User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 3:15:01 AM EDT
[#1]
Luck, as much as it may exist, is random.
So, no. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 3:15:40 AM EDT
[#2]
No.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 3:50:51 AM EDT
[#3]
Ringworld
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 4:06:47 AM EDT
[#4]
Yep. Luck, chance or divine intervention.
When I was a kid, my brother held the family up to tie his shoes. Five seconds later a carload of guys being chased by the Po-Po got airborne at an intersection we would have been in if not for loose shoe laces. Us boys all grew up, mated and made offspring... so there. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 4:29:35 AM EDT
[#5]
If evolution is real, it is already selecting luck as a factor. Those that don't have a tree branch fall on them or get chased into a den full of angry lesbian bears by a swarm of killer bees tend to live longer and reproduce.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 4:36:40 AM EDT
[#6]
Teela Brown says yes.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 4:41:13 AM EDT
[#7]
Luck often enough will save a man, if his courage hold.
 |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 4:48:14 AM EDT
[#8]
If luck were passed on genetically this world would be a very different place.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 4:48:36 AM EDT
[#9]
[Deleted]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 4:53:59 AM EDT
[#10]
Its not luck. It is adjusting to make sure it works.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 4:57:34 AM EDT
[#11]
Luck is when opportunity meets preparation. If you are not prepared for it, the opportunity is of no value to you.
You can control the preparation, so you can control a bit of the luck, so yes it can be an evolutionary factor. Trouble is, opportunity, and what that opportunity is, is random so that negates it all but the more common cases. Still, the common cases are common for a reason (and knowing them would be part of the preparation). Consider your ability to see the bigger picture in a society as your ability to perceive what an "opportunity" might be, that ability may certainly have a genetic component and therefore would be susceptible to evolution. Trouble is, our government is trying to remove failure, and failure is as much a part of that evolution process as success (which they are trying to destroy). |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 5:44:39 AM EDT
[#12]
OP has read Ringworld.
FP has not. I have no opinion. To expound on Ringworld, If Teela Brown had genetic luck, and that luck forced her to go to a certain place and have certain things happen to her when she got there, it would mean that she had no free will. So what would luck be? How would it manifest itself? To quote Mr. Spock, "Random factors of chance have operated in our favor" = "We got lucky". But can you be unlucky at love but lucky with money, or at gambling? If it's consistent is it really luck, or could you be reading the situation subconsciously and acting accordingly? I've read that luck is a bonus to good preparation, nothing more. All that means is that if you're prepared you can take advantage of a good situation that develops unexpectedly. So the first thing to do is define "luck". And good luck with that! |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 6:22:24 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Luck is when opportunity meets preparation. If you are not prepared for it, the opportunity is of no value to you. You can control the preparation, so you can control a bit of the luck, so yes it can be an evolutionary factor. Trouble is, opportunity, and what that opportunity is, is random so that negates it all but the more common cases. Still, the common cases are common for a reason (and knowing them would be part of the preparation). Consider your ability to see the bigger picture in a society as your ability to perceive what an "opportunity" might be, that ability may certainly have a genetic component and therefore would be susceptible to evolution. Trouble is, our government is trying to remove failure, and failure is as much a part of that evolution process as success (which they are trying to destroy). NI |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 6:38:35 AM EDT
[#14]
Napoleon was reported to have said WTTE, "I don't need another smart General. I've got lots of smart Generals. Give me a lucky General." And we all know how that turned out.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 6:49:05 AM EDT
[#15]
Darwin is your friend
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 7:03:56 AM EDT
[#16]
In the Larry Niven Sci-Fi Classic "Ringworld", an attractive, but seemingly ditzy woman was chosen as a member of the crew by the alien race planning the mission, solely because unbeknownst to her, she was a human that had been bred for luck over centuries, and the alien heading the mission felt having her onboard made the trip less likely to have a catastrophic end to the mission.
Always thought that was an interesting plot quirk. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 7:08:19 AM EDT
[#17]
If luck actually existed, is it a biologically heritable trait that is passed from parent to offspring?
