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Posted: 2/8/2016 5:57:05 PM EDT
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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/08/mexico-wont-pay-single-cent-for-trumps-stupid-wall.html Donald Trump may want to build a wall across the U.S. southern border to keep Mexican migrants out but don't expect Mexico to pay for it, former President Felipe Calderon told CNBC, calling the billionaire a "not very well-informed man." "Mexican people, we are not going to pay any single cent for such a stupid wall! And it's going to be completely useless," Calderon said.  If the wall would not work it would have already been built.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 5:57:12 PM EDT
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US builds the wall. Cuts Mexico off 100% . Mexico still pays for the wall.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 5:58:04 PM EDT
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contact bernie sanders, he has a plan for free college, a car would be cheap in comparison. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, they probably wont write a check for it, but im guessing it would be quite easy to get them to fund it indirectly. I am looking for a new car. How do I get you to fund it indirectly for me? contact bernie sanders, he has a plan for free college, a car would be cheap in comparison. So the wall is socialist. I knew it. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:00:50 PM EDT
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Let me tell you what I would do. When I am elected President, I will send the Army into Mexico. They will seize a one kilometer wide strip of territory and the said territory will thoroughly be seeded with landmines, booby traps and remote control guns. Think Berlin Wall, but better. Then half a kilometer before the border, there will be multiple sections of razor wire. Then more land mines. Then there will be a wall and the wall will be paid for by savings in welfare programs. I would eliminate welfare and use the money saved to build a wall. A very tall wall. "How can you shoot women...........children???" You don't lead them so much
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:01:35 PM EDT
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Don't care what it takes.
Claymores, bouncing betties, pits & punji stakes, automated machine guns, gas dispensers, electric fencing, frikkin' laser beams, whatever. Close that border, permanently, implement immigration policy reciprocal and equivalent to that of Mexico. Launch the illegals back over the border with a damn trebuchet if you have to, but get them out of here and shut it down. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:01:46 PM EDT
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They will not but we can just take a little bit of the aid money we give Mexico and use it for wall and fence construction
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:02:49 PM EDT
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I'm backing Cruz in the primary but if Trump gets the nod I will vote for him in the general election. If Trump builds the wall, and I don't care who pays for it, I hope it really is YUUUGE! And visible from motherfuckin' SPACE! |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:03:30 PM EDT
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Here's a crazy idea....
If Trump decides that a Wall is essential to our National Security, why not say so and make it a priority in his National Security Strategy? Congress can then budget for the Wall and pay for it. Tying it to a violation of NAFTA and a scheme to have Mexico pay for it only means that he isn't serious about it. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:04:00 PM EDT
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Don't care what it takes. Claymores, bouncing betties, pits & punji stakes, automated machine guns, gas dispensers, electric fencing, frikkin' laser beams, whatever. Close that border, permanently, implement immigration policy reciprocal and equivalent to that of Mexico. Launch the illegals back over the border with a damn trebuchet if you have to, but get them out of here and shut it down. It has been tried before. Guess what happened. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:04:40 PM EDT
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Que? No habla.
Moar free shit, plz. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:06:49 PM EDT
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Says the man, building a fence on the Guatemalan border. Why doesn't the press do a little digging?
