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Posted: 5/20/2016 2:21:55 PM EDT
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Johnson cannot name his running mate. He can endorse him as a VP pick, but he does not get to create the ticket. The Presidential and Vice-Presidential selections are two separate activities in the national convention at the end of May. The actual selection of the VP is done in open convention with delegates voting for the different VP candidates through successive balloting until a single candidate has over 50% of the vote or a clear majority. Same as the Presidential candidates. After the VP candidates have been formally nominated in convention, a Presidential nominee can give a speech to the convention on their behalf, right before balloting for VP begins. I do not see Weld getting past the first ballot, in any way. He's an easy elimination. Johnson probably hurt his chances by even mentioning him. I didn't realize any of that. yeah the LP is sure to fuck up this incredible obvious opportunity. Trump it is. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 2:37:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't realize any of that. yeah the LP is sure to fuck up this incredible obvious opportunity. Trump it is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Johnson cannot name his running mate. He can endorse him as a VP pick, but he does not get to create the ticket. The Presidential and Vice-Presidential selections are two separate activities in the national convention at the end of May. The actual selection of the VP is done in open convention with delegates voting for the different VP candidates through successive balloting until a single candidate has over 50% of the vote or a clear majority. Same as the Presidential candidates. After the VP candidates have been formally nominated in convention, a Presidential nominee can give a speech to the convention on their behalf, right before balloting for VP begins. I do not see Weld getting past the first ballot, in any way. He's an easy elimination. Johnson probably hurt his chances by even mentioning him. I didn't realize any of that. yeah the LP is sure to fuck up this incredible obvious opportunity. Trump it is. I would just like the LP to nominate actual long-term libertarians, and not someone that jumped ship from another party. But this years crop of LP candidates has been just as bad as the Democrat and Republican parties. I think James Gray would be a good LP Pres pick this year, but he's not running. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 2:48:00 PM EDT
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I would just like the LP to nominate actual long-term libertarians, and not someone that jumped ship from another party. But this years crop of LP candidates has been just as bad as the Democrat and Republican parties. I think James Gray would be a good LP Pres pick this year, but he's not running. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Johnson cannot name his running mate. He can endorse him as a VP pick, but he does not get to create the ticket. The Presidential and Vice-Presidential selections are two separate activities in the national convention at the end of May. The actual selection of the VP is done in open convention with delegates voting for the different VP candidates through successive balloting until a single candidate has over 50% of the vote or a clear majority. Same as the Presidential candidates. After the VP candidates have been formally nominated in convention, a Presidential nominee can give a speech to the convention on their behalf, right before balloting for VP begins. I do not see Weld getting past the first ballot, in any way. He's an easy elimination. Johnson probably hurt his chances by even mentioning him. I didn't realize any of that. yeah the LP is sure to fuck up this incredible obvious opportunity. Trump it is. I would just like the LP to nominate actual long-term libertarians, and not someone that jumped ship from another party. But this years crop of LP candidates has been just as bad as the Democrat and Republican parties. I think James Gray would be a good LP Pres pick this year, but he's not running. I don't disagree, but the problem with actual long term Libertarians is that they are not very good at politics. That's why i like Johnson - I think he's a Libertarian and also he's won stuff. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 3:17:48 PM EDT
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Riddle me this ... how does "assault weapons banner" and "libertarian" jive?
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Posted: 5/20/2016 3:24:18 PM EDT
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The Libertarian party should be renamed the Drug party. That is the only freedom they really care about.
When I was in undergrad I made it a point to go to every Libertaian rally or table at events and start talking about machine guns and carrying pistols without a permit. They would always get uncomfortable and try to steer the conversation back to MJ. It was cheap entertainment  |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 4:41:47 PM EDT
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Libertarian presidential hopeful Gary Johnson pushed back on a report that David Koch, the billionaire who once ran as the party's vice presidential nominee, was ready to fund his campaign. "To my knowledge, it's not happening," said Johnson, in a short interview Thursday. "That's not to say it isn't, but it would be a surprise to me. We tried to talk to Kochs during the last cycle, and we couldn't do it. There are a lot of people who are expressing interest, in a big way, to be a part of this, but I'm not naming names. I can say that I haven't reached out to the Kochs." A top Koch Industries official also said the story was inaccurate. "Reports that David Koch has pledged his support to Gary Johnson – or any candidate running for president for that matter – are untrue," Philip Ellender, president of public affairs at Koch Companies Public Sector, said in a statement. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 7:06:59 PM EDT
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Don't take the bait. This thread is nothing but trolling. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Libertarians are just a subspecies of moonbat. Are republicans better? Don't take the bait. This thread is nothing but trolling. How do you figure????? Did Johnson choose Weld as his running mate? Does Weld Have a History of being a grabber?? if the answer to both of those questions is "Yes" then this is a legitimate wuestion....especially for people who have already stated they would vote for Johnson. |
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Posted: 5/23/2016 8:49:22 PM EDT
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A libertarian who wants to ban guns is a walking oxymoron.
