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Posted: 2/13/2016 3:38:14 AM EDT
PASADENA, Calif., Feb. 12 (UPI) -- New research suggests sea level rise has been stunted or hidden by the uptake of water by land. Much of the more abstract and complex branches of science -- astronomy, geology, climatology -- involves working to get theoretical models to play nicely with concrete measurements. That's been a problem for climate scientists who've found a disconnect with the levels of glacier melting and sea level rise. New data has helped scientists explain the discrepancy. Changes in weather and climate have precipitated an uptake in land-based water storage. At least 20 percent of the water released by melting glaciers is being contained in soils, lakes and underground aquifers. .... "We always assumed that people's increased reliance on groundwater for irrigation and consumption was resulting in a net transfer of water from the land to the ocean," lead study author J.T. Reager, a researcher with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said in a press release. "What we didn't realize until now is that over the past decade, changes in the global water cycle more than offset the losses that occurred from groundwater pumping, causing the land to act like a sponge." "These new data are vital for understanding variations in sea level change," Reager continued. "The information will be a critical complement to future long-term projections of sea level rise, which depend on melting ice and warming oceans." Full Story So those maps of the US being a giant lake by 2020 were wrong? 
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Posted: 2/13/2016 3:41:09 AM EDT
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Interesting.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 3:43:14 AM EDT
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Wait what???
The earth is not turning into a giant desert. Global warming, erhhh global climate change, has numbers that were faked Say it isn't so. Sadly I am sure Al Whore will get to keep all of that money he made pimpin' climate change, and carbon credits. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 3:44:48 AM EDT
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So the science isn't settled after all eh?
Guess those Australian climatologists should be asking for their jobs back |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 3:48:29 AM EDT
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It makes sense.
But what I want to know is what the fuck NASA Jet Lab has to do with this? Shouldn't they you know, be working out a way to re invent the way to send people into space. What the fuck is wrong with our country folks? |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 3:48:40 AM EDT
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But but, save the polar bears
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Posted: 2/13/2016 3:56:36 AM EDT
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That is freaking awesome. Tag to read up about this. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:00:35 AM EDT
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Don't worry, they'll soon come out with a rebuttal and excuse.
"The reason we didn't realize this earlier is because the republicans cut our funding!" |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:01:26 AM EDT
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so hysterical politicians and millenials are ignorant assholes? who knew..
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:05:24 AM EDT
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The new thing the usual suspects are trying to push now is that all of the satellite data is no good.
They're not going to quit. They can't, because they know what people are going to do when they realize how much time and money has been wasted. Quoted:
so hysterical politicians and millenials are ignorant assholes? who knew.. Look at how many of those hysterical politicians jet around the world whenever they please. Pretty much all of them. Assholes, yes, but it's not ignorance, it's dishonesty and malice. Not one of them actually acts like this is a problem. It's all about money and power. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:10:49 AM EDT
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Op, who the heck is UPI? They don't cite to any legitimate source. They mention legitimate sources but there is nothing that lets me believe the story is even true.
It could be true but without some kind of support it s nothing more than a fat pimply faced kid in a basement writing a post for his website. Quoted:
PASADENA, Calif., Feb. 12 (UPI) -- New research suggests sea level rise has been stunted or hidden by the uptake of water by land. Much of the more abstract and complex branches of science -- astronomy, geology, climatology -- involves working to get theoretical models to play nicely with concrete measurements. That's been a problem for climate scientists who've found a disconnect with the levels of glacier melting and sea level rise. New data has helped scientists explain the discrepancy. Changes in weather and climate have precipitated an uptake in land-based water storage. At least 20 percent of the water released by melting glaciers is being contained in soils, lakes and underground aquifers. .... "We always assumed that people's increased reliance on groundwater for irrigation and consumption was resulting in a net transfer of water from the land to the ocean," lead study author J.T. Reager, a researcher with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said in a press release. "What we didn't realize until now is that over the past decade, changes in the global water cycle more than offset the losses that occurred from groundwater pumping, causing the land to act like a sponge." "These new data are vital for understanding variations in sea level change," Reager continued. "The information will be a critical complement to future long-term projections of sea level rise, which depend on melting ice and warming oceans." Full Story So those maps of the US being a giant lake by 2020 were wrong? |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:14:24 AM EDT
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Guess the hydrologists have made themselves known. Backflow, bitches!
