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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:47:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:50:47 PM EDT
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Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. Not if you value your account here. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:51:22 PM EDT
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Let it burn. Pain is a great educator.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:52:27 PM EDT
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Just another reminder of how important the 2016 election will be in terms of SCOTUS appointments. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:52:28 PM EDT
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It is what happens when the 2nd amendment is done with. The first is next.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:54:02 PM EDT
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Didn't the feds recently talk about the same thing? http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/10/us-attorney-general-we-may-prosecute-climate-change-deniers/ |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:55:03 PM EDT
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Not if you value your account here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. Not if you value your account here. I don't see why not, it's OK to support running a car off the road and causing bodily harm to the occupants. May as well discuss what you want to discuss. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:57:00 PM EDT
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Landmark California bill would allow prosecution of climate-change skeptics A landmark California bill gaining steam would make it illegal to engage in climate-change dissent, clearing the way for lawsuits against fossil-fuel companies, think-tanks and others that have “deceived or misled the public on the risks of climate change.”
The first-of-its-kind legislation — Senate Bill 1161, or the California Climate Science Truth and Accountability Act of 2016 — is scheduled for floor action Thursday after clearing Senate committees in April and May. The measure would allow state and local prosecutors to pursue claims against climate-change skepticism as a violation of the state’s Unfair Competition Law [UCL], as well as extend the four-year statute of limitations for such claims retroactively to Jan. 1, 2021. “This bill explicitly authorizes district attorneys and the Attorney General to pursue UCL claims alleging that a business or organization has directly or indirectly engaged in unfair competition with respect to scientific evidence regarding the existence, extent, or current or future impacts of anthropogenic induced climate change,” says the state Senate Rules Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. These assholes will think it's a great thing to force companies like Shell Oil to court and make them pay, all the way up until Shell's scientists force them to prove their global warming enviro hippie bullshit. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:57:33 PM EDT
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Anthropomorphic Climate Change as a risk to life and the environment on this planet is complete and utter bullshit.
Come try to prosecute me assholes. Try to take me from my home for a "thought crime" |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:57:40 PM EDT
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It is what happens when the 2nd amendment is done with. The first is next. My thoughts exactly. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:58:47 PM EDT
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Not if you value your account here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. Not if you value your account here. I did not mean for that statement to prompt COC violations when I said discussion I meant at a federal level. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:58:55 PM EDT
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Soon California will require a registry for all educated people, especially conservatives. You know, to promote diversity.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 5:59:59 PM EDT
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Now you see why we want Cali to break off into the ocean.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:02:36 PM EDT
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It is what happens when the 2nd amendment is done with. The first is next. The first thing I thought of. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:03:07 PM EDT
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Anthropomorphic Climate Change as a risk to life and the environment on this planet is complete and utter bullshit. Come try to prosecute me assholes. Try to take me from my home for a "thought crime" The law will be implemented retroactively and they plan to extradite. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:03:22 PM EDT
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My thoughts exactly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is what happens when the 2nd amendment is done with. The first is next. My thoughts exactly. No one is really using either. I like my comfort and life too much, we all do - we've been taking it in the rear for years and years now in exchange. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:03:23 PM EDT
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the 2nd is pretty much dead in CA, might as well start to kill off the 1st.
 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:03:26 PM EDT
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Religious nutjobs and their democrat theocracy.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:03:30 PM EDT
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I don't see why not, it's OK to support running a car off the road and causing bodily harm to the occupants. May as well discuss what you want to discuss. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. Not if you value your account here. I don't see why not, it's OK to support running a car off the road and causing bodily harm to the occupants. May as well discuss what you want to discuss. You know the answer to that question does not necessarily have to involve violence or any sort of illegal behavior. State has gone rogue? Elect officials at the federal level that have more respect for the people and then have those officials shut off the money spigot to that state until they reform. Look at the civil rights era for an example. They went so far as to send in armed troops. The federal government was able to make states do things that didn't want to do. Making them forget all about banning speech they don't like would not be difficult if you had the right people in charge. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:03:37 PM EDT
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Seems like they're really doing their part to strengthen case law.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:05:15 PM EDT
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Landmark California bill would allow prosecution of climate-change skeptics A landmark California bill gaining steam would make it illegal to engage in climate-change dissent, clearing the way for lawsuits against fossil-fuel companies, think-tanks and others that have “deceived or misled the public on the risks of climate change.”
