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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:06:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You couldn't even hit paper half the time on that target at that distance so stop comparing yourself to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Meet the challenge on pg 2 or you are all talk.  .You couldn't even hit paper half the time on that target at that distance so stop comparing yourself to me. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:07:48 AM EDT
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On some days my targets look better. On some days they look like that. On the days that they look like that I ask myself what I was doing differently. I think what's important to take away from the feedback, even the bluntly given feedback, is what could I be doing to improve? I don't get to the range as often as I'd like anymore so I try to make the best of it, if that means slowing way down and just practicing my fundamentals again instead of funner stuff so be it, the skill degrades quickly and it's obvious when it has to me.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:10:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:17:48 AM EDT
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Okay so here's all the rules so far:
Must be a gun you carry, which apparently OP carries a G17 Shoot blazer brass ammo Have someone shooting a loud gun next to you Be hungry Find the same exact target OP used Use a shitty striker fired gun, even though OP can shoot hammer guns like a laser Be 50 whole feet away Is there any other stipulations you would like to put on this challenge to make it impossible for anyone to replicate your experience? I was going to give this a legit try tomorrow, but this is just getting silly. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:26:04 AM EDT
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Okay so here's all the rules so far: Must be a gun you carry, which apparently OP carries a G17 Shoot blazer brass ammo Have someone shooting a loud gun next to you Be hungry Find the same exact target OP used Use a shitty striker fired gun, even though OP can shoot hammer guns like a laser Be 50 whole feet away Is there any other stipulations you would like to put on this challenge to make it impossible for anyone to replicate your experience? I was going to give this a legit try tomorrow, but this is just getting silly. fuck his rules, I'll shoot at 50 ft with my sp01 using S&B 115 gr and he can cry about it if he wants. eta: and it is my carry gun |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:29:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Okay so here's all the rules so far: Must be a gun you carry, which apparently OP carries a G17 Shoot blazer brass ammo Have someone shooting a loud gun next to you Be hungry Find the same exact target OP used Use a shitty striker fired gun, even though OP can shoot hammer guns like a laser Be 50 whole feet away Is there any other stipulations you would like to put on this challenge to make it impossible for anyone to replicate your experience? I was going to give this a legit try tomorrow, but this is just getting silly. Free standing, unsupported. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:36:31 AM EDT
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How big is the black circle? 4in?
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:38:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Free standing, unsupported. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Okay so here's all the rules so far: Must be a gun you carry, which apparently OP carries a G17 Shoot blazer brass ammo Have someone shooting a loud gun next to you Be hungry Find the same exact target OP used Use a shitty striker fired gun, even though OP can shoot hammer guns like a laser Be 50 whole feet away Is there any other stipulations you would like to put on this challenge to make it impossible for anyone to replicate your experience? I was going to give this a legit try tomorrow, but this is just getting silly. Free standing, unsupported.  |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:43:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would that be good enough to qualify for a CCW permit? yeah, marksmenship standards are pretty low for CCW permits |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:45:01 AM EDT
[#10]
Looks like minute of bad guy.
Move closer and/or slow down. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:47:47 AM EDT
[#11]
You stacked rounds with the vp9 for what appears to be about 3-4 rounds, then shit went crazy. Kinda like you were scared of the recoil throughout the firing sequence
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Posted: 2/7/2016 2:10:09 AM EDT
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If I am being held hostage please do not attempt to save me, please do not!!!!!!!