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:15:06 AM EDT
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Op, who the heck is UPI? They don't cite to any legitimate source. They mention legitimate sources but there is nothing that lets me believe the story is even true. It could be true but without some kind of support it s nothing more than a fat pimply faced kid in a basement writing a post for his website. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Op, who the heck is UPI? They don't cite to any legitimate source. They mention legitimate sources but there is nothing that lets me believe the story is even true. It could be true but without some kind of support it s nothing more than a fat pimply faced kid in a basement writing a post for his website. Quoted:
PASADENA, Calif., Feb. 12 (UPI) -- New research suggests sea level rise has been stunted or hidden by the uptake of water by land. Much of the more abstract and complex branches of science -- astronomy, geology, climatology -- involves working to get theoretical models to play nicely with concrete measurements. That's been a problem for climate scientists who've found a disconnect with the levels of glacier melting and sea level rise. New data has helped scientists explain the discrepancy. Changes in weather and climate have precipitated an uptake in land-based water storage. At least 20 percent of the water released by melting glaciers is being contained in soils, lakes and underground aquifers. .... "We always assumed that people's increased reliance on groundwater for irrigation and consumption was resulting in a net transfer of water from the land to the ocean," lead study author J.T. Reager, a researcher with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said in a press release. "What we didn't realize until now is that over the past decade, changes in the global water cycle more than offset the losses that occurred from groundwater pumping, causing the land to act like a sponge." "These new data are vital for understanding variations in sea level change," Reager continued. "The information will be a critical complement to future long-term projections of sea level rise, which depend on melting ice and warming oceans." Full Story So those maps of the US being a giant lake by 2020 were wrong? You've never heard of UPI? |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:18:22 AM EDT
[#13]
No shit. Al Gore is a scam artist, and people are stupid.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:20:16 AM EDT
[#14]
and crude oil is not dinosaurs either
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:28:39 AM EDT
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So why do people dependent on deep wells have to keep drilling deeper all the time to get water. It doesn't add up. It takes hundreds of years to replenish water hundreds of feet down.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:45:24 AM EDT
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So the expected rise in sea levels has been perfectly offset by increased aquifer recharge from precipitation that would have otherwise been dumped back into the oceans via runoff to rivers. And this is because our aquifers are depleted and are acting like a "sponge". Interesting that they don't cite any data from state agencies that monitor and regulate groundwater resources to back up their claim of increasing aquifer storage.
As a professional hydrogeologist, you can color me skeptical. Sounds like NASA is desperately looking for an explanation why sea levels aren't rising as predicted. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 4:49:42 AM EDT
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So why do people dependent on deep wells have to keep drilling deeper all the time to get water. It doesn't add up. It takes hundreds of years to replenish water hundreds of feet down. Yep. The article paints a very broad and inaccurate picture. It's almost silly. Aquifers don't refill overnight. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 5:24:06 AM EDT
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So why do people dependent on deep wells have to keep drilling deeper all the time to get water. It doesn't add up. It takes hundreds of years to replenish water hundreds of feet down. Gravity. Water fills from the bottom up. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 5:26:17 AM EDT
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Yep. The article paints a very broad and inaccurate picture. It's almost silly. Aquifers don't refill overnight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So why do people dependent on deep wells have to keep drilling deeper all the time to get water. It doesn't add up. It takes hundreds of years to replenish water hundreds of feet down. Yep. The article paints a very broad and inaccurate picture. It's almost silly. Aquifers don't refill overnight. Any Farm hick dealing with water for a living, could testify. Many did, but were discounted by the academics, intellectuals, and other fucktards chosen to know better. Yet here we are. Just as predicted, by those with practical knowledge, rather than theoretical. Suck 40 cocks, and put mommy and daddy in debt for 50k, and kids are going to follow the message that pays...I get it.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 5:28:28 AM EDT
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Op, who the heck is UPI? They don't cite to any legitimate source. They mention legitimate sources but there is nothing that lets me believe the story is even true. It could be true but without some kind of support it s nothing more than a fat pimply faced kid in a basement writing a post for his website. Science journal isn't legitimate enough? The link is right there in the article. http://science.sciencemag.org/content/351/6274/699 |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 5:31:35 AM EDT
