacco in glass pipes. Stop being dense |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 1:50:59 AM EDT
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You mean a skilled tradesman offered you a legal product in exchange for a legal product. Yep, what has this world come to? no shit
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Posted: 6/29/2016 2:12:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What? So you're saying legalizing one thing caused some people to come to CO from other parts of the country to commit crimes that they could have committed in their own states, so they could then illegally bring the proceeds of those crimes back to their state to illegally profit from? And you're for some reason thinking this is related to legalization? Can you explain your reasoning? Maybe draw a picture? How does legalizing marijuana cause more people to do heroin? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: More tax money for schools/anti-drug programs. Less time wasted by law enforcement. Less money wasted in court on minor drug charges. Less money wastes housing criminals in prison on minor drug charges. Which leads to fewer individuals who become worse criminals after their prison stay. Who gives a fuck that you have to deal with one guy offering glass in trade? Fucking Nancy. Tell that to the local sheriff departments who spend all their time shutting down high volume illegal grows. People are moving here from other states, buying houses and gutting them and growing shit in them, then running the drugs back to their home state. There have been 5 huge busts in the last month here, and they were from Florida, Ohio, Illinois. Also, ask them about the increase in Heroin trafficking and overdoses. The gang shootings and arrests have gone full retard here. Drug dealers pushing harder drugs with the loss of weed profits. My town went from arm-pit to full blown shit hole in 3 years. What? So you're saying legalizing one thing caused some people to come to CO from other parts of the country to commit crimes that they could have committed in their own states, so they could then illegally bring the proceeds of those crimes back to their state to illegally profit from? And you're for some reason thinking this is related to legalization? Can you explain your reasoning? Maybe draw a picture? How does legalizing marijuana cause more people to do heroin? He sounds like those libtards in ban states that whine about how easy it is to get guns across state lines. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 2:12:50 AM EDT
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Did someone post stoplikingwhatidont.jpg yet? OP posts a gun for an inflated asking price and gets mad when someone offers him something he doesn't like. Comes here for more attention. Also, this thread belongs in EE. Inflated asking price...? Did I put the price on here anywhere....? |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 2:31:38 AM EDT
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I have some vacation time to burn up. Checking flight prices to CO right now.
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Posted: 6/29/2016 2:37:52 AM EDT
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OP: I feel your pain.
Weed does a great job of making dumb people dumber by the day. I've been watching it happen to friends and family for 40 years now. I've also watched people die from smoking it. I hope slowly choking to death from emphysema was worth the high. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 7:32:39 AM EDT
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OP: I feel your pain. Weed does a great job of making dumb people dumber by the day. I've been watching it happen to friends and family for 40 years now. I've also watched people die from smoking it. I hope slowly choking to death from emphysema was worth the high. I work with brilliant multi-millionaires who smoke like chimneys, don't drink alchohol & are in great shape. Next! |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:12:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Legally you can't sell to him anyway as he just admitted to being a prohibited person. A beautiful Federal Government with retarded laws, and retarded enforcement officers to try to entrap innocent individuals ignorant of their archaic laws. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:35:59 AM EDT
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Not sure if trolling or intentionally being tarded'. the conversation I was having with the other gentlemen before you interjected yourself had nothing to do with marajuana. At all. I will attempt to break it down one more time. I was saying based on the way that 11.e is worded it would also cover cigarettes ( nicotine) and coffee/soda (caffeine ). The two most addictive stimulants on earth. Yes I know that isn't the intent of the question but the way it is worded it would cover them based on the legal definition of "or" and where "or" is placed within that sentence. Based on ththe legal definition of " or " it is asking the following 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana? or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug? or any other controlled substance? Y/N? The operative word is "controlled". 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, the controlled substance marijuana? or any controlled depressant, controlled stimulant, controlled narcotic drug? or any other controlled substance? "Any other" means that all the other items in the list are controlled. |
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Posted: 6/29/2016 8:39:57 AM EDT
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"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
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