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Posted: 2/7/2016 2:42:08 AM EDT
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How big is the black circle? 4in? Quote HistoryQuoted:
How big is the black circle? 4in? Taken from the NRA Pistol Rules: 4.3 50 foot timed or rapid fi re - 9 and 10 rings black. Target No. B-3. X ring ......................0.90 in 10 ring ....................1.80 in 9 ring .......................3.06 in 8 ring .......................4.46 in 7 ring .......................6.14 in 6 ring .......................8.32 in http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/rulebooks/pistol/pistol-book.pdf |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 6:06:16 AM EDT
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TTT
Burnsy, Bison and Boxofrox are called out to show us how well they can shoot at the NRA B-3 target or equivalent at 50 ft, with carry gun, shooting their plinking ammo of choice. One complete mag. for a group. Standing, unsupported. First target of the day. Just like I said on pg 2. Or else you're just all talk. Everybody else who thinks that is "terrible" shooting is more than welcome to put up or shut up as well. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 6:13:08 AM EDT
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Looks like minute of bad guy. Move closer and/or slow down. Yeah why didn't I shoot a little ragged hole at 7 ft. Then you all would have thought I was an incredible shot. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 6:15:43 AM EDT
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You stacked rounds with the vp9 for what appears to be about 3-4 rounds, then shit went crazy. Kinda like you were scared of the recoil throughout the firing sequence If that's being scared of recoil most people must have to clean out their pants after shooting as bad as they shoot. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 6:42:37 AM EDT
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Meh
at least you got out and shot. I haven't fired a handgun in almost two years. 50 feet's a long way to shoot anyways. From the looks of it you hit the target every time. Not bad My club has an indoor 25 yard pistol range and when I was really into shooting I could group some where around 4" shooting unsupported and firing one of my 1911"s I doubt I could do that now |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 7:24:57 AM EDT
[#18]
Dolphin is a troll. Bad dolphin.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 7:32:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TTT Burnsy, Bison and Boxofrox are called out to show us how well they can shoot at the NRA B-3 target or equivalent at 50 ft, with carry gun, shooting their plinking ammo of choice. One complete mag. for a group. Standing, unsupported. First target of the day. Just like I said on pg 2. Or else you're just all talk. Everybody else who thinks that is "terrible" shooting is more than welcome to put up or shut up as well. LOL grow the fuck up chump. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 7:39:16 AM EDT
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You don't need anyone's opinion on your groups because you already think they are pretty damn good. If those groups make you happy, great. Be happy with yourself. I'm going to go read something else.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 7:40:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2016 8:07:42 AM EDT
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I'll go shoot my carry gun today. Can you can repost your target with a ruler on it, or at least tell me the dia of the circle?
Edit: Are you going to freak out if I use plain Jane UMC bulk ammo? |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 8:20:21 AM EDT
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I've never shot Blazer Brass with any sort of consistency.
It's been awhile but that group reminds me of what I used to shoot with my G19 and Blazer ammo, rested, at about that range. My XDsc would almost always outshoot the G19. Come to think of it, almost every 9mm I own would outshoot the Glock. It's probably just me though. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 8:36:06 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryAgreed. I just found my 25 MOA targets that I never entered. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 8:40:22 AM EDT
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It's the internet, ignore the critics. With the proper practice you can shrink the size of the groups you posted considerably. There's some good advice in the posts prior to mine on how to do it. An extremely high percentage of self defense shooting happen inside of 10 feet making slow fire target accuracy relatively unimportant. Situational awareness and knowing the ins and outs of defensive tactics are more important than shooting skills. If a bad guy has drawn on you first the odds are in his favor. I'd suggest a course by a respected instructor for everyone that hasn't had training in all things related to self defense with a firearm.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 8:47:34 AM EDT
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Trigger finger placement experiment
At what distamce do you fall apart at. OP, you need to take a different approach... |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 8:54:42 AM EDT
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I shoot similar targets at 15 yards. You have no grouping so something is wonky with either your ammo, your barrel, or your shooting.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 8:56:42 AM EDT
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It depends on how fast you were shooting and your stress level at the time.
If that was slow fire you either need glasses or practice or better technique. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 9:04:51 AM EDT
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That ain't bad from 50 ft. IMHO.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 9:52:11 AM EDT
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Taken from the NRA Pistol Rules: http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/rulebooks/pistol/pistol-book.pdf Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How big is the black circle? 4in? Taken from the NRA Pistol Rules: 4.3 50 foot timed or rapid fi re - 9 and 10 rings black. Target No. B-3. X ring ......................0.90 in 10 ring ....................1.80 in 9 ring .......................3.06 in 8 ring .......................4.46 in 7 ring .......................6.14 in 6 ring .......................8.32 in http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/rulebooks/pistol/pistol-book.pdf For you "seasoned shooters" who seem to have never seen one of the most common and oldest pistol targets around, there it is above. I don't think you've all been shooting recently enough to even remember how well you shoot. I see lots of excuses. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 9:56:40 AM EDT
[#31]
VBC thread.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 9:58:24 AM EDT
[#32]
^ the details of the target. Please be the first one to actually try it under my challenge instead of hurling insults. Your plinking ammo of choice is fine. No hamdloads no target pistols. Your carry gun.
