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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:50:52 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view.
I agree pro 2A is big on my plate...don't get me wrong. But we the American people as a whole have far bigger problems to contend with as well...and I do not know if Cruz can deliver come election day. I still stand for a Trump/Cruz win the would make America really,really grate again. It would do wonderful, wonderful things. I personally like them both and am torn...but my gut says Trump. Sweet I own pg 3 |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:57:52 PM EDT
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This is our guy. Mine for sure. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:02:22 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. I agree pro 2A is big on my plate...don't get me wrong. But we the American people as a whole have far bigger problems to contend with as well...and I do not know if Cruz can deliver come election day. I still stand for a Trump/Cruz win the would make America really,really grate again. It would do wonderful, wonderful things. I personally like them both and am torn...but my gut says Trump. Sweet I own pg 3 Trump has other issues that make me think Cruz is right for the job. I won't go into them now because I don't want to derail the thread. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:03:42 PM EDT
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Sweet I own pg 3 Not with an edit you don't. I missed it. What were Cruzs numbers last night? Compared to whats his face |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:09:39 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. No. Not even close. The words on Trump's website have very little to do with how he thinks, or decisions that he will make. Those words are there, because Trump hired someone to write something that would fool people into thinking he was pro-2nd Amendment. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:10:08 PM EDT
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This is our guy. Now that Rand is out, yes Ted is our guy. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:17:16 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. I agree pro 2A is big on my plate...don't get me wrong. But we the American people as a whole have far bigger problems to contend with as well...and I do not know if Cruz can deliver come election day. I still stand for a Trump/Cruz win the would make America really,really grate again. It would do wonderful, wonderful things. I personally like them both and am torn...but my gut says Trump. Sweet I own pg 3 1. You can't own shit with an edit. 2. Do you believe everything on the internet -- really think Trump wrote out that position himself using Weebly? |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:19:03 PM EDT
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Trump isn't a politician until he's sworn in? In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Are you sure he isn't a politician? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz is a politician and all politicians deserve a certain amount of our disdain based on that alone. However, if we ever had a candidate in our lifetimes that would fit the bill on what most folks here say they believe in and what the others pay lip service to then it's Ted Cruz. Everyday I hear from Trump supporters ( here too ) that he is not a "Politician" and that is one of the biggest reasons they are voting for him. The moment he is sworn in on his inauguration, he becomes a Politician. 
Trump isn't a politician until he's sworn in? In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Are you sure he isn't a politician? I believe he always was . The inauguration thing is a rebuttal I use for those idiots that say he is not . |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:21:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is our guy. He might be yours but he isn't mine. If he gets the nomination I'll vote for him but he still wouldn't be my guy. I would be fine with him on the SCOTUS though. Just not President. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:26:11 PM EDT
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I love the fact that when the guy is building his question, Ted is nodding him on and almost smirking. He's probably thinking to himself "Son, you done fucked up. You're calling in a shitstorm of knowledge and reason that is gunna warp you're weak little liberal mind."
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:26:39 PM EDT
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This is our guy. FPNI. He is far less malleable on the 2A and the Constitution overall than any other candidate currently in the race. At this point into the primary season, there has never been a more obvious choice for president in my adult lifetime. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:27:56 PM EDT
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This is our guy. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:31:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:36:08 PM EDT
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Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? Shameless. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:37:44 PM EDT
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Not with an edit you don't. I missed it. What were Cruzs numbers last night? Compared to whats his face Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sweet I own pg 3 Not with an edit you don't. I missed it. What were Cruzs numbers last night? Compared to whats his face Where is that written law? |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:40:44 PM EDT
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No. Not even close. The words on Trump's website have very little to do with how he thinks, or decisions that he will make. Those words are there, because Trump hired someone to write something that would fool people into thinking he was pro-2nd Amendment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. No. Not even close. The words on Trump's website have very little to do with how he thinks, or decisions that he will make. Those words are there, because Trump hired someone to write something that would fool people into thinking he was pro-2nd Amendment. But it's been almost a full year since Trump supported the AWB. Can't a man flip-flop on such a fundamental view and get a pass? Sheesh. Tough crowd those conservatives. 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:44:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:47:07 PM EDT
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But, but, but...TRUMP: I am going to be the greatest jobs president that God ever created. Remember that.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:49:24 PM EDT
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Sweet I own pg 3 Not with an edit you don't. I missed it. What were Cruzs numbers last night? Compared to whats his face Where is that written law? I guess you can start a thread asking the specifics of "page ownage".... 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:51:26 PM EDT
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But, but, but...TRUMP: I am going to be the greatest jobs president that God ever created. Remember that. I have a 'uge great plan for that. It'll be great. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:53:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:01:16 PM EDT
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Why is he not saying this every time he gets in front of the camera?