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It makes sense. But what I want to know is what the fuck NASA Jet Lab has to do with this? Shouldn't they you know, be working out a way to re invent the way to send people into space. What the fuck is wrong with our country folks? Since the experiment used a pair of satellites to collect this data it's pretty obvious why NASA were involved... |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 5:47:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since the experiment used a pair of satellites to collect this data it's pretty obvious why NASA were involved... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It makes sense. But what I want to know is what the fuck NASA Jet Lab has to do with this? Shouldn't they you know, be working out a way to re invent the way to send people into space. What the fuck is wrong with our country folks? Since the experiment used a pair of satellites to collect this data it's pretty obvious why NASA were involved... |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 5:53:33 AM EDT
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Science journal isn't legitimate enough? The link is right there in the article. http://science.sciencemag.org/content/351/6274/699 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Op, who the heck is UPI? They don't cite to any legitimate source. They mention legitimate sources but there is nothing that lets me believe the story is even true. It could be true but without some kind of support it s nothing more than a fat pimply faced kid in a basement writing a post for his website. Science journal isn't legitimate enough? The link is right there in the article. http://science.sciencemag.org/content/351/6274/699 The same bunch of fags, had us ass deep in flooding by now. They follow the cocks to suck and grant $$. Science isn't the problem. Bone smuggling faggots with Aspergers and bills to pay are. Today, you can get any outcome of any study you want, if you pay enough. We have a surplus of of Marxist indoctrinated scientists, that are heavily in debt, and all the convictions of a house cat in heat. Better credentialed liars, have never existed. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 6:06:22 AM EDT
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and crude oil is not dinosaurs either I never met any sane person who thought oil was dinosaurs. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 6:19:25 AM EDT
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Who has never heard of UPI?
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Posted: 2/13/2016 6:23:32 AM EDT
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The new thing the usual suspects are trying to push now is that all of the satellite data is no good. They're not going to quit. They can't, because they know what people are going to do when they realize how much time and money has been wasted. Look at how many of those hysterical politicians jet around the world whenever they please. Pretty much all of them. Assholes, yes, but it's not ignorance, it's dishonesty and malice. Not one of them actually acts like this is a problem. It's all about money and power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The new thing the usual suspects are trying to push now is that all of the satellite data is no good. They're not going to quit. They can't, because they know what people are going to do when they realize how much time and money has been wasted. Quoted:
so hysterical politicians and millenials are ignorant assholes? who knew.. Look at how many of those hysterical politicians jet around the world whenever they please. Pretty much all of them. Assholes, yes, but it's not ignorance, it's dishonesty and malice. Not one of them actually acts like this is a problem. It's all about money and power. They're not going to quit because it helps them gain power and control. It's 100% about power and control, nothing else. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 6:28:06 AM EDT
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So the science isn't settled after all eh? Guess those Australian climatologists should be asking for their jobs back There is nothing in that story questioning rising temperatures, and the story indicates that people researching climate change follow where the facts point them. That's how science works. Make assumptions, test assumptions, adjust assumptions based on tests. Wash, rinse, repeat. It sure would be deliciously ironic if rising global temperatures turns out to actually help solve fresh water shortage problems - makes me wonder exactly where this water is. Regardless, places like Tuvalu are definitely very interested in knowing the reality of what is going on with sea levels. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 6:32:20 AM EDT
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Who has never heard of UPI? This is GD, we don't do "mainstream," and prefer "news" that just cites other "news" which itself cites other "news." |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 6:32:45 AM EDT
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tag.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 7:20:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2016 7:27:49 AM EDT
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Wait! What? You mean when it rains, water soaks into the GROUND?
