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Posted: 4/28/2016 7:21:36 AM EDT
I'm a bit paranoid about losing all of our digital Photos/Videos that we have taken over the years so I'm looking to find a service to be able to back everything up on a offsite storage service.
I have backups of everything and have a home server to do this but what if the house burns down? All of it is gone! I keep portable drives in my safe but that is still not guaranteed to make it through a fire. Any suggestions on a reliable but not too expensive service? I think I currently have about 250-300 gigs of files to store and that will obviously grow over time. |
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I wish there were a reliable cloud storage that could store my photography files, but there are somewhere around 10 TBs of RAW files.
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Google drive is pretty good. Plenty of free storage and you get additional storage sometimes for doing trivial things like verifying your security and privacy settings every year. The paid storage plans are pretty cheap too if you need more. It sysnc great with multiple computers/phones/tablets and the web browser interface is easy to use from any computer just like checking gmail.
15gb free 100gb for $2/month 1TB for $10/month |
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Take a look at Smugmug. You can keep everything private or setup galleries. Cost is reasonable.
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Yep. Set up your own NAS. More expensive but you own/control it...forever. You can pretend it's a cloud...which sits on your desk. About the only downside is it won't protect your files if your house burns down. |
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I'm a bit paranoid about losing all of our digital Photos/Videos that we have taken over the years so I'm looking to find some big corporation to store my digital records on their computers, which are targets of every hacker on earth, even when the corporations don't F it up to begin with a service to be able to back everything up on a offsite storage service. View Quote FIFY |
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External hard drives are cheap. Buy two and back up photos and important files and store them in different locations. I keep one in my gun safe and one in my locker at work so in the event of theft or fire I'm good. I really don't care for cloud storage because the security risks are obvious and paying annual fees for digital storage is a silly concept to me when memory is so cheap today.
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I wish there were a reliable cloud storage that could store my photography files, but there are somewhere around 10 TBs of RAW files. View Quote When you have that much, it's a bit tricky. Gotta learn how to prune what you won't really NEED. Process all the memorable ones to jpeg and get rid of the raw stuff when you don't need it. Otherwise, you may want to look into something like a BluRay burner and burn to disc, then store some offsite somewhere. |
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I rotate my USB backup drives and two are always in a safe deposit box at the bank.
Bank box costs me about $50/year and can hold 4 drives. That plus Carbonite keeps things pretty available for recovery. |
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Google drive is pretty good. Plenty of free storage and you get additional storage sometimes for doing trivial things like verifying your security and privacy settings every year. The paid storage plans are pretty cheap too if you need more. It sysnc great with multiple computers/phones/tablets and the web browser interface is easy to use from any computer just like checking gmail. 15gb free 100gb for $2/month 1TB for $10/month View Quote This and TrueCrypt /veracrypt |
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When you have that much, it's a bit tricky. Gotta learn how to prune what you won't really NEED. Process all the memorable ones to jpeg and get rid of the raw stuff when you don't need it. Otherwise, you may want to look into something like a BluRay burner and burn to disc, then store some offsite somewhere. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wish there were a reliable cloud storage that could store my photography files, but there are somewhere around 10 TBs of RAW files. When you have that much, it's a bit tricky. Gotta learn how to prune what you won't really NEED. Process all the memorable ones to jpeg and get rid of the raw stuff when you don't need it. Otherwise, you may want to look into something like a BluRay burner and burn to disc, then store some offsite somewhere. This is just the RAW photos from my trips to Yellowstone, Alaska, etc... and I won't be converting them to JPEGs and discarding the RAW files because I don't know whether, some time in the future, I might want to print out a large copy in which case I would need the RAW file. I currently back them up on portable HDs (redundant backups) but I'd like something less vulnerable. |
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Set up your own NAS. Many NAS solutions include applications for whatever mobile platform that you use, for auto synching.
