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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:45:36 PM EDT
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No he's not. Your shooting is terrible. I'm guessing you aren't focusing on your sight alignment properly because you're all over the damn place. Learn how the iron sights work and where to focus your eyes because those groups suck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You need more practice. I have a vp9 and can easily keep those shots in the black at 15 yards. I was working on 40 yard shots not to long ago and the group at 40 is better then those you have posted. My 15 yard groups are fairly rapid fire. Are you shooting both eyes open or do you close one? I say you're full of shit. No he's not. Your shooting is terrible. I'm guessing you aren't focusing on your sight alignment properly because you're all over the damn place. Learn how the iron sights work and where to focus your eyes because those groups suck. Again, another person who thinks they are a lot better than they really are. Terrible? You must be smoking some good shit. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:47:36 PM EDT
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. Why, yes. Yes we are. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:49:35 PM EDT
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. Why, yes. Yes we are. Put you money where your mouth is. I threw down the challenge on page 2. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:52:59 PM EDT
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Before you call bullshit on me, this is an example of decent shooting. I shot this at about 12 yards with a Glock 35 I'd just bought. Nothing special about the gun, at all. The fliers were my fault because my aim starts to wander just a bit after 20 or so rounds.
I think this was 35 rounds:  ETA: I see you already posted a smartass reply instead of listening to someone who can actually shoot. Just face it, you need help/practice. There's nothing worse than a shitty shooter who thinks they already have shit figured out. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:55:03 PM EDT
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Before you call bullshit on me, this is an example of decent shooting. I shot this at about 12 yards with a Glock 35 I'd just bought. Nothing special about the gun, at all. The fliers were my fault because my aim starts to wander just a bit after 20 or so rounds. I think this was 35 rounds: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo21_zps9077cfb7.jpg Decent. Is that your CCW gun? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:55:39 PM EDT
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Before you call bullshit on me, this is an example of decent shooting. I shot this at about 12 yards with a Glock 35 I'd just bought. Nothing special about the gun, at all. The fliers were my fault because my aim starts to wander just a bit after 20 or so rounds. I think this was 35 rounds: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo21_zps9077cfb7.jpg ETA: I see you already posted a smartass reply instead of listening to someone who can actually shoot. Just face it, you need help/practice. There's nothing worse than a shitty shooter who thinks they already have shit figured out. You guys got some tender feelings. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:56:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, another person who thinks they are a lot better than they really are. Terrible? You must be smoking some good shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You need more practice. I have a vp9 and can easily keep those shots in the black at 15 yards. I was working on 40 yard shots not to long ago and the group at 40 is better then those you have posted. My 15 yard groups are fairly rapid fire. Are you shooting both eyes open or do you close one? I say you're full of shit. No he's not. Your shooting is terrible. I'm guessing you aren't focusing on your sight alignment properly because you're all over the damn place. Learn how the iron sights work and where to focus your eyes because those groups suck. Again, another person who thinks they are a lot better than they really are. Terrible? You must be smoking some good shit. How many people have you taught to become highly-accurate pistol shooters? If you're not being sarcastic in this thread, you need to pull your head out of your ass. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:57:26 PM EDT
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How many people have you taught to become highly-accurate pistol shooters? If you're not being sarcastic in this thread, you need to pull your head out of your ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You need more practice. I have a vp9 and can easily keep those shots in the black at 15 yards. I was working on 40 yard shots not to long ago and the group at 40 is better then those you have posted. My 15 yard groups are fairly rapid fire. Are you shooting both eyes open or do you close one? I say you're full of shit. No he's not. Your shooting is terrible. I'm guessing you aren't focusing on your sight alignment properly because you're all over the damn place. Learn how the iron sights work and where to focus your eyes because those groups suck. Again, another person who thinks they are a lot better than they really are. Terrible? You must be smoking some good shit. How many people have you taught to become highly-accurate pistol shooters? If you're not being sarcastic in this thread, you need to pull your head out of your ass. Shoot at 17 yds and get back to me. At them little targets like I shot. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:58:37 PM EDT
