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Posted: 2/14/2016 6:11:29 AM EDT
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So. Explain his comments about placing his leftist sister on the bench and all of his leftist policy ideas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP you will need to get over the pain.......Trump will be our next President we don't need the left placing Obama on the bench as a justice His sister is a republican and appears to always have been, she was also appointed as a federal judge by Ronald Reagan...And from all accounts is a good judge..........only issue I found is she is pro abortion..but many are today.... |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 6:16:13 AM EDT
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OP thanks for the links
don't forget the 20+ scuds I dfodged in Kuwait and the 250 tons of yellow cake we gave to Canada - link |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 6:43:30 AM EDT
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Wanna know how I know you know nothing about chemical warfare? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. Arty shells with mustard gas and Sarin maybe not so much...that is very World War One. Limited area of effect. Biological warheads or dispersal systems may be WMD, nukes yeah no argument. The Tsarnaev brothers' pressure cooker full of ball bearings and explosives was ruled in the US as a WMD. By that criteria a Bofors 40mm or 250lb JDAM would be WMDs. We have dropped a shitton of WMDs since 2003 amirite? Try again, pal. Wanna know how I know you know nothing about chemical warfare? Wanna know how I know he has no clue about WMDs? |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 9:56:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's one thing to kick their ass, it's another to try to change their culture. Both occupations were beyond retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Who fucking cares. Invading Iraq was retarded. Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. Invading no. Staying there? It's one thing to kick their ass, it's another to try to change their culture. Both occupations were beyond retarded. Their was a reason for the occupation of Iraq.  |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 9:58:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's my take on the whole shitty situation: Did Sadam have WMDs? Sure, he used them against the Kurds. Did he aspire to nukes? I'm sure but how much work and research went in that direction other than wishful thinking? Who knows? Was Sadam a bad guy? Sure, fucked his own people and ruled with an iron fist but he was our guy when he was fighting Iran. Was he a stabilizing force in Iraq and the region? Over all, yes. He kept shit in line and people were afraid of him. Should we have killed him off? If we had rolled into Baghdad in 1991 then no problem but to do it 20 years later under the guise of 9/11 was BS Is Trump an idiot I don't trust? Sure is but if I am forced to choose between him or Hillary or Bernie I will hold my nose and do it. It appears that you have put some actual thought into this. That is unacceptable here. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:09:28 AM EDT
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I remember when the NY times reported there were no chemical weapons and bush and Cheney made it up in order to start a war. Times have changed. This^^^^^^ along with all the DEMOCRAPS saying "Bush lied, Bush lied" Stick a tampon in your fucking mangina and pick a stance, assholes |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:14:42 AM EDT
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This^^^^^^ along with all the DEMOCRAPS saying "Bush lied, Bush lied" Stick a tampon in your fucking mangina and pick a stance, assholes Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I remember when the NY times reported there were no chemical weapons and bush and Cheney made it up in order to start a war. Times have changed. This^^^^^^ along with all the DEMOCRAPS saying "Bush lied, Bush lied" Stick a tampon in your fucking mangina and pick a stance, assholes Do you like GWB or something lol? |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:26:30 AM EDT
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Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who fucking cares. Invading Iraq was retarded. Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. Agree on both. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:28:00 AM EDT
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Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who fucking cares. Invading Iraq was retarded. Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. It was lol. CERTAINLY occupying Afghanistan was retarded. What's even more retarded is doing NOTHING about Islamic immigration because of PC feelz and "that's not who we are guys!!" Go fuck yourself GWB. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:29:15 AM EDT
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Everybody knew they had pre-1991 chemical shells right up to the invasion, not really what was referred to for the WMD justification for an invasion. People are now being disingenuous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. Everybody knew they had pre-1991 chemical shells right up to the invasion, not really what was referred to for the WMD justification for an invasion. People are now being disingenuous. Correct. They are spinning the truth in an obvious way, and what is worse: they act like someone should believe the spin. As stated, old Chem warheads were known about. The weapons that Bush and Powell (who later regretted his famous pointer speech) claimed were there... weren't. Bush was going to use any justification to attack Iraq, which played no role in 9/11. The entire debacle is a blight on American history that cost U.S. lives, gave us Obama, and spent trillions of our dollars for absolutely no gain. Those are the facts and in that regard, whatever someone thinks of Trump, he is absolutely correct. Trying to twist those facts is indeed disingenuous. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:31:03 AM EDT