Yes, simplified version but the sentiment remains. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 7:29:23 AM EDT
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I am of the considered opinion that the people who spout off about the "scientific proof" of AGW are among the biggest idiots who ever lived.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 8:32:08 AM EDT
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Good new. But this doesn't mean that we can just stop taking care of our planet!
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Posted: 2/13/2016 8:55:47 AM EDT
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I find it incredibly arrogant to believe that human activity can result in any long term global condition change. We don't have that much power. We couldn't change climate if we wanted. Period.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 9:11:20 AM EDT
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Any Farm hick dealing with water for a living, could testify. Many did, but were discounted by the academics, intellectuals, and other fucktards chosen to know better. Yet here we are. Just as predicted, by those with practical knowledge, rather than theoretical. Suck 40 cocks, and put mommy and daddy in debt for 50k, and kids are going to follow the message that pays...I get it.
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So why do people dependent on deep wells have to keep drilling deeper all the time to get water. It doesn't add up. It takes hundreds of years to replenish water hundreds of feet down. Yep. The article paints a very broad and inaccurate picture. It's almost silly. Aquifers don't refill overnight. Any Farm hick dealing with water for a living, could testify. Many did, but were discounted by the academics, intellectuals, and other fucktards chosen to know better. Yet here we are. Just as predicted, by those with practical knowledge, rather than theoretical. Suck 40 cocks, and put mommy and daddy in debt for 50k, and kids are going to follow the message that pays...I get it.
I like you. 
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Posted: 2/13/2016 9:15:13 AM EDT
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so hysterical politicians and millenials are ignorant assholes? who knew.. Something tells me that it wasn't millenials who have been pumping out junk science for decades. 
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Posted: 2/13/2016 9:16:27 AM EDT
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What does NASA say? Because I get all of my science news from NASA...and Bill Nye the science guy.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 9:17:46 AM EDT
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Second post nails it.
I was taught this back in about the 4th grade......early 60's . Guess there wasn't much money in it at the time though. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 9:25:24 AM EDT
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The same bunch of fags, had us ass deep in flooding by now. They follow the cocks to suck and grant $$. Science isn't the problem. Bone smuggling faggots with Aspergers and bills to pay are. Today, you can get any outcome of any study you want, if you pay enough. We have a surplus of of Marxist indoctrinated scientists, that are heavily in debt, and all the convictions of a house cat in heat. Better credentialed liars, have never existed. Solid Gold Nugget right here.  
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:36:36 AM EDT
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So is the earth still flat.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:43:36 AM EDT
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Science journal isn't legitimate enough? The link is right there in the article. http://science.sciencemag.org/content/351/6274/699 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Op, who the heck is UPI? They don't cite to any legitimate source. They mention legitimate sources but there is nothing that lets me believe the story is even true. It could be true but without some kind of support it s nothing more than a fat pimply faced kid in a basement writing a post for his website. Science journal isn't legitimate enough? The link is right there in the article. http://science.sciencemag.org/content/351/6274/699 He means it's not CNN or FOX news. You know, "legitimate" news sources.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:45:53 AM EDT
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What? All that property I bought down on the fall line won't be beach front?
Ima sue!
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:50:31 AM EDT
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So why do people dependent on deep wells have to keep drilling deeper all the time to get water. It doesn't add up. It takes hundreds of years to replenish water hundreds of feet down. The aquifer here rose 56 feet in three days last spring. 
