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Posted: 1/16/2016 8:24:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet he has since he has everything to do it already. Does being a suppressor manufacture give someone the legal ok to do it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ^^^ Our billet MBTs will run and run to boredom on our in-house trigger cycle test machine ... It will be interesting to see how many average cycles those SOCOM units make before the hammer snaps ... like most things, time will tell.  Make one that is select fire and try it out. I bet he has since he has everything to do it already. Does being a suppressor manufacture give someone the legal ok to do it? From a business stand point it's an extremely small market. There are not many transferable M16's. Without a .gov contract it's unlikely production will be profitable. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 8:31:46 PM EDT
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They are in my book. There are always going to be competitors but I like Giessele, and I know them, so I'll keep buying them.
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Posted: 1/17/2016 12:15:29 AM EDT
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How the F does single unit triggers like CMC stay in place? I wonder because all other triggers like Larue, Geissele and use their own string tension on the trigger pins to hold the pins and trigger parts in place? But CMC triggers can't do that because it's all self contained? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As much as I enjoy my Geissele trigger, I think my next trigger purchase will be a CMC drop in flat trigger. I might regret it, but I think it's worth a try. You won't regret it. I love the SSA-E from Geissele. ..but my drop in single stage from CMC is a great trigger that don't regret buying at all. See, that's what I'm talking about ... to make serious headway, I gotta get past Ruger's on-every-store-shelf trigger, CMC's drop-in, the AR-Gold ... and numerous attractively-priced others. Yep. But to answer your question on competitiveness, @ $125 the MBT would be my default choice and recommendation to others. I get lots of people who have 1 AR or their second AR asking "what trigger..." Those guys inevitably don't want to spend what I'm willing to spend on a truly premium trigger. The CMC is often on sale for $130, is very good for that price point, has both curved and flat options, and is easy for them to install, and I have a couple myself so it's usually what I recommend when it's on sale. An MBT at $125, and that's out the window. How the F does single unit triggers like CMC stay in place? I wonder because all other triggers like Larue, Geissele and use their own string tension on the trigger pins to hold the pins and trigger parts in place? But CMC triggers can't do that because it's all self contained? The Timney I have has a threaded hole on either side of the trigger housing inside. There are set screws that you tighten down to put upward force on the housing that put pressure on the trigger pins. Then you insert another set of set screws to keep the first ones from backing out. So far so good but I can't wait for my MBT to get here. At $125 I will MBT everything. |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 11:55:44 AM EDT
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Watching credit card for bill...
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Posted: 1/18/2016 12:05:48 PM EDT
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Watching credit card for bill... keep watching, i bet it would be closer to valentines day before the new sale starts shipping |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 12:16:29 PM EDT
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Watching credit card for bill... keep watching, i bet it would be closer to valentines day before the new sale starts shipping Just in time for the walking dead to start up again!! 
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Posted: 1/18/2016 12:20:10 PM EDT
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Watching credit card for bill... keep watching, i bet it would be closer to valentines day before the new sale starts shipping Just in time for the walking dead to start up again!! Walking Dead and Dead Pool Same week end Oh boy . and Watching Shot show Closely. |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 12:45:30 PM EDT
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Watching credit card for bill... keep watching, i bet it would be closer to valentines day before the new sale starts shipping Just in time for the walking dead to start up again!! Walking Dead and Dead Pool Same week end Oh boy . and Watching Shot show Closely. dont forget barret jackson this week |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 8:27:53 AM EDT
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There's a booth near ours in dire straits ... they keep hearing a siren song of complete and total accuracy ...
"I want my M - B - T ..."
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Posted: 1/21/2016 8:44:54 AM EDT
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I want my M-B-T.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 8:56:06 AM EDT
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I want my M-B-T. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a tool room trigger movement ... |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 8:58:04 AM EDT
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I want my M-B-T. Yep Stuck in my head now. 
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:12:18 AM EDT
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ...
I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. 
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:21:37 AM EDT
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. 
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:25:50 AM EDT
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. 
This is more fun than a customer should be allowed.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:26:19 AM EDT
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. What's the for?
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:41:08 AM EDT
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.............. What's the for?
He mentions it like twice a week. Hey, I miss all the good stuff.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:54:13 AM EDT
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What's the for?
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. What's the for?
He mentions it like twice a week. Speaking of you, I just had a double order of bacon down stairs at the Gran Lux ... 
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Posted: 1/21/2016 3:55:44 PM EDT
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What's the for?
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. What's the for?
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Posted: 1/21/2016 7:53:36 PM EDT
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And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a tool room trigger movement ... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want my M-B-T. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a tool room trigger movement ... I wanna kiiilll. I wanna kiiilllll |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 8:48:06 PM EDT
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I lol'd cause its true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. What's the for?
He mentions it like twice a week. There are guys on this board that file 941s that get it.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 8:50:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn.  |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 9:54:02 PM EDT
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There are guys on this board that file 941s that get it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. What's the for?
He mentions it like twice a week. There are guys on this board that file 941s that get it. 
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:35:47 AM EDT
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I wanna kiiilll. I wanna kiiilllll Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want my M-B-T. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a tool room trigger movement ... I wanna kiiilll. I wanna kiiilllll I wanna see blood and guts and veins in my teeth! |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 12:52:35 AM EDT
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I wanna see blood and guts and veins in my teeth and I want my MBT! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want my M-B-T. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day walking in singin' a bar of "I want my M-B-T" and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a tool room trigger movement ... I wanna kiiilll. I wanna kiiilllll I wanna see blood and guts and veins in my teeth and I want my MBT! FIFY 
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Posted: 1/22/2016 4:45:25 AM EDT
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The guys at the ADM booth said that they were gonna start making triggers
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Posted: 1/22/2016 10:41:53 AM EDT
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What's the for?