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:05:31 PM EDT
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Why is he not saying this every time he gets in front of the camera? Because America is not ARFCOM? |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:07:05 PM EDT
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And yet, on a forum called AR15.com, lot's of people don't like him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've seen that vid literally at least 87 times and it still gets me pumped and excited for him as a candidate. He should be every true conservative's distant #1 choice. CRUZ 2016 And yet, on a forum called AR15.com, lot's of people don't like him. You don't have to convince me. From yesterday:  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:12:00 PM EDT
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Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? Are you pretending that Trump didn't capitulate to the ethanol lobby for votes now? The guy is willing to pander to anyone if he thinks it will get him votes.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:15:15 PM EDT
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Are you pretending that Trump didn't capitulate to the ethanol lobby for votes now? The guy is willing to pander to anyone if he thinks it will get him votes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? Are you pretending that Trump didn't capitulate to the ethanol lobby for votes now? The guy is willing to pander to anyone if he thinks it will get him votes. It's more slippery than that. He's not pretending it didn't happen, he's saying you can't prove it. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:15:43 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. I agree pro 2A is big on my plate...don't get me wrong. But we the American people as a whole have far bigger problems to contend with as well...and I do not know if Cruz can deliver come election day. I still stand for a Trump/Cruz win the would make America really,really grate again. It would do wonderful, wonderful things. I personally like them both and am torn...but my gut says Trump. Sweet I own pg 3 I like Cruz and will vote for him in the primary here in two weeks. The problem is the GOPe hates him, dems hate him, and the senate hates him. At least Trump stands a chance of getting the GOP nomination. Yes, I know the GOPe hates him too, maybe more so. For that reason, to seal the deal with Trump, the GOPe will saddle him with the most hardcore establishment VP they can find (Jeb maybe?) or they'll back door his ass completely out of the running. And another thing. I troll liberal news outlets and other liberal websites and a lot of dems are saying if Hillary gets the nod they are going to vote for Trump. Not just a few, but a metric shit ton of them. No dem will ever vote for Cruz. I'd rather see Cruz get the nomination but it's going to be Trump.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:27:43 PM EDT
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But, but, but...TRUMP: I am going to be the greatest jobs president that God ever created. Remember that. I have a 'uge great plan for that. It'll be great. And Mexico will pay for it! |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:28:50 PM EDT
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I like Cruz and will vote for him in the primary here in two weeks. The problem is the GOPe hates him, dems hate him, and the senate hates him. At least Trump stands a chance of getting the GOP nomination. Yes, I know the GOPe hates him too, maybe more so. For that reason, to seal the deal with Trump, the GOPe will saddle him with the most hardcore establishment VP they can find (Jeb maybe?) or they'll back door his ass completely out of the running. And another thing. I troll liberal news outlets and other liberal websites and a lot of dems are saying if Hillary gets the nod they are going to vote for Trump. Not just a few, but a metric shit ton of them. No dem will ever vote for Cruz. I'd rather see Cruz get the nomination but it's going to be Trump.
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. I agree pro 2A is big on my plate...don't get me wrong. But we the American people as a whole have far bigger problems to contend with as well...and I do not know if Cruz can deliver come election day. I still stand for a Trump/Cruz win the would make America really,really grate again. It would do wonderful, wonderful things. I personally like them both and am torn...but my gut says Trump. Sweet I own pg 3 I like Cruz and will vote for him in the primary here in two weeks. The problem is the GOPe hates him, dems hate him, and the senate hates him. At least Trump stands a chance of getting the GOP nomination. Yes, I know the GOPe hates him too, maybe more so. For that reason, to seal the deal with Trump, the GOPe will saddle him with the most hardcore establishment VP they can find (Jeb maybe?) or they'll back door his ass completely out of the running. And another thing. I troll liberal news outlets and other liberal websites and a lot of dems are saying if Hillary gets the nod they are going to vote for Trump. Not just a few, but a metric shit ton of them. No dem will ever vote for Cruz. I'd rather see Cruz get the nomination but it's going to be Trump.
