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I see open support of socialism and communism on Facebook every day. Yesterday someone posted a link to a magazine article proclaiming Obama as the most successful U.S. President in history. View Quote I had one person I used to know - who constantly posts Bernie junk on FB - tell me that the "class war is coming" and he will be happy to "wait at the guillotine for people like you" when I challenged him on his socialist postings. Basically a death threat, IMO, but FB would never do anything about it if reported. I wanted to tell him that I have better shit than a guillotine, but decided not to get into it and just LOL ed at him. |
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I have come to the realization that with the rise in popularity with Bern amoung the next generation, it is going to happen, one way or the next. It may be not this election cycle, but will likely be the next because this house of cards known as the US economy is going to have the table shook after FBHO leaves office, and I doubt it will stand. With that being said, whomever is next in line is likely to take the fall, as FBHO intends. Can we recover from what has intentionally been done to us if Trump or Cruz take the helm? Im afraid it will just be a bandaid until the limb turns toxic. I hope we can recover, but the only chamce we have is if the Millennial's have a chance to grow up some before wanting another form of government. (And yes, for the sake of argument, I know we are not a true free market, but nor are we 100% socialist. The problem is the two can not coexist.) View Quote Where have you been??? It ALREADY HAS! |
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I have come to the realization that with the rise in popularity with Bern amoung the next generation, it is going to happen, one way or the next. It may be not this election cycle, but will likely be the next because this house of cards known as the US economy is going to have the table shook after FBHO leaves office, and I doubt it will stand. With that being said, whomever is next in line is likely to take the fall, as FBHO intends. Can we recover from what has intentionally been done to us if Trump or Cruz take the helm? Im afraid it will just be a bandaid until the limb turns toxic. I hope we can recover, but the only chamce we have is if the Millennial's have a chance to grow up some before wanting another form of government. (And yes, for the sake of argument, I know we are not a true free market, but nor are we 100% socialist. The problem is the two can not coexist.) Wow, what a bunch of crap. "What has intentionally been done to us?" Oh, right, right, it's everyone else. Doing stuff to you. Are you cool with presenting yourself as a helpless victim? 'Cause that's what you sound like. Gee, and I thought everyone here was a huge-balled take-change commando. But you seem fine with conceding that pussy liberals - millennials even - have systematically removed your potency. Maybe socialism isn't imminent. Maybe you're just whining. Given the victim talk, "whining" seems to be a pretty good conclusion. ... and it's the liberals who are pussies... unfuckingbelievable.... Dont you have some offs to fuck? I just try not to feed the , personally |
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says the guy from IL....... If Sanders gets the nomination we will crush him in the general election and laugh as we mock DU's lamentations and gnashing of teeth View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America is socialist. says the guy from IL....... If Sanders gets the nomination we will crush him in the general election and laugh as we mock DU's lamentations and gnashing of teeth You live in a socialist country, gunwrtr. I understand why you feel the need to convince yourself otherwise. |
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Just because we aren't as bad doesn't mean we aren't already socialist. Top 5 characteristics of socialism: 1: Government ownership of productive resources (not quite there, but already pretty damn close in certain key areas) 2. planned economy (not quite there also, but already pretty damn close) 3. Redistribution of income (already there - refundable tax credits, etc) 4. Societal goals are social welfare instead of private profit (read the news for a little while and tell me we aren't already there) 5. Peaceful and democratic revolution (all this has happened through incrementalism and the voting booth) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America is socialist. We have a long way to go before we're as socialist as most of Europe. No doubt we are headed there but we're not that bad yet. Just because we aren't as bad doesn't mean we aren't already socialist. Top 5 characteristics of socialism: 1: Government ownership of productive resources (not quite there, but already pretty damn close in certain key areas) 2. planned economy (not quite there also, but already pretty damn close) 3. Redistribution of income (already there - refundable tax credits, etc) 4. Societal goals are social welfare instead of private profit (read the news for a little while and tell me we aren't already there) 5. Peaceful and democratic revolution (all this has happened through incrementalism and the voting booth) One can only pretend that we are not, really. |
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(And yes, for the sake of argument, I know we are not a true free market, but nor are we 100% socialist. The problem is the two can not coexist.) View Quote Sure, but you can have the appearance of free markets with gov't control. Fascism is popular with rulers for a reason. The big problem is that too much of the population refuses to work, and a decent sized chunk of them just aren't worth a damn under the current minimum wages. The taxpaying classes can't afford to support them indefinitely even if they wanted to. |
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History is going to repeat itself again and again. I read recently that Rome got so bad it was illegal to quit your job if you had one (tax money has to come from somewhere I guess!). Anyone know if this is true? View Quote I have read the same I once heard an interesting parallel histoty between Rome and the USA |
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As a land owner I am forced pay thousands of dollars a year in school taxes to educate other peoples rug rats.