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:07:00 PM EDT
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The problem is our welfare system, not immigration.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:08:12 PM EDT
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He's right,the wall wouldn't stop much at all.Over,under,through....... Supply and demand-get rid of the free school,anchor baby bullshit,welfare,tax "refunds",free medical care,no job if you aren't legal,no drivers license,etc and they will have no reason to come here. The key is altering incentives. However, the wall is part of those incentives, making entry more risky or expensive. Walls don't have to be 100% effective to have an effect. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:09:39 PM EDT
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Says the man, building a fence on the Guatemalan border. Why doesn't the press do a little digging? If Trump said that he was going to make China pay for our Aircraft Carriers in the Pacific, China would probably say... " "The Chinese people will not pay for a stupid aircraft carrier" Pointing to the fact that they build their OWN carriers would not be much of an argument. Trump looks silly. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:09:52 PM EDT
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Lol. Understand that it won't make a lick of difference on them coming over here. The drug cartels control the crossing routs by land, sea, and air. They have hundreds of tunnels. I know for a fact they have tons of border patrol (from the bottom to the top) on the payroll. They ship right across the the ports of entry and customs looks the other way. A stupid wall won't help with the corruption. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll gladly accept a tax increase to build a wall. Lol. Understand that it won't make a lick of difference on them coming over here. The drug cartels control the crossing routs by land, sea, and air. They have hundreds of tunnels. I know for a fact they have tons of border patrol (from the bottom to the top) on the payroll. They ship right across the the ports of entry and customs looks the other way. A stupid wall won't help with the corruption. all is fixable with the will to fix it. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:10:16 PM EDT
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He's not wrong. this. trump knows a wall is not going to work and hes not gong to build one. the only way is to make it very unprofitable for companies to hire illegals, with huge fines and jail time. then cut all benefits to non citizens. problem will quickly be solved. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:10:54 PM EDT
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"migrants"? Fuck him.
With hold aid, fund the wall. Fuck you again. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:11:52 PM EDT
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I don't expect them to, but I do expect them to get the fuck out of the country and never come back!
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:13:15 PM EDT
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all is fixable with the will to fix it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll gladly accept a tax increase to build a wall. Lol. Understand that it won't make a lick of difference on them coming over here. The drug cartels control the crossing routs by land, sea, and air. They have hundreds of tunnels. I know for a fact they have tons of border patrol (from the bottom to the top) on the payroll. They ship right across the the ports of entry and customs looks the other way. A stupid wall won't help with the corruption. all is fixable with the will to fix it. Yes, all we have to do is ignore reality and march off in a stupid direction without much thought. Success will be achieved if we just have the will to keep going. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:13:52 PM EDT
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Yup, I'm sure that's how the budgeting process will work. Trump will walk over to Congress and tell them to cease funding any and all foreign aid to Mexico, and "redirect those funds" to a wall building project. Congress will meekly comply, in spite of the details and actual effects. Then the Senate will pass that budget without hesitation, and trump will get his wall. Yup. That's just how it will happen. 
If that DOESN'T happen, will Trump veto every budget until they do this? Will he be a Cruz-like "maniac" and shut down the government over it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How much money does the federal government give to Mexico each year? Redirect those funds to pay for a wall. Boom! Done. Pays for it in 2 years. Yup, I'm sure that's how the budgeting process will work. Trump will walk over to Congress and tell them to cease funding any and all foreign aid to Mexico, and "redirect those funds" to a wall building project. Congress will meekly comply, in spite of the details and actual effects. Then the Senate will pass that budget without hesitation, and trump will get his wall. Yup. That's just how it will happen.
If that DOESN'T happen, will Trump veto every budget until they do this? Will he be a Cruz-like "maniac" and shut down the government over it? It's worked that way for the past seven years why would it stop. 
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:15:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's mad. Of course they don't want to pay for it. "Silver or Lead", I say. And if those uppity Canadians want to get in on the action we can send some love their way as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/08/mexico-wont-pay-single-cent-for-trumps-stupid-wall.html Donald Trump may want to build a wall across the U.S. southern border to keep Mexican migrants out but don't expect Mexico to pay for it, former President Felipe Calderon told CNBC, calling the billionaire a "not very well-informed man." "Mexican people, we are not going to pay any single cent for such a stupid wall! And it's going to be completely useless," Calderon said. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:17:43 PM EDT
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Tarrifs for non-compliance, how do they work? Ask the 535 members of Congress who will have nothing of the sort, no matter how much Trump blusters about it. We're not electing a monarch, though I'm beginning to think a lot of members here wish we were. 
It's just as bad as the candidates who say "I will eliminate the IRS". No you fucking won't, and you know it. It's straight up pandering and it borders on insulting. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:19:54 PM EDT
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All the able bodied Mexicans are already here. Round them up to build the wall, free labor. Mexico City pays for the wall or they start receiving B-52 strikes.
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:20:11 PM EDT
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Berlin-wall to keep people in.