You aren't using someone else's servers, you aren't a big "target" by simply being associated with one of the big "cloud" solutions, that are constantly being breached. Data limits are all but non-existent when it's your own gear. |
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Set up your own NAS. Many NAS solutions include applications for whatever mobile platform that you use, for auto synching. You aren't using someone else's servers, you aren't a big "target" by simply being associated with one of the big "cloud" solutions, that are constantly being breached. Data limits are all but non-existent when it's your own gear. View Quote Ya'll don't pay much attention to what he asked for, do you? How,exactly, is setting up your own NAS, going to protect you when your house burns down? He needs off-site backups, which are a critical part of protecting information,. OP -- google drive, icloud, onedrive, dropbox -- all of them do what you want, just evaluate based on cost and performance. |
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Set up your own NAS. Many NAS solutions include applications for whatever mobile platform that you use, for auto synching. You aren't using someone else's servers, you aren't a big "target" by simply being associated with one of the big "cloud" solutions, that are constantly being breached. Data limits are all but non-existent when it's your own gear. View Quote This. The nice thing is being able to seamlessly sync multiple devices, set up your own media server and expandable capacity. I started with a 2x6TB array but added 2 more 6TBs just because it was relatively cheap and now not only am I set well into the future, I can now lose/replace a drive w/o losing any data. |
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Ya'll don't pay much attention to what he asked for, do you? How,exactly, is setting up your own NAS, going to protect you when your house burns down? He needs off-site backups, which are a critical part of protecting information,. OP -- google drive, icloud, onedrive, dropbox -- all of them do what you want, just evaluate based on cost and performance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Set up your own NAS. Many NAS solutions include applications for whatever mobile platform that you use, for auto synching. You aren't using someone else's servers, you aren't a big "target" by simply being associated with one of the big "cloud" solutions, that are constantly being breached. Data limits are all but non-existent when it's your own gear. Ya'll don't pay much attention to what he asked for, do you? How,exactly, is setting up your own NAS, going to protect you when your house burns down? He needs off-site backups, which are a critical part of protecting information,. OP -- google drive, icloud, onedrive, dropbox -- all of them do what you want, just evaluate based on cost and performance. Reedin' is hard yall. Some of you take paranoia to a new level. Not having an off sight backup is marginally better than not having a backup at all. If the data is static, sure put it on an external drive and send it to uncle Joe Bob in BFE. If it changes at all, you need something automatic, or it's not going to get done. I use Crashplan. $6 a month for one machine unlimited. Back up everything to my local file server, then back it up with Crashplan. There are three security levels you can choose from. The most secure option is to encrypt with a custom key locally before uploading. No one else ever has the key, so if you forget it your backup is a virtual paperweight. |
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Ya'll don't pay much attention to what he asked for, do you? How,exactly, is setting up your own NAS, going to protect you when your house burns down? He needs off-site backups, which are a critical part of protecting information,. OP -- google drive, icloud, onedrive, dropbox -- all of them do what you want, just evaluate based on cost and performance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Set up your own NAS. Many NAS solutions include applications for whatever mobile platform that you use, for auto synching. You aren't using someone else's servers, you aren't a big "target" by simply being associated with one of the big "cloud" solutions, that are constantly being breached. Data limits are all but non-existent when it's your own gear. Ya'll don't pay much attention to what he asked for, do you? How,exactly, is setting up your own NAS, going to protect you when your house burns down? He needs off-site backups, which are a critical part of protecting information,. OP -- google drive, icloud, onedrive, dropbox -- all of them do what you want, just evaluate based on cost and performance. Fuck no I don't. Title only baby! Set up a NAS at a family member's house. Designate folders for cross house syncing. Many NAS solutions allow this. There you go. Off site solution and google/amazon/whoever not jerking off to your kid's pictures. Or even simpler... update an encrypted drive (or even thumb drive based on OP's description) once a month. Dump in locked cabinet at office. Incremental it once a month. This is a personal drive, not a business one. So it's not like missing a week or two worth of data (that is likely still on someone's phone) is that big of an issue. There you go, a 100 buck solution. |
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Set up your own NAS. Many NAS solutions include applications for whatever mobile platform that you use, for auto synching. You aren't using someone else's servers, you aren't a big "target" by simply being associated with one of the big "cloud" solutions, that are constantly being breached. Data limits are all but non-existent when it's your own gear. View Quote Ok, I work in hosting. I primarily do dedicated servers, but my company does have several Cloud products - servers, databases, storage, etc. I will state this unequivocally, when it comes to Cloud servers, they are just as susceptible to exploits as dedicated servers. Why? They are essentially just servers. To the attackers on the other end of the internet pipe, a dedicated server and a cloud server are essentially the same damn thing. Cloud storage is quite different. It's not a server that runs common exploitable applications or CMSs. My company has had Cloud data storage for years, and I have never heard of a breach happening there. Sure, if people connect their exploitable applications to their Cloud storage, files could be compromised, but I've yet to hear of anyone directly gaining unauthorised access to anyone's Cloud storage. If you're just backing up pictures and stuff, well, those shouldn't really be all that sensitive. If you ARE backing up sensitive information, then look into some manner of encryption for it. I still use TrueCrypt, but will probably switch to something newer like VeraCrypt. Create an encrypted container and put your sensitive shit in it, and put copies of it where you can get to it. Easy peasy. |
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Honestly I wouldn't bother.
The times I tried using cloud storage for my photo libraries, it was taking forever to upload. Instead I'd just get several hard drives and keep one off site in a safety deposit box or work. |
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Google drive is pretty good. Plenty of free storage and you get additional storage sometimes for doing trivial things like verifying your security and privacy settings every year. The paid storage plans are pretty cheap too if you need more. It sysnc great with multiple computers/phones/tablets and the web browser interface is easy to use from any computer just like checking gmail. 15gb free 100gb for $2/month 1TB for $10/month This and TrueCrypt /veracrypt Yep, This is what I do. Sync my NAS to my Google Drive. Have a the $10 per month account. Have my own domain also, so that all usefully ties together. |
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Look at Amazon AWS Glacier - the storage itself is dirt cheap. Right now i am paying $0.23 a month to store what I would estimate to be ~50 GB of photos and video.