The first-of-its-kind legislation — Senate Bill 1161, or the California Climate Science Truth and Accountability Act of 2016 — is scheduled for floor action Thursday after clearing Senate committees in April and May. The measure would allow state and local prosecutors to pursue claims against climate-change skepticism as a violation of the state’s Unfair Competition Law [UCL], as well as extend the four-year statute of limitations for such claims retroactively to Jan. 1, 2021. “This bill explicitly authorizes district attorneys and the Attorney General to pursue UCL claims alleging that a business or organization has directly or indirectly engaged in unfair competition with respect to scientific evidence regarding the existence, extent, or current or future impacts of anthropogenic induced climate change,” says the state Senate Rules Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. That can't possibly be true? It makes my brain hurt thinking a Gvt. body in America would pass something like that knowing it is completely unconstitutional. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:05:33 PM EDT
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Earthquake time, some people need a reality check.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:05:48 PM EDT
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Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses ou des hommes accredites ont tort.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:06:25 PM EDT
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That can't possibly be true? It makes my brain hurt thinking a Gvt. body in America would pass something like that knowing it is completely unconstitutional. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Landmark California bill would allow prosecution of climate-change skeptics A landmark California bill gaining steam would make it illegal to engage in climate-change dissent, clearing the way for lawsuits against fossil-fuel companies, think-tanks and others that have “deceived or misled the public on the risks of climate change.”
The first-of-its-kind legislation — Senate Bill 1161, or the California Climate Science Truth and Accountability Act of 2016 — is scheduled for floor action Thursday after clearing Senate committees in April and May. The measure would allow state and local prosecutors to pursue claims against climate-change skepticism as a violation of the state’s Unfair Competition Law [UCL], as well as extend the four-year statute of limitations for such claims retroactively to Jan. 1, 2021. “This bill explicitly authorizes district attorneys and the Attorney General to pursue UCL claims alleging that a business or organization has directly or indirectly engaged in unfair competition with respect to scientific evidence regarding the existence, extent, or current or future impacts of anthropogenic induced climate change,” says the state Senate Rules Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. That can't possibly be true? It makes my brain hurt thinking a Gvt. body in America would pass something like that knowing it is completely unconstitutional. You think Kali cares about the Constitution? 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:07:42 PM EDT
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Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses ou des hommes accredites ont tort. My latin is rusty, did you just say bend over? |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:10:33 PM EDT
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Lol at you guys thinking this means that they can prosecute those who deny climate change.