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I think we need to bring back the 25 MOA challenge
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:00:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Decent. Is that your CCW gun? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Before you call bullshit on me, this is an example of decent shooting. I shot this at about 12 yards with a Glock 35 I'd just bought. Nothing special about the gun, at all. The fliers were my fault because my aim starts to wander just a bit after 20 or so rounds. I think this was 35 rounds: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo21_zps9077cfb7.jpg Decent. Is that your CCW gun? No, I generally carry a G19 and shoot it the same way. I shoot just about everything the same. They're all just sights and a trigger. The group would look better if I shot fewer rounds. Here's the first 3 shots:  |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:00:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shoot at 17 yds and get back to me. At them little targets like I shot. So you ARE just being sarcastic. Gotta be. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:01:06 AM EDT
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No, I generally carry a G19 and shoot it the same way. I shoot just about everything the same. They're all just sights and a trigger. The group would look better if I shot fewer rounds. Here's the first 3 shots: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo11_zps12e7c64c.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Before you call bullshit on me, this is an example of decent shooting. I shot this at about 12 yards with a Glock 35 I'd just bought. Nothing special about the gun, at all. The fliers were my fault because my aim starts to wander just a bit after 20 or so rounds. I think this was 35 rounds: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo21_zps9077cfb7.jpg No way you are doing that at 50 ft. so put up or shut up. Decent. Is that your CCW gun? No, I generally carry a G19 and shoot it the same way. I shoot just about everything the same. They're all just sights and a trigger. The group would look better if I shot fewer rounds. Here's the first 3 shots: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo11_zps12e7c64c.jpg You're not going to shoot like that at 50 ft. Put up or shut up. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:05:02 AM EDT
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Put you money where your mouth is. I threw down the challenge on page 2. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. Why, yes. Yes we are. Put you money where your mouth is. I threw down the challenge on page 2. 
This is the NRA B-34 target. With my CZ75 and my reloads I use the small target in the corner (a little smaller than a business card) at 50 ft. and usually get 5/10 in the box and the others w/in 1" of the box. With my S&W Model 41 I can do better. I'm not nearly as accurate as several of the guys I shoot with. One was on a pistol team in the military and he rarely puts one outside the box. With a good pistol, the correct ammunition and practice it's not that hard. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:07:51 AM EDT
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This is the NRA B-34 target. With my CZ75 and my reloads I use the small target in the corner at 50 ft. and usually get 5/10 in the box and the others w/in 1" of the box. With my S&W Model 41 I can do better. I'm not nearly as accurate as several of the guys I shoot with. One was on a pistol team in the military and he rarely puts one outside the box. With a good pistol, the correct ammunition and practice it's not that hard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. Why, yes. Yes we are. Put you money where your mouth is. I threw down the challenge on page 2. This is the NRA B-34 target. With my CZ75 and my reloads I use the small target in the corner at 50 ft. and usually get 5/10 in the box and the others w/in 1" of the box. With my S&W Model 41 I can do better. I'm not nearly as accurate as several of the guys I shoot with. One was on a pistol team in the military and he rarely puts one outside the box. With a good pistol, the correct ammunition and practice it's not that hard. Yeah, get me out there with my 629 and .44 spcls and let me dazzle the hell out of you. This challenge is with your CCW gun with factory ammo. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:08:28 AM EDT