Well, duh...... If that doesn't raise the bullshit flag among conservatives contemplating this guy as their next president, I don't know what will. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:31:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol You know it's true, just as well as I do. Be honest. Shameless. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? Shameless. So you have no proof and you want whoever is President to act like Obama by bypassing Congress. Got it. But is "not following the rules" a trait you want children to have? No it is not, so Cruz by his own commercial can never do any EAs or EOs, must play nice with the Democrats, and always follow the rules. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:32:52 PM EDT
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I like Cruz and will vote for him in the primary here in two weeks. The problem is the GOPe hates him, dems hate him, and the senate hates him. At least Trump stands a chance of getting the GOP nomination. Yes, I know the GOPe hates him too, maybe more so. For that reason, to seal the deal with Trump, the GOPe will saddle him with the most hardcore establishment VP they can find (Jeb maybe?) or they'll back door his ass completely out of the running. And another thing. I troll liberal news outlets and other liberal websites and a lot of dems are saying if Hillary gets the nod they are going to vote for Trump. Not just a few, but a metric shit ton of them. No dem will ever vote for Cruz. I'd rather see Cruz get the nomination but it's going to be Trump.
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. I agree pro 2A is big on my plate...don't get me wrong. But we the American people as a whole have far bigger problems to contend with as well...and I do not know if Cruz can deliver come election day. I still stand for a Trump/Cruz win the would make America really,really grate again. It would do wonderful, wonderful things. I personally like them both and am torn...but my gut says Trump. Sweet I own pg 3 I like Cruz and will vote for him in the primary here in two weeks. The problem is the GOPe hates him, dems hate him, and the senate hates him. At least Trump stands a chance of getting the GOP nomination. Yes, I know the GOPe hates him too, maybe more so. For that reason, to seal the deal with Trump, the GOPe will saddle him with the most hardcore establishment VP they can find (Jeb maybe?) or they'll back door his ass completely out of the running. And another thing. I troll liberal news outlets and other liberal websites and a lot of dems are saying if Hillary gets the nod they are going to vote for Trump. Not just a few, but a metric shit ton of them. No dem will ever vote for Cruz. I'd rather see Cruz get the nomination but it's going to be Trump.
That's what's got my goat. My father...yes my own damn father is a life democrap. I don't talk politics or law with him as we don't see eye to eye...obviously. the other day we got on the topic. He was talking going republic this year and he is watching Trump. Well that raised a brow and got me thinking...actually it scared the living shit out of me. Cruz even though he is the better man will never win. I don't know...I just know we can't have another liberal in the office. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:34:26 PM EDT
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So you have no proof and you want whoever is President to act like Obama by bypassing Congress. Got it. But is "not following the rules" a trait you want children to have? No it is not, so Cruz by his own commercial can never do any EAs or EOs, must play nice with the Democrats, and always follow the rules. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? Shameless. So you have no proof and you want whoever is President to act like Obama by bypassing Congress. Got it. But is "not following the rules" a trait you want children to have? No it is not, so Cruz by his own commercial can never do any EAs or EOs, must play nice with the Democrats, and always follow the rules. Absolutely shameless. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:37:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:38:26 PM EDT
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Yep, makes no sense. Rand was my guy but Cruz is by far better than the rest and pretty much a perfect ar15.com candidate. That being said...he could lay of the religion thing a bit, I'm hoping he's just pandering to the base for now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've seen that vid literally at least 87 times and it still gets me pumped and excited for him as a candidate. He should be every true conservative's distant #1 choice. CRUZ 2016 And yet, on a forum called AR15.com, lot's of people don't like him. Yup. It's sad. Yep, makes no sense. Rand was my guy but Cruz is by far better than the rest and pretty much a perfect ar15.com candidate. That being said...he could lay of the religion thing a bit, I'm hoping he's just pandering to the base for now. If you're speaking from the heart it's not pandering. Sen. Cruz makes no secret about what he believes, and I have no problem with that. If you do, you'd best remember that the 2nd is there to protect the 1st (and all the rest of the BoR). If you don't like what he believes, that's your business. You can get glad in the same pants you got mad in. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:39:25 PM EDT
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Noch Besser:
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:39:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you pretending that Trump didn't capitulate to the ethanol lobby for votes now? The guy is willing to pander to anyone if he thinks it will get him votes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? Are you pretending that Trump didn't capitulate to the ethanol lobby for votes now? The guy is willing to pander to anyone if he thinks it will get him votes. I saw the video of Trump making the statements. If you want to know what an unprepared Trump reading a script looks like, that is the video to watch. He did a terrible job reading his script but it was his script not some unknown boogyman's father's script. It it Trump said he would make sure the EPA was enforcing the current mandate. What is there to capitulate, in 2005 the Republicans create the Energy Policy Act of 2005 which gave the EPA power to ensure that gasoline contains a minimum volume of renewable fuel. Those are the exact words that Trump said. He would make sure the EPA was enforcing the minimum volume of renewable fuel was used. If you want to blame anyone for that blame GW Bush and the Republicans. If Trump said he is in favor of enforcing the existing gun laws, does that mean he is pandering to the gun control crowd? According to the Cruzbot logic it would be. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:43:12 PM EDT