While this bill is obviously complete horse shit, it's also not what you guys claim it is. Reading is for faggots. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:11:00 PM EDT
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Here in California, the government knows best
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:12:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My latin is rusty, did you just say bend over? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses ou des hommes accredites ont tort. My latin is rusty, did you just say bend over? "It is dangerous to be right in matters when established men are wrong." |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:13:40 PM EDT
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I'm NOT a skeptic. I AM a Denier.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:14:12 PM EDT
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You know the answer to that question does not necessarily have to involve violence or any sort of illegal behavior. State has gone rogue? Elect officials at the federal level that have more respect for the people and then have those officials shut off the money spigot to that state until they reform. Look at the civil rights era for an example. They went so far as to send in armed troops. The federal government was able to make states do things that didn't want to do. Making them forget all about banning speech they don't like would not be difficult if you had the right people in charge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. Not if you value your account here. I don't see why not, it's OK to support running a car off the road and causing bodily harm to the occupants. May as well discuss what you want to discuss. You know the answer to that question does not necessarily have to involve violence or any sort of illegal behavior. State has gone rogue? Elect officials at the federal level that have more respect for the people and then have those officials shut off the money spigot to that state until they reform. Look at the civil rights era for an example. They went so far as to send in armed troops. The federal government was able to make states do things that didn't want to do. Making them forget all about banning speech they don't like would not be difficult if you had the right people in charge. The Senate and Presidency is, long-term, lost to the dense urban cores because they outnumber the rest of the country demographically, and that will only get worse as time goes on. With POTUS and the Senate both lost, SCOTUS is lost. The House is at risk, and state level governments in those states answer only to the big cities because of the same math. With SCOTUS lost, federal and state-level idiocy will be allowed to proceed and we have maybe a generation worth of time before people coming of voting age know nothing else and will reject actual Americanist liberty as strange, unsafe, and improper. We have been out-bred and occupied by our own federal and state level electoral mechanics and the society of our nation is now being forcibly terraformed around us. There is a very narrow window of time before the cultural consciousness of our nation acclimates to it and widely desires that condition to be maintained. The system people are claiming we need to use to fix this mess is the same system that has created the problem and allowed it to be made all but permanent. We can either accept that and decide how we want to face the problem, or keep blithely pretending that we as the shrinking numerical minority can somehow vote ourselves out of this hole. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:14:24 PM EDT
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How is that not protected speech?
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:14:31 PM EDT
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So, could we assume that because fossil fuel companies continue to exist, they are by definition denying the existence of global change cooling hottening climate.
It would then, there fore, be illegal for them to conduct business in the rouge state of California. Without any viable means of transportation, the economy of California would begin to shut down in 72 hours. With any luck, the majority of them would simply starve to death in place. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:15:39 PM EDT
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They already passed the substantive law. This bill appears to extend the statute of limitation for actions (don't know the Ca. Code well enough to know whether civil or criminal) brought against climate deniers by the AG or DAs.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:16:34 PM EDT
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Anthropomorphic Climate Change as a risk to life and the environment on this planet is complete and utter bullshit. Come try to prosecute me assholes. Try to take me from my home for a "thought crime" genic vice morphic, but I get where you're coming from. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:17:06 PM EDT
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I hope it passes , we need to deny rights to everyone and not just the 2 nd amendment .
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:17:36 PM EDT
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My latin is rusty, did you just say bend over? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses ou des hommes accredites ont tort. My latin is rusty, did you just say bend over? Your French must be rusty as well. 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:20:00 PM EDT
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You may only think thoughts that are approved by the State, Comrade
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That can't possibly be true? It makes my brain hurt thinking a Gvt. body in America would pass something like that knowing it is completely unconstitutional. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Landmark California bill would allow prosecution of climate-change skeptics A landmark California bill gaining steam would make it illegal to engage in climate-change dissent, clearing the way for lawsuits against fossil-fuel companies, think-tanks and others that have “deceived or misled the public on the risks of climate change.”
The first-of-its-kind legislation — Senate Bill 1161, or the California Climate Science Truth and Accountability Act of 2016 — is scheduled for floor action Thursday after clearing Senate committees in April and May. The measure would allow state and local prosecutors to pursue claims against climate-change skepticism as a violation of the state’s Unfair Competition Law [UCL], as well as extend the four-year statute of limitations for such claims retroactively to Jan. 1, 2021. “This bill explicitly authorizes district attorneys and the Attorney General to pursue UCL claims alleging that a business or organization has directly or indirectly engaged in unfair competition with respect to scientific evidence regarding the existence, extent, or current or future impacts of anthropogenic induced climate change,” says the state Senate Rules Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. That can't possibly be true? It makes my brain hurt thinking a Gvt. body in America would pass something like that knowing it is completely unconstitutional. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:20:25 PM EDT
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I fucking hate this state. I want out.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:20:34 PM EDT
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Since much of this is directed at fossil fuel companies, those same companies should shut off fuel delivery to CA for one week. Within a week the state would be nothing but riots and looting.