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Yeah, get me out there with my 629 and .44 spcls and let me dazzle the hell out of you. This challenge is with your CCW gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. Why, yes. Yes we are. Put you money where your mouth is. I threw down the challenge on page 2. This is the NRA B-34 target. With my CZ75 and my reloads I use the small target in the corner at 50 ft. and usually get 5/10 in the box and the others w/in 1" of the box. With my S&W Model 41 I can do better. I'm not nearly as accurate as several of the guys I shoot with. One was on a pistol team in the military and he rarely puts one outside the box. With a good pistol, the correct ammunition and practice it's not that hard. Yeah, get me out there with my 629 and .44 spcls and let me dazzle the hell out of you. This challenge is with your CCW gun. That would be the CZ75. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:09:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're not going to shoot like that at 50 ft. Put up or shut up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Before you call bullshit on me, this is an example of decent shooting. I shot this at about 12 yards with a Glock 35 I'd just bought. Nothing special about the gun, at all. The fliers were my fault because my aim starts to wander just a bit after 20 or so rounds. I think this was 35 rounds: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo21_zps9077cfb7.jpg No way you are doing that at 50 ft. so put up or shut up. Decent. Is that your CCW gun? No, I generally carry a G19 and shoot it the same way. I shoot just about everything the same. They're all just sights and a trigger. The group would look better if I shot fewer rounds. Here's the first 3 shots: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo11_zps12e7c64c.jpg You're not going to shoot like that at 50 ft. Put up or shut up. Or you could stop making stupid challenges and learn how to be a better shot. That would be a lot more productive. Seriously: proper sight alignment... learn it. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:11:47 AM EDT
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That would be the CZ75. ok, I used 115 gr Blazer factory ammo, not tailored handloads. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:13:24 AM EDT
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Or you could stop making stupid challenges and learn how to be a better shot. That would be a lot more productive. Seriously: proper sight alignment... learn it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Before you call bullshit on me, this is an example of decent shooting. I shot this at about 12 yards with a Glock 35 I'd just bought. Nothing special about the gun, at all. The fliers were my fault because my aim starts to wander just a bit after 20 or so rounds. I think this was 35 rounds: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo21_zps9077cfb7.jpg No way you are doing that at 50 ft. so put up or shut up. Decent. Is that your CCW gun? No, I generally carry a G19 and shoot it the same way. I shoot just about everything the same. They're all just sights and a trigger. The group would look better if I shot fewer rounds. Here's the first 3 shots: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/Cypher214/photo11_zps12e7c64c.jpg You're not going to shoot like that at 50 ft. Put up or shut up. Or you could stop making stupid challenges and learn how to be a better shot. That would be a lot more productive. Seriously: proper sight alignment... learn it. Lol. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:19:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:19:21 AM EDT
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http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a288/callgood/Stuff/b34_zpstzmkdcsk.jpg This is the NRA B-34 target. With my CZ75 and my reloads I use the small target in the corner (a little smaller than a business card) at 50 ft. and usually get 5/10 in the box and the others w/in 1" of the box. With my S&W Model 41 I can do better. I'm not nearly as accurate as several of the guys I shoot with. One was on a pistol team in the military and he rarely puts one outside the box. With a good pistol, the correct ammunition and practice it's not that hard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. Why, yes. Yes we are. Put you money where your mouth is. I threw down the challenge on page 2. http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a288/callgood/Stuff/b34_zpstzmkdcsk.jpg This is the NRA B-34 target. With my CZ75 and my reloads I use the small target in the corner (a little smaller than a business card) at 50 ft. and usually get 5/10 in the box and the others w/in 1" of the box. With my S&W Model 41 I can do better. I'm not nearly as accurate as several of the guys I shoot with. One was on a pistol team in the military and he rarely puts one outside the box. With a good pistol, the correct ammunition and practice it's not that hard. Oh ok, I see you posted a target in your edit but I don't see any holes in it. Did you hit it at all? Or are you just talk? |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:19:52 AM EDT
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At 50' there's only a few pistols that I've shot that I think I could comfortably say I could shoot better than you did, op, with your VP9. Those would be my AR pistol, a S&W model 41, my Walther P22 with target barrel, and maybe my 1911. I would also say you could have done better with those pistols too. I would not place bets that I could do better than you did with a VP9, op. I'd also bet you could easily out shoot 90% of GD. Sleep easy tonight, op. You're a fine shooter. World class? Nope. But how many are? You're certainly better than average. Quote HistoryQuoted:
