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Posted: 2/9/2016 10:24:45 AM EDT
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The hackers told Motherboard they accessed the information by compromising an email account of a Justice Department official. They used the email address to "social engineer” access to the DOJ intranet, calling technical support to give them a password. "So I called up, told them I was new and I didn't understand how to get past [the portal],” one of the hackers told Motherboard. "They asked if I had a token code, I said no, they said ‘that's fine – just use our one’.” https://www.rt.com/usa/331788-hacker-doj-fbi-doxxed/ Wonder if the IT worker who gave out the info could be criminally charged? Should. This crap happens all too often. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 12:57:15 PM EDT
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But no one hacked into the Spawn of Satan's unsecured private server..............so I have been told. They never had to. All they needed to do was hold a fundraiser and the world was their oyster. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:12:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the issue with the OFFICIAL WORK contact info (basically a phone/e-mail directory) of PUBLIC EMPLOYEES being PUBLIC? |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:14:50 PM EDT
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The more interesting thing here is that we actually have 20,000 FBI agent.  not really. I bet it is more like FBI employees - not all of whom are agents... |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:16:37 PM EDT
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STOP treating hacking as a crime, and start treating it as a terroristic act. F'n FIND them and KILL them. Doesn't matter if they're a 30-year-old foreign agent or a 16-year-old dysfunctional teenager. END them. You'll see a lot of this crap stop. Too many people believe that the stuff they do over the internet has no consequences... about time it does. Yeah, that won't fucking be abused at all. 
We already have local departments abusing the "terror" moniker to justify some atrocious bullshit they've done. Brilliant move what could possibly go wrong? |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:16:59 PM EDT
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Why the fuck do we have 20000 FBI employees? that isn't that many. The FBI covers all of the US and also works overseas they have labs, technicians, secretaries, janitorial staff, clerks, trainers, medics, etc. they probably have a couple hundred folks in IT alone. between networks, programmers, analysts, operators etc. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:19:28 PM EDT
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#ohwell
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:24:13 PM EDT
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You would think they would do a better job at keeping information secure
 
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:33:36 PM EDT
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https://www.rt.com/usa/331788-hacker-doj-fbi-doxxed/ Wonder if the IT worker who gave out the info could be criminally charged? Should. This crap happens all too often. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The hackers told Motherboard they accessed the information by compromising an email account of a Justice Department official. They used the email address to "social engineer” access to the DOJ intranet, calling technical support to give them a password.
"So I called up, told them I was new and I didn't understand how to get past [the portal],” one of the hackers told Motherboard. "They asked if I had a token code, I said no, they said ‘that's fine – just use our one’.” https://www.rt.com/usa/331788-hacker-doj-fbi-doxxed/ Wonder if the IT worker who gave out the info could be criminally charged? Should. This crap happens all too often. Practically anyone who ever sent an email to Hilary's unsecured server did the same thing. |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 1:37:53 PM EDT
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Homeland Security is an oxymoron.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:48:05 PM EDT
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Bet the admin password was "administrator"
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:52:27 PM EDT
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still not close to what the OPM allowed. everyone with a clearance got fucked by that one. I laughed pretty hard when I got that letter in the mail. All that bullshit for a TS/SCI and all they sent me was a "whoops lol." |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:58:41 PM EDT
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I don't get it.... why cant these hackers erase everyone's mortgages and credit card debts instead of this bullshit...
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:12:24 AM EDT
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Now, just remember this when you have the head of the FBI nearly demanding the developers of crypto adopt some standard that will allow them unfettered access to a back door in all users of that crytographic standard.