U.S.-wall to keep people OUT. see the difference? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:21:01 PM EDT
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Tarrifs for non-compliance, how do they work? We charge the US taxpayers more money for common products. That's how they work. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:21:34 PM EDT
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Someone tell me what the point of a wall is when they dig tunnels that are miles long?
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:22:12 PM EDT
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Berlin-wall to keep people in. U.S.-wall to keep people OUT. see the difference? If you are against walls, you must be a commie. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:22:59 PM EDT
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Someone tell me what the point of a wall is when they dig tunnels that are miles long? Tar and feather him! He's got common sense! |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:24:56 PM EDT
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Or tax the hell out of the cash going south. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tarrifs for non-compliance, how do they work? Or tax the hell out of the cash going south. This. Will it work? Who knows but the crying will be glorious |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:26:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIrony. This photo has it. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:27:34 PM EDT
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We could sell the harvested organs of the illegals we catch to fund it.
But then if we did this, we probably would not need much more than a strip of yellow caution tape. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:28:17 PM EDT
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they are not only going to pay for it, but they are going to like it.
And they will thank us for not sending the 3rd ID through their crappy country shooting the snot out of everything just for fun.............. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:30:55 PM EDT
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Well duh...
Is anyone other than Trump dumb enough to believe otherwise? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:32:07 PM EDT
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Someone tell me what the point of a wall is when they dig tunnels that are miles long? I don't get it either. And honestly, I think a wall is an obscene waste of money. Trump obviously agrees with me, because he doesn't think it's important enough to our national security to pay for ourselves. He also knows Mexico isn't paying for shit (he's not entirely stupid), so he and I are in likely agreement when it comes to the almost comical futility of building a fuckin' wall to fix an immigration problem. He also doesn't think very highly of his supporters. He's consciously bullshitting them because he thinks they're morons who will eat it up. He's not wrong in that regard, but it's still not very nice of him. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:32:43 PM EDT
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Let me tell you what I would do. When I am elected President, I will send the Army into Mexico. They will seize a one kilometer wide strip of territory and the said territory will thoroughly be seeded with landmines, booby traps and remote control guns. Think Berlin Wall, but betterer. Then half a kilometer before the border, there will be multiple sections of razor wire. Then more land mines. Then there will be a wall--the Great Wall of FTC. I would eliminate welfare and I would use the money saved to build a wall. A very tall wall. I would also sell advertizing that would be painted onto the wall. Perhaps even the naming rights to the wall. Spoken like someone who has never lived within 100 miles of the Mexican border. Mine your own backyard first. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:32:52 PM EDT
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this. trump knows a wall is not going to work and hes not gong to build one. the only way is to make it very unprofitable for companies to hire illegals, with huge fines and jail time. then cut all benefits to non citizens. problem will quickly be solved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's not wrong. this. trump knows a wall is not going to work and hes not gong to build one. the only way is to make it very unprofitable for companies to hire illegals, with huge fines and jail time. then cut all benefits to non citizens. problem will quickly be solved. Not if business owners (mostly Republicans) have anything to say about it. Dirty little secret: America likes illegal immigrants. America needs illegal immigrants. They do the jobs Americans don't want. The employers pay them less so they're good for the bottom line. And the don't unionize. America loves cheap illegal immigrant labor. Entire industries would collapse with out them. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:32:58 PM EDT
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"Mexican people, we are not going to pay any single cent for such a stupid wall! .............. Yeah, we know. We want a SMART WALL. Cameras, intrusion detection, the works. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:33:36 PM EDT
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Well duh... Is anyone other than Trump dumb enough to believe otherwise? Never been to GD before. 
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:35:02 PM EDT
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So what you're saying is there is a job Americans want to do?
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A WHOLE SHIT load of non-union day laborers would happily build the wall, for cheap. So what you're saying is there is a job Americans want to do?
I would work on it for free in my spare time, just supply me with beer and sandwiches for my break. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:35:20 PM EDT
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Two sorts of individuals whose opinions regarding American Presidential elections mean less than dried up shit in a manure pile.
