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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:13:01 AM EDT
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A prominent Democratic donor worried about the party's chances of winning the presidency emailed dozens of fans of Vice President Joe Biden on Friday, urging them to remain prepared to donate if Biden jumps into the race. The donor, Bill Bartmann, cited new polling showing Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont nearly tied with the Hillary Clinton, eroding the 30-point lead the former secretary of state held at the end of last year. Bartmann and other party insiders are concerned that Sanders, a self-proclaimed Democratic socialist, is too far to the left to win against a Republican in the Nov. 8 presidential election. "We cannot afford to lose the White House," Bartmann wrote in the email, seen by Reuters. The email drew a string of affirmative responses, also seen by Reuters. Baskette said he was not opposed to either Clinton or Sanders. "I don't think that they offer the solutions to our nation's future that Joe Biden does," he added. "Count me in," Gary Hindes, chief executive of the Delaware Bay Company LLC and a former chairman of the Delaware Democratic Party, wrote on the email chain. "I am hoping that the stars line up right and that Joe becomes the nominee," Hindes said to Reuters. "Sanders is too far to the left," he added, saying Clinton could be vulnerable as well. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/democratic-donor-contacts-biden-allies-possible-run-010248619.html |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:15:49 AM EDT
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But Hillary won Iowa.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:16:58 AM EDT
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Hillary Clinton will be the next president.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:17:59 AM EDT
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I'm not sure Biden could get elected either, although the idea of him jumping in worries me. It seems likely that a lot of hard-core Hillary supporters and (especially) Bernie youths might say screw it and sit the election out if the party machine pulls a stunt like that. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:19:26 AM EDT
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Little late now
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:19:54 AM EDT
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Still too early. But it would be great if Sanders does great, perhaps even beating Hillary in the primaries.
Then Hillary is not selected as the nominee but Biden is drafted. Sanders runs third party as does Bloomberg. America needs Sanders on the ballot in November. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:20:48 AM EDT
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I'm still impressed with the notion that Biden has fans.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:22:01 AM EDT
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I'm not sure Biden could get elected either, although the idea of him jumping in worries me. It seems likely that a lot of hard-core Hillary supporters and (especially) Bernie youths might say screw it and sit the election out if the party machine pulls a stunt like that. And.... What's so bad about that? 
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:22:10 AM EDT
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I'm not sure Biden could get elected either, although the idea of him jumping in worries me. It seems likely that a lot of hard-core Hillary supporters and (especially) Bernie youths might say screw it and sit the election out if the party machine pulls a stunt like that. i think it would be a positive thing.. anything to disrupt and divide the Sanders supporters can only help the R's no? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:23:55 AM EDT
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Hillary would have a stroke.........
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:24:01 AM EDT
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Hillary Clinton will be the next president. 
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:25:40 AM EDT
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Hillary Clinton will be the next president. she will not. 
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:26:11 AM EDT
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Hillary would have a stroke......... ANOTHER stroke??? Run Forrest, run! |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:26:31 AM EDT
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Bernie is going to win and going to do a better job at being a socialist than Hitler
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:26:48 AM EDT
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And.... What's so bad about that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not sure Biden could get elected either, although the idea of him jumping in worries me. It seems likely that a lot of hard-core Hillary supporters and (especially) Bernie youths might say screw it and sit the election out if the party machine pulls a stunt like that. And.... What's so bad about that? I jammed two separate trains of thought together there, didn't mean the way that came out. Biden worries me. But, the act of jamming him in might be self-defeating. I would hope so, anyway. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:27:27 AM EDT
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Hillary Clinton will be the next president. 
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:29:55 AM EDT
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i think it would be a positive thing.. anything to disrupt and divide the Sanders supporters can only help the R's no? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not sure Biden could get elected either, although the idea of him jumping in worries me. On the other hand It seems likely that a lot of hard-core Hillary supporters and (especially) Bernie youths might say screw it and sit the election out if the party machine pulls a stunt like that. i think it would be a positive thing.. anything to disrupt and divide the Sanders supporters can only help the R's no? What I should have said. Coffee hasn't kicked in yet. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:32:09 AM EDT
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No matter how many old white curmudgeon's they find, whether it be Clinton, Bernie, Uncle Joe, or Bloomberg, it just doesn't feel like a Democrat year or era even to me.