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I saw the following excellent documentary about WMD's in Iraq. I highly recommend it! 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:32:45 AM EDT
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Why do Trump supporters chant "butthurt" in any thread where Trump is painted as less than perfect? Headline: Trump Factually wrong Trumper: LOL. Butthurt! I'm butthurt because Trump is wrong? I don't get it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Butthurt Max. LOL Why do Trump supporters chant "butthurt" in any thread where Trump is painted as less than perfect? Headline: Trump Factually wrong Trumper: LOL. Butthurt! I'm butthurt because Trump is wrong? I don't get it. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Because it doesn't matter if he's wrong, he's still winning for now. I voted for Cruz so don't blame me. 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:33:14 AM EDT
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Can I ask what it feels like when your guy spouts the exact same talking points left wingers have used against R's for the past 12-14 years? It's gotta feel pretty shitty right. I mean it's word for word. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wasn't the reason for the invasion something to do with yellow cake uranium and the fear of a nuclear program? Nobody has ever denied Iraq had mustard gas and Sarin gas shells in the past. He used them against the Kurds and against the Iranians. '13er seems to be confused with history. Can I ask what it feels like when your guy spouts the exact same talking points left wingers have used against R's for the past 12-14 years? It's gotta feel pretty shitty right. I mean it's word for word. What's a guy located in Australia doing butting into a US presidential election thread? Or are you just lying about where your actual location is? |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:33:50 AM EDT
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We have members here that fucking found them! He is full of shit. 
If they had found them, they would have been sold on the EE. 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:34:19 AM EDT
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Invading no. Staying there? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who fucking cares. Invading Iraq was retarded. Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. Invading no. Staying there? Nation building in the M.E./Afghanistan......Those boys that thought that was a good idea were dumber than a bag of $300.00 hammers. Sadly there is still politicians/.mil that thought it was/is a good idea that are still running things. 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:41:10 AM EDT
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Correct. They are spinning the truth in an obvious way, and what is worse: they act like someone should believe the spin. As stated, old Chem warheads were known about. The weapons that Bush and Powell (who later regretted his famous pointer speech) claimed were there... weren't. Bush was going to use any justification to attack Iraq, which played no role in 9/11. The entire debacle is a blight on American history that cost U.S. lives, gave us Obama, and spent trillions of our dollars for absolutely no gain. Those are the facts and in that regard, whatever someone thinks of Trump, he is absolutely correct. Trying to twist those facts is indeed disingenuous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. Everybody knew they had pre-1991 chemical shells right up to the invasion, not really what was referred to for the WMD justification for an invasion. People are now being disingenuous. Correct. They are spinning the truth in an obvious way, and what is worse: they act like someone should believe the spin. As stated, old Chem warheads were known about. The weapons that Bush and Powell (who later regretted his famous pointer speech) claimed were there... weren't. Bush was going to use any justification to attack Iraq, which played no role in 9/11. The entire debacle is a blight on American history that cost U.S. lives, gave us Obama, and spent trillions of our dollars for absolutely no gain. Those are the facts and in that regard, whatever someone thinks of Trump, he is absolutely correct. Trying to twist those facts is indeed disingenuous. I dont think most are being disingenuous, they just don't remember the details of what Powel said was going on... mobile manufacturing facilities... modernized dispersion vehicles etc.. Those were never found. Most of the stuff that was found was supplied by our side to fight Iran. It would look really bad if they paraded chemical weapons used against the iranians, because we were giving them tens of billions of dollars to buy the stuff. not to mention it would bolster Irans justification for their nuclear arms goals. I recall the pentagon doing a hush job to cover up veterans who got fucked up when they come into contact with iran war era chems.. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:44:43 AM EDT