You have an agency that cannot protect its own employee data wanting the literal keys to every method of secure communications used by a nation. The fact that FBI Janitor Bob Robinson lives at 123 Anystreet Quantico, VA is not something that most hackers or hacktivist groups give two shits about. When the FBI has those keys, they become the holy grail of hacking and they will be acquired by outside parties. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:46:46 AM EDT
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I'm reading between the lines here that a top level DOJ boss clicked on something stupid in a suspicious email or ran his mouth too much outside the office.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:55:59 AM EDT
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Why the fuck do we have 20000 FBI employees? 20,000 FBI guys / 50 states = 400 employees per state Some state have more, some will have less. Not to mention, US Territories. FBI has their own uniformed police force Not all are gun and badge carriers, but techs and scientists. Most are a bunch of nerds that don't like to get their hands dirty. What are you scared of ? |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:07:57 AM EDT
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What's the issue with the OFFICIAL WORK contact info (basically a phone/e-mail directory) of PUBLIC EMPLOYEES being PUBLIC? "Hi Marcy, this is Bob in section 210 at building 27, ... Yeah the AC is still broken here... Look I have a problem, your boss Mr. Gibbons called here and asked me to set up access to a new network for him, but I don't have anyone from that department to check it for me. Could you try logging in for me to see if it works? The address, sure it's www..." Nope, no issue at all... |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:42:31 AM EDT
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I'm reading between the lines here that a top level DOJ boss clicked on something stupid in a suspicious email or ran his mouth too much outside the office. Social engineering is the method of convincing people to give up information or authorization that they should not have given. Each piece may not seem critical at the time, but it can start adding up. Back in my 2600 days, it was the easiest way of getting access. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:46:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: STOP treating hacking as a crime, and start treating it as a terroristic act. F'n FIND them and KILL them. Doesn't matter if they're a 30-year-old foreign agent or a 16-year-old dysfunctional teenager. END them. You'll see a lot of this crap stop. Too many people believe that the stuff they do over the internet has no consequences... about time it does. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 8:58:56 AM EDT
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Lots of non Special Agent job titles on that list Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The more interesting thing here is that we actually have 20,000 FBI agent. Lots of non Special Agent job titles on that list Feeb has a bunch of highly specialized technical positions as well as your usual administrative positions. In the old days PHD's were also gun toters, but these days they keep the PHD's doing the sciency, computery stuff and the gun toters doing agent stuff. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:06:23 AM EDT
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I laughed pretty hard when I got that letter in the mail. All that bullshit for a TS/SCI and all they sent me was a "whoops lol." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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still not close to what the OPM allowed. everyone with a clearance got fucked by that one. I laughed pretty hard when I got that letter in the mail. All that bullshit for a TS/SCI and all they sent me was a "whoops lol." Same. It took me almost 2 fucking years to get through that entire process end to end. Toss in the lifestyle poly and it was even worse. Then I get a goddamn letter saying "Our bad, here is some credit monitoring."
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:12:31 AM EDT
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https://www.rt.com/usa/331788-hacker-doj-fbi-doxxed/ Wonder if the IT worker who gave out the info could be criminally charged? Should. This crap happens all too often. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The hackers told Motherboard they accessed the information by compromising an email account of a Justice Department official. They used the email address to "social engineer” access to the DOJ intranet, calling technical support to give them a password.