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Posted: 5/23/2016 11:38:29 PM EDT
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A libertarian who wants to ban guns is a walking oxymoron. That's the point of this thread. 
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Posted: 5/24/2016 9:56:51 AM EDT
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The Libertarian party should be renamed the Drug party. That is the only freedom they really care about. When I was in undergrad I made it a point to go to every Libertaian rally or table at events and start talking about machine guns and carrying pistols without a permit. They would always get uncomfortable and try to steer the conversation back to MJ. It was cheap entertainment
How long ago was that? I'm not saying you're wrong. I can't say that I've ever been to an actual libertarian event |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 10:32:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Libertarian presidential hopeful Gary Johnson pushed back on a report that David Koch, the billionaire who once ran as the party's vice presidential nominee, was ready to fund his campaign. "To my knowledge, it's not happening," said Johnson, in a short interview Thursday. "That's not to say it isn't, but it would be a surprise to me. We tried to talk to Kochs during the last cycle, and we couldn't do it. There are a lot of people who are expressing interest, in a big way, to be a part of this, but I'm not naming names. I can say that I haven't reached out to the Kochs." A top Koch Industries official also said the story was inaccurate. "Reports that David Koch has pledged his support to Gary Johnson – or any candidate running for president for that matter – are untrue," Philip Ellender, president of public affairs at Koch Companies Public Sector, said in a statement. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/19/libertarian-hopeful-gary-johnson-denies-rumor-of-eight-figure-koch-campaign-donation/ I don't see how anyone can "fund" a campaign like this article implies. Each person is limited to giving $2700 per election to each candidate. A primary election and general election count as separate elections so you could give $2700 to each one. The max that David Koch could give Johnson is $5400, then. A candidate can use all their personal funds to put money in the campaign. So if Johnson was a millionaire, he could self-fund. But David Koch cannot give Johnson a big old check and Johnson declare that personal income. The FEC would jump all over that. Koch couldn't create a PAC and funnel money, either. A 527 is possible, but if it only helps out Johnsons campaign, again, the FEC would shut it down. Getting money handlers to process donations into the campaign is possible but the way the donor lists are being observed for just that kind of activity by both the feds and the other campaigns, not a lot of that can be done, certainly not millions of dollars. Basically, this entire article is misleading horseshit. What is alleged isn't even possible. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 10:37:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you figure????? Did Johnson choose Weld as his running mate? Does Weld Have a History of being a grabber?? if the answer to both of those questions is "Yes" then this is a legitimate wuestion....especially for people who have already stated they would vote for Johnson. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Libertarians are just a subspecies of moonbat. Are republicans better? Don't take the bait. This thread is nothing but trolling. How do you figure????? Did Johnson choose Weld as his running mate? Does Weld Have a History of being a grabber?? if the answer to both of those questions is "Yes" then this is a legitimate wuestion....especially for people who have already stated they would vote for Johnson.  |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 10:39:11 AM EDT
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This thread is a great example of why we are going to be stuck with choices like Trump and Hillary. No one wants to go outside of the security blanket that is the two party system.
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Posted: 5/24/2016 10:39:46 AM EDT
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A libertarian who wants to ban guns is a walking oxymoron. gary Johnson also supports expanding background checks. steven crowder did a interview with a libertarian candidate who in my opinion is a much better choice. im at work now so I cant find the interview video. He addressed things like the national firearms act |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 10:44:56 AM EDT
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Gary Johnson is OUT of my favour.
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Posted: 5/24/2016 10:53:37 AM EDT
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Pure hilarity.