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I dont think most are being disingenuous, they just don't remember the details of what Powel said was going on... mobile manufacturing facilities... modernized dispersion vehicles etc.. Those were never found. Most of the stuff that was found was supplied by our side to fight Iran. It would look really bad if they paraded chemical weapons used against the iranians, because we were giving them tens of billions of dollars to buy the stuff. I recall the pentagon doing a hush job to cover up veterans who got fucked up when they come into contact with iran war era chems.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. Everybody knew they had pre-1991 chemical shells right up to the invasion, not really what was referred to for the WMD justification for an invasion. People are now being disingenuous. Correct. They are spinning the truth in an obvious way, and what is worse: they act like someone should believe the spin. As stated, old Chem warheads were known about. The weapons that Bush and Powell (who later regretted his famous pointer speech) claimed were there... weren't. Bush was going to use any justification to attack Iraq, which played no role in 9/11. The entire debacle is a blight on American history that cost U.S. lives, gave us Obama, and spent trillions of our dollars for absolutely no gain. Those are the facts and in that regard, whatever someone thinks of Trump, he is absolutely correct. Trying to twist those facts is indeed disingenuous. I dont think most are being disingenuous, they just don't remember the details of what Powel said was going on... mobile manufacturing facilities... modernized dispersion vehicles etc.. Those were never found. Most of the stuff that was found was supplied by our side to fight Iran. It would look really bad if they paraded chemical weapons used against the iranians, because we were giving them tens of billions of dollars to buy the stuff. I recall the pentagon doing a hush job to cover up veterans who got fucked up when they come into contact with iran war era chems.. I also suspect they spent years being attacked by liberals over the Iraq war and defended it passionately at the time, and the idea that those liberals were correct leaves a VERY bitter taste in their collectives mouths. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:47:49 AM EDT
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Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who fucking cares. Invading Iraq was retarded. Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. agreed on both counts. lets face it, the whole reason we invaded both is we believed that islam is a religion of peace and if we just removed the current government, lockean democracies would spring up because islam is a wonderful, beautiful religion responsible for science and art. the underlying assumption (fed to us by neo cons and guys like grover norquist) was that muslims want to be just like us. we never acknowledged why they are killing us. we lied to ourselves and everyone else, spent billions of dollars, got 8000 good men killed and find ourselves internationally in a worse position than when we started. what would be a better position to keep america safe? banning muslims from coming in or invading iraq and afghanistan? remove the feels and answer the question. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:48:40 AM EDT
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I also suspect they spent years being attacked by liberals over the Iraq war and defended it passionately at the time, and the idea that those liberals were correct leaves a VERY bitter taste in their collectives mouths. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. Everybody knew they had pre-1991 chemical shells right up to the invasion, not really what was referred to for the WMD justification for an invasion. People are now being disingenuous. Correct. They are spinning the truth in an obvious way, and what is worse: they act like someone should believe the spin. As stated, old Chem warheads were known about. The weapons that Bush and Powell (who later regretted his famous pointer speech) claimed were there... weren't. Bush was going to use any justification to attack Iraq, which played no role in 9/11. The entire debacle is a blight on American history that cost U.S. lives, gave us Obama, and spent trillions of our dollars for absolutely no gain. Those are the facts and in that regard, whatever someone thinks of Trump, he is absolutely correct. Trying to twist those facts is indeed disingenuous. I dont think most are being disingenuous, they just don't remember the details of what Powel said was going on... mobile manufacturing facilities... modernized dispersion vehicles etc.. Those were never found. Most of the stuff that was found was supplied by our side to fight Iran. It would look really bad if they paraded chemical weapons used against the iranians, because we were giving them tens of billions of dollars to buy the stuff. I recall the pentagon doing a hush job to cover up veterans who got fucked up when they come into contact with iran war era chems.. I also suspect they spent years being attacked by liberals over the Iraq war and defended it passionately at the time, and the idea that those liberals were correct leaves a VERY bitter taste in their collectives mouths. They should just keep in mind all the bullshit the liberals defended when Obama fucked up. The progressives are a bunch of lying shitbags for the most part. Those who defended Bush got played for the most part. I don't think the folks who defend Obama have that excuse. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:49:02 AM EDT
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Yes, it would be much better to have Trump put his Marxist Federal Judge sister on the Court.
