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I noticed that they have tarps provided. Did they do that last season? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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After seeing the swag list, their choices make much more sense. No wonder nobody picked a tarp Yes. There are bunches of vids on youtube with the guys saying what they picked and why. They all had extra stuff besides those things. I think Mitch's video even says they gave them 2 tarps. |
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I just watched the last episode.
Allen is tall son of a gun. Walking into his house he is almost as tall as his door frame. He has to be like 6'8". |
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Thanks for posting. I watched a few episodes of the first season last night on their website. |
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I just watched the last episode. Allen is tall son of a gun. Walking into his house he is almost as tall as his door frame. He has to be like 6'8". In the show they said he is 6'3. Weird. I'm 6'2" and if his front door is the same size as mine, he looks like he is about 6" taller than me. I'm looking at it frozen on my TV right now. |
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I was a fan of the last series "Alone" on the History channel. The man who won deserved it in spades. Alan was a Woodsman's woodsman. My hat's off to him. The current crop for Alone, Season 2 looks...not so good. That's just going on a cursory examination of their dossier, but moreso their choice of 10 items. I gather and assume that there are a few things that are not counted against them on their 10 items. A tarp being chief among them. A pack, is obvious. Camera gear goes without saying, according to the necessities of the style of production. (they self film). There are 2.5 women. No, 3 but one sure appears to be a switch hitter. Has a nice fat reserve built up and is familiar with flannel. Flying by the seat of my pants, only 3 have chosen a tarp as one of their choices. More than one have chosen 2 "emergency rations". IMHO, if you cant feed yourself, you've already lost. I guess the strategy could be that you'd outlast the others on that modest amount of extra food. One female AK native chose pemmican which looked to be substantial. It would be a tempting choice to have a week's worth of food. One fellow had the ubiquitous knife, axe, saw, but added a "multi function wood working tool"....WTF is that? I will never understand choosing a folding or bow saw when presented the choice of a saw. A real x cut is the only choice. Even a knife is suspect, when given the environment. A properly chosen axe can take care of most tasks. A flint chip in a wooden handle more than takes care of the detail work. I was really hoping the last season would attract people who knew their shit. I think I'll be disappointed with this season if for no other reason than the contestants had a previous season to learn from and it certainly appears from their choices that they didn't. I hope I'm wrong. Looks like they offer a contest where you pick the succession of drop outs. Maybe I'll print out a spread sheet and made some guesses. List of contestants/gear View Quote Coming from you, I guess I'm going to have to check it out. The problem with television today is it's all a hodgepodge of the same stuff. A lot of good shows probably slip through the cracks unnoticed. |
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Hey Ridgerunner, did you apply to be on the show? I thought you mentioned that you might apply last year.
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Question. How are they getting their batteries charged up for the cameras? Do they ever tell how that happens?
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View Quote Yup..seen his stuff and it's impressive |
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Sweet! Thanks OP I didn't realize this was coming back again. We loved the first season, hope this one is as good.
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After seeing the swag list, their choices make much more sense. No wonder nobody picked a tarp View Quote no sunglasses can be taken? fuck that would be brutal for me. |
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Alan stated "the participants must abide by all local hunting and fishing laws while they live on Vancouver Island." But then the British Columbia wildlife manager said they had been given resident permits to hunt and fish and that "where you're going it's fairly simple. There's not a lot of diversity. Maybe deer. There's black bears, there's wolves. There's cougars." Sounds like a green-light to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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1. Are they allowed to kill a bear? That seems like the way to go; setting a trap, etc. Then when they show up you're wearing a bearskin and eating bear jerky. Alan stated "the participants must abide by all local hunting and fishing laws while they live on Vancouver Island." But then the British Columbia wildlife manager said they had been given resident permits to hunt and fish and that "where you're going it's fairly simple. There's not a lot of diversity. Maybe deer. There's black bears, there's wolves. There's cougars." Sounds like a green-light to me. I hope someone can put an arrow in something substantial. I know I saw at least one bow as part of the gear selection during the premier. Sitting down behind a natural blind is a pretty low energy way to pass some time. |
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The size of a few of them is what is intriguing to me as well...some of them are pretty thin. The two finalists last time had a couple things in common. Disposition and size. [bold]Dude that dropped the ferro rod and said "fuck it!" was hilarious to me...dude...you have fire already...suck it up. [/bold] They have full hunting and fishing rights...not sure if bear is included in that. Would assume so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I just started watching the show (turned my cable back on after having it off 1 year)...actually tuned in to see the last 1/2 of the last episode of season 1. Are they allowed to kill a bear? That seems like the way to go; setting a trap, etc. Then when they show up you're wearing a bearskin and eating bear jerky. I was surprised that the guy who won, won in so few days (56 if I remember). He does seem like a stand-up guy. Good for him. I saw the next show where the contestants for season 2 