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Posted: 4/27/2016 4:54:26 PM EDT
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Keep in mind. Cpt. McCall couldn't bury Gus until the Spring.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 4:59:15 PM EDT
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The economy is not the same as other places. We don't have the quantity of really high paying jobs other states have. What is happening is working class folks are having a hard time with the dream of owning some property because land values are shooting much faster than salaries. Where you can afford a good chunk of land is not going to work if you are not already retired. Same story lots of places.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 5:12:32 PM EDT
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My experience is limited to a 4 week backpacking expedition in the Tetons and some in Yellowstone, Idaho and Montana. I also hunted for 2 weeks in Medicine Bow National Forest (SEast side of Wyoming). That was enough to convince me that it is indeed Gods country. I persued a college degree to facilitate my moving out there ( Forestry and Hydrogeology). Then I met a Girl, fell in love with her, been married to her for close to 30 years now and never made it out west. It remains one of the biggest regrets in my life. I would move to Wyoming tonight if I could. And they call Montana "big sky" for a reason....
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Posted: 4/27/2016 5:20:10 PM EDT
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Nice thing about Montana is that as long as you enter a river at a legal access point, you can wade fish the whole length of the river.
In Wyoming, landowners own the bottom of the river where it runs through private property, so you can't wade or anchor, you can only float the water. Everyone should go to Montana. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 5:47:57 PM EDT
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If I were to get a pretty healthy chunk of cash, I would move to Northern Wyoming around the Tetons in a heartbeat. I loved Montana when I stayed there for a Summer, but Wyoming just felt better, more homey.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 5:48:58 PM EDT
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There's quite literally nothing in Wyoming.
If you can find a job that pays you to live in Wyoming and work there, good on you. At best, I can just commute there. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 5:59:28 PM EDT
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I would like to live in Montana and have a pick up truck. Youre a Texan. You should at least already have a truck. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 6:02:22 PM EDT
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Neither. People are rude, land is expensive and hard to come by, very few luxuries when living in a city, slow internet, bad cell phone reception, hunting is vastly over-rated, crime is under-rated, jobs are scarce, and 90% of both states is flat badlands no different than New Mexico or Nevada. As for the 10%, all those fancy pictures you see are merely that...pictures. Most of them photoshopped to enhance colors and "beauty". None of it actually looks like that. It's rugged mountains. Why in the world anyone would move there is beyond me. Winters are miserably cold, summers are garbage, fires are rampant, and you have to deal with all the nimrods that fall into the trap of believing it's pretty...or something. Take my advice - to the beach. There's no where good in Montana or Wyoming. You forgot the lions, pet eating wolves, and bears, week long blizzards, months of dust and no rain, half of Wyoming can't even grow grass unless you irrigate it. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 6:20:21 PM EDT
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Other than his last sentence and his percentage of "flat badlands", I mostly agree with him. He's right about the picture part, shit just look at Google Earth, not huge amount of green in those Sat photos, yet every picture shows there green mountain peaks etc. I'm not agreeing on the Photoshop part, just they cherry pick the pictures/parts of the State. My ex said she was shocked by the lack of old growth trees in MT, she actually preferred WY. My favorite was Flat Head lake/Valley, but I was told that because of the Lake, the winter sky is very gloomy and not clear. I know that after about two weeks, if I don't see some blue sky and Sun, we all seem the get mildly depressed. People up there seem to drink pretty hard too. I have an ex who moved up there for a guy, she was a city girl, scared of bugs, etc... She seems to be doing okay, but he has a fairly good paying job and she's working two jobs. People can read or hear all they want about a place, until they have made an attempt to live there, you never know. Everyone is different. I have a friend who misses Pittsburg winters, I think she's nuts lol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neither. People are rude, land is expensive and hard to come by, very few luxuries when living in a city, slow internet, bad cell phone reception, hunting is vastly over-rated, crime is under-rated, jobs are scarce, and 90% of both states is flat badlands no different than New Mexico or Nevada. As for the 10%, all those fancy pictures you see are merely that...pictures. Most of them photoshopped to enhance colors and "beauty". None of it actually looks like that. It's rugged mountains. Why in the world anyone would move there is beyond me. Winters are miserably cold, summers are garbage, fires are rampant, and you have to deal with all the nimrods that fall into the trap of believing it's pretty...or something. Take my advice - to the beach. There's no where good in Montana or Wyoming. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Other than his last sentence and his percentage of "flat badlands", I mostly agree with him. He's right about the picture part, shit just look at Google Earth, not huge amount of green in those Sat photos, yet every picture shows there green mountain peaks etc. I'm not agreeing on the Photoshop part, just they cherry pick the pictures/parts of the State. My ex said she was shocked by the lack of old growth trees in MT, she actually preferred WY. My favorite was Flat Head lake/Valley, but I was told that because of the Lake, the winter sky is very gloomy and not clear. I know that after about two weeks, if I don't see some blue sky and Sun, we all seem the get mildly depressed. People up there seem to drink pretty hard too. I have an ex who moved up there for a guy, she was a city girl, scared of bugs, etc... She seems to be doing okay, but he has a fairly good paying job and she's working two jobs. People can read or hear all they want about a place, until they have made an attempt to live there, you never know. Everyone is different. I have a friend who misses Pittsburg winters, I think she's nuts lol. You kind of sound like someone that doesn't have the testicular fortitude to live in Montana, no offense. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 6:46:09 PM EDT