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OP you will need to get over the pain.......Trump will be our next President we don't need the left placing Obama on the bench as a justice Yes, it would be much better to have Trump put his Marxist Federal Judge sister on the Court.
which he never said he would do. and trumps the liar? |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:49:50 AM EDT
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OP thanks for the links don't forget the 20+ scuds I dfodged in Kuwait and the 250 tons of yellow cake we gave to Canada - link 
did you die? |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:50:45 AM EDT
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Pardon my ignorance but are WMD's really just some old chemical shells?
I dont remember them finding VX or nuclear based items. Is there some clarification on what exactly was found and on what level it would be considered a WMD? |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:51:51 AM EDT
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What's a guy located in Australia doing butting into a US presidential election thread? Or are you just lying about where your actual location is? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wasn't the reason for the invasion something to do with yellow cake uranium and the fear of a nuclear program? Nobody has ever denied Iraq had mustard gas and Sarin gas shells in the past. He used them against the Kurds and against the Iranians. '13er seems to be confused with history. Can I ask what it feels like when your guy spouts the exact same talking points left wingers have used against R's for the past 12-14 years? It's gotta feel pretty shitty right. I mean it's word for word. What's a guy located in Australia doing butting into a US presidential election thread? Or are you just lying about where your actual location is? You guys shouldn't bitch about your reputations, you've earned it. Think that's bad, wait till you see all the Afghans and Somalis on here!
May come as a surprise some people leave mom's basement and pursue work plus other interests along the way. Sometimes that involves going to foreign countries. ETA: My vote counts just as much as yours 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:53:30 AM EDT
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. Can you name one presidential (or congressional) candidate that doesn't lie his ass off ??? I won't hold my breath. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:54:16 AM EDT
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You guys shouldn't bitch about your reputations, you've earned it. Think that's bad, wait till you see all the Afghans and Somalis on here!
May come as a surprise some people leave mom's basement and pursue work plus other interests along the way. Sometimes that involves going to foreign countries. ETA: My vote counts just as much as yours
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Wasn't the reason for the invasion something to do with yellow cake uranium and the fear of a nuclear program? Nobody has ever denied Iraq had mustard gas and Sarin gas shells in the past. He used them against the Kurds and against the Iranians. '13er seems to be confused with history. Can I ask what it feels like when your guy spouts the exact same talking points left wingers have used against R's for the past 12-14 years? It's gotta feel pretty shitty right. I mean it's word for word. What's a guy located in Australia doing butting into a US presidential election thread? Or are you just lying about where your actual location is? You guys shouldn't bitch about your reputations, you've earned it. Think that's bad, wait till you see all the Afghans and Somalis on here!
May come as a surprise some people leave mom's basement and pursue work plus other interests along the way. Sometimes that involves going to foreign countries. ETA: My vote counts just as much as yours
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:55:38 AM EDT
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Bald.BALD. BAAALD. it's bold faced, not bald faced or bawled faced or bowled face. "So and so tells his most male pattern baldness faced lie" Actually it's a bare face lie. 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:58:21 AM EDT
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Pardon my ignorance but are WMD's really just some old chemical shells? I dont remember them finding VX or nuclear based items. Is there some clarification on what exactly was found and on what level it would be considered a WMD? there were WMDs in Iraq. But not the scale that was claimed (at least they weren't found). the ultimate lesson learned is that saddam hussein was actually a moderate muslim. Iraq was less of a threat with him in charge than with "the people" in charge or Iran in charge. ponder that for a moment. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 10:59:22 AM EDT
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your vote is all empty carbs. Like everyone else's? Sure. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:00:30 AM EDT
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Breaking news.....Politicians lie
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:00:54 AM EDT
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OP you will need to get over the pain.......Trump will be our next President we don't need the left placing Obama on the bench as a justice What makes you think Trump won't? |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:00:58 AM EDT
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All WMD arguments are the equivalent of two dogs barking at each other through a fence.