Canadian internet trolls and ex - presidents of Mexico like that corrupt piece of putrid dog shit Calderon. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:36:12 PM EDT
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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/08/mexico-wont-pay-single-cent-for-trumps-stupid-wall.html Donald Trump may want to build a wall across the U.S. southern border to keep Mexican migrants out but don't expect Mexico to pay for it, former President Felipe Calderon told CNBC, calling the billionaire a "not very well-informed man." "Mexican people, we are not going to pay any single cent for such a stupid wall! And it's going to be completely useless," Calderon said. He mad. And the Canuck is being a Canuck. Do you really think he would praise Trump when Trump wants to stop the flow of immigration and invoke conditional tariffs onto Mexico to pay for the wall? Pretty funny that he says Trump is "not very well-informed". Dude needs to look in the mirror. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:36:44 PM EDT
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Good question... Are tariffs imposed by Presidential decree? Do Presidents have the authority to void U.S. Law? If so, he should have no problems. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tarrifs for non-compliance, how do they work? Good question... Are tariffs imposed by Presidential decree? Do Presidents have the authority to void U.S. Law? If so, he should have no problems. yes. see Obama, barrack h. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:36:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah! Use the same plan that worked so well for the commies in Berlin. That's the kind of people we are! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Let me tell you what I would do. When I am elected President, I will send the Army into Mexico. They will seize a one kilometer wide strip of territory and the said territory will thoroughly be seeded with landmines, booby traps and remote control guns. Think Berlin Wall, but better. Then half a kilometer before the border, there will be multiple sections of razor wire. Then more land mines. Then there will be a wall and the wall will be paid for by savings in welfare programs. I would eliminate welfare and use the money saved to build a wall. A very tall wall. "How can you shoot women...........children???" There would be adequate notice posted and if one got past the razor wire, the resulting misfortune would be on them. Yeah! Use the same plan that worked so well for the commies in Berlin. That's the kind of people we are! Whats your plan to combat illegal crossing of our border? |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:36:59 PM EDT
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Two sorts of individuals whose opinions regarding American Presidential elections mean less than dried up shit in a manure pile. Canadians and ex - presidents of Mexico like that corrupt piece of putrid dog shit Calderon. So now we need a wall with Canada, too? Oh, shit. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:38:00 PM EDT
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I am looking for a new car. How do I get you to fund it indirectly for me? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, they probably wont write a check for it, but im guessing it would be quite easy to get them to fund it indirectly. I am looking for a new car. How do I get you to fund it indirectly for me? It'd be really damn simple if you and I were already trading partners. But since we're not, your comparison isn't a good one and your logic is unsound. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:38:39 PM EDT
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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/02/08/mexico-wont-pay-single-cent-for-trumps-stupid-wall.html Donald Trump may want to build a wall across the U.S. southern border to keep Mexican migrants out but don't expect Mexico to pay for it, former President Felipe Calderon told CNBC, calling the billionaire a "not very well-informed man." "Mexican people, we are not going to pay any single cent for such a stupid wall! And it's going to be completely useless," Calderon said. The Mexican people are not entitled to cross the border for schooling, medical work, work, or send remittanes without hefty taxes, entrance fees. Nor is the Mexican government entitled to military aid, or any other type of aid. Mexican made products are not entitled to be imported without duties, taxes, other other fees, any treaty that call for such allounces are subject to repeal. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:38:42 PM EDT
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Whats your plan to combat illegal crossing of our border? Last I heard, illegal immigration was close to a net zero lately. Personally, I would probably lean toward things that gave them an incentive to stay home. People who don't think they are eating properly are pretty fucking hard to discourage. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:38:42 PM EDT
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Yes they will.
They don't need to agree nor be a willing participant...but they will pay for it.  |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:39:38 PM EDT
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It'd be really damn simple if you and I were already trading partners. But since we're not, your comparison isn't a good one and your logic is unsound. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, they probably wont write a check for it, but im guessing it would be quite easy to get them to fund it indirectly. I am looking for a new car. How do I get you to fund it indirectly for me? It'd be really damn simple if you and I were already trading partners. But since we're not, your comparison isn't a good one and your logic is unsound. Ok, then 'splain how it works in words a stupid guy like me can understand. Do what Trump never tried to do. |
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Posted: 2/8/2016 6:39:42 PM EDT
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OH they'll pay, just not how he thinks.
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