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You forgot the lions, pet eating wolves, and bears, week long blizzards, months of dust and no rain, half of Wyoming can't even grow grass unless you irrigate it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neither. People are rude, land is expensive and hard to come by, very few luxuries when living in a city, slow internet, bad cell phone reception, hunting is vastly over-rated, crime is under-rated, jobs are scarce, and 90% of both states is flat badlands no different than New Mexico or Nevada. As for the 10%, all those fancy pictures you see are merely that...pictures. Most of them photoshopped to enhance colors and "beauty". None of it actually looks like that. It's rugged mountains. Why in the world anyone would move there is beyond me. Winters are miserably cold, summers are garbage, fires are rampant, and you have to deal with all the nimrods that fall into the trap of believing it's pretty...or something. Take my advice - to the beach. There's no where good in Montana or Wyoming. You forgot the lions, pet eating wolves, and bears, week long blizzards, months of dust and no rain, half of Wyoming can't even grow grass unless you irrigate it. No shit. Be prepared to see countless photos of wolves that maim a pregnant cow and launch into it's uterus to pull out the unborn calf...eat 5% then leave it all to die. Seriously...don't come here. Go to the beach. Montana, nor wyoming have beaches and sun and happiness. Wyoming, be prepared to travel to shop. Seriously. Unless you live in Casper or Cheyenne, you will get Wal Mart (maybe) and that's it. You'll have to drive several hours to get to anything that resembles society. While on that drive enjoy vast amounts of hills, endless amounts of antelope that want to charge your truck (suicide rate jokes go here too), a couple oil wells, and two lane roads with semis roaring along at 90mph while the speed limit is astonishingly 65mph unless you're on 90 or 25. Aren't as many places to shoot as you think, no ranges to play on, and the availability of anything besides your most basic, basic, BASIC firearms is non-existent with prices being retail + 20%. Like I said...go to the beach. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:31:15 PM EDT
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Never move to Montana freezing your ass off here is no joke
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:33:33 PM EDT
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My neighbor lived in Montana awhile. He's back now.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:36:10 PM EDT
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Montana is horrible. No jobs, terrible wages if you can find one, trannies everywhere and shitty drivers.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:36:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I lived in Wyoming for ~5 years. I really, really, really love the state. I'd live there now if I could, but the very things that make it so awesome, are some of the same things that make it nigh impossible for somebody in my profession to live there. There just isn't enough opportunity. Yup. No jobs at all. Icky womenz. Nothing but rednecks and tourists. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:38:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wyoming for sure. They are contained to Jackson. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which ever one has fewer Californians at any given point in time. Wyoming for sure. They are contained to Jackson. Well, and Casper, and the I80 corridor, Cheyenne, Laramie, Rock Springs, Evanston. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:39:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither. People are rude, land is expensive and hard to come by, very few luxuries when living in a city, slow internet, bad cell phone reception, hunting is vastly over-rated, crime is under-rated, jobs are scarce, and 90% of both states is flat badlands no different than New Mexico or Nevada. As for the 10%, all those fancy pictures you see are merely that...pictures. Most of them photoshopped to enhance colors and "beauty". None of it actually looks like that. It's rugged mountains. Why in the world anyone would move there is beyond me. Winters are miserably cold, summers are garbage, fires are rampant, and you have to deal with all the nimrods that fall into the trap of believing it's pretty...or something. Take my advice - to the beach. There's no where good in Montana or Wyoming. It's all true |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:40:04 PM EDT
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Youre a Texan. You should at least already have a truck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would like to live in Montana and have a pick up truck. Youre a Texan. You should at least already have a truck. Believe it or not, the percentage of vehicles on the road that are pickup trucks was higher in south Florida than it is in DFW. If I had a use for a truck, I'd own one, but I don't need it to drive back and forth to work. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:40:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having spent a lot of time in both states, I'd pick Montana. He's right you know |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:42:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is ranked #2 for suicides per capita. Wyoming is #1. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Montana is a terrible place. No one should come here. Well, it is ranked #2 for suicides per capita. Wyoming is #1. I know why. I am barely here and may not be tomorrow. I leave all my irrigating to the next poor sumbitch. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:42:27 PM EDT
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MT has no sales tax. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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they're about the same. WY has no state income tax, IIRC, so it has that going for it. MT has no sales tax. So just live on the border. Work in WY, do your shopping in MT. win-win! 