You know when the last time we had 2 consecutive Democrat Presidencies? When JFK was assassinated and LBJ took over in 1963. Before that, it was when FDR died in office in 1945, and his VP, Truman took over. Before that, it was Andrew Jackson genocide against American Natives and Martin Van Buren, a period covering 1829-1841. Since we are still in an economic crisis, they face being shut out of the White House for next 3-4 elections if US History is a precedent. Any party that has been in office during a major National crisis era gets shut out of the WH when looking at the 90 year cycle of 4 generations. What's more realistic? A Hillary or Bernie White House working with the new Congress, or someone fresh after 8 years of Obama failure? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:33:41 AM EDT
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It is messed up when Child Molester Joe is the "Great White Hope" for your party.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:35:15 AM EDT
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Bernie is going to win and going to do a better job at being a socialist than Hitler Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Fortunately he's too old and too cuck to make the firey speeches that would enchant a nation. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:38:03 AM EDT
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If the whole country is liberal
Why do they have a 2 deep bench for the most important job in the world? why are no democratic politicians admired beyond Bernies fangirls? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:42:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No matter how many old white curmudgeon's they find, whether it be Clinton, Bernie, Uncle Joe, or Bloomberg, it just doesn't feel like a Democrat year or era even to me. You know when the last time we had 2 consecutive Democrat Presidencies? When JFK was assassinated and LBJ took over in 1963. Before that, it was when FDR died in office in 1945, and his VP, Truman took over. Before that, it was Andrew Jackson genocide against American Natives and Martin Van Buren, a period covering 1829-1841. Since we are still in an economic crisis, they face being shut out of the White House for next 3-4 elections if US History is a precedent. Any party that has been in office during a major National crisis era gets shut out of the WH when looking at the 90 year cycle of 4 generations. What's more realistic? A Hillary or Bernie White House working with the new Congress, or someone fresh after 8 years of Obama failure? CA, IL, NY are going D no matter what. TX is the only large state going R no matter what. Hard to win when you start that far behind. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:43:31 AM EDT
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Right nut, left nut. Biden is the dick in the middle.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:49:41 AM EDT
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Bidens an unelectable buffoon. Let the man exit public life quietly, and with at least a little dignity.
The the first card the demons would play would be the pity card, since his son recently died, but he's going to try to save the country in is sons memory. Demons like pity.... |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:49:48 AM EDT
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Run joe run
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:49:49 AM EDT
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But Hillary won Iowa. By winning 6 separate coin tosses. When even the local liberal rag is calling shenanigans, things are in trouble. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:53:08 AM EDT
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I still think Biden will be their nominee, have thought so for months.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:56:20 AM EDT
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Don't let feels get in the way of the reality called the Electoral College. CA, IL, NY are going D no matter what. TX is the only large state going R no matter what. Hard to win when you start that far behind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No matter how many old white curmudgeon's they find, whether it be Clinton, Bernie, Uncle Joe, or Bloomberg, it just doesn't feel like a Democrat year or era even to me. You know when the last time we had 2 consecutive Democrat Presidencies? When JFK was assassinated and LBJ took over in 1963. Before that, it was when FDR died in office in 1945, and his VP, Truman took over. Before that, it was Andrew Jackson genocide against American Natives and Martin Van Buren, a period covering 1829-1841. Since we are still in an economic crisis, they face being shut out of the White House for next 3-4 elections if US History is a precedent. Any party that has been in office during a major National crisis era gets shut out of the WH when looking at the 90 year cycle of 4 generations. What's more realistic? A Hillary or Bernie White House working with the new Congress, or someone fresh after 8 years of Obama failure? CA, IL, NY are going D no matter what. TX is the only large state going R no matter what. Hard to win when you start that far behind. Some folks still foolishly think the people elect the president. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:58:18 AM EDT
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Is this like when Ann Coulter was pleading for Chris Christy save us all the last go around?