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:26:44 PM EDT
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Hell, you don't need that pesky First Amendment, you don't need that right to dissent, Big Brother knows what is best for you.............knows how you should think
It is dangerous to be right in things or accredited men are wrong.Voltaire If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. George Orwell |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:31:30 PM EDT
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Chances of passage?
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:33:13 PM EDT
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Just another reminder of how important the 2016 election will be in terms of SCOTUS appointments. But but but but TRUMP IS HITLER!!! TRUMP IS HITLER!!!! MY PRINCIPALS!!!!!! HE DOES NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!!!! TRUMP IS HITLER!!!!! 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:34:16 PM EDT
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Landmark California bill would allow prosecution of climate-change skeptics A landmark California bill gaining steam would make it illegal to engage in climate-change dissent, clearing the way for lawsuits against fossil-fuel companies, think-tanks and others that have “deceived or misled the public on the risks of climate change.”
The first-of-its-kind legislation — Senate Bill 1161, or the California Climate Science Truth and Accountability Act of 2016 — is scheduled for floor action Thursday after clearing Senate committees in April and May. The measure would allow state and local prosecutors to pursue claims against climate-change skepticism as a violation of the state’s Unfair Competition Law [UCL], as well as extend the four-year statute of limitations for such claims retroactively to Jan. 1, 2021. “This bill explicitly authorizes district attorneys and the Attorney General to pursue UCL claims alleging that a business or organization has directly or indirectly engaged in unfair competition with respect to scientific evidence regarding the existence, extent, or current or future impacts of anthropogenic induced climate change,” says the state Senate Rules Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. Cali is the first four letters of caliphate. So get down on your knees. 
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:34:36 PM EDT
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Now you see why we want Cali to break off into the ocean. If my mother, sister, and some other assorted relatives did not like there I would be ok with a mediumish meteor taking out the coastal areas of CA. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:35:05 PM EDT
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Does that now make it illegal to send power to California?
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:35:38 PM EDT
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Your French must be rusty as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses ou des hommes accredites ont tort. My latin is rusty, did you just say bend over? Your French must be rusty as well. Yes, but French is derived from Latin. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:36:15 PM EDT
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Let it burn. Pain is a great educator. Yup. Getting tired of eating this shit sammich. Bring on consequences of natural law. Want to see the lefties crushed under the wheels of their own machinations. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:38:43 PM EDT
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The nail that sticks up must be hammered down. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:38:55 PM EDT
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Landmark California bill would allow prosecution of climate-change skeptics A landmark California bill gaining steam would make it illegal to engage in climate-change dissent, clearing the way for lawsuits against fossil-fuel companies, think-tanks and others that have “deceived or misled the public on the risks of climate change.”
The first-of-its-kind legislation — Senate Bill 1161, or the California Climate Science Truth and Accountability Act of 2016 — is scheduled for floor action Thursday after clearing Senate committees in April and May. The measure would allow state and local prosecutors to pursue claims against climate-change skepticism as a violation of the state’s Unfair Competition Law [UCL], as well as extend the four-year statute of limitations for such claims retroactively to Jan. 1, 2021. “This bill explicitly authorizes district attorneys and the Attorney General to pursue UCL claims alleging that a business or organization has directly or indirectly engaged in unfair competition with respect to scientific evidence regarding the existence, extent, or current or future impacts of anthropogenic induced climate change,” says the state Senate Rules Seems to me there should be some serious discussion about a what do with a rogue State government that is so far Left that they are becoming an unconstitutional entity, and constitutional protections are no longer protecting the people. |
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Posted: 6/2/2016 6:39:03 PM EDT
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Now you see why we want Cali to break off into the ocean. If that happens,we will have to dump N.J.,Mass.,and N.Y. into the Atlantic to keep the U.S. from tipping over.................... |
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