Bought a 2004 SR5 V6 in 2009 with 120k miles for $10k.

Just sold it 3 weeks ago for $5k with 200k miles.

6 years, 80k miles.  other than tires and belts, the only 2 parts I changed were the radiator(being in the rust belt) and water pump.  there was nothing wrong with the WP, but I did anyway while replacing the radiator and we had a 2000 mile road trip coming up.

it still had the same set of brake pads when we bought it.

I could have sold it for bit more if my wife didn't ran it into a safety pole at her work's parking garage messing up the whole right side of the front bumper and mirror.

I got a 2016 Tundra TRD off road CM a week ago. Looked at a 4 runner it was the same price, went with the tundra instead, both were 4 wheel drive. The tundra is Inferno Orange...

Look up the FJ Cruiser coil lift.

That is perfect, btw.  Mom has had Gens 1, 2, 3, and 5, while I have had gen 4.  Love 4Runners, love them even more when they look minimalistically practical.

 

I don't know how much "invoice" is. How much was it in dollars?

This is what I bought for mine....but at the time it was my DD and wouldn't fit in my work garge  33" Duratracs, ICON's all around....Camburg uppers...

 

Used Toyotas and Hondas are overpriced.

New Toyotas and Hondas are overpriced.

In 2014 I was considering buying a new FJ Cruiser and selling my 2008 FJC afterwards.  I went to the dealer and saw the 2014 trail 4-runner.  I had a 1992 4Runner that I bought new, kept it 11 years and was happy with everything about it except the engine power.  I don't know why I never considered one until I got on the dealers lot.



I test drove the FJC and then the 4Runner.  The 4Runner was much nicer to drive, had more room, and has more creature comforts. It is the perfect trip vehicle for the family so I bought it instead of a new FJC.

Sexy. I have the Toytec 3" lift.

I still fit in the garage, but can't put a roof rack on it and still fit

Unless you get ripped off.

Exactly.

Love my 14.  3" lift, 33" tires and a winch bumper. Only wish it could tow a little more but overall very happy.

Lol, my father has a '15 7 series BMW that listed at $87, bought at $73.  He got the itch to look into the Z4 and inquired about the trade in....$42k and he has 7k miles.  This is a dealership + salesman that he's dealt with many times in the past so they weren't just trying to fuck him.  They gave him that 7 series b/c his 525ci was lemon'ed for an uncorrectable shake/vibration at highway speeds.  I love the looks of BMW's but not the owner cost after warranty nor the resale.

Toyota's are generally expensive, especially the Tundra, 4runner, Tacoma models.  You make that up in reliability and resale.  I used to have an '05 Explorer.  Loved the thing.  Maintained it, cleaned it, babied it, etc.  I loved it right up until 98k-ish when little things started to fail and I was throwing money into a vehicle with low resale.

I don't worry about these things with my '08 Tundra.  78k and I might keep it forever....unless I get rid of it for a crewmax.  Amazing truck.

Actually sort of true.  The reliable part is the key factor though.

Then either get 0% or 0.9%

Ha, even so....

I'll finish up my burst of post saying that Toyota isn't without it's warts.  The bed rust issue on Tacomas and Tundras being the first thing that comes to mind.  However, compared to other similar vehicles made by ____, they more than maintain their value.  This is plainly evident by people saying/bitching that a used vehicle is only a little cheaper than a new one.  We've all heard the saying that as soon as you drive of a lot, your vehicle loses XXXXXXX amount of value.  With Toyota that doesn't seem to be the case.

Agreed.  I hate owing that kind of money too.....but if you're going to do it, that's the way to do it!

The problem with saying they are over priced is what you are comparing, off road capable SUVs.  My wife loves her Honda Pilot and it has been an awesome vehicle, but it won't get me where I need to go AND out again.  

I want a 4Runner so bad.

I see tons of these around lately and they are all that sand brown color..yuk

Sand Brown Pro is master race.

Cower, unworthy infidel!

I have a 99 SR5. They have always been pricey. I have the sticker, and it  was $36k. I have had  it since '00.