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Posted: 5/24/2016 10:57:34 AM EDT
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"Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson has chosen former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld as his running mate, The Associated Press reported Wednesday. Johnson, former governor or New Mexico, told the AP that Weld would make the announcement of his vice presidential candidacy Thursday." Weld has a less-than-perfect record on gun rights as shown in this article from 1993.............. With voters growing increasingly fearful of gunfire on the streets, Gov. William F. Weld of Massachusetts reversed course this week and proposed some of the most stringent gun control laws in the country. Mr. Weld, a Republican who will run for re-election next year, called for a statewide ban on assault weapons -- a proposal he opposed during his 1990 campaign -- as well as a waiting period for buying handguns and a prohibition on handgun ownership by anyone under 21. His proposed legislation would also limit the number of handguns an individual could buy and would impose tough penalties for illegal gun sales and gun-related crimes. "The purpose of this common sense legislation is to remove deadly guns from our streets and to take weapons out of the hands of many teens who themselves are becoming deadly killers," the Governor said. As a candidate three years ago, Mr. Weld's position on gun control had won him the endorsement of the Gun Owners' Action League, a local lobbying group affiliated with the National Rifle Association. And while many law enforcement officials this week praised his turnaround, his critics charged that the Governor was acting out of political expediency. http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/01/us/in-shift-massachusetts-governor-backs-gun-law.html Awesome. 3 anti-gun candidates. Write in it is......
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Posted: 5/24/2016 11:02:59 AM EDT
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Fuck me, I might actually vote for Trump  yup, this seals the deal for me to vote Trump. I had a tiny urge to vote my conscience and support Johnson, but not with that turd on the ticket. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 11:16:03 AM EDT
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How long ago was that? I'm not saying you're wrong. I can't say that I've ever been to an actual libertarian event Local LP groups vary wildly. In the 90s, the Dallas group only cared about drugs. The Houston group only cared about gay "privileges" that they called "rights". The Houston group got pissed when the state convention told them "government shouldn't be involved with marriage or any of that". |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 11:18:30 AM EDT
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That's odd. I wouldn't call any of the libertarians I know leftists. Leftists like big government and libertarians inherently do not like big government. Leftists like gun control and libertarians do not like gun control because they see gun control as big government. Leftists like welfare and foodstamps, whereas libertarians would not approve of the government robbing one man to give to another. Leftists like communism and market control, whereas libertarians advocate a free market. Just about the only things libertarians identify with leftists on are social issues such as drugs, prostitution, and abortion. And that doesn't mean libertarians necessarily like those things, they just don't believe the government has any business regulating them one way or the other. You also have to keep in mind that just because someone claims to be libertarian does not mean they are adhering to libertarian principles. It's no different than how some folks claim to be Christian, yet their actions reflect nothing of the sort. This guy ^ gets it. Yes, yes he does!
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Posted: 5/24/2016 11:57:52 AM EDT
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The Libertarian party is full of fuck.
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Posted: 5/24/2016 12:45:38 PM EDT
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No, since the LP VP position is nominated just like the Presidential position. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Libertarians are just a subspecies of moonbat. Are republicans better? Don't take the bait. This thread is nothing but trolling. How do you figure????? Did Johnson choose Weld as his running mate? Does Weld Have a History of being a grabber?? if the answer to both of those questions is "Yes" then this is a legitimate wuestion....especially for people who have already stated they would vote for Johnson. Interesting. .....so the LP knowingly CHOSE and Antigun VP candidate.? |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:00:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:04:16 PM EDT
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.........Gov. William F. Weld of Massachusetts reversed course this week and proposed some of the most stringent gun control laws in the country.
Mr. Weld, a Republican who will run for re-election next year, called for a statewide ban on assault weapons -- a proposal he opposed during his 1990 campaign -- as well as a waiting period for buying handguns and a prohibition on handgun ownership by anyone under 21. His proposed legislation would also limit the number of handguns an individual could buy and would impose tough penalties for illegal gun sales and gun-related crimes. Ah, yes. Northeast Republicans. Go on. Pin your hopes on them.
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:04:33 PM EDT
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I think he means Johnson--both a moonbat (duh), and he was the REPUBLICAN governor of N. Mexico. Or maybe both a "Libertarian" (this week) and a Republican. Or maybe a "Libertarian" (this week) and a moonbat. Hard to say for sure, but I didn't take it to mean you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Libertarians are just a subspecies of moonbat. Are republicans better? That fucker is the lowest subspecies of BOTH. Who? Me? I think he means Johnson--both a moonbat (duh), and he was the REPUBLICAN governor of N. Mexico. Or maybe both a "Libertarian" (this week) and a Republican. Or maybe a "Libertarian" (this week) and a moonbat. Hard to say for sure, but I didn't take it to mean you. As I understand it he was a good governor who shrank government. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:10:44 PM EDT
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Not single small l libertarian I know is like that. If anything they are more right leaning because they don't buy the big L view on open borders Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Libertarians are just a subspecies of moonbat. I know lots of arfcom claims otherwise, but all the libertarians I've ever personally known have been ultra leftists, but they were upset with the Dems because they didnt go far enough on drug legalization.
