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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:35:42 PM EDT
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... that's mean to even suggest it
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:37:46 PM EDT
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Atleast move to a free state and keep the jobs in the states.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:39:12 PM EDT
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In before weird angry arfcom guys say that $5.85 is a perfectly fine wage.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:39:17 PM EDT
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In before Carrier gets nailed with some Federal lawsuit for suggesting below minimum wage pay. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:39:18 PM EDT
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Atleast move to a free state and keep the jobs in the states. Lol |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:39:35 PM EDT
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Their company their choice.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:40:06 PM EDT
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Who the fuck would authorize this statement? On what planet would this sort of statement garner support for the company? They need to fire their PR rep.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:40:13 PM EDT
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Wtf we should force them to come back
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:42:43 PM EDT
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What fucking retard would even suggest something so fucking stupid?
It's honestly just a fuck you to all of the people they will be firing. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:42:49 PM EDT
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In before weird angry arfcom guys say that $5.85 is a perfectly fine wage. Any wage is fine as long as both parties agree to it in my opinion, the whole idea of a forced minimum wage is BS. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:43:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Atleast move to a free state and keep the jobs in the states. And then wages still kill their product, their AC units run 40-70% more then your wonderfully built Chinese piece of shit and they can no longer compete selling here or anywhere else. And Americans buy the cheap piece of crap Chinese units because, hey, it's cheaper. And then Carrier goes out of business. Americans, our own worst enemies. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:43:38 PM EDT
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http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/call-6-carrier-said-it-might-stay-if-workers-cut-their-pay-to-585-an-hour Call 6 Investigates found out that during those talks Carrier apparently told the union they could possibly stay if the workers agreed to cut their pay from about $23 an hour to $5.85 an hour. Carrier is supposed to save about $65 million a year when it moves to Mexico in 2017.  Eff them.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:44:19 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:44:24 PM EDT
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In before weird angry arfcom guys say that $5.85 is a perfectly fine wage. Just barely |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:44:30 PM EDT
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If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:44:41 PM EDT
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In before Carrier gets nailed with some Federal lawsuit for suggesting below minimum wage pay. I was thinking the same thing. It can't be legal to threaten someone's job unless they agree to take minimum wage. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:46:00 PM EDT
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If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:46:01 PM EDT
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That's pretty funny... lol.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:47:41 PM EDT
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Who the fuck would authorize this statement? On what planet would this sort of statement garner support for the company? They need to fire their PR rep. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You should read the story. The statement from Carrier addresses the $5.85 claim as impossible. It's the union manipulating things. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:48:38 PM EDT
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Now that's what you call negotiating from a position of strength! Carrier holds all the cards on this deal.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:48:49 PM EDT
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If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model. Competing against Chicom imports and Americans who want cheap shit. Maybe it's time Americans reexamine how we spend our money. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:49:03 PM EDT
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If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model. In your job who do you think your company would rather employ? You making xx an hour or someone who makes 1/20th of what you make? |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:49:19 PM EDT
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Didn't Trump say he was bringing that wage back to the US? At least that's what came to my mind when he said he could build iphones here cheaper.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:49:27 PM EDT
[#24]
What idiot....?
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:49:59 PM EDT
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Even a yuuuuge tariff might not split the difference on that wage gap. lol |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:50:03 PM EDT
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There shouldnt be any minimum wage. If the market commands a certain hourly wage then it's capitalism. Look at singapore - they dont have a minmum wage. All their service sector McJobs consist of elderly and teens. Able bodied adults have to work on their skills and get a job that supports their families. None of this lazy FSA work 20 hours a week and get gov aid BS
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:51:23 PM EDT
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There shouldnt be any minimum wage. If the market commands a certain hourly wage then it's capitalism. Look at singapore - they dont have a minmum wage. All their service sector McJobs consist of elderly and teens. Able bodied adults have to work on their skills and get a job that supports their families. None of this lazy FSA work 20 hours a week and get gov aid BS I agree. A min. wage tells the business what it has to pay you not what the market should pay you. Get rid of min. wage and see how many jobs offer more money because they have to in order to employ people. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:52:02 PM EDT
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Below min. wage.?
Hasta la vista. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:52:33 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:53:27 PM EDT
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What fucking retard would even suggest something so fucking stupid? It's honestly just a fuck you to all of the people they will be firing. Just pushes more to Trump. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:54:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There shouldnt be any minimum wage. If the market commands a certain hourly wage then it's capitalism. Look at singapore - they dont have a minmum wage. All their service sector McJobs consist of elderly and teens. Able bodied adults have to work on their skills and get a job that supports their families. None of this lazy FSA work 20 hours a week and get gov aid BS NO SHIT Only old people and teenagers have those jobs. If you started a family and are pushing 30 and making minimum wage, is it the company's obligation to support you with a commensurate wage? No, shit for brains, it's yours. What are you doing making minimum wage when you're 30? What are you doing having children you know you can't support? |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:55:02 PM EDT
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... that's mean to even suggest it No, that's confronting the workers with reality. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:56:29 PM EDT
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Not sure where the truth begins in this matter, but if you read down into the article, Carrier's spokesperson claims they never made such an offer. According to Carrier, the only mention of the wage comparison was meant to demonstrate to the union that there was no concessions they could possibly make that would alter Carrier's intention to relocate -- it's been resolved.