There is no agreed upon definition of what a WMD is, so no one can ever be right or wrong about what was where and when. It's a convenient distraction when our overlords need one. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:01:24 AM EDT
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Bald.BALD. BAAALD. it's bold faced, not bald faced or bawled faced or bowled face. "So and so tells his most male pattern baldness faced lie" Actually it's a bare face lie.
But all three are acceptable. Source Irregardles
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:03:35 AM EDT
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your vote is all empty carbs. Like everyone else's? Sure. Everyone else but me. I have been told many times If I don't vote, the world will end. It is a heavy burden. ETa I dont like Trump. I have always felt that politics was akin to professional wrestling. Now I am told the political savior of America is an ex professional wrestler. I feel my experience with politics has come full circle. lol |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:04:34 AM EDT
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Everyone else but me. I have been told many times If I don't vote, the world will end. It is a heavy burden. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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your vote is all empty carbs. Like everyone else's? Sure. Everyone else but me. I have been told many times If I don't vote, the world will end. It is a heavy burden. lol |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:15:55 AM EDT
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This guy gets it...
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. This guy gets it...
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:19:50 AM EDT
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So, the question is, does Trump not know what he's talking about, or did he lie?
I think t could go either way, and both are scary. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:38:00 AM EDT
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Who fucking cares. Invading Iraq was retarded. Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. Invading no. Staying there? Heroin? |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:43:07 AM EDT
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From the NYT article. Old rusty munitions is not a WMD program. "All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them." But don't let that stop the shills from using this for their propaganda. Oh look we found a dozen rusty chemical shells buried for 20 years. Yep Iraq had WMDs. 
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:45:15 AM EDT
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From the NYT article. Old rusty munitions is not a WMD program. "All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them." But don't let that stop the shills from using this for their propaganda. Oh look we found a dozen rusty chemical shells buried for 20 years. Yep Iraq had WMDs. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/09/22/iraq/assets/images/chemvet-lake-640.jpg So scary! Definitely worth 5,000 of our soldiers lives, 30,000 injured, and $2 trillion in the hole At least we spread freedom! Oh wait |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:51:14 AM EDT
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From the NYT article. Old rusty munitions is not a WMD program. "All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them." But don't let that stop the shills from using this for their propaganda. Oh look we found a dozen rusty chemical shells buried for 20 years. Yep Iraq had WMDs. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/09/22/iraq/assets/images/chemvet-lake-640.jpg Tell that to the Kurds. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:52:19 AM EDT
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So scary! Definitely worth 5,000 of our soldiers lives, 30,000 injured, and $2 trillion in the hole At least we spread freedom! Oh wait Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From the NYT article. Old rusty munitions is not a WMD program. "All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them." But don't let that stop the shills from using this for their propaganda. Oh look we found a dozen rusty chemical shells buried for 20 years. Yep Iraq had WMDs. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/09/22/iraq/assets/images/chemvet-lake-640.jpg So scary! Definitely worth 5,000 of our soldiers lives, 30,000 injured, and $2 trillion in the hole At least we spread freedom! Oh wait If that's your argument, the counter is that all the good stuff went out to Syria as the blitz made its way during the initial invasion. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:53:27 AM EDT
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If that's your argument, the counter is that all the good stuff went out to Syria as the blitz made its way during the initial invasion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From the NYT article. Old rusty munitions is not a WMD program. "All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them." But don't let that stop the shills from using this for their propaganda. Oh look we found a dozen rusty chemical shells buried for 20 years. Yep Iraq had WMDs. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/09/22/iraq/assets/images/chemvet-lake-640.jpg So scary! Definitely worth 5,000 of our soldiers lives, 30,000 injured, and $2 trillion in the hole At least we spread freedom! Oh wait If that's your argument, the counter is that all the good stuff went out to Syria as the blitz made its way during the initial invasion. Face it - the war in Iraq was a disaster. We have absolutely nothing to show for it. Nothing. I don't care that Bush was in charge. Still not going to defend a stupid position because he has an "R" next to his name. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:54:06 AM EDT