Not single small l libertarian I know is like that. If anything they are more right leaning because they don't buy the big L view on open borders Does the LP still favor open borders? Small "L" libertarians have different beliefs. The hipster libertarians at Reason and the Lew Rockwell types can both claim to be small "L" while pushing rather different agendas. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:15:43 PM EDT
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This kind of crap is why I stay small "l" and can't take the party seriously. Yeah, the actual political party is a disaster. If the GOP goes away the LP won't replace it. The LP has a niche for certain protest votes. It isn't serious about winning elections. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:16:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Libertarian party is full of fuck. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:20:12 PM EDT
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Some certainly do. Your intellectual dishonesty comes from the insinuation that that makes all their other belief all of a sudden not matter. Were that true, then Republicans would be 100% irrelevant because of their stances on gay marriage, the death penalty, and abortion. Also, anybody who agrees with AlexanderA is wrong 100% of the time. Social conservatism and economic leftism is the poison of both parties. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You cognitive dissonance is out of control. So is your intellectual dishonesty. Libtardians are Pro-open Border and believe in "free migration" or some delusional BS. Some certainly do. Your intellectual dishonesty comes from the insinuation that that makes all their other belief all of a sudden not matter. Were that true, then Republicans would be 100% irrelevant because of their stances on gay marriage, the death penalty, and abortion. Also, anybody who agrees with AlexanderA is wrong 100% of the time. Social conservatism and economic leftism is the poison of both parties. Open borders is one of the fastest ways to destroy this nation. Gay marriage, death penalty and abortion shouldn't be federal issues and are only distractions. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:22:57 PM EDT
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This thread is a great example of why we are going to be stuck with choices like Trump and Hillary. No one wants to go outside of the security blanket that is the two party system. The way our system is, it will be a two party system. The parties might change, but there will only be two that are viable, until we become a full on banana republic with only one viable party. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:31:01 PM EDT
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So, his choice for VP holds the same views on gun rights that Trump did until just very recently, shocking I tell you
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:51:16 PM EDT
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The way our system is, it will be a two party system. The parties might change, but there will only be two that are viable, until we become a full on banana republic with only one viable party. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is a great example of why we are going to be stuck with choices like Trump and Hillary. No one wants to go outside of the security blanket that is the two party system. The way our system is, it will be a two party system. The parties might change, but there will only be two that are viable, until we become a full on banana republic with only one viable party. Not a single one of the "I wish we didn't have an evil two party system" types have EVER explained what they think there is to gain by voting third party. They only want to suppress the GOP vote for posting that nonsense here over and over. On the one hand they are just liberal trolls doing what I said, or they may be too stupid to figure out how things work--either of which means they aren't fit to waste a moment's consideration as to their views. 
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Posted: 5/24/2016 2:57:16 PM EDT
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Shit, I might be able to do it sober and without vomiting at this rate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck me, I might actually vote for Trump Thanks, Gary. Shit, I might be able to do it sober and without vomiting at this rate. No kidding, this country is so screwed.
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Posted: 5/24/2016 3:06:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. .....so the LP knowingly CHOSE and Antigun VP candidate.? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: <snip> How do you figure????? Did Johnson choose Weld as his running mate? Does Weld Have a History of being a grabber?? if the answer to both of those questions is "Yes" then this is a legitimate wuestion....especially for people who have already stated they would vote for Johnson. Interesting. .....so the LP knowingly CHOSE and Antigun VP candidate.? No. The LP convention is next week. A dude trying to get the presidential nomination for the LP (Johnson) said he wants an antigun VP candidate (Weld) as his running mate. In the Libertarian Party the Presidential candidate does NOT get to pick their running mate. The VP nominee is picked among several other candidates at the convention by the delegates to the convention in an open election process. In other words, nobody has made Weld the VP nominee. Johnson said he wanted it, but he doesn't get to decide. We will know next week who the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates for the LP are. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 3:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know lots of arfcom claims otherwise, but all the libertarians I've ever personally known have been ultra leftists, but they were upset with the Dems because they didnt go far enough on drug legalization. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Libertarians are just a subspecies of moonbat. I know lots of arfcom claims otherwise, but all the libertarians I've ever personally known have been ultra leftists, but they were upset with the Dems because they didnt go far enough on drug legalization. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 4:58:38 PM EDT