No, I'm not taking Carrier's side, or saying either party is right or wrong here. Is Carrier being puron on their commitment? |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:56:30 PM EDT
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Brutal fact about artificial minimum wages, you can always find cheaper labor somewhere else.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:56:41 PM EDT
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No, that's confronting the workers with reality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... that's mean to even suggest it No, that's confronting the workers with reality. Yep. The union wanted to know what it would take for them to stay. The company said it. And who would have thought NAFTA would continue to benefit us? |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:57:07 PM EDT
[#36]
lol...
Well...That's funny...I don't care who you are. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:58:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Atleast move to a free state and keep the jobs in the states. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:58:26 PM EDT
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Don't buy anything they built after Feb 10, 2016, there may be some defects not good for your house.
Just sayin' |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:58:34 PM EDT
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If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model. Perhaps their business model has become shitty due to government's over regulation of everything. I wonder what payroll taxes the company pays for their $23/hour workers.... |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 12:59:22 PM EDT
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Who the fuck would authorize this statement? On what planet would this sort of statement garner support for the company? They need to fire their PR rep. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I'd guess the union, it was probably said in response to a question like "is there NO possible way to keep the place here in Indiana?", " yeah, at $5.85/HR maybe... " Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:00:01 PM EDT
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"We are disappointed the union has apparently chosen to negotiate through the media, rather than engage in productive discussions with us. The company never suggested our employees should work for $5.85. The union was told that to achieve the $65 million in annual savings resulting from the relocation, the average hourly wage rate would need to be $5.85 per hour. That is not possible and shows why the company believes the union cannot offer concessions sufficient to change the company's intent to relocate. That’s why it’s time for the union to return to the table to talk about what’s important now, reaching an agreement that provides clarity and certainty for our employees during the transition." Looks like the union is just trying to cause problems... lol...Fuck unions..you get what you deserve. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:00:05 PM EDT
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I was thinking the same thing. It can't be legal to threaten someone's job unless they agree to take minimum wage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before Carrier gets nailed with some Federal lawsuit for suggesting below minimum wage pay. I was thinking the same thing. It can't be legal to threaten someone's job unless they agree to take minimum wage. Is that what happened? Isn't it just as likely that the company told the workers, hey, here's the equivalent cost point. See? This doesn't work here. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:00:25 PM EDT
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Lol.
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:00:50 PM EDT
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You should read the story. The statement from Carrier addresses the $5.85 claim as impossible. It's the union manipulating things. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who the fuck would authorize this statement? On what planet would this sort of statement garner support for the company? They need to fire their PR rep. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile You should read the story. The statement from Carrier addresses the $5.85 claim as impossible. It's the union manipulating things. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile And the arfcom statist union fucksticks lap it up. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:02:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/call-6-carrier-said-it-might-stay-if-workers-cut-their-pay-to-585-an-hour Call 6 Investigates found out that during those talks Carrier apparently told the union they could possibly stay if the workers agreed to cut their pay from about $23 an hour to $5.85 an hour. Carrier is supposed to save about $65 million a year when it moves to Mexico in 2017. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:02:16 PM EDT
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If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model. And if the value of your labor is only worth $5.85 an hour to a company maybe it's time to improve your skill set. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:02:54 PM EDT
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How many of you remember the 92 debates between Perot and Gore??
Gore was saying NAFTA would bring the worlds wages up to our level,while Perot was saying they would bring ours down,along with the giant sucking sound of jobs leaving the country. "No one could have seen this coming" 
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:03:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And if the value of your labor is only worth $5.85 an hour to a company maybe it's time to improve your skill set. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If the only way your company can remain profitable is to pay your workers $5.85/hr, then maybe it's time to reexamine your shitty business model. And if the value of your labor is only worth $5.85 an hour to a company maybe it's time to improve your skill set. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:03:44 PM EDT
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that's poorly considered, by Carrier. It's a slap in the face. Who the fuck thought of this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/call-6-carrier-said-it-might-stay-if-workers-cut-their-pay-to-585-an-hour Call 6 Investigates found out that during those talks Carrier apparently told the union they could possibly stay if the workers agreed to cut their pay from about $23 an hour to $5.85 an hour. Carrier is supposed to save about $65 million a year when it moves to Mexico in 2017. The union is the one who released the "quote". The union is the ones who are causing the problems. Fuck them. |
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Posted: 4/30/2016 1:03:45 PM EDT
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Grumpycatgood.jog
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