Yeah, this nation is and has been a socialists hole for a long, long time. |
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We've been socialist since FDR at least, if not Teddy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America is socialist. We've been socialist since FDR at least, if not Teddy. Yup. Why some allow themselves to believe any different is beyond me. The question is not if America goes socialist, the question is what significant anguish the central authority will inflict upon dissenters in the future. Beyond what we have seen at this point under Obama with IRS, EPA, ATF, civil rights commission, obamacare "disinformation" tip lines, VA scandals involving the denial of care for veterans, INS, etc. You are all dissenters. Except 2minkey, God bless his Tory heart! |
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We've been socialist since FDR at least, if not Teddy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America is socialist. We've been socialist since FDR at least, if not Teddy. Yeah the Reagan era was especially socialist. Where do you people get this nonsense? |
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We have a long way to go before we're as socialist as most of Europe. No doubt we are headed there but we're not that bad yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America is socialist. We have a long way to go before we're as socialist as most of Europe. No doubt we are headed there but we're not that bad yet. Tell me something the govt hasn't got it's hands in......Can you build your own house? Can you buy the car you want? (V-8 RWD no EPA mandated stuff) Can you drill a well on your own land? Can you buy the water heater you want? There is very little you do that the Gov doesn't have it's hands in. We are just the only Socialists allowed to have guns under min restrictions. Which will change if the Bern man or Hitlery get in. The Republic died when Woodrow Wilson made it a populist form of govt, via the 16th and 17th amendment. Allowing Senators the ability to promise goods bought by taxpayers. |
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I had one person I used to know - who constantly posts Bernie junk on FB - tell me that the "class war is coming" and he will be happy to "wait at the guillotine for people like you" when I challenged him on his socialist postings. Basically a death threat, IMO, but FB would never do anything about it if reported. I wanted to tell him that I have better shit than a guillotine, but decided not to get into it and just LOL ed at him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I see open support of socialism and communism on Facebook every day. Yesterday someone posted a link to a magazine article proclaiming Obama as the most successful U.S. President in history. I had one person I used to know - who constantly posts Bernie junk on FB - tell me that the "class war is coming" and he will be happy to "wait at the guillotine for people like you" when I challenged him on his socialist postings. Basically a death threat, IMO, but FB would never do anything about it if reported. I wanted to tell him that I have better shit than a guillotine, but decided not to get into it and just LOL ed at him. Just should have said "This from a guy who can't change his own tire." |
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View Quote I read that as "Resist SoCal-ism". Well, sort of the same thing... TC |
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Yup. Why some allow themselves to believe any different is beyond me. The question is not if America goes socialist, the question is what significant anguish the central authority will inflict upon dissenters in the future. Beyond what we have seen at this point under Obama with IRS, EPA, ATF, civil rights commission, obamacare "disinformation" tip lines, VA scandals involving the denial of care for veterans, INS, etc. You are all dissenters. Except 2minkey, God bless his Tory heart! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America is socialist. We've been socialist since FDR at least, if not Teddy. Yup. Why some allow themselves to believe any different is beyond me. The question is not if America goes socialist, the question is what significant anguish the central authority will inflict upon dissenters in the future. Beyond what we have seen at this point under Obama with IRS, EPA, ATF, civil rights commission, obamacare "disinformation" tip lines, VA scandals involving the denial of care for veterans, INS, etc. You are all dissenters. Except 2minkey, God bless his Tory heart! Think Lavoy Finicum. That's how you'll be portrayed. |
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Yeah the Reagan era was especially socialist. Where do you people get this nonsense? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America is socialist. We've been socialist since FDR at least, if not Teddy. Yeah the Reagan era was especially socialist. Where do you people get this nonsense? I love Ronaldus Magnus however he did not curb welfare significantly , and did fail to abolish the Department of Education which was a campaign pledge of his. Having said that all the fucking Millennials that want to piss and moan about machine guns don't know how much freedom they regained when it comes to the 2A under Reagan or what it was like under Carter. So I say this to all the at behind the ears kids who cry now and were not even born yet shup and go play with your Legos . |
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Easy, raise the voting age to 21 and present a current year W2
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Easy, raise the voting age to 21 restrict voting rights to property owners and present a current year W2 View Quote FIFY letting people with no dog in the fight vote has caused this problem. There is a reason that only property owners were allowed to vote, they are the ones who had something to actually lose. |
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The Country is going to go where the young people take it and it really is that simple.
