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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:34:01 AM EDT
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Christians vs Atheists
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:34:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If people actually adhered to religious beliefs of Christianity and Judiasm we would have a more stable society. Personally I'd just as soon sleep in on Sunday, but the rest of you should go. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: America's biggest social problem is the disintegration of the family through children with one parent and divorce. Who does this? Overwhelming Christians. Atheists marry later, divorce less and have less children in single parent households, same with Jews. But facing up to one's own moral failings is uncomfortable, so an outside enemy has to be found, so it's the Jews, Gays and Atheists, and ranting about Jews and Gays is tough to get away with these days so who's left as a scapegoat? Not sure if serious or that's real retarded sir  That first sentence I couldn't agree with more, and I'm a Christian, the other thing to take into consideration is that there are vast numbers of people who say "I'm a christian" when asked but probably don't have a clue what it really means to follow Christ. Sure Christians get divorced and commit all kinds of sins, EVERYONE does. But TRUE Christians will be working hard to stay married, fight temptation and "human nature", etc. We all struggle with things we want to change. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:43:49 AM EDT
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Rabid atheists are everywhere today and they all seem intent on demonizing Christianity at every opportunity while at the same time giving Islam a free pass on just about everything and continually making excuses with respect to the barbaric practices conducted by the not so minority of those that follow that religion. Nonsense, we slam all of them equally. The difference is that you were nodding along when we pointed out the insanity in Islam, and shouting in impotent rage when your fantasy was on the block. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:46:00 AM EDT
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I know more than a few that rationalize the issues we have with Islam as a result of the west being involved in the M.E. and supporting Israel. Their argument is that if stayed away, we wouldn't have these issues. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rabid atheists are everywhere today and they all seem intent on demonizing Christianity at every opportunity while at the same time giving Islam a free pass on just about everything and continually making excuses with respect to the barbaric practices conducted by the not so minority of those that follow that religion. None of the atheists I know give Islam a pass at all. In fact Islam is normally their go to example of the problems which come with imposing religious beliefs. Far more so than Christianity. I know more than a few that rationalize the issues we have with Islam as a result of the west being involved in the M.E. and supporting Israel. Their argument is that if stayed away, we wouldn't have these issues. That's not atheism talking, but liberalism or ignorance. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:46:01 AM EDT
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Atheists have always been the most mouthy of all the people I know. In this thread we find out who the rabid atheists are. They are the ones that are going to get all pissy about the term "rabid" as it applies to this thread lol. It's a troll thread started by a Christian to shit on atheists. Look at the beam in your own people's eye. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:49:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no issues with most Atheist here, but some really do go out of their way to make an ass of themselves. At first I thought maybe school was out or something Some of them are a total embarrassment to the rest of us. Most of us quiet non-believers regard those guys like open carry chipotle guys. There are "those guys" in every group. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:52:48 AM EDT
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Godless heathens
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:57:20 AM EDT
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As a Christian, I think OP just really likes to have atheist/Christian argument threads.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:59:01 AM EDT
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It the "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT MEEEEEEE" thing.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 9:59:39 AM EDT
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Godless heathens Who? Atheists? By definition, literally yes. A heathen is somone who doesn't identify with a mainstream religion. An atheist is someone who does not believe in a theological deity and is therefore godless |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:00:01 AM EDT
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It's a troll thread started by a Christian to shit on atheists. Look at the beam in your own people's eye. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Atheists have always been the most mouthy of all the people I know. In this thread we find out who the rabid atheists are. They are the ones that are going to get all pissy about the term "rabid" as it applies to this thread lol. It's a troll thread started by a Christian to shit on atheists. Look at the beam in your own people's eye. It's certainly not the first troll thread this particular Christian has started either. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:08:06 AM EDT
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It the "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT MEEEEEEE" thing. Again, who started this thread? |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:10:08 AM EDT
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Again, who started this thread? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It the "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT MEEEEEEE" thing. Again, who started this thread? god? |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:10:15 AM EDT
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Easy way to look 'smart'. Lot's of people here need the boost. It's fashionable to be atheist these days. Just watch TV once in a while. You will see. Well there is my problem I think in the last 5 years I may have watched 1 hr of regular TV and that would be the news while sitting in a hotel lobby area. I typically watch one hr show on a Friday and one movie Saturday night. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:14:25 AM EDT
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Atheism is the fastest growing "religious" demographic in America. When the baby boom generation dies off it might well become the largest. Even today, most self declared Christians give that answer out of reflex or convenience rather than out of any real faith. Most cannot even begin to tell you what it is they actually claim to believe-- beyond vague generalities at any rate. And even the fanatics take their religion cafeteria style, picking out their favorite bits while leaving the majority behind. When confronted with the 90% of the bible they conveniently ignore they are quick to proclaim that Jesus totally changed all that (despite his direct statement to the contrary) or that those sections are merely parables or instructional fables -- apparently forgetting that they would murder you for expressing that exact opinion not so very long ago.