were shown. I was surprised that some of them went into this "lean and mean." I'd make it a point to be in shape BUT put on an additional 20-25 pounds of fat before going in. I too was surprised to see people pick an axe...and a saw. Show looks to be interesting so I'll be watching this season. The size of a few of them is what is intriguing to me as well...some of them are pretty thin. The two finalists last time had a couple things in common. Disposition and size. [bold]Dude that dropped the ferro rod and said "fuck it!" was hilarious to me...dude...you have fire already...suck it up. [/bold] They have full hunting and fishing rights...not sure if bear is included in that. Would assume so. The lost fire steel guy just quitting really opened my eyes. He is a well known and respected instructor, gear designer and guru over on BushcraftUSA. From all the knives and gear he's designed, classes taught and YouTube videos made I was sure he would be one of the last. I was shocked at how he went out with a whimper. I view almost all "survival instructors" with a very cynical eye these days. Three are certainly some out there who can walk the walk, but for a lot of them I think it's mostly talk (If you can only demonstrate skills under controlled conditions then you're a talker in my estimation). |
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Not as up on my alternative lifestyle titles as I should be, maybe. A lesbian, I guess. We'll see how she does. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That smoke jumper is going to go nuts just being in a place without screaming kids. And who are you'all talking about the transgender person? The heavyset Air Force lady? She seems clearly female to me. Not as up on my alternative lifestyle titles as I should be, maybe. A lesbian, I guess. We'll see how she does. I honestly thought that was a man. |
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After seeing the swag list, their choices make much more sense. No wonder nobody picked a tarp no sunglasses can be taken? fuck that would be brutal for me. Seemed like an odd restriction to me, too. Polarized sunglasses help you see fish in the water.....plus there is no sun up there anyway so you don't need them to protect your eyes. |
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Thanks for starting this thread! I've never heard of this show before but watched the first couple episodes of season 1 last night. Great show!
I love camping and did quite a bit growing up, but I would bail like the first guy if I had bears sniffing me right outside my crappy tarp tent. That area is brutal and only for the most experienced woodsman. IMHO, the risk to your life is pretty huge trying to survive out there with all those big predators and not worth some cash prize that isn't even enough to live on for the rest of your life. I'm almost surprised nobody got eaten. They dropped that first guy off right next to a family of bears sitting up in trees! Nowhere to hide from that! |
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I was a fan of the last series "Alone" on the History channel. The man who won deserved it in spades. Alan was a Woodsman's woodsman. My hat's off to him. The current crop for Alone, Season 2 looks...not so good. That's just going on a cursory examination of their dossier, but moreso their choice of 10 items. I gather and assume that there are a few things that are not counted against them on their 10 items. A tarp being chief among them. A pack, is obvious. Camera gear goes without saying, according to the necessities of the style of production. (they self film). There are 2.5 women. No, 3 but one sure appears to be a switch hitter. Has a nice fat reserve built up and is familiar with flannel. Flying by the seat of my pants, only 3 have chosen a tarp as one of their choices. More than one have chosen 2 "emergency rations". IMHO, if you cant feed yourself, you've already lost. I guess the strategy could be that you'd outlast the others on that modest amount of extra food. One female AK native chose pemmican which looked to be substantial. It would be a tempting choice to have a week's worth of food. One fellow had the ubiquitous knife, axe, saw, but added a "multi function wood working tool"....WTF is that? I will never understand choosing a folding or bow saw when presented the choice of a saw. A real x cut is the only choice. Even a knife is suspect, when given the environment. A properly chosen axe can take care of most tasks. A flint chip in a wooden handle more than takes care of the detail work. I was really hoping the last season would attract people who knew their shit. I think I'll be disappointed with this season if for no other reason than the contestants had a previous season to learn from and it certainly appears from their choices that they didn't. I hope I'm wrong. Looks like they offer a contest where you pick the succession of drop outs. Maybe I'll print out a spread sheet and made some guesses. List of contestants/gear View Quote The thing you have to remember is that at the end of the day this is reality TV. If everyone on the show was a highly competent survivalist the show would be pretty boring. Some degree of incompetence is required so that the show has some drama. |
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I was a fan of the last series "Alone" on the History channel. The man who won deserved it in spades. Alan was a Woodsman's woodsman. My hat's off to him. The current crop for Alone, Season 2 looks...not so good. That's just going on a cursory examination of their dossier, but moreso their choice of 10 items. I gather and assume that there are a few things that are not counted against them on their 10 items. A tarp being chief among them. A pack, is obvious. Camera gear goes without saying, according to the necessities of the style of production. (they self film). There are 2.5 women. No, 3 but one sure appears to be a switch hitter. Has a nice fat reserve built up and is familiar with flannel. Flying by the seat of my pants, only 3 have chosen a tarp as one of their choices. More than one have chosen 2 "emergency rations". IMHO, if you cant feed yourself, you've already lost. I guess the strategy could be that you'd outlast the others on that modest amount of extra food. One female AK native chose pemmican which looked to be substantial. It would be a tempting choice to have a week's worth of food. One fellow had the ubiquitous knife, axe, saw, but added a "multi function wood working tool"....WTF is that? I will never understand choosing a folding or bow saw when presented the choice of a