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Sure, but you can have the appearance of free markets with gov't control. Fascism is popular with rulers for a reason. The big problem is that too much of the population refuses to work, and a decent sized chunk of them just aren't worth a damn under the current minimum wages. The taxpaying classes can't afford to support them indefinitely even if they wanted to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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(And yes, for the sake of argument, I know we are not a true free market, but nor are we 100% socialist. The problem is the two can not coexist.) Sure, but you can have the appearance of free markets with gov't control. Fascism is popular with rulers for a reason. The big problem is that too much of the population refuses to work, and a decent sized chunk of them just aren't worth a damn under the current minimum wages. The taxpaying classes can't afford to support them indefinitely even if they wanted to. It's not that they refuse to work. It's that there's no incentive for them to work. Many are lazy, but they've been conditioned to be that way for at least a couple generations. That said, I know very few people who actually like to work. |
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I have come to the realization that with the rise in popularity with Bern amoung the next generation, it is going to happen, one way or the next. It may be not this election cycle, but will likely be the next because this house of cards known as the US economy is going to have the table shook after FBHO leaves office, and I doubt it will stand. With that being said, whomever is next in line is likely to take the fall, as FBHO intends. Can we recover from what has intentionally been done to us if Trump or Cruz take the helm? Im afraid it will just be a bandaid until the limb turns toxic. I hope we can recover, but the only chamce we have is if the Millennial's have a chance to grow up some before wanting another form of government. (And yes, for the sake of argument, I know we are not a true free market, but nor are we 100% socialist. The problem is the two can not coexist.) View Quote So you are surrendering because of some dumb kids and a nutty old faggot that has a 0% chance of being elected? |
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I had one person I used to know - who constantly posts Bernie junk on FB - tell me that the "class war is coming" and he will be happy to "wait at the guillotine for people like you" when I challenged him on his socialist postings. Basically a death threat, IMO, but FB would never do anything about it if reported. I wanted to tell him that I have better shit than a guillotine, but decided not to get into it and just LOL ed at him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I see open support of socialism and communism on Facebook every day. Yesterday someone posted a link to a magazine article proclaiming Obama as the most successful U.S. President in history. I had one person I used to know - who constantly posts Bernie junk on FB - tell me that the "class war is coming" and he will be happy to "wait at the guillotine for people like you" when I challenged him on his socialist postings. Basically a death threat, IMO, but FB would never do anything about it if reported. I wanted to tell him that I have better shit than a guillotine, but decided not to get into it and just LOL ed at him. Don't report it. Re-post it till every soccer mom and little old lady knows what manner of people are pulling for Bernie. |
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So you are surrendering because of some dumb kids and a nutty old faggot that has a 0% chance of being elected? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have come to the realization that with the rise in popularity with Bern amoung the next generation, it is going to happen, one way or the next. It may be not this election cycle, but will likely be the next because this house of cards known as the US economy is going to have the table shook after FBHO leaves office, and I doubt it will stand. With that being said, whomever is next in line is likely to take the fall, as FBHO intends. Can we recover from what has intentionally been done to us if Trump or Cruz take the helm? Im afraid it will just be a bandaid until the limb turns toxic. I hope we can recover, but the only chamce we have is if the Millennial's have a chance to grow up some before wanting another form of government. (And yes, for the sake of argument, I know we are not a true free market, but nor are we 100% socialist. The problem is the two can not coexist.) So you are surrendering because of some dumb kids and a nutty old faggot that has a 0% chance of being elected? Nope, not what I am saying. I am saying, unless the youth of America have a change of heart, it is going to happen, because the left's social conditioning has worked It may not be this cycle, but in the coming years, it is inevitible (w/o drastic change) |
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Of that, I don't believe there can be any doubt. Once it starts, it doesn't end until it all falls apart. View Quote Pretty much this. We're already on the the road downhill for a while, it has accelerated it significantly in the past 20 years, in addition to the severe divisions in the country (left/right, white/not-white, urban/rural, etc.), now it's just a matter of how quickly we get to the bottom. I don't think we'll make it another 20 years without something drastic happening. In this day and age, where social media overwhelms any conventional information source, a shitload can be promised to college kids and they'll do anything for "Free higher education" and other issues. On the brighter side, the generation that will be in college in the next election seem to be a bit more conservative, but so much damage has been done that it will be very hard to change it. First job is to stop the bleeding, then fix the wound. The current government is still using a knife instead of a bandage, let alone giving a thought about the actual wounds. |