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Posted: 2/6/2016 11:59:08 AM EDT
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I love how liberals tried to create this false narrative about how 20% of women who attend college get raped and that all rape victims must be believed. In fact, men accused of rape shouldn't even be allowed to have due process in court. They should just be considered guilty, because rape is so unspeakably horrible no one would ever lie when they accuse someone of it.
Now, put your hands together for Hillary Clinton, whose job it was to silence her husband's victims of sexual abuse and rape! |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:01:30 PM EDT
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Some folks still foolishly think the people elect the president. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No matter how many old white curmudgeon's they find, whether it be Clinton, Bernie, Uncle Joe, or Bloomberg, it just doesn't feel like a Democrat year or era even to me. You know when the last time we had 2 consecutive Democrat Presidencies? When JFK was assassinated and LBJ took over in 1963. Before that, it was when FDR died in office in 1945, and his VP, Truman took over. Before that, it was Andrew Jackson genocide against American Natives and Martin Van Buren, a period covering 1829-1841. Since we are still in an economic crisis, they face being shut out of the White House for next 3-4 elections if US History is a precedent. Any party that has been in office during a major National crisis era gets shut out of the WH when looking at the 90 year cycle of 4 generations. What's more realistic? A Hillary or Bernie White House working with the new Congress, or someone fresh after 8 years of Obama failure? CA, IL, NY are going D no matter what. TX is the only large state going R no matter what. Hard to win when you start that far behind. Some folks still foolishly think the people elect the president. As a result, I guess you sit it out every election, huh. 
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:02:57 PM EDT
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Some folks still foolishly think the people elect the president. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No matter how many old white curmudgeon's they find, whether it be Clinton, Bernie, Uncle Joe, or Bloomberg, it just doesn't feel like a Democrat year or era even to me. You know when the last time we had 2 consecutive Democrat Presidencies? When JFK was assassinated and LBJ took over in 1963. Before that, it was when FDR died in office in 1945, and his VP, Truman took over. Before that, it was Andrew Jackson genocide against American Natives and Martin Van Buren, a period covering 1829-1841. Since we are still in an economic crisis, they face being shut out of the White House for next 3-4 elections if US History is a precedent. Any party that has been in office during a major National crisis era gets shut out of the WH when looking at the 90 year cycle of 4 generations. What's more realistic? A Hillary or Bernie White House working with the new Congress, or someone fresh after 8 years of Obama failure? CA, IL, NY are going D no matter what. TX is the only large state going R no matter what. Hard to win when you start that far behind. Some folks still foolishly think the people elect the president. Some still foolishly think delegates elect the nominee. In the case of the DNC, delegates are told who their nominee will be. Even when they play by their party rules, it's a very strange process where people are openly antagonized and pressured into corners in a large room. They didn't play by their own rules in 2008, and Howard Dean just ushered Obama in, let everyone know who the nominee was going to be, and those who didn't play along were threatened, intimidated, and even murdered, like Bill Gwatney, the Chairman of the Arkansas DNC and superdelegate pledged to Hillary who refused to change his vote for Obama, and was going to demand a recount of those who wanted to pledge for Hillary at the DNC convention in Denver. On the Republican Party, you still have secret ballots. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:03:22 PM EDT
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Oh, and you know all those Muslim refugees? The ones doing 99.9% of all the rapes in Europe? Who actually DO have a rape culture?
Liberals want to ship hundreds of thousands to the US. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:04:01 PM EDT
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By winning 6 separate coin tosses. When even the local liberal rag is calling shenanigans, things are in trouble. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But Hillary won Iowa. By winning 6 separate coin tosses. When even the local liberal rag is calling shenanigans, things are in trouble. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Can someone run the odds on that? I'm not good at math but wasn't that about a 2% chance? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:05:22 PM EDT
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Fortunately he's too old and too cuck to make the firey speeches that would enchant a nation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bernie is going to win and going to do a better job at being a socialist than Hitler Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Fortunately he's too old and too cuck to make the firey speeches that would enchant a nation. Well, he don't have to. The millenials are eating his BS up. They love him. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:05:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can someone run the odds on that? I'm not good at math but wasn't that about a 2% chance? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: But Hillary won Iowa. By winning 6 separate coin tosses. When even the local liberal rag is calling shenanigans, things are in trouble. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Can someone run the odds on that? I'm not good at math but wasn't that about a 2% chance? |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:11:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:18:23 PM EDT
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It's easy to beat the odds ........ if you cheat.