And that's why they are dying out. There are NO questions for which religion provides a better answer than science. Barring some new "revelation" the god of Abraham spoke his final words two thousand years ago. At that time his universe was a very small place indeed, and his ignorant pronouncements reflected this (the imaginary Jesus character, being unaware of germs, even advised against hand washing before meals). Even so, that god might have had something interesting to say, but his human inventors didn't know any better or care if they did. He was always just a tool for confidence men, first an angry menace demanding blood sacrifice and lavish gifts for his earthly servants, to the new-age love guru of today who still apparently needs your love-offering of cash to keep his ministry going. But it's all going away now. Soon, very soon, the Jesus billboards will be coming down (or perhaps left to rot like a cancerous reminder), the churches will be shuttered, and declarations of religious faith will be met with eye rolls and amusement. And the world will be a better place for it. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:21:02 AM EDT
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lol @ persecution complex fakirs |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:22:18 AM EDT
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There are NO questions for which religion provides a better answer than science. How should I behave towards my fellow man? Science doesn't deal with philosophy or ethics. It's a complete amoral framework. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:22:22 AM EDT
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I think this thread is a result of OP's argument that god steals dogs from people earlier than they are supposed to die since he wants to hang out with them. That was pretty silly. That thread was a great example of Atheist shitting in a thread. If you read that thread you would realize that it saddens me when I see a member here lose there beloved dog. Was it really that hard to see the real meaning in that thread? |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:23:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Atheism is the fastest growing "religious" demographic in America. When the baby boom generation dies off it might well become the largest. Even today, most self declared Christians give that answer out of reflex of convenience rather than out of any real faith. Most cannot even begin to tell you what it is they actually claim to believe-- beyond vague generalities at any rate. And even the fanatics take their religion cafeteria style, picking out their favorite bits while leaving the majority behind. When confronted with the 90% of the bible they conveniently ignore they are quick to proclaim that Jesus totally changed all that (despite his direct statement to the contrary) or that those sections are merely parables or instructional fables -- apparently forgetting that they would murder you for expressing that exact opinion not so very long ago. And that's why they are dying out. There are NO questions for which religion provides a better answer than science. Barring some new "revelation" the god of Abraham spoke his final words two thousand years ago. At that time his universe was a very small place indeed, and his ignorant pronouncements reflected this (the imaginary Jesus character, being unaware of germs, even advised against hand washing before meals). Even so, that god might have had something interesting to say, but his human inventors didn't know any better or care if they did. He was always just a tool for confidence men, first an angry menace demanding blood sacrifice and lavish gifts for his earthly servants, to the new-age love guru of today who still apparently needs your love-offering of cash to keep his ministry going. But it's all going away now. Soon, very soon, the Jesus billboards will be coming down (or perhaps left to rot like a cancerous reminder), the churches will be shuttered, and declarations of religious faith will be met with eye rolls and amusement. And the world will be a better place for it. I think you kind of pass over some important parts of religion even though it's not my thing |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:23:42 AM EDT
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because we have forgotten about godless commies.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:24:40 AM EDT
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That thread was a great example of Atheist shitting in a thread. If you read that thread you would realize that it saddens me when I see a member here lose there beloved dog. Was it really that hard to see the real meaning in that thread? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think this thread is a result of OP's argument that god steals dogs from people earlier than they are supposed to die since he wants to hang out with them. That was pretty silly. That thread was a great example of Atheist shitting in a thread. If you read that thread you would realize that it saddens me when I see a member here lose there beloved dog. Was it really that hard to see the real meaning in that thread? Wait a minute...........you posted what he said in so many words but meant it differently...............? In all fairness, it would be nice to have that explained. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:25:02 AM EDT
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lol @ persecution complex fakirs It's an interesting case. The religion was founded on martyrdom, martyrdom has been extolled for the entire history of Christianity, and the text itself claims that it is good to be persecuted. So in a country where the majority of the population is Christian and has historically been in the position which does the prosecuting, you get this strange conundrum. Being persecuted is good, but there aren't any opportunities in my home to be persecuted, so something feels likes its missing. You can leave your home and go where you will be prosecuted, but that's hard and very inconvenient. Much better to search real hard for any persecution you can find here. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:25:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: Why are there so many Rabid Atheist in GD Lately?  |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:28:34 AM EDT