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This thread is a great example of why we are going to be stuck with choices like Trump and Hillary. No one wants to go outside of the security blanket that is the two party system. Well when your party platform is free migration, gutting the military, drug legalization, legal prostitution, and so on and so on it is hard to be taken such a party seriously. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 11:25:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a single one of the "I wish we didn't have an evil two party system" types have EVER explained what they think there is to gain by voting third party. They only want to suppress the GOP vote for posting that nonsense here over and over. On the one hand they are just liberal trolls doing what I said, or they may be too stupid to figure out how things work--either of which means they aren't fit to waste a moment's consideration as to their views. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread is a great example of why we are going to be stuck with choices like Trump and Hillary. No one wants to go outside of the security blanket that is the two party system. The way our system is, it will be a two party system. The parties might change, but there will only be two that are viable, until we become a full on banana republic with only one viable party. Not a single one of the "I wish we didn't have an evil two party system" types have EVER explained what they think there is to gain by voting third party. They only want to suppress the GOP vote for posting that nonsense here over and over. On the one hand they are just liberal trolls doing what I said, or they may be too stupid to figure out how things work--either of which means they aren't fit to waste a moment's consideration as to their views. I just think the vast majority of "Libertarians" are more for the 'freedoms' the D's will vote for than the 'freedoms' the R's will vote for. IOW, they like drugs and gays and more than they like guns and lower taxes. |
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Posted: 5/24/2016 11:39:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know lots of arfcom claims otherwise, but all the libertarians I've ever personally known have been ultra leftists, but they were upset with the Dems because they didnt go far enough on drug legalization. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Libertarians are just a subspecies of moonbat. I know lots of arfcom claims otherwise, but all the libertarians I've ever personally known have been ultra leftists, but they were upset with the Dems because they didnt go far enough on drug legalization. Deep down inside, most Libertarian Party members really care about only three things this election cycle: Free pot, open borders, and transgenders in bathrooms. Religious gun owners who think a Libertarian president will have their back when it comes to the First and Second Amendments would be in for a rude surprise if Johnson won. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 7:01:32 AM EDT
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No. The LP convention is next week. A dude trying to get the presidential nomination for the LP (Johnson) said he wants an antigun VP candidate (Weld) as his running mate. In the Libertarian Party the Presidential candidate does NOT get to pick their running mate. The VP nominee is picked among several other candidates at the convention by the delegates to the convention in an open election process. In other words, nobody has made Weld the VP nominee. Johnson said he wanted it, but he doesn't get to decide. We will know next week who the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates for the LP are. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/25/2016 10:20:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But Johnson NAMED Weld as his PREFERRED Running mate.....the same Johnson that the Libertarians her on Arfcom...are saying they'd vote for. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Interesting. .....so the LP knowingly CHOSE and Antigun VP candidate.? No. The LP convention is next week. A dude trying to get the presidential nomination for the LP (Johnson) said he wants an antigun VP candidate (Weld) as his running mate. In the Libertarian Party the Presidential candidate does NOT get to pick their running mate. The VP nominee is picked among several other candidates at the convention by the delegates to the convention in an open election process. In other words, nobody has made Weld the VP nominee. Johnson said he wanted it, but he doesn't get to decide. We will know next week who the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates for the LP are. But Johnson NAMED Weld as his PREFERRED Running mate.....the same Johnson that the Libertarians her on Arfcom...are saying they'd vote for. Johnson can name anyone he wants. But the ticket is decided at the convention by the delegates, not the candidates. Johnson is not even the nominee yet. Hey may not even get past the first fucking ballot in the convention. I've been an LP party member for over 20 years, I've been a delegate at two national nominating conventions and I can tell you the last fucking thing you see at an LP convention is a coronation. Johnson does NOT have a lock on the nomination. There are delegates that are not pleased with his pick of Weld, and Austin Petersen is sounding better and better to a lot of these people. So is McAfee. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 10:43:37 AM EDT
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So, his choice for VP holds the same views on gun rights that Trump did until just very recently, shocking I tell you Trump living rent free in your brain. Trump 2000 "I generally oppose gun control" thats 16 years ago (maths are hard) and still better than your libertarian saviors! free the weed, ban the guns, open borders and peace, man. peace. |
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Posted: 5/25/2016 9:53:01 PM EDT
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Trump living rent free in your brain. Trump 2000 "I generally oppose gun control" thats 16 years ago (maths are hard) and still better than your libertarian saviors! free the weed, ban the guns, open borders and peace, man. peace. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, his choice for VP holds the same views on gun rights that Trump did until just very recently, shocking I tell you Trump living rent free in your brain. Trump 2000 "I generally oppose gun control" thats 16 years ago (maths are hard) and still better than your libertarian saviors! free the weed, ban the guns, open borders and peace, man. peace. This from 2012. Maths are hard, just sayin'... 
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