"So I called up, told them I was new and I didn't understand how to get past [the portal],” one of the hackers told Motherboard. "They asked if I had a token code, I said no, they said ‘that's fine – just use our one’.” https://www.rt.com/usa/331788-hacker-doj-fbi-doxxed/ Wonder if the IT worker who gave out the info could be criminally charged? Should. This crap happens all too often. Should they be, though? Because here's the thing: The hackers posed as a DOJ official. This means they posed as someone who has juice, or at least someone who is the favored pet of somebody that has juice. Those sorts of people do not like being told "no" By "do not like" I mean they raise holy hell if they don't get what they want exactly when they want it. Even if it is against policy. They get mad, they start making phone calls or firing off emails and that communication gets to somebody who goes to the supervisors above the person that said "no" on the phone and insists that they just "fix it" and make the person happy. Against policy? Against best practices? MAKE THEM HAPPY RIGHT GODDAMN NOW. And that happens. Over. And over. And over. And over. Again. And again. And again. ...to the point where it becomes an SOP for them to have a fucking master token for what is supposed to be a two-factor authentication system that they hand out because some entitled ivy league shit working in DOJ will go fucking apoplectic if they don't get what they want exactly when they want it. So, no...I wouldn't lock the employee who handed out that token up for anything because that little cog does not steer the fucking machine. The people who steer the fucking machine should be the ones ground to powder over this sort of bullshit...but they never are. You want to talk about privilege, that's privilege. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:14:06 AM EDT
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I'm reading between the lines here that a top level DOJ boss clicked on something stupid in a suspicious email or ran his mouth too much outside the office. Or, as often happens, some DOJ boss has a flunkie to do all the shit he/she doesn't want to do that has access to all his/her passwords and accounts in direct contradiction to policy and it's been that way forever because who the fuck is going to tell one of the AG's pets that they can't do that? |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 9:18:56 AM EDT
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Our National Security is a big vagina. I was watching a show the other week about the White House and Secret Service. Basically, it was a brag piece of how hardened/secretive it is etc.... Yet some jabroni from PA flew his gyrocopter right to the front lawn. 
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Posted: 2/10/2016 2:27:59 PM EDT
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Should they be, though? Because here's the thing: The hackers posed as a DOJ official. This means they posed as someone who has juice, or at least someone who is the favored pet of somebody that has juice. Those sorts of people do not like being told "no" By "do not like" I mean they raise holy hell if they don't get what they want exactly when they want it. Even if it is against policy. They get mad, they start making phone calls or firing off emails and that communication gets to somebody who goes to the supervisors above the person that said "no" on the phone and insists that they just "fix it" and make the person happy. Against policy? Against best practices? MAKE THEM HAPPY RIGHT GODDAMN NOW. And that happens. Over. And over. And over. And over. Again. And again. And again. ...to the point where it becomes an SOP for them to have a fucking master token for what is supposed to be a two-factor authentication system that they hand out because some entitled ivy league shit working in DOJ will go fucking apoplectic if they don't get what they want exactly when they want it. So, no...I wouldn't lock the employee who handed out that token up for anything because that little cog does not steer the fucking machine. The people who steer the fucking machine should be the ones ground to powder over this sort of bullshit...but they never are. You want to talk about privilege, that's privilege. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The hackers told Motherboard they accessed the information by compromising an email account of a Justice Department official. They used the email address to "social engineer” access to the DOJ intranet, calling technical support to give them a password.
"So I called up, told them I was new and I didn't understand how to get past [the portal],” one of the hackers told Motherboard. "They asked if I had a token code, I said no, they said ‘that's fine – just use our one’.” https://www.rt.com/usa/331788-hacker-doj-fbi-doxxed/ Wonder if the IT worker who gave out the info could be criminally charged? Should. This crap happens all too often. Should they be, though? Because here's the thing: The hackers posed as a DOJ official. This means they posed as someone who has juice, or at least someone who is the favored pet of somebody that has juice. Those sorts of people do not like being told "no" By "do not like" I mean they raise holy hell if they don't get what they want exactly when they want it. Even if it is against policy. They get mad, they start making phone calls or firing off emails and that communication gets to somebody who goes to the supervisors above the person that said "no" on the phone and insists that they just "fix it" and make the person happy. Against policy? Against best practices? MAKE THEM HAPPY RIGHT GODDAMN NOW. And that happens. Over. And over. And over. And over. Again. And again. And again. ...to the point where it becomes an SOP for them to have a fucking master token for what is supposed to be a two-factor authentication system that they hand out because some entitled ivy league shit working in DOJ will go fucking apoplectic if they don't get what they want exactly when they want it. So, no...I wouldn't lock the employee who handed out that token up for anything because that little cog does not steer the fucking machine. The people who steer the fucking machine should be the ones ground to powder over this sort of bullshit...but they never are. You want to talk about privilege, that's privilege. Oooooh! kinda like Hilary you mean... ? |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 2:41:10 PM EDT
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STOP treating hacking as a crime, and start treating it as a terroristic act. F'n FIND them and KILL them. Doesn't matter if they're a 30-year-old foreign agent or a 16-year-old dysfunctional teenager. END them. You'll see a lot of this crap stop. Too many people believe that the stuff they do over the internet has no consequences... about time it does. The overwhelming majority of gov't IT infrastructure is run by either by incompetent "civil servants" using obsolete equipment and software, or by crony contractors selected by crooked political appointees and required to use the same obsolete equipment and software. The idea that they're going to be catching anyone is a fantasy - these agencies are fundamentally dysfunctional, and they're incapable of doing it. The entire government is groaning under the weight of its own incompetence, and you expect them to play super-sleuth? They can't even keep their own people from handing out passwords to damn near anyone. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 3:55:56 PM EDT
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I read that the IRS was hacked again, but they are claiming no info was taken, but people will be getting a letter
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Posted: 2/10/2016 3:59:01 PM EDT
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OPM, DHS, FBI...