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:55:39 AM EDT
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There is nothing in that story questioning rising temperatures, and the story indicates that people researching climate change follow where the facts point them. That's how science works. Make assumptions, test assumptions, adjust assumptions based on tests. Wash, rinse, repeat. It sure would be deliciously ironic if rising global temperatures turns out to actually help solve fresh water shortage problems - makes me wonder exactly where this water is. Regardless, places like Tuvalu are definitely very interested in knowing the reality of what is going on with sea levels. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the science isn't settled after all eh? Guess those Australian climatologists should be asking for their jobs back There is nothing in that story questioning rising temperatures, and the story indicates that people researching climate change follow where the facts point them. That's how science works. Make assumptions, test assumptions, adjust assumptions based on tests. Wash, rinse, repeat. It sure would be deliciously ironic if rising global temperatures turns out to actually help solve fresh water shortage problems - makes me wonder exactly where this water is. Regardless, places like Tuvalu are definitely very interested in knowing the reality of what is going on with sea levels. But, that's not how THIS "science" works. There was no follow on and those who asked "why?" were called heretics and terrorists, fired from their positions and villified. This "settled science" became a jihad against anyone who dared question the paradigm. TC |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:56:43 AM EDT
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It makes sense. But what I want to know is what the fuck NASA Jet Lab has to do with this? Shouldn't they you know, be working out a way to re invent the way to send people into space. What the fuck is wrong with our country folks? JPL is a science and engineering research organization, almost a university absent the retards. The name describes part of its mission. Someone has to perform solid and useful work. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:57:41 AM EDT
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Op, who the heck is UPI? They don't cite to any legitimate source. They mention legitimate sources but there is nothing that lets me believe the story is even true. It could be true but without some kind of support it s nothing more than a fat pimply faced kid in a basement writing a post for his website. You never heard of United Press International? Are you joking? DId you even read the article? Maybe you missed this part the citing of the Source? Maybe the pimply faced kid you speak of is John Reager from Jet propulsion Lab, who co-authored the cited article that was linked to? "The experiment's latest data allowed scientists to locate the missing glacial water their climate models and polar readings predicted. The new findings were published in the journal Science." There is even a link to the Science article. Have you not heard of Science AAAS? A decade of sea level rise slowed by climate-driven hydrology J. T. Reager1,*, A. S. Gardner1, J. S. Famiglietti1,2, D. N. Wiese1, A. Eicker3, M.-H. Lo4 + Author Affiliations ?*Corresponding author. E-mail: [email protected] Science 12 Feb 2016: Vol. 351, Issue 6274, pp. 699-703 DOI: 10.1126/science.aad8386 |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 10:59:01 AM EDT
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God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number;
fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground." It's almost as if there were well designed feedback control loop systems built into the planet. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 11:00:30 AM EDT
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Science that involves Politics, Religion, or Anti-Religion pretty much gets ignored by me. I don't know which scientists to believe and don't trust any of it.
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Posted: 2/13/2016 11:00:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You've never heard of UPI? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Op, who the heck is UPI? They don't cite to any legitimate source. They mention legitimate sources but there is nothing that lets me believe the story is even true. It could be true but without some kind of support it s nothing more than a fat pimply faced kid in a basement writing a post for his website. Quoted: PASADENA, Calif., Feb. 12 (UPI) -- New research suggests sea level rise has been stunted or hidden by the uptake of water by land. Much of the more abstract and complex branches of science -- astronomy, geology, climatology -- involves working to get theoretical models to play nicely with concrete measurements. That's been a problem for climate scientists who've found a disconnect with the levels of glacier melting and sea level rise. New data has helped scientists explain the discrepancy. Changes in weather and climate have precipitated an uptake in land-based water storage. At least 20 percent of the water released by melting glaciers is being contained in soils, lakes and underground aquifers. .... "We always assumed that people's increased reliance on groundwater for irrigation and consumption was resulting in a net transfer of water from the land to the ocean," lead study author J.T. Reager, a researcher with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said in a press release. "What we didn't realize until now is that over the past decade, changes in the global water cycle more than offset the losses that occurred from groundwater pumping, causing the land to act like a sponge." "These new data are vital for understanding variations in sea level change," Reager continued. "The information will be a critical complement to future long-term projections of sea level rise, which depend on melting ice and warming oceans." Full Story So those maps of the US being a giant lake by 2020 were wrong? You've never heard of UPI? No shit, next he'll say he's never heard of the AP. |
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Posted: 2/13/2016 11:04:59 AM EDT
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Op, who the heck is UPI? Moonies. |
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