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:45:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I were to get a pretty healthy chunk of cash, I would move to Northern Wyoming around the Tetons in a heartbeat. I loved Montana when I stayed there for a Summer, but Wyoming just felt better, more homey. All the peons that like Jackson live in ID. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:45:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You forgot the lions, pet eating wolves, and bears, week long blizzards, months of dust and no rain, half of Wyoming can't even grow grass unless you irrigate it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Neither. People are rude, land is expensive and hard to come by, very few luxuries when living in a city, slow internet, bad cell phone reception, hunting is vastly over-rated, crime is under-rated, jobs are scarce, and 90% of both states is flat badlands no different than New Mexico or Nevada. As for the 10%, all those fancy pictures you see are merely that...pictures. Most of them photoshopped to enhance colors and "beauty". None of it actually looks like that. It's rugged mountains. Why in the world anyone would move there is beyond me. Winters are miserably cold, summers are garbage, fires are rampant, and you have to deal with all the nimrods that fall into the trap of believing it's pretty...or something. Take my advice - to the beach. There's no where good in Montana or Wyoming. You forgot the lions, pet eating wolves, and bears, week long blizzards, months of dust and no rain, half of Wyoming can't even grow grass unless you irrigate it. Or 80% |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:48:22 PM EDT
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Personally, I'd raise me up a crop of dental floss. Yessir. Raising it up, waxing it down...in a little white box that I could sell uptown, maybe? Ahh, that'd be the life. Just me and my pygmy pony, over by a dental floss bush. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would like to live in Montana and have a pick up truck. Will you raise rabbits? Personally, I'd raise me up a crop of dental floss. Yessir. Raising it up, waxing it down...in a little white box that I could sell uptown, maybe? Ahh, that'd be the life. Just me and my pygmy pony, over by a dental floss bush. 
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:49:09 PM EDT
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Montana is a terrible place. No one should come here. Same can be said about Wyoming. Nothing to see there, move along. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:50:28 PM EDT
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Both are beautiful places - but I couldn't handle the winters in either state.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:51:19 PM EDT
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Wyoming is great. Although all the pictures you see are pretty much from one region. I've lived here 10 years so far. I have 10 more years until I can retire. I'd like to move south and by the ocean. I'm sick of cold and snow.
The wind gusts around here can reach 100+ mph. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:53:28 PM EDT
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Same can be said about Wyoming. Nothing to see there, move along. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Montana is a terrible place. No one should come here. Same can be said about Wyoming. Nothing to see there, move along. Really though, I spent 10 or so years of my 24 year life in Wyoming. Met my wife there and we both desperately want to move back (Gillette/Sheridan area with a preference towards Sheridan because it's green). Unfortunately there are few jobs and with the coal mines all cutting back there's even fewer jobs. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:56:11 PM EDT
[#28]
Wyoming sucks you'd much prefer Montana
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:56:38 PM EDT
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Quote History Quoted:Wyoming is great. Although all the pictures you see are pretty much from one region. I've lived here 10 years so far. I have 10 more years until I can retire. I'd like to move south and by the ocean. I'm sick of cold and snow. The wind gusts around here can reach 100+ mph. This is WY elk hunting nowadays. The wolves have chased them into the sagebrush desert. Just barren and fucking cold. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 7:57:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I lived in Wyoming for ~5 years. I really, really, really love the state. I'd live there now if I could, but the very things that make it so awesome, are some of the same things that make it nigh impossible for somebody in my profession to live there. There just isn't enough opportunity. You could always grow dental floss. Beat me to it.  Living in MT, WY or ID your either independently wealthy or work for the govt, do something on the internet, or you become a jack of all trades. I made out guiding hunts and pulling mules, guiding fishing and float trips, logging, planting trees, working on forest fires, doing carpentry work, tending bar, cooking and other odd jobs.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:03:48 PM EDT
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No Vacancy
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:05:22 PM EDT
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Wy has lost population because Obama has succeeded in killing coal and Saudi has killed oil and gas. To make it more special, farm commodities are below the the cost of production. We have tourism and hunting. People are fleeing a sinking ship. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:07:07 PM EDT
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So just live on the border. Work in WY, do your shopping in MT. win-win!