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I'll go shoot my carry gun today. Can you can repost your target with a ruler on it, or at least tell me the dia of the circle? Edit: Are you going to freak out if I use plain Jane UMC bulk ammo? |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 9:59:01 AM EDT
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which model shot gun ya shooting again ?
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Posted: 2/7/2016 9:59:49 AM EDT
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ROFL, so you post garbage shooting in the OP then troll everyone into a call out on thier accuracy? LOL grow the fuck up chump. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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TTT Burnsy, Bison and Boxofrox are called out to show us how well they can shoot at the NRA B-3 target or equivalent at 50 ft, with carry gun, shooting their plinking ammo of choice. One complete mag. for a group. Standing, unsupported. First target of the day. Just like I said on pg 2. Or else you're just all talk. Everybody else who thinks that is "terrible" shooting is more than welcome to put up or shut up as well. LOL grow the fuck up chump. That's not garbage shooting. It's not the best but it's far from garbage son. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:03:55 AM EDT
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I shoot similar targets at 15 yards. You have no grouping so something is wonky with either your ammo, your barrel, or your shooting. There is nothng wrong with my guns or ammo. Let's see what you can do if think that's lousy shooting. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:10:04 AM EDT
[#36]
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That ain't bad from 50 ft. IMHO. Agreed. Ain't bad. That's not the best (or the best I can do) or the best cherry picked target of the day. It is what it is. First target up for the day with my striker fired carry guns using plinking ammo. i.e representative of what you can do if forced to shoot cold bore from your carry gun. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:11:07 AM EDT
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Agreed. Ain't bad. That's not the best (or the best I can do) or the best cherry picked target of the day. It is what it is. First target up for the day with my striker fired carry guns using plinking ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That ain't bad from 50 ft. IMHO. Agreed. Ain't bad. That's not the best (or the best I can do) or the best cherry picked target of the day. It is what it is. First target up for the day with my striker fired carry guns using plinking ammo. 50 ft is quite a long way for a handgun. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:15:15 AM EDT
[#38]
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50 ft is quite a long way for a handgun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That ain't bad from 50 ft. IMHO. Agreed. Ain't bad. That's not the best (or the best I can do) or the best cherry picked target of the day. It is what it is. First target up for the day with my striker fired carry guns using plinking ammo. 50 ft is quite a long way for a handgun. It is a little ways out there considering most people shoot no futher than 7 to 10 yds. Especially at that particular target with combat sights that obscure the black. A target gun with 6 oclock hold target sights, long sight radius and crisp hammer fired trigger would have smoked it. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:33:05 AM EDT
[#39]
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Trigger finger placement experiment At what distamce do you fall apart at. OP, you need to take a different approach... All you guys with your 'advice' aren't telling me anything I don't already know and employ to try to improve my shootng. I've been on this site a long time and read all the same things. I just know how well people shoot in general and I know a lot of you guys are fooling yourselves. Sure there are some that shoot better but not all of you. Especially the ones who think that is terrible shooting or something wrong the gun or ammo. Go shoot the challenge and see how bad you suck. Just for your own learning. You don't even have to post your embarassing results. Except the ones I called out.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:46:44 AM EDT
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There is nothng wrong with my guns or ammo. Let's see what you can do if think that's lousy shooting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I shoot similar targets at 15 yards. You have no grouping so something is wonky with either your ammo, your barrel, or your shooting. There is nothng wrong with my guns or ammo. Let's see what you can do if think that's lousy shooting. I have some pictures at home. I will post them. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:54:25 AM EDT
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I have some pictures at home. I will post them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I shoot similar targets at 15 yards. You have no grouping so something is wonky with either your ammo, your barrel, or your shooting. There is nothng wrong with my guns or ammo. Let's see what you can do if think that's lousy shooting. I have some pictures at home. I will post them. Why can't you go to the range or backyard and shoot the NRA B-3 target or equivalant at 50 ft or 16,6 or 17 yds with your carry gun and post the first target as well? Then I will know for sure you are better than me and you will too. You'll have plenty of time. I won't let the thread die if you need a few days for time off to go shoot. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:58:50 AM EDT