It is what I would consider a disaster recovery solution as opposed to "storage on the cloud"; It's cold storage - if you need to retrieve it, it's not instantly accessible and you have to request retrieval. Further, the real cost comes from retrieval and downloading your assets. It's probably not for everyone, but if you have a reasonable backup/disaster recovery plan locally, this provides an extra layer of insurance. https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/ |
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Reedin' is hard yall. Some of you take paranoia to a new level. Not having an off sight backup is marginally better than not having a backup at all. If the data is static, sure put it on an external drive and send it to uncle Joe Bob in BFE. If it changes at all, you need something automatic, or it's not going to get done. I use Crashplan. $6 a month for one machine unlimited. Back up everything to my local file server, then back it up with Crashplan. There are three security levels you can choose from. The most secure option is to encrypt with a custom key locally before uploading. No one else ever has the key, so if you forget it your backup is a virtual paperweight. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Set up your own NAS. Many NAS solutions include applications for whatever mobile platform that you use, for auto synching. You aren't using someone else's servers, you aren't a big "target" by simply being associated with one of the big "cloud" solutions, that are constantly being breached. Data limits are all but non-existent when it's your own gear. Ya'll don't pay much attention to what he asked for, do you? How,exactly, is setting up your own NAS, going to protect you when your house burns down? He needs off-site backups, which are a critical part of protecting information,. OP -- google drive, icloud, onedrive, dropbox -- all of them do what you want, just evaluate based on cost and performance. Reedin' is hard yall. Some of you take paranoia to a new level. Not having an off sight backup is marginally better than not having a backup at all. If the data is static, sure put it on an external drive and send it to uncle Joe Bob in BFE. If it changes at all, you need something automatic, or it's not going to get done. I use Crashplan. $6 a month for one machine unlimited. Back up everything to my local file server, then back it up with Crashplan. There are three security levels you can choose from. The most secure option is to encrypt with a custom key locally before uploading. No one else ever has the key, so if you forget it your backup is a virtual paperweight. I have two links relevant to this thread: First, if you're not familiar with the "3-2-1" backup strategy, I strongly recommend you take a few minutes to learn about it. dpBestFlow has one of the better explanations (written by Peter Krogh of "The DAM Book" fame). Key takeaway: The "1" represents "one copy offsite." Use an online service, string a network cable to your neighbor's house, swap external hard drives with a neighbor/friend/family/bank - whatever, just get one copy geographically separate from the computer. Bonus points for getting it at least one "hurricane width" away. Next, here is PC Mag: Best Online Backup 2016. Most online services offer point-to-point encryption (including encryption of files on the storage array in the "cloud"). Not all services allow backup of files on external drives - something to consider if your process is HD -> External Drive -> Offsite. My current online service is CrashPlan. I used Carbonite for a few years, but CrashPlan offers better service for similar price - including the option to backup external drives (Carbonite wants extra money for that). Quoted:
Honestly I wouldn't bother. The times I tried using cloud storage for my photo libraries, it was taking forever to upload. Instead I'd just get several hard drives and keep one off site in a safety deposit box or work. Pushing 100s GB or a few TB through your Internet pipe will take days (perhaps even measured in weeks), but once the initial upload is done, keeping it refreshed is a much faster affair as the only files pushed up are the ones you add or change. Having a copy offsite is worth the "bother" of simply waiting for the backup software to do its job. BTW, CrashPlan will let you send them an external drive to jumpstart your backup (for an extra fee). Folks relying on an external drive or local NAS/drobo solution are just one lightning strike or power supply failure away from losing it all. True, power supplies very rarely fail, but it happened to me and fried every single bit of electronics connected to the PC - including the external drive serving as the backup location. My offsite copy saved the day (or at least the data - which did take a bit more than a day to restore). "Yeah, but you could've just plugged in your second external drive and been back up sooner." Maybe. But how frequently do you add new precious baby photos? Or cheerleading videos? Or ... you get the point. Even swapping drives locally will leave you with a delta. Using an online storage option squeezes that delta to near zero. |
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This is just the RAW photos from my trips to Yellowstone, Alaska, etc... and I won't be converting them to JPEGs and discarding the RAW files because I don't know whether, some time in the future, I might want to print out a large copy in which case I would need the RAW file. I currently back them up on portable HDs (redundant backups) but I'd like something less vulnerable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I wish there were a reliable cloud storage that could store my photography files, but there are somewhere around 10 TBs of RAW files. When you have that much, it's a bit tricky. Gotta learn how to prune what you won't really NEED. Process all the memorable ones to jpeg and get rid of the raw stuff when you don't need it. Otherwise, you may want to look into something like a BluRay burner and burn to disc, then store some offsite somewhere. This is just the RAW photos from my trips to Yellowstone, Alaska, etc... and I won't be converting them to JPEGs and discarding the RAW files because I don't know whether, some time in the future, I might want to print out a large copy in which case I would need the RAW file. I currently back them up on portable HDs (redundant backups) but I'd like something less vulnerable. I suggest CrashPlan (or similar with unlimited storage) plus local copies on M-disc. |
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