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Please imagine Donald Trump making this case.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:44:35 PM EDT
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That's what's got my goat. My father...yes my own damn father is a life democrap. I don't talk politics or law with him as we don't see eye to eye...obviously. the other day we got on the topic. He was talking going republic this year and he is watching Trump. Well that raised a brow and got me thinking...actually it scared the living shit out of me. Cruz even though he is the better man will never win. I don't know...I just know we can't have another liberal in the office. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. I agree pro 2A is big on my plate...don't get me wrong. But we the American people as a whole have far bigger problems to contend with as well...and I do not know if Cruz can deliver come election day. I still stand for a Trump/Cruz win the would make America really,really grate again. It would do wonderful, wonderful things. I personally like them both and am torn...but my gut says Trump. Sweet I own pg 3 I like Cruz and will vote for him in the primary here in two weeks. The problem is the GOPe hates him, dems hate him, and the senate hates him. At least Trump stands a chance of getting the GOP nomination. Yes, I know the GOPe hates him too, maybe more so. For that reason, to seal the deal with Trump, the GOPe will saddle him with the most hardcore establishment VP they can find (Jeb maybe?) or they'll back door his ass completely out of the running. And another thing. I troll liberal news outlets and other liberal websites and a lot of dems are saying if Hillary gets the nod they are going to vote for Trump. Not just a few, but a metric shit ton of them. No dem will ever vote for Cruz. I'd rather see Cruz get the nomination but it's going to be Trump.
That's what's got my goat. My father...yes my own damn father is a life democrap. I don't talk politics or law with him as we don't see eye to eye...obviously. the other day we got on the topic. He was talking going republic this year and he is watching Trump. Well that raised a brow and got me thinking...actually it scared the living shit out of me. Cruz even though he is the better man will never win. I don't know...I just know we can't have another liberal in the office. The problem is.. when dems start to like a guy you need to wonder why. since they always seems to like the ones that take freedom, and lie to your face with major corruption behind the curtains. Kind of like that one girl who keeps dating guys that beat her when drunk. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:44:39 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. I agree pro 2A is big on my plate...don't get me wrong. But we the American people as a whole have far bigger problems to contend with as well...and I do not know if Cruz can deliver come election day. I still stand for a Trump/Cruz win the would make America really,really grate again. It would do wonderful, wonderful things. I personally like them both and am torn...but my gut says Trump. Sweet I own pg 3 You have never seen, nor could any of us imagine, Donald Trump making the case that Cruz makes in these videos. Cruz argued and won 2A arguments before SCOTUS. We need the guy who can make the argument. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:45:05 PM EDT
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Sweet I own pg 3 Not with an edit you don't. I missed it. What were Cruzs numbers last night? Compared to whats his face Where is that written law? Lol. Pathetic. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:45:38 PM EDT
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No. Not even close. The words on Trump's website have very little to do with how he thinks, or decisions that he will make. Those words are there, because Trump hired someone to write something that would fool people into thinking he was pro-2nd Amendment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. No. Not even close. The words on Trump's website have very little to do with how he thinks, or decisions that he will make. Those words are there, because Trump hired someone to write something that would fool people into thinking he was pro-2nd Amendment. Ex fucking zactly. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:47:53 PM EDT
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Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? If you accept the very notion that the government of the US should be involved in subsiding the production of ethanol, then you must accept the premise that .gov should be able to subsidize solar energy. Please explain how that would be wrong. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:49:53 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. I agree pro 2A is big on my plate...don't get me wrong. But we the American people as a whole have far bigger problems to contend with as well...and I do not know if Cruz can deliver come election day. I still stand for a Trump/Cruz win the would make America really,really grate again. It would do wonderful, wonderful things. I personally like them both and am torn...but my gut says Trump. Sweet I own pg 3 I like Cruz and will vote for him in the primary here in two weeks. The problem is the GOPe hates him, dems hate him, and the senate hates him. At least Trump stands a chance of getting the GOP nomination. Yes, I know the GOPe hates him too, maybe more so. For that reason, to seal the deal with Trump, the GOPe will saddle him with the most hardcore establishment VP they can find (Jeb maybe?) or they'll back door his ass completely out of the running. And another thing. I troll liberal news outlets and other liberal websites and a lot of dems are saying if Hillary gets the nod they are going to vote for Trump. Not just a few, but a metric shit ton of them. No dem will ever vote for Cruz. I'd rather see Cruz get the nomination but it's going to be Trump.