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That thread was a great example of Atheist shitting in a thread. If you read that thread you would realize that it saddens me when I see a member here lose there beloved dog. Was it really that hard to see the real meaning in that thread? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think this thread is a result of OP's argument that god steals dogs from people earlier than they are supposed to die since he wants to hang out with them. That was pretty silly. That thread was a great example of Atheist shitting in a thread. If you read that thread you would realize that it saddens me when I see a member here lose there beloved dog. Was it really that hard to see the real meaning in that thread? Dogs are awesome. Being sad when a dog dies is normal. Saying god steals them "early" because they are so cool is something a mother tells her 5 year old kid to make him feel better about death. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:29:45 AM EDT
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Some of them are a total embarrassment to the rest of us. Most of us quiet non-believers regard those guys like open carry chipotle guys. There are "those guys" in every group. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have no issues with most Atheist here, but some really do go out of their way to make an ass of themselves. At first I thought maybe school was out or something Some of them are a total embarrassment to the rest of us. Most of us quiet non-believers regard those guys like open carry chipotle guys. There are "those guys" in every group. Yes there are, I take no issue with someone who does not believe or can honestly say I don't know. The ones who are on a mission every chance they get do indeed make all atheist look bad. I tend to be a smart ass in general and rip on everyone, apparently some cant handle that. In truth if I don't like someone I just ignore them. My life it too short to waste it on them. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:29:47 AM EDT
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Some article I read yesterday said 50% of 18-33 year olds describe themselves as not being religious I think you kind of pass over some important parts of religion even though it's not my thing Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Atheism is the fastest growing "religious" demographic in America. When the baby boom generation dies off it might well become the largest. Even today, most self declared Christians give that answer out of reflex of convenience rather than out of any real faith. Most cannot even begin to tell you what it is they actually claim to believe-- beyond vague generalities at any rate. And even the fanatics take their religion cafeteria style, picking out their favorite bits while leaving the majority behind. When confronted with the 90% of the bible they conveniently ignore they are quick to proclaim that Jesus totally changed all that (despite his direct statement to the contrary) or that those sections are merely parables or instructional fables -- apparently forgetting that they would murder you for expressing that exact opinion not so very long ago. And that's why they are dying out. There are NO questions for which religion provides a better answer than science. Barring some new "revelation" the god of Abraham spoke his final words two thousand years ago. At that time his universe was a very small place indeed, and his ignorant pronouncements reflected this (the imaginary Jesus character, being unaware of germs, even advised against hand washing before meals). Even so, that god might have had something interesting to say, but his human inventors didn't know any better or care if they did. He was always just a tool for confidence men, first an angry menace demanding blood sacrifice and lavish gifts for his earthly servants, to the new-age love guru of today who still apparently needs your love-offering of cash to keep his ministry going. But it's all going away now. Soon, very soon, the Jesus billboards will be coming down (or perhaps left to rot like a cancerous reminder), the churches will be shuttered, and declarations of religious faith will be met with eye rolls and amusement. And the world will be a better place for it. I think you kind of pass over some important parts of religion even though it's not my thing bernie sanders and atheism, a new sciencey future for america. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:34:53 AM EDT
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Dogs are awesome. Being sad when a dog dies is normal. Saying god steals them "early" because they are so cool is something a mother tells her 5 year old kid to make him feel better about death. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think this thread is a result of OP's argument that god steals dogs from people earlier than they are supposed to die since he wants to hang out with them. That was pretty silly. That thread was a great example of Atheist shitting in a thread. If you read that thread you would realize that it saddens me when I see a member here lose there beloved dog. Was it really that hard to see the real meaning in that thread? Dogs are awesome. Being sad when a dog dies is normal. Saying god steals them "early" because they are so cool is something a mother tells her 5 year old kid to make him feel better about death. And its blasphemy. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:35:11 AM EDT
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How should I behave towards my fellow man? Science doesn't deal with philosophy or ethics. It's a complete amoral framework. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are NO questions for which religion provides a better answer than science. How should I behave towards my fellow man? Science doesn't deal with philosophy or ethics. It's a complete amoral framework. Your question deserves a better answer than I have time to type here. Instead I will link to perhaps one of the truly great debates on the topic: Professor William Lane Craig (in my opinion the most eloquent Christian Apologetics and ethics speaker in the last century) versus Prof. Shelly Kagan ( Professor of Philosophy at Yale University and the former Henry R. Luce Professor of Social Thought and Ethics.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiJnCQuPiuo |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:35:15 AM EDT
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I believe in God.