At 50' there's only a few pistols that I've shot that I think I could comfortably say I could shoot better than you did, op, with your VP9. Those would be my AR pistol, a S&W model 41, my Walther P22 with target barrel, and maybe my 1911. I would also say you could have done better with those pistols too. I would not place bets that I could do better than you did with a VP9, op. I'd also bet you could easily out shoot 90% of GD. Sleep easy tonight, op. You're a fine shooter. World class? Nope. But how many are? You're certainly better than average. Quoted:
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You did pretty good keeping the shots on paper at 50 metres. Nice to see how well Arfcom measures distances.  Hey guys, how long is your... ahhhh nevermind
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:21:45 AM EDT
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ok, I used 115 gr Blazer factory ammo, not tailored handloads. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That would be the CZ75. ok, I used 115 gr Blazer factory ammo, not tailored handloads. It makes a difference. I shot up some Winchester 115 grain White Box today and the POI was way off compared to my loads and the groups much larger. Blazer is better than WWB IMO, but if you ever get into reloading you can find a combination your pistol "likes" and shrink your groups. The load I'm using in the CZ at the moment had an extreme spread for 15 rounds of 43 feet per second and a std.dev. a bit over 6. It's not a replacement for practice, but every little bit helps. eta: Quoted:
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:23:17 AM EDT
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It makes a difference. I shot up some Winchester 115 grain White Box today and the POI was way off compared to my loads and the groups much larger. Blazer is better than WWB IMO, but if you ever get into reloading you can find a combination your pistol "likes" and shrink your groups. The load I'm using in the CZ at the moment had an extreme spread for 15 rounds of 43 feet per second and a std.dev. a bit over 6. It's not a replacement for practice, but every little bit helps. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That would be the CZ75. ok, I used 115 gr Blazer factory ammo, not tailored handloads. It makes a difference. I shot up some Winchester 115 grain White Box today and the POI was way off compared to my loads and the groups much larger. Blazer is better than WWB IMO, but if you ever get into reloading you can find a combination your pistol "likes" and shrink your groups. The load I'm using in the CZ at the moment had an extreme spread for 15 rounds of 43 feet per second and a std.dev. a bit over 6. It's not a replacement for practice, but every little bit helps. You don't have to tell me handloads make a difference. That's why I pointed out your target comparison isn't like what I did. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:24:16 AM EDT
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Either this guy is a troll or he doesnt realize what some people are capable of with a pistol. I used to think i was some badass shooter until a guy at my work invited me to a smallbore silhouette match. I was humbled to say the least.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:31:14 AM EDT
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I could mock your shooting, and get a dick head response ( as I would deserve)
I could politely offer some suggestions (as others have) and get a dick head response. I could post pics of a target I shot ( in my garage with a wooden dowel ) to make my self look tier 0.5 ( twice as awesome as tier 1 and half the weight)
I could post nothing, and but I already started... plus it wont help my post count... Soooo.... Any shooting is better then no shooting..You probably shoot better then half the people on the board, but keep in mind some folks here actually know their shit, and can and will put that group to shame, so don't get all bent out of shape over it. As with anything you do, someone can and will do it better. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:32:06 AM EDT
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Either this guy is a troll or he doesnt realize what some people are capable of with a pistol. I used to think i was some badass shooter until a guy at my work invited me to a smallbore silhouette match. I was humbled to say the least. This is about you. Not other people or what you think you would or could have done. These are answers you must answer for yourself. If you want to be a Jedi. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:35:02 AM EDT
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I don't see many people shoot better than me at the range. You all must be incredible. What we learned from the all day moa and grapefruit challenges is most people think they shoot better than the actually do. That is why you dont see people posting their targets. If you want to tighten your groups dryfire as much as you can. I do. You're only going to get but so much accuracy out of striker fired guns. Plus the front sight completely obscuring the black. woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:35:30 AM EDT
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Straight up, I think you should practice more. With that said, I'm not much better. Ignore the rood comments we all have to start somewhere. But I would bet that is better than 50% of gun owners easily. Dude. "Rood?" Really? Dood* C'mon. Fixt
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:37:34 AM EDT
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Why are you shooting so far away from the target?