If so, then I guess, yes, hypothetically, it could be selected for. If not, then no. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 7:26:16 AM EDT
[#18]
Luck is a result of effort. Jefferson said that the harder he worked, the more luck he seemed to have. When I was younger and chasing the poon, I had to work harder at it then some of my buds did yet every time I scored I would say I got lucky.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 8:24:47 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Teela Brown says yes. ...and the puppeteers say WTF have we done??? |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 10:44:15 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Lets make two assumptions: Evolution is 100% real (to hopefully stave off that debate.) Luck is defined as an [i]odds defying ability or inherent trait that allows for a mathematically impossible advantage[i/]. It's unnecessary to assume evolution is 100% real. What you're talking about is intra-species evolution, which has been proven to be real. So, if luck is a real genetic trait, then it logically follows that it can be bred. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 10:49:58 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
But can you be unlucky at love but lucky with money, or at gambling? If it's consistent is it really luck, or could you be reading the situation subconsciously and acting accordingly? I've read that luck is a bonus to good preparation, nothing more. All that means is that if you're prepared you can take advantage of a good situation that develops unexpectedly. My mother and one of her friends were habitual Bingo players. My mother rarely won. Her friend won consistently, almost every week. I don't know how one can prepare in any way to increase the odds of winning at Bingo. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 11:13:05 AM EDT
[#22]
I see luck as falling in with karma.
If you are a pleasant person that helps others, then you will be well liked and people will want to help you. IE good things seem to happen to you. Grumbling bitter assholes are not liked so they get less help, people have less sympathy for the that person's problems. Also that personality remembers the bad more than the good so it seems bad things are always happening. Now if this is true, then I am the most unluckiest person on Earth, and you kids get OFF MY LAWN. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 11:15:53 AM EDT
[#23]
I don't believe in luck.
I believe in karma. Do good things, follow the good/right path, and good things follow and happen. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 11:20:43 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Teela Brown says yes. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 12:03:56 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't believe in luck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't believe in luck. I don't believe. Period. However, "luck" -- as the term is generally used -- is real. As an example, I once was walking through a downtown area, and happened to find a $20 bill lying on the sidewalk. Good luck for me. Bad luck for whoever lost it. I believe in karma. Do good things, follow the good/right path, and good things follow and happen. Then why do bad things happen to good people? |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 12:20:12 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Then why do bad things happen to good people? Quote HistoryQuoted:
I believe in karma. Do good things, follow the good/right path, and good things follow and happen. Then why do bad things happen to good people? Even good people do bad things, and being good doesn't make you immune from bad things. Karma is real, but it isn't a mystical, mythical force of balance. It's similar to the intangible business asset known as goodwill. John is about to trip over something, and face plant. If John is a good guy and most people like him, the odds that someone will prevent him from taking a fall go up. If John is a dickhead and most people don't like him, the odds that no one will do anything besides chuckle quietly go up. Apply that basic concept to more complex social interactions, and more subtle events. Karma. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 12:26:13 PM EDT
[#27]
 Show me a "mathematically impossible" thing or event.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 12:34:44 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Show me a "mathematically impossible" thing or event.
An equal distribution of no apples among no people? 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 12:36:19 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Lets make two assumptions: Evolution is 100% real (to hopefully stave off that debate.) Luck is defined as an [i]odds defying ability or inherent trait that allows for a mathematically impossible advantage[i/]. By your definitions, yes. I think that luck, as you define it, isn't real though. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 1:12:26 PM EDT
[#30]
Of course it is. Everyone knows that you can't pass on your genes if you are unable to "get lucky."
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2016 1:22:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Even good people do bad things, and being good doesn't make you immune from bad things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I believe in karma. Do good things, follow the good/right path, and good things follow and happen. Then why do bad things happen to good people? Even good people do bad things, and being good doesn't make you immune from bad things. If being good doesn't make you immune from bad things, then "karma" -- do good things, follow the good/right path, and good things follow and happen -- is a questionable concept. Karma is real, but it isn't a mystical, mythical force of balance. It's similar to the intangible business asset known as goodwill.
John is about to trip over something, and face plant. If John is a good guy and most people like him, the odds that someone will prevent him from taking a fall go up. If John is a dickhead and most people don't like him, the odds that no one will do anything besides chuckle quietly go up. And if John is about to trip over something, and face plant, but no other people are near him, then it won't matter if he is a good guy, which again casts doubt on the idea of karma. Apply that basic concept to more complex social interactions, and more subtle events. So, at best, the concept of karma has only limited validity. It depends upon whether other people are aware of your good or bad behavior, as well as their reaction to it, but nature is either fickle in response to your behavior, or ignores it entirely. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