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I've been in the market for a 4Runner for a while now.  I've driven the Trail Premium and the Limited and liked both though I thought the Limited was more and had a nicer ride.  Kinda want to drive the TRD Pro version before pulling the trigger.  Anyone have insight on pros/cons of Trail Premium vs. TRD Pro?

Same vehicle except the PRO has no sunroof or KDSS.

3 years and 36k miles.  My girl has an escape that just rolled past its warranty and stuff is breaking fast.  



My 04 Tundra is still original with no problems.  Do need to get the 100k work done soon thou.



 

My daily driver is a 1984 (yes, you read correct) that I bought used in 1985.  It was still under warrenty & I paid $10,000.00.  I thought that was too much, but I wanted it, so I paid the price.

It is in pretty rough shape now, but most of it still works.  I use a suction cup to hold the drivers side window up.  The window regulator is shot.  The heater barely works & I only have one windshield wiper.  Luckily it is the driver's side wiper.  I have lost track of all of the replacement parts.  Although I did just recently replace the brake master cylinder.  The original one, believe it or not.

I also replaced the engine a few years ago.  The original 4 cylinder was getting pretty tired & was always very underpowered.  It now has a Chevy 4.3 TBI.  Several years before the engine I put in lockers, 4.88 gears & a 3" lift.  It will go most any place that I want & the body looks like it has been most any place.  Lots of dents from sliding around trees & such.

I have read here that they hold their value & you can get your money back at resale.  I am not sure if that works for all of them.  I don't think that I could ever get my money back if I was to ever sell this one.

Just a few more years & it will be 35 years old.  Then I will not have to get my friend to give me a "wink, wink" safety inspection.  They are not required when a vehicle reaches 35 years old.

more than double the price

Would buy a 70 series tonight if still imported.

Love looking at them on the Australian site.

The Japs make great stuff

That's a good price. What condition was it in? Pic?

I bought a new 2016 Limited a few months ago. The dealer I bought it from had an identical 2013 Limited with 36,000 miles on the lot. It was purchased new from them, and had all service done by the dealer.  They wanted only $4,000 less for the 2013, which made the decision to buy new easy.

It's insane.

Pretty good shape. Some rust underneath, but the main rails are pretty good. Has some scratched in the paint that show up inside 5ft, but we only plan to keep it a couple years before upgrading to a 5th gen.

Interior is in great shape except the rear seat fold down arm rest was broke, had to be from kids horsing around, might be fixable.

market demand

Something to consider -- the 4Runner has fantastic reliability but if you are concerned about safety,  I would look elsewhere.

I drive an XC90.  Yes it isn't 4WD and yes it's a Volvo so it isn't quite as reliable as a Toyota, but it's built like a fucking tank.  It rules the IIHS' "Small Frontal Overlap" crash test, while the 4Runner has a pretty good risk for driver injuries.  A few comparison photos:


(As a side note, this specific crash test was introduced in...2009?  Lots of manufactures, including Toyota, abysmally failed it and had to redesign to try and pass.  The XC90 didn't have that problem, aced the test, and got the same highest rating applied to all their model years back to 2003 since the safety cage was the same for all those years)


2014 XC90 Small Frontal Overlap crash test photo (with a rating of "Good" -- highest rating):
"The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained very well."



"Intrusion into the driver's space was minimal, and risk of injuries to the dummy's legs and feet was low."



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And for comparison, here's Arfcom's beloved 4Runner (2015) in the same test...(with a rating of "Marginal" -- 2nd lowest rating):
"The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was not maintained well."



"Door hinge pillar and instrument panel intrusion was extensive and contributed to a moderate risk of injuries to both lower legs."

I had an '02, bought it used in '05 with 39k for about $22K...loved it traded it in 06/2014 @ 145K...zero problems with it.

Just started looking again at 4Runners.

Local shop took one in trade the day I was on the lot a '14 , 18K miles, full leather, 2" lift, new duratracks, trendy KMC wheels, tint , had the orig window sticker in the glove box brand new off the lot 38.1K , they said it was about to be about 41K once they got it cleaned ..Nope

I've purchased and maintained 10 cars for my family over the years.   Two 4Runners have been the most reliable, hands down.   Several comments have been made about Toyotas being overpriced, but my time is definitely worth the reliability premium on a 4Runner.   Our current 2006 is a daily driver with 150k miles.