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they're about the same. WY has no state income tax, IIRC, so it has that going for it. MT has no sales tax. So just live on the border. Work in WY, do your shopping in MT. win-win!
That's what Sheridan Wyoming does every weekend, spend it in Billings.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:09:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what Sheridan Wyoming does every weekend, spend it in Billings. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: they're about the same. WY has no state income tax, IIRC, so it has that going for it. MT has no sales tax. So just live on the border. Work in WY, do your shopping in MT. win-win! That's what Sheridan Wyoming does every weekend, spend it in Billings. . And the entire Big Horn Basin. There is no shopping in WY. Your wives will leave you. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:11:35 PM EDT
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And the entire Big Horn Basin. There is no shopping in WY. Your wives will leave you. I know. My Cousin is near Dayton. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:13:13 PM EDT
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I-25 turns into WY every weekend when Cheyenners go shopping
They even buy their guns here. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:17:34 PM EDT
[#37]
My new neighbors are from Wyoming ....Great folks and both hubby and wife like guns.
They are the kind of transplants to Virginia I wish there were a whole hell of a lot more of. Sadly they are the exception to the general transplant rule.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:18:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know. My Cousin is near Dayton. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And the entire Big Horn Basin. There is no shopping in WY. Your wives will leave you. I know. My Cousin is near Dayton. Yeah? My wife worked in Dayton. I am talking to a gal who works in Dayton. Grandkids play Dayton all the time in sports. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:20:16 PM EDT
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WYOMING welcomes YOU! Keep The High Ground, G |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:25:52 PM EDT
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Maybe even a rec-reashunal vehi-cul? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would like to live in Montana and have a pick up truck. Maybe even a rec-reashunal vehi-cul? You know, you might need two wives. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:26:59 PM EDT
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I'm guessing the pics of scenery on the internet only show the good parts. A large part of Wyoming is a barren waste land, not a tree for miles, with wind that never stops blowing. Seriously. The other part is owned by the Jackson billionaires. Yeah, want to live up that way, but those winds in Wyoming, you can keep them. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:33:29 PM EDT
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Both Eastern Wyoming and Eastern Montana are rough, pretty flat, the wind blows a lot and mountains are almost non-existent.
There are way more mountains in Western Montana, and a lot more property in those areas for sale. I like Wyoming but Montana beats it hands down. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:34:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, want to live up that way, but those winds in Wyoming, you can keep them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm guessing the pics of scenery on the internet only show the good parts. A large part of Wyoming is a barren waste land, not a tree for miles, with wind that never stops blowing. Seriously. The other part is owned by the Jackson billionaires. Yeah, want to live up that way, but those winds in Wyoming, you can keep them. Yeep. Hasn't got above 50 all week. Snowed a few times. And I am at 4450 elevation. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:38:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:41:11 PM EDT
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Montana is a terrible place. No one should come here. qft |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:42:36 PM EDT
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My Mom was born in MT and I have family there. Growing up we would go to MT every other summer. I love MT, will have house and retire there in the future.
WY is nearly a barren wasteland. Interstate has signs that says no services for 70 miles. Better not be on empty. The pretty parts of WY are Yellowstone and the Teton areas and that's only like 1/10 th of the state. MT can be pretty barren too. About 1/2 the state is like WY. |
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:44:27 PM EDT
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Being born and raised in Montana then moving to work in Wyoming for several years......you should look into North Dakota.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:46:38 PM EDT
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I wonder how much real estate is along the coast of Mexico?
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:47:27 PM EDT
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WY and MT are a myth created by Hollywood and the hunting magazines. There is no there there.
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Posted: 4/27/2016 8:48:17 PM EDT
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Neither. People are rude, land is expensive and hard to come by, very few luxuries when living in a city, slow internet, bad cell phone reception, hunting is vastly over-rated, crime is under-rated, jobs are scarce, and 90% of both states is flat badlands no different than New Mexico or Nevada. As for the 10%, all those fancy pictures you see are merely that...pictures. Most of them photoshopped to enhance colors and "beauty". None of it actually looks like that. It's rugged mountains. Why in the world anyone would move there is beyond me. Winters are miserably cold, summers are garbage, fires are rampant, and you have to deal with all the nimrods that fall into the trap of believing it's pretty...or something. Take my advice - to the beach. There's no where good in Montana or Wyoming. Well, except maybe for Browning, an outsider moving there might feel welcome. |
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