Well, duh...... If that doesn't raise the bullshit flag among conservatives contemplating this guy as their next president, I don't know what will. Bullshit. Trump loses to Hill dog per weeks of stable polling. Both Cruz and Rubio beat her. RCP average has been that way for at least a week. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 10:53:12 PM EDT
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Polls don't mean shit on a national lvl. not supporting your position or other guys. just a fact. Hell. remember "Romney by a landslide!"?
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:00:39 PM EDT
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No one in this thread, nor any of Trump's supporters, has any idea what Trump would do if faced with a Sandy Hook tragedy and a proposed assault weapons ban.
No one in this thread, nor any of Cruz's supporters, has any DOUBT what Cruz would do in the same circumstance. Trump wants to make deals with Reid and Polosi. Cruz wants to defeat and stop the agenda of Reid and Polosi. If this is not clear to anyone in this thread, you should set down your device and examine your soul. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:03:18 PM EDT
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I saw the video of Trump making the statements. If you want to know what an unprepared Trump reading a script looks like, that is the video to watch. He did a terrible job reading his script but it was his script not some unknown boogyman's father's script. It it Trump said he would make sure the EPA was enforcing the current mandate. What is there to capitulate, in 2005 the Republicans create the Energy Policy Act of 2005 which gave the EPA power to ensure that gasoline contains a minimum volume of renewable fuel. Those are the exact words that Trump said. He would make sure the EPA was enforcing the minimum volume of renewable fuel was used. If you want to blame anyone for that blame GW Bush and the Republicans. If Trump said he is in favor of enforcing the existing gun laws, does that mean he is pandering to the gun control crowd? According to the Cruzbot logic it would be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Iowa, he read off a script provided to him by the Ethanol Lobby, promising to use the EPA to force an Ethanol Mandate upon the taxpayers, in exchange for political support from a Lobbyist's politician father. Do you have proof of that or is it just your own written statement that damagingly misrepresents what happened with Trump? Anyway Trump said he would enforce the existing law and statute. How is that a terrible thing? He didn't create the law. That is a Congress problem because they created the legislation and put the EPA in charge of it. Congress needs to fix that. Or would you rather have a President that bypasses Congress and does everything through EOs and EAs? Are you pretending that Trump didn't capitulate to the ethanol lobby for votes now? The guy is willing to pander to anyone if he thinks it will get him votes. I saw the video of Trump making the statements. If you want to know what an unprepared Trump reading a script looks like, that is the video to watch. He did a terrible job reading his script but it was his script not some unknown boogyman's father's script. It it Trump said he would make sure the EPA was enforcing the current mandate. What is there to capitulate, in 2005 the Republicans create the Energy Policy Act of 2005 which gave the EPA power to ensure that gasoline contains a minimum volume of renewable fuel. Those are the exact words that Trump said. He would make sure the EPA was enforcing the minimum volume of renewable fuel was used. If you want to blame anyone for that blame GW Bush and the Republicans. If Trump said he is in favor of enforcing the existing gun laws, does that mean he is pandering to the gun control crowd? According to the Cruzbot logic it would be. Yes it absolutely means he would be pandering to the anti gun crowd by enforcing the bullshit they've heaped upon us. It means he wants to keep the status quo at a minimum and possibly worse.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:07:19 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever read Trumps 2A on his campaign website? Pretty much same view. Huh, that's a coincidence. Obama said one time that he doesn't want to take our guns too. It's pretty easy to say shit and not back it up. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:07:24 PM EDT
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"It was as if there was a presence of the Holy Spirit in the room and we
all were at awe,” Cruz stated, "and Ted, all that came out of his mouth, he said, ‘Here am I Lord, use me. Here am I Lord, I surrender to whatever Your will for my life is.’ And it was at that time that he felt a peace about running for president of the United States.” |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:08:22 PM EDT
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Noch Besser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noy5f-y0uhY "Is that a yes?" 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 11:10:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is our guy. Considering Trump thinks Bloomberg is a "good friend" and a "great guy"... It's kind of a no brainer... Cruz 2016. |
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