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:38:34 AM EDT
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woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:41:43 AM EDT
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woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. you stated "you are only going to get so much accuracy out of striker fired guns." That statement is false and you sir should feel bad about perpetuating misinformation. being striker fired and being accurate have nothing to do with each other. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:45:16 AM EDT
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you stated "you are only going to get so much accuracy out of striker fired guns." That statement is false and you sir should feel bad about perpetuating misinformation. being striker fired and being accurate have nothing to do with each other. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. you stated "you are only going to get so much accuracy out of striker fired guns." That statement is false and you sir should feel bad about perpetuating misinformation. being striker fired and being accurate have nothing to do with each other. You don't know what you're talking about. Where is this magical striker fired gun that can compete with hammeed guns like the Sig P226, Beretta 92fs, 1911 in accuracy? Oh you could make one. According to you. Keep dreaming or go shoot and find out for real. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:46:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You just said a whole lot of nothing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. A: Blaming your tool, it's not it's fault. It's yours, go watch some hickok45 videos on youtube. Watch him hit the gong at whatever distance that thing is at (gotta be 1/4 mile) with anything from your exact model glock to a 38 snubby. Not a lucky shot here and there, over and over and over and over. No idea of he was hungry or tired or sad or if it was over cast but certainly unsupported. B: You are assuming a lot things here about people you don't know. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:47:46 AM EDT
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He said exactly what I was thinking, so that's something. OP I am no pistol dead eye either, I could really use some training as well, but you are: A: Blaming your tool, it's not it's fault. It's yours, go watch some hickok45 videos on youtube. Watch him hit the gong at whatever distance that thing is at (gotta be 1/4 mile) with anything from your exact model glock to a 38 snubby. Not a lucky shot here and there, over and over and over and over. No idea of he was hungry or tired or sad or if it was over cast but certainly unsupported. B: You are assuming a lot things here about people you don't know. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. A: Blaming your tool, it's not it's fault. It's yours, go watch some hickok45 videos on youtube. Watch him hit the gong at whatever distance that thing is at (gotta be 1/4 mile) with anything from your exact model glock to a 38 snubby. Not a lucky shot here and there, over and over and over and over. No idea of he was hungry or tired or sad or if it was over cast but certainly unsupported. B: You are assuming a lot things here about people you don't know. Ain't no way you're firing a striker fired gun like a match 1911 or other target gun so let's get off that silly shit. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:48:10 AM EDT
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Go home OP. You drunk.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:49:22 AM EDT
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You don't know what you're talking about. Where is this magical striker fired gun that can compete with hammeed guns like the Sig P226, Beretta 92fs, 1911 in accuracy? Oh you could make one. According to you. Keep dreaming or go shoot and find out for real. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. you stated "you are only going to get so much accuracy out of striker fired guns." That statement is false and you sir should feel bad about perpetuating misinformation. being striker fired and being accurate have nothing to do with each other. You don't know what you're talking about. Where is this magical striker fired gun that can compete with hammeed guns like the Sig P226, Beretta 92fs, 1911 in accuracy? Oh you could make one. According to you. Keep dreaming or go shoot and find out for real. essentially every rimfire bullseye pistol in the winners circle is striker fired. oh and I still shoot better than you too 
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:49:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't know what you're talking about. Where is this magical striker fired gun that can compete with hammeed guns like the Sig P226, Beretta 92fs, 1911 in accuracy? Oh you could make one. According to you. Keep dreaming or go shoot and find out for real. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. you stated "you are only going to get so much accuracy out of striker fired guns." That statement is false and you sir should feel bad about perpetuating misinformation. being striker fired and being accurate have nothing to do with each other. You don't know what you're talking about. Where is this magical striker fired gun that can compete with hammeed guns like the Sig P226, Beretta 92fs, 1911 in accuracy? Oh you could make one. According to you. Keep dreaming or go shoot and find out for real. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:50:20 AM EDT