But God doesn't give a shit if you asking him to heal your sick and dying dog or to lay healing powers over a sick relative. Religion also has no place in government dealings as well. Keep that shit to yourself. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:36:24 AM EDT
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They believe that atheism is hip and edgy, don't you know.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:36:44 AM EDT
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I believe in God. But God doesn't give a shit if you asking him to heal your sick and dying dog or to lay healing powers over a sick relative. Religion also has no place in government dealings as well. Keep that shit to yourself. ah, morality-frei governance. sounds awesome to me! |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:37:21 AM EDT
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Yes there are, I take no issue with someone who does not believe or can honestly say I don't know. The ones who are on a mission every chance they get do indeed make all atheist look bad. I tend to be a smart ass in general and rip on everyone, apparently some cant handle that. In truth if I don't like someone I just ignore them. My life it too short to waste it on them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have no issues with most Atheist here, but some really do go out of their way to make an ass of themselves. At first I thought maybe school was out or something Some of them are a total embarrassment to the rest of us. Most of us quiet non-believers regard those guys like open carry chipotle guys. There are "those guys" in every group. Yes there are, I take no issue with someone who does not believe or can honestly say I don't know. The ones who are on a mission every chance they get do indeed make all atheist look bad. I tend to be a smart ass in general and rip on everyone, apparently some cant handle that. In truth if I don't like someone I just ignore them. My life it too short to waste it on them. Bullshit. You starts a second thread to increase the drama. Don't start shit, start more shit and then say you don't have time for shit. You love the drama and you have plenty of time for it or you wouldn't have started this. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:38:11 AM EDT
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Internet culture/thug culture, and an entertainment ethos that derives maximum pleasure from the misery of others.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:40:20 AM EDT
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I believe in God. But God doesn't give a shit if you asking him to heal your sick and dying dog or to lay healing powers over a sick relative. Religion also has no place in government dealings as well. Keep that shit to yourself. Probably the best post in this thread. Seriously. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:43:23 AM EDT
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It's not exactly new. We've had an army of guys who will proudly declare their faith (that God doesn't exist) since the old board. So true, I feel sorry for them... 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:43:30 AM EDT
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Don't know about "rabid" but you can thank the bible-thumpers for wanting to bring in Syrian "refugees" along with trying to empty-out every other third world shit-hole in SA and bring them here.
Call them on it and they pull the "persecuting Christians" card on you. Piss on them, they are near as bad as liberals. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:43:57 AM EDT
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Your question deserves a better answer than I have time to type here. Instead I will link to perhaps one of the truly great debates on the topic: Professor William Lane Craig (in my opinion the most eloquent Christian Apologetics and ethics speaker in the last century) versus Prof. Shelly Kagan ( Professor of Philosophy at Yale University and the former Henry R. Luce Professor of Social Thought and Ethics.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiJnCQuPiuo Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are NO questions for which religion provides a better answer than science. How should I behave towards my fellow man? Science doesn't deal with philosophy or ethics. It's a complete amoral framework. Your question deserves a better answer than I have time to type here. Instead I will link to perhaps one of the truly great debates on the topic: Professor William Lane Craig (in my opinion the most eloquent Christian Apologetics and ethics speaker in the last century) versus Prof. Shelly Kagan ( Professor of Philosophy at Yale University and the former Henry R. Luce Professor of Social Thought and Ethics.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiJnCQuPiuo That's a different topic. Science is a specific framework for discovering new knowledge through a specific serious of steps. It is not a framework for answering questions of morality. That doesn't mean that morality requires religion. Religion is nto the antonym of science, nor science for religion. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:44:00 AM EDT
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Which religion does GD recommend? odin 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:47:01 AM EDT
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America's biggest social problem is the disintegration of the family through children with one parent and divorce. Who does this? Overwhelming Christians. Seen this much in real life? (not on the computer while amassing 180 thousand posts) I sure haven't seen this trend. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:47:58 AM EDT
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I have no issues with most Atheist here, but some really do go out of their way to make an ass of themselves. At first I thought maybe school was out or something You mean like those ones that go door to door or tell me for no apparent reason I need to be saved? If you think ardent Christians don't make asses of themselves every day I don't know what to tell you. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:48:16 AM EDT