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:40:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:41:24 PM EDT
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Biden can be the shoulder massage and ear kisses Czar under Clinton
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:42:11 PM EDT
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Biden's prior attempts at running for President were complete failures. Never even got a whiff of success. Now that he's a few senior moments from an assisted living facility, what's changed with his potential for winning?
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:42:49 PM EDT
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Little late now Its never too late. Just ask Torricelli |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:48:20 PM EDT
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she will not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hillary Clinton will be the next president. she will not. No kidding. This defeatist shit is getting old. Prepare for Hillary winning? Sure. Give up now and run away with my tail tucked? Fuck no! It's sad really.... |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:51:14 PM EDT
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I'm still impressed with the notion that Biden has fans. Biden would have dominated the democrat field. He is seen as a kind of Harmless Carter, that isn't controversial or too liberal. Hillary and Bernie are both so fanatical, it's turned off a lot of moderate DNC voters. Many of those are flocking to Rubio, oddly enough, even though they can't vote for him in the Primary. A Biden ticket has a better shot nationally than either DNC vote. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:51:18 PM EDT
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Still too early. But it would be great if Sanders does great, perhaps even beating Hillary in the primaries. Then Hillary is not selected as the nominee but Biden is drafted. Sanders runs third party as does Bloomberg. America needs Sanders on the ballot in November. If Sanders (or Trump or Cruz for that matter) wins a majority of the allocated delegates in the primaries, there will be no stopping him from becoming the nominee. Behind the scenes "players" turn out to be nobodies after a candidate runs the table in actual elections. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:53:02 PM EDT
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Don't let feels get in the way of the reality called the Electoral College. CA, IL, NY are going D no matter what. TX is the only large state going R no matter what. Hard to win when you start that far behind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No matter how many old white curmudgeon's they find, whether it be Clinton, Bernie, Uncle Joe, or Bloomberg, it just doesn't feel like a Democrat year or era even to me. You know when the last time we had 2 consecutive Democrat Presidencies? When JFK was assassinated and LBJ took over in 1963. Before that, it was when FDR died in office in 1945, and his VP, Truman took over. Before that, it was Andrew Jackson genocide against American Natives and Martin Van Buren, a period covering 1829-1841. Since we are still in an economic crisis, they face being shut out of the White House for next 3-4 elections if US History is a precedent. Any party that has been in office during a major National crisis era gets shut out of the WH when looking at the 90 year cycle of 4 generations. What's more realistic? A Hillary or Bernie White House working with the new Congress, or someone fresh after 8 years of Obama failure? CA, IL, NY are going D no matter what. TX is the only large state going R no matter what. Hard to win when you start that far behind. Florida is the third most populous state, and is the swingiest of swing states. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:53:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:54:09 PM EDT
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Oh, and you know all those Muslim refugees? The ones doing 99.9% of all the rapes in Europe? Who actually DO have a rape culture? Liberals want to ship hundreds of thousands to the US. Which is why the Republicans can win, if they nominate somebody who will shout that from the rooftops, and doesn't give a FUCK if you call him racist for it. If only there was somebody like that running... |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:55:29 PM EDT
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Bernie is going to win and going to do a better job at being a socialist than Hitler Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Bernie might win, and he is a committed socialist; but he is an idiot and a loser. It would be like having a 10yr English major undergrad in charge. The real power will be with his Chief of Staff and the apparatchiks and flappers. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:58:45 PM EDT
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Well, he don't have to. The millenials are eating his BS up. They love him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bernie is going to win and going to do a better job at being a socialist than Hitler Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Fortunately he's too old and too cuck to make the firey speeches that would enchant a nation. Well, he don't have to. The millenials are eating his BS up. They love him. A vocal few on campus and welfare, yes. Hitler's popularity was much more complete. Bernie is a politician. Hitler was a rock star. |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 1:00:39 PM EDT
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Bill Bartmann is one of the biggest scam artists in the world. ( if he is the Bill Bartmann, financial wiz)
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