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Easy, raise the voting age to 21 and present a current year W2 View Quote that would be fucking AWESOME. I've often said that I think only net-benefits to the economy should be able to vote. some food stamps is ok. some welfare is ok, but if you got more from welfare than you paid in taxes, no vote for you. undecided about social security. I see that they paid in and are only getting their money back, at the same time, they are now in a position where their only possible increases in income would come from voting for it. . . . |
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Don't report it. Re-post it till every soccer mom and little old lady knows what manner of people are pulling for Bernie. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I see open support of socialism and communism on Facebook every day. Yesterday someone posted a link to a magazine article proclaiming Obama as the most successful U.S. President in history. I had one person I used to know - who constantly posts Bernie junk on FB - tell me that the "class war is coming" and he will be happy to "wait at the guillotine for people like you" when I challenged him on his socialist postings. Basically a death threat, IMO, but FB would never do anything about it if reported. I wanted to tell him that I have better shit than a guillotine, but decided not to get into it and just LOL ed at him. Don't report it. Re-post it till every soccer mom and little old lady knows what manner of people are pulling for Bernie. YES ! |
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Nope, not what I am saying. I am saying, unless the youth of America have a change of heart, it is going to happen, because the left's social conditioning has worked It may not be this cycle, but in the coming years, it is inevitible (w/o drastic change) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I have come to the realization that with the rise in popularity with Bern amoung the next generation, it is going to happen, one way or the next. It may be not this election cycle, but will likely be the next because this house of cards known as the US economy is going to have the table shook after FBHO leaves office, and I doubt it will stand. With that being said, whomever is next in line is likely to take the fall, as FBHO intends. Can we recover from what has intentionally been done to us if Trump or Cruz take the helm? Im afraid it will just be a bandaid until the limb turns toxic. I hope we can recover, but the only chamce we have is if the Millennial's have a chance to grow up some before wanting another form of government. (And yes, for the sake of argument, I know we are not a true free market, but nor are we 100% socialist. The problem is the two can not coexist.) So you are surrendering because of some dumb kids and a nutty old faggot that has a 0% chance of being elected? Nope, not what I am saying. I am saying, unless the youth of America have a change of heart, it is going to happen, because the left's social conditioning has worked It may not be this cycle, but in the coming years, it is inevitible (w/o drastic change) Oh you're conceding defeat all right. At the hands of liberal pussy millennials. |
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Yeah the Reagan era was especially socialist. Where do you people get this nonsense? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America is socialist. We've been socialist since FDR at least, if not Teddy. Yeah the Reagan era was especially socialist. Where do you people get this nonsense? During the Reagan administration we had: Income taxes Individual welfare Corporate welfare Corporate subsidies Farm subsidies Food stamps Death taxes Investment taxes Federal Department of Education Federal Department of Health and Human Services Federal Department of Commerce Federal Department of Labor Enormous debts Social Security Medicaid Medicare Just to name a few. That's where we get it, from little annoyances called facts. |
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During the Reagan administration we had: Income taxes Individual welfare Corporate welfare Corporate subsidies Farm subsidies Food stamps Death taxes Investment taxes Federal Department of Education Federal Department of Health and Human Services Federal Department of Commerce Federal Department of Labor Enormous debts Social Security Medicaid Medicare Just to name a few. That's where we get it, from little annoyances called facts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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America is socialist. We've been socialist since FDR at least, if not Teddy. Yeah the Reagan era was especially socialist. Where do you people get this nonsense? During the Reagan administration we had: Income taxes Individual welfare Corporate welfare Corporate subsidies Farm subsidies Food stamps Death taxes Investment taxes Federal Department of Education Federal Department of Health and Human Services Federal Department of Commerce Federal Department of Labor Enormous debts Social Security Medicaid Medicare Just to name a few. That's where we get it, from little annoyances called facts. LMAO. |
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