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From the NYT article. Old rusty munitions is not a WMD program. "All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them." But don't let that stop the shills from using this for their propaganda. Oh look we found a dozen rusty chemical shells buried for 20 years. Yep Iraq had WMDs. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/09/22/iraq/assets/images/chemvet-lake-640.jpg Tell that to the Kurds. That chemical attack on the Kurds happened in 1988. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:55:21 AM EDT
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Face it - the war in Iraq was a disaster. We have absolutely nothing to show for it. Nothing. I don't care that Bush was in charge. Still not going to defend a stupid position because he has an "R" next to his name. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From the NYT article. Old rusty munitions is not a WMD program. "All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them." But don't let that stop the shills from using this for their propaganda. Oh look we found a dozen rusty chemical shells buried for 20 years. Yep Iraq had WMDs. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/09/22/iraq/assets/images/chemvet-lake-640.jpg So scary! Definitely worth 5,000 of our soldiers lives, 30,000 injured, and $2 trillion in the hole At least we spread freedom! Oh wait If that's your argument, the counter is that all the good stuff went out to Syria as the blitz made its way during the initial invasion. Face it - the war in Iraq was a disaster. We have absolutely nothing to show for it. Nothing. I don't care that Bush was in charge. Still not going to defend a stupid position because he has an "R" next to his name. Great WMD argument tactic. Make a new statement/claim without addressing the previous one. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:56:39 AM EDT
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Who fucking cares. Invading Iraq was retarded. Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. Not only was both Iraq and Afghanistan retarded, so was Vietnam. Neocons can howl all they want, but Trump came all over the establishment's face last night, and they deserved every drop of it.
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:58:38 AM EDT
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Who fucking cares. Invading Iraq was retarded. Well if you're saying that, invading Afghanistan was retarded, too. Not only was both Iraq and Afghanistan retarded, so was Vietnam. Neocons can howl all they want, but Trump came all over the establishment's face last night, and they deserved every drop of it. vietnam was not retarded. what was retarded was surrendering in '75 because the liberals told us to. communism as an ideology required a different strategy than islam. domino was correct (as shown in Cambodia and Laos) and was the stated and published strategy of the soviet union to forward global communism. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 11:59:04 AM EDT
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. The WMD's that they led us to believe that were there, were nukes. Let's be honest here. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:01:25 PM EDT
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. The WMD's that they led us to believe that were there, were nukes. Let's be honest here. 'They' never led you to believe shit. They coined a term that could be warped into whatever anyone wanted. The perfect distraction. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:04:50 PM EDT
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'They' never led you to believe shit. They coined a term that could be warped into whatever anyone wanted. The perfect distraction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. The WMD's that they led us to believe that were there, were nukes. Let's be honest here. 'They' never led you to believe shit. They coined a term that could be warped into whatever anyone wanted. The perfect distraction. Well, this too. |
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Posted: 2/14/2016 12:14:32 PM EDT
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The WMD's that they led us to believe that were there, were nukes. Let's be honest here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"There were no WMD in Iraq" Yea well, your buddies in the NY Times disagree with you on that one. CIA secretly gathering Iraqi chemical weapons in Iraq in 2006 This is just the tip of the iceberg the NY Times found out about. 2.4k chemical warheads found in just one stash Fuck that lying piece of shit. The WMD's that they led us to believe that were there, were nukes. Let's be honest here. It was clever in a sort of "neuro-linguistic programming" way how they grouped chemical weapons in there with nukes as WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Chemical weapons are nothing compared to nukes. Chemical weapons were responsible for about 1% of the total casualties in World War I despite the fact they were used liberally throughout the entire war. Nukes (and we're talking primitive nukes too. Fission bombs are nothing compared to thermonuclear weapons) ended World War II in three days. |
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