We don't want safe and boring

Listen bro,  just don't skip leg days and you'll be fine

Had 02 and 04. Friends have had 08 and 09. Sis has a 13. Got the wife a 16 limited. Can't say that I've ever been disappointed in Toyota.

My last vehicle was a fj cruiser, needed something bigger and have a tundra crewmax limited now.

Some things are actually worth it. The 4Runner is one.

Is it too expensive? Yes, but terrible quality vehicles are also overpriced in an equal proportion. Might as well buy quality.

How about the crash test now


Love my 4runner. 03 v8 4x4 limited. Bout it in 08 with 107k for 14k and now has 140k on the clock. No problems to date.

I love my 2014 Trail Premium. Bought it new and never a second of buyers remorse.

The term "overpriced" is bandied about by people who have never bought, driven and/or sold a T4R.

It's not a cult following without basis in fact.  It is a cult following for good reason.

In 2013, I bought a 2006 with 115k miles for 16k$  It looked and drove like new.

Today, it has 161k miles-- it looks and drives like new.  My twin sons will take it over in 18 months when they get their licenses; I'm not sure what I will buy.  Maybe another T4R.

I will shoot for a minimum of 300k miles.  

Basically there is no way to beat the car "game," unless you stumble across one of the few exceptions.  T4R is an exception.

Have you had the timing belt done at all? If not your about 6 years past due.

V8 Limited 4x4 is going to be the starting point for my next offroad truck.

If people think the 4runners are spendy, try finding a decent 4x4 Tacoma.

Just bought a new, 2016 base model (SR5).  
Best time to buy seemed to be around May when there was a sale.  I bought mine a few months prior and Toyota still had a $500 discount off the purchase price.  
Only options I ordered were the reverse proximity sensors and the extended 7-year warranty.  


They tried to sell me the sealant, undercoating, tinted windows etc but it seemed redundant.   The truck already comes with factory rust proofing and there must be some factory sealant already on the stock paint as I have not had to polish or wax the paint and I have already racked up 1,550 miles.  I keep her covered with an Evolution 4 car cover purchased from autoanything.com.      Got her tinted at a reputable shop.  Ordered floor mats from Weathertech.com.

These things get a lot of respect in Hawaii.  They are very popular and there are even a few first generation 4Runners with the removable rear roof and stock roll bar driving around.  

Very satisfied as even the base model is loaded to the gills with goodies.  Too much to list.   If you choose black, at least for the 2016 model year, you may be pleasantly surprised to find it is a fancy black with multicolored flakes in the paint.  Toyota did not charge me extra for this paint.  

All four windows including the rear hatch glass have "One touch" down and "One touch" up capability.  Press the button once and release and the window will roll all the way down or roll all the way up.  Keyless remote entry with panic alarm is included.

Rear view camera is standard equipment along with hands free phone calls capability, you can also hear incoming text messages being read aloud to you, standard cruise control, alloy wheels, split/foldable rear seats to increase cargo storage space.   There is even a rear hatch wiper hidden away under the rear spoiler.

There is standard theater lighting (interior lights), and when you lift the rear hatch there are two stereo speakers in the hatch itself along with two interior lights.  Hatch acts as a roof to shield you from the rain if you are at the beach and the stereo speakers in the hatch are perfect for listening to music.  The two interior hatch lghts illuminate the ground.

One of the best features is that the rear hatch window rolls down.  This may not seem like a big deal but if you dont have enough room to raise the rear hatch (low ceiling), you can still get items from the rear cargo area by placing the key into the rear hatch exterior keyhole and turning it to the left.  The glass rolls down.


Also, 4Runners use a truck frame versus a car frame.  

Base SR5 models have rear wheel drive.

Base SR5 models also come with a skid plate.


Cons: No LED headlights
         Transmission is the older, five speed versus the 6-Speed found on the RAV-4
          Steering is hydraulic versus the adjustable, computerized electronic steering on the RAV-4
          Runningboards seems to be thin, cheap plastic that scratch easily

You start asking yourself how badly you need 4x4.

Buy once, cry once.