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That's neither here nor that, your glock is capable of tight group at that distance. Not that I could make that happen, nor you it appear, but it's capable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. you stated "you are only going to get so much accuracy out of striker fired guns." That statement is false and you sir should feel bad about perpetuating misinformation. being striker fired and being accurate have nothing to do with each other. You don't know what you're talking about. Where is this magical striker fired gun that can compete with hammeed guns like the Sig P226, Beretta 92fs, 1911 in accuracy? Oh you could make one. According to you. Keep dreaming or go shoot and find out for real. More people that suck at shooting trying to give me advice. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:50:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ain't no way you're firing a striker fired gun like a match 1911 or other target gun so let's get off that silly shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. A: Blaming your tool, it's not it's fault. It's yours, go watch some hickok45 videos on youtube. Watch him hit the gong at whatever distance that thing is at (gotta be 1/4 mile) with anything from your exact model glock to a 38 snubby. Not a lucky shot here and there, over and over and over and over. No idea of he was hungry or tired or sad or if it was over cast but certainly unsupported. B: You are assuming a lot things here about people you don't know. Ain't no way you're firing a striker fired gun like a match 1911 or other target gun so let's get off that silly shit. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:51:51 AM EDT
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woah woah woah woah, I was all for you until you posted a mechanical fallacy. being striker fired has little to nothing to do with mechanical accuracy, trigger pulls may be less than stellar and most striker fired guns happen to also be combat oriented handguns with combat tolerances in place which can lead to slight degradation of mechanical accuracy, but it is completely possible to design and make a striker fired pistol that shoots just well as a hammer fired one. You just said a whole lot of nothing. you stated "you are only going to get so much accuracy out of striker fired guns." That statement is false and you sir should feel bad about perpetuating misinformation. being striker fired and being accurate have nothing to do with each other. You don't know what you're talking about. Where is this magical striker fired gun that can compete with hammeed guns like the Sig P226, Beretta 92fs, 1911 in accuracy? Oh you could make one. According to you. Keep dreaming or go shoot and find out for real. essentially every rimfire bullseye pistol in the winners circle is striker fired. oh and I still shoot better than you too All talk. You know I meant polymer striker fired CCW guns which is the context of this thread. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:53:05 AM EDT
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We are not talking about the tiny difference in accuracy between those things, your grouping is huge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:54:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More people that suck at shooting trying to give me advice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: you stated "you are only going to get so much accuracy out of striker fired guns." That statement is false and you sir should feel bad about perpetuating misinformation. being striker fired and being accurate have nothing to do with each other. You don't know what you're talking about. Where is this magical striker fired gun that can compete with hammeed guns like the Sig P226, Beretta 92fs, 1911 in accuracy? Oh you could make one. According to you. Keep dreaming or go shoot and find out for real. More people that suck at shooting trying to give me advice. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:57:25 AM EDT
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Meet the challenge on pg 2 or you are all talk.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:58:00 AM EDT
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Why are you shooting so far away from the target? 21 feet should be the max This is typically my mindset as well but mostly because that's the max distance for my pistol requals. If I'm wanting to see how accurate I can be with a target pistol then I might go farther for fun. I've shot at 50 feet a few times. Shot a S&W model 41 at 50 and 100 yards once. That experience proved that even with a pistol so nice I couldn't miss that I could in fact miss. Shot a Canik TP9 at 600 yards once. That one didn't prove a damn thing
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Posted: 2/7/2016 12:58:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:00:29 AM EDT
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I couldn't do any better with my Glocks at that distance. Hand me a CZ 75 and it would be a different story.
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:00:37 AM EDT
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All talk. You know I meant polymer striker fired CCW guns which is the context of this thread. I feel you are hopeless, or drunk, or just extremely butthurt, If your thread hasn't been locked I'll make sure to get you some fresh groups this week. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:00:38 AM EDT
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Again, my shit sucks too, no point in proving that I am admitting to it .
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:00:43 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2016 1:01:26 AM EDT
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All talk. You know I meant polymer striker fired CCW guns which is the context of this thread. I feel you are hopeless, or drunk, or just extremely butthurt, If your thread hasn't been locked I'll make sure to get you some fresh groups this week. Please do. You'll be surprised how bad you suck. |
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