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For you "seasoned shooters" who seem to have never seen one of the most common and oldest pistol targets around, there it is above. I don't think you've all been shooting recently enough to even remember how well you shoot. I see lots of excuses. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How big is the black circle? 4in? Taken from the NRA Pistol Rules: 4.3 50 foot timed or rapid fi re - 9 and 10 rings black. Target No. B-3. X ring ......................0.90 in 10 ring ....................1.80 in 9 ring .......................3.06 in 8 ring .......................4.46 in 7 ring .......................6.14 in 6 ring .......................8.32 in http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/rulebooks/pistol/pistol-book.pdf For you "seasoned shooters" who seem to have never seen one of the most common and oldest pistol targets around, there it is above. I don't think you've all been shooting recently enough to even remember how well you shoot. I see lots of excuses. I have a confession. I've never been to an indoor pistol range in my whole life, and only in the last 12 months have I ever been to an outdoor pistol range. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:09:04 AM EDT
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I have a confession. I've never been to an indoor pistol range in my whole life, and only in the last 12 months have I ever been to an outdoor pistol range. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How big is the black circle? 4in? Taken from the NRA Pistol Rules: 4.3 50 foot timed or rapid fi re - 9 and 10 rings black. Target No. B-3. X ring ......................0.90 in 10 ring ....................1.80 in 9 ring .......................3.06 in 8 ring .......................4.46 in 7 ring .......................6.14 in 6 ring .......................8.32 in http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/rulebooks/pistol/pistol-book.pdf For you "seasoned shooters" who seem to have never seen one of the most common and oldest pistol targets around, there it is above. I don't think you've all been shooting recently enough to even remember how well you shoot. I see lots of excuses. I have a confession. I've never been to an indoor pistol range in my whole life, and only in the last 12 months have I ever been to an outdoor pistol range. Kind of disappointed because I was looking forward to you showing me how it's done, but I appreciate your confession. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:23:40 AM EDT
[#44]
I can step out to my own personal range, but to properly replicate your shooting, I would have to be at a real range.
It's pretty windy here today, can you reshoot with a fan blowing at you see we can all be fair here? |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:31:23 AM EDT
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. Everyone on the internet is a sniper. I agree, most people I see at the range suck. And they shoot better groups than that. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:32:28 AM EDT
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I can step out to my own personal range, but to properly replicate your shooting, I would have to be at a real range. It's pretty windy here today, can you reshoot with a fan blowing at you see we can all be fair here? Ok I see you got your spunk back in you. Shoot it outside during dead calm conditions with little birds chirping around if you want. Just make sure it's 50 ft, standing unsupported with your carry gun. First target counts. Shoot both sides of the target. One complete mag per the group. B-3 target or one drawn to the same dimensions. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:33:55 AM EDT
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Everyone on the internet is a sniper. I agree, most people I see at the range suck. And they shoot better groups than that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. Everyone on the internet is a sniper. I agree, most people I see at the range suck. And they shoot better groups than that. I suspect you're another who doesn't know how small those targets are at 50 ft. You see most people shooting better than that at 10 ft. Not 50 ft. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:35:27 AM EDT
[#48]
First, I am not that great because I don't practice that much.
OP, it's a start, not all that great. Some on here have given good advice, try it, see if you can improve. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:36:11 AM EDT
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ROFL, so you post garbage shooting in the OP then troll everyone into a call out on thier accuracy? LOL grow the fuck up chump. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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TTT Burnsy, Bison and Boxofrox are called out to show us how well they can shoot at the NRA B-3 target or equivalent at 50 ft, with carry gun, shooting their plinking ammo of choice. One complete mag. for a group. Standing, unsupported. First target of the day. Just like I said on pg 2. Or else you're just all talk. Everybody else who thinks that is "terrible" shooting is more than welcome to put up or shut up as well. LOL grow the fuck up chump. I think OP was hoping this would turn into the MOA challenge thread for pistols LOL. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 11:38:14 AM EDT
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I suspect you're another who doesn't know how small those targets are at 50 ft. You see most people shooting better than that at 10 ft. Not 50 ft. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. Everyone on the internet is a sniper. I agree, most people I see at the range suck. And they shoot better groups than that. I suspect you're another who doesn't know how small those targets are at 50 ft. You see most people shooting better than that at 10 ft. Not 50 ft. Most people who suck don't try to shoot a small target at 50ft.
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