Yet they still haven't compromised and leaked the NFRTR. Pathetic. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 4:10:12 PM EDT
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so where does one see the information?
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Posted: 2/10/2016 4:11:50 PM EDT
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Lists everywhere..we need a list of all the people making lists..
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Posted: 2/10/2016 4:15:19 PM EDT
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Public office should be public information.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 4:22:03 PM EDT
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I have a family member who is one of the gun toting agents. He doesn't divulge much but he investigates some pretty heavy organizations.
Not good news. |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 6:26:29 PM EDT
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STOP treating hacking as a crime, and start treating it as a terroristic act. F'n FIND them and KILL them. Doesn't matter if they're a 30-year-old foreign agent or a 16-year-old dysfunctional teenager. END them. You'll see a lot of this crap stop. Too many people believe that the stuff they do over the internet has no consequences... about time it does I'm with this guy. Give the .gov more power to determine what is/isn't terrorism, and then let them execute the accused. Nothing could go wrong! |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 6:37:01 PM EDT
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I say Hillary is behind it as a diversion from them breathing down her neck.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:06:39 AM EDT
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I say Hillary is behind it as a diversion from them breathing down her neck. On any given day in any given government agency there is enough incompetence and malfeasance to make at least three headlines. My general distrust of government is a direct result of having worked for it. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:17:29 AM EDT
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What's the issue with the OFFICIAL WORK contact info (basically a phone/e-mail directory) of PUBLIC EMPLOYEES being PUBLIC? This is what I was wondering. So they got their email address, big f#$%Ing deal. Or was it all of their home addresses, photos, and work schedules that got published? |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:19:44 AM EDT
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Scully, Dana...
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:20:15 AM EDT
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We have some seriously incompetent people running the US government and it's various agencies; unfortunately I'm not surprised. File early if you're due a refund. The IRS was hacked and someone may be trying to beat you to it.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:29:01 AM EDT
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Is it bad that I don't care? This stuff happens all the time to all sorts of people.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:32:03 AM EDT
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I agree with John_Wayne777 and boltcatch. The work I've done with government IT folks has shown me that they're mostly mediocre to incompetent and led by whiny, entitled bitches who general don't know their ass from their elbow.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 7:34:19 PM EDT
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I agree with John_Wayne777 and boltcatch. The work I've done with government IT folks has shown me that they're mostly mediocre to incompetent and led by whiny, entitled bitches who general don't know their ass from their elbow. I've found that to be a function of the paltry salaries they are willing to pony up with the ridiculous requirements to accompany them. Combine that with the issue that the FBI brought up, being that the zero tolerance for marijuana use by anyone in federal service, and you have a recipe for mediocrity. Especially if you are a white guy trying to land a job in an affirmative action paradise. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 7:36:51 PM EDT
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"But by god, let's keep beating the drum about cell phone encryption, because we want to lose your data, too!"
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