saw. A real x cut is the only choice. Even a knife is suspect, when given the environment. A properly chosen axe can take care of most tasks. A flint chip in a wooden handle more than takes care of the detail work. I was really hoping the last season would attract people who knew their shit. I think I'll be disappointed with this season if for no other reason than the contestants had a previous season to learn from and it certainly appears from their choices that they didn't. I hope I'm wrong. Looks like they offer a contest where you pick the succession of drop outs. Maybe I'll print out a spread sheet and made some guesses. List of contestants/gear The thing you have to remember is that at the end of the day this is reality TV. If everyone on the show was a highly competent survivalist the show would be pretty boring. Some degree of incompetence is required so that the show has some drama. I actually disagree. That would be true if they were in a softer place, like a warm beach with lots of food and little danger, but in the spot where they are even the most competent survivalist will struggle. I'm watching the first season now and they all seem like legit contestants. Nobody added for comedy/drama factor. Just reading this thread does sound like they added some people for entertainment value for the second season. I think that will just increase the chances somebody gets hurt . . . but maybe thats what they're aiming for. :( |
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I just started watching the show (turned my cable back on after having it off 1 year)...actually tuned in to see the last 1/2 of the last episode of season 1. Are they allowed to kill a bear? That seems like the way to go; setting a trap, etc. Then when they show up you're wearing a bearskin and eating bear jerky. I was surprised that the guy who won, won in so few days (56 if I remember). He does seem like a stand-up guy. Good for him. I saw the next show where the contestants for season 2 were shown. I was surprised that some of them went into this "lean and mean." I'd make it a point to be in shape BUT put on an additional 20-25 pounds of fat before going in. I too was surprised to see people pick an axe...and a saw. Show looks to be interesting so I'll be watching this season. The size of a few of them is what is intriguing to me as well...some of them are pretty thin. The two finalists last time had a couple things in common. Disposition and size. [bold]Dude that dropped the ferro rod and said "fuck it!" was hilarious to me...dude...you have fire already...suck it up. [/bold] They have full hunting and fishing rights...not sure if bear is included in that. Would assume so. The lost fire steel guy just quitting really opened my eyes. He is a well known and respected instructor, gear designer and guru over on BushcraftUSA. From all the knives and gear he's designed, classes taught and YouTube videos made I was sure he would be one of the last. I was shocked at how he went out with a whimper. I view almost all "survival instructors" with a very cynical eye these days. Three are certainly some out there who can walk the walk, but for a lot of them I think it's mostly talk (If you can only demonstrate skills under controlled conditions then you're a talker in my estimation). LOL Those that can, do Those that can't, teach |
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LOL Those that can, do Those that can't, teach Reading those bios, this season seems to be chock full of people listing instructing as part of their skillsets Yeah. Those woods are a place where you're not going to fake it. I've never been to the PNW, but I have done my share of foul/cold weather primitive camping. Everything is more difficult. Every. Thing. And, even though I enjoy the cold, that dark, gloomy, dampness will get to you after a bit. If those folks don't have real world, real conditions experience they'll fall like flies. Just like the first several on last season. It might be a matter of the phenomenon of humans being able to convince themselves they are much better than they actually are. I've done this sort of thing for along time and I'm certain that living up there like that will/would be a stone cold bitch at the very least. |
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If you paid attention during the first season, what you know is only a small part of it. They all knew what to do to survive. The ones that lasted had something you can't measure and there is no way to know if you have it until you are there. Allen won, he was the smartest, but he had the most to eat. Sam was probably the toughest mentally. He was in a daze from lack of food and still lasted 4 more days. The show went from day 50 with him just staring into nothing to horrible storms constantly blowing against his shelter. He gave up on day 54. If Sam had moved his shelter into the woods to get protection from the wind and had found a source of food like the kelp Allen ate everyday, there is no tell how long they would have lasted. View Quote Agree with all of that. Sam was missing his wife and looming delivery of his baby, too. That had to be huge for a young fella like that. I remember my dad leaving for a deer hunting trip. I was maybe six. He was supposed to be gone for a week and I was in the driveway crying and waving as he left. (my dad was God, Daniel Boone, and Hercules all in one, as far as I was concerned as a kid). He came back the next day. Years later, we were talking about it and he said something like "I was on that stand thinking I'd much rather be with my little boy. So...I came home". Now that I have had a son that age, I totally get where his head was. Was watching a video produced by some of the world's elite ice climbers who'd done it all. They were sitting in a snow cave. Each admitted they'd rather be home with their family and head back the next day. |
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Those woods are a place where you're not going to fake it. I've never been to the PNW, but I have done my share of foul/cold weather primitive camping. Everything is more difficult. Every. Thing. And, even though I enjoy the cold, that dark, gloomy, dampness will get to you after a bit. View Quote Cold? Damp? Wet? Gloomy? Hey , sounds like HERE! They practically kill a virgin to celebrate on the rare days that sunlight makes an appearance |
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I watched the show every episode last season and will do the same this season. I love this genre and dearly wish I had the skill set.
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