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ah, morality-frei governance. sounds awesome to me! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe in God. But God doesn't give a shit if you asking him to heal your sick and dying dog or to lay healing powers over a sick relative. Religion also has no place in government dealings as well. Keep that shit to yourself. ah, morality-frei governance. sounds awesome to me! Morality isn't dependent on religion. Morality can exist on is own and without religion. Religion is, however, dependent on morality in order to have any credible purpose. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:49:37 AM EDT
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Which religion does GD recommend? odin http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/drunken-peasants-podcast/images/f/f4/Odin_der_G%C3%B6ttervater.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150907144319 Too old fashioned. I don't want someone wielding a stupid piece of wood with a pointy bit representing me. If it's going to be a warrior god, it needs to be updated for modern weaponry. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:50:03 AM EDT
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Seen this much in real life? (not on the computer while amassing 180 thousand posts) I sure haven't seen this trend. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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America's biggest social problem is the disintegration of the family through children with one parent and divorce. Who does this? Overwhelming Christians. Seen this much in real life? (not on the computer while amassing 180 thousand posts) I sure haven't seen this trend. I have. Every divorced person I know is Christian. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:50:35 AM EDT
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Secularism worked out swimmingly in the Middle East....
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:50:39 AM EDT
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I have not read this whole thread, but you are all wrong.
The problem is more rabid trolls than rabid atheists. Certain christians are super easy to troll because of their loudmouthed defensive nature. Some Christians remind me of crossfit people, as they need to tell you about it constantly. They are the first ones to be targeted by the hunting trolls. 
I am Christian, for the record, and I think it is hilarious to watch. Too many people on here cannot tell when they are being fucked with. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:51:06 AM EDT
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Don't know about "rabid" but you can thank the bible-thumpers for wanting to bring in Syrian "refugees" along with trying to empty-out every other third world shit-hole in SA and bring them here. Call them on it and they pull the "persecuting Christians" card on you. Piss on them, they are near as bad as liberals. I don't know about that............from my vantage point it is the godless 'tards like Obama and Sanders who want them all to come over here. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:51:11 AM EDT
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Secularism worked out swimmingly in the Middle East.... Please name a secular society in the Middle East. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:52:36 AM EDT
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Too old fashioned. I don't want someone wielding a stupid piece of wood with a pointy bit representing me. If it's going to be a warrior god, it needs to be updated for modern weaponry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Which religion does GD recommend? odin http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/drunken-peasants-podcast/images/f/f4/Odin_der_G%C3%B6ttervater.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150907144319 Too old fashioned. I don't want someone wielding a stupid piece of wood with a pointy bit representing me. If it's going to be a warrior god, it needs to be updated for modern weaponry. ravens never go out of style CAW CAW MOTHERFUCKAZ |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:52:53 AM EDT
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There aren't. Start with brushing up on "bias confirmation" and go from there.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:53:28 AM EDT
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So since 37% ( probably less) of people attend church weekly has the United States become an atheist nation? Not sure I buy the claim that there is this subset of "nondivorcing true believers" this is something the religious media picked up from author Shaunti Feldman, who prior to writing her book on this subject was writing "spiritual fiction thrillers" bible study guides etc Quote HistoryQuoted:
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America's biggest social problem is the disintegration of the family through children with one parent and divorce. Who does this? Overwhelming Christians. Atheists marry later, divorce less and have less children in single parent households, same with Jews. But facing up to one's own moral failings is uncomfortable, so an outside enemy has to be found, so it's the Jews, Gays and Atheists, and ranting about Jews and Gays is tough to get away with these days so who's left as a scapegoat? Would that be because the overwhelming majority of people in this country claim to be Christians? Nah, probably not.
ETA: Suppose the results of said survey were filtered to only include "Christians" who regularly attend church, rather than merely claiming the mantle of Christianity? Not sure I buy the claim that there is this subset of "nondivorcing true believers" this is something the religious media picked up from author Shaunti Feldman, who prior to writing her book on this subject was writing "spiritual fiction thrillers" bible study guides etc Whether there is or isn't, how is this relevant to anything? Do Christians claim everyone claiming to be Christian lives a perfect life? If one Christian somewhere sins and fails today, does that bring condemnation to all? Apparently so. It's odd how the harshest critics of "proper Christian living" are those who . . . aren't. Hmmph |
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