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. What's the for?
He mentions it like twice a week. I waiting on him to start posting pics of all his cars showing how much money he has like john willis and SOE gear. 
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:25:22 PM EDT
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Is the ultimate goal to built the best trigger or see who can act like a bigger dick?
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:33:50 PM EDT
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Is the ultimate goal to built the best trigger or see who can act like a bigger dick? Depends on who you ask. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:35:05 PM EDT
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IBML did i make it?
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:41:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:43:34 PM EDT
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Is the ultimate goal to built the best trigger or see who can act like a bigger dick? In true Arfcom fashion that answer is both, one manufacturer is trying to design and build the best triggers, one has chosen the other path. |
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:58:21 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure your comment isn't a violation of any of the ten commandments, op, but when you get to heaven, when jesus is done shaking his head he's just going to let you know that was wrong on such a level that you aren't going to fit in very well.
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Posted: 1/22/2016 1:59:31 PM EDT
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He is a licensed manufacturer, he can make one if he wants. From a business stand point it's an extremely small market. There are not many transferable M16's. Without a .gov contract it's unlikely production will be profitable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^^^ Our billet MBTs will run and run to boredom on our in-house trigger cycle test machine ... It will be interesting to see how many average cycles those SOCOM units make before the hammer snaps ... like most things, time will tell. Make one that is select fire and try it out. I bet he has since he has everything to do it already. Does being a suppressor manufacture give someone the legal ok to do it? From a business stand point it's an extremely small market. There are not many transferable M16's. Without a .gov contract it's unlikely production will be profitable. and we know whose winning all those these days
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Posted: 1/22/2016 2:02:10 PM EDT
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What's the for?
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Geiselle's booth is between mine and the nearest head. I encountered him in the hall near closing yesterday. First words out of his mouth were a concerned and condescending "I'm praying for you Mark" ... I replied that a thank you note for the $1.8 million in checks I've written him would suffice. Anyhow, I went back to my booth and told my guys to distribute the ammo and ration the water ... we attack at dawn. What's the for?
He mentions it like twice a week. It's almost like his business floats on trigger sales. good thing tier 1 allows good margins so he can afford to sling people tons of aluminum bottle openers and lawry's seasoning salt |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 1:36:38 AM EDT
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He's out of hats!
There are no hats! The hat is a lie! Proof from SHOT. 
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Posted: 1/25/2016 9:28:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's out of hats! There are no hats! The hat is a lie! Proof from SHOT. http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q339/khalimadeath/20160122_233303_zpslqn0clix.jpg |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 9:35:41 AM EDT
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He's out of hats! There are no hats! The hat is a lie! Proof from SHOT. http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q339/khalimadeath/20160122_233303_zpslqn0clix.jpg Timney. No fucking idea what the hat has to do with this or why this pick was posted. picture from this thread |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 10:11:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Timney. No fucking idea what the hat has to do with this or why this pick was posted. picture from this thread Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He's out of hats! There are no hats! The hat is a lie! Proof from SHOT. http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q339/khalimadeath/20160122_233303_zpslqn0clix.jpg Timney. No fucking idea what the hat has to do with this or why this pick was posted. picture from this thread |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 10:19:26 AM EDT
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G specialize in making triggers and selling other stuff on the side. Everyone else makes other crap and sells triggers on the side.
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Posted: 1/25/2016 12:49:29 PM EDT
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He's out of hats! There are no hats! The hat is a lie! Proof from SHOT. http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q339/khalimadeath/20160122_233303_zpslqn0clix.jpg They must have run out of hats after noon on the last day. 
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Posted: 1/25/2016 12:56:44 PM EDT
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It looks nice. I like the flat face, I might have to try a Timney sometime. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's out of hats! There are no hats! The hat is a lie! Proof from SHOT. http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q339/khalimadeath/20160122_233303_zpslqn0clix.jpg Timney. No fucking idea what the hat has to do with this or why this pick was posted. picture from this thread i run timney in my bolt rifles. i absolutely love them. very wide face and a perfect break every time |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 12:59:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i run timney in my bolt rifles. i absolutely love them. very wide face and a perfect break every time Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He's out of hats! There are no hats! The hat is a lie! Proof from SHOT. http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q339/khalimadeath/20160122_233303_zpslqn0clix.jpg Timney. No fucking idea what the hat has to do with this or why this pick was posted. picture from this thread i run timney in my bolt rifles. i absolutely love them. very wide face and a perfect break every time |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 1:57:20 PM EDT
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I need to grab a Timney for one of my 700's. The stock trigger on it sucks. I have a flat Timney in my R700 build. I love it. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 6:41:43 PM EDT
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I need to grab a Timney for one of my 700's. The stock trigger on it sucks. I have a flat Timney in my R700 build. I love it. I've got their 3lb drop-in in an SPR I'm building. Incredible trigger pull, but it'd be too light for a home defense rifle (I think). |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 8:01:12 PM EDT
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I really don't understand the Geissele/LaRue drama.
I think both are good triggers, and there is plenty of room in the market for both of them. That being said, the MBT is a superior trigger.
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Posted: 1/25/2016 9:07:53 PM EDT
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I really don't understand the Geissele/LaRue drama. I think both are good triggers, and there is plenty of room in the market for both of them. That being said, the MBT is a superior trigger. Lol. You don't understand the drama? Ask your Texan boss. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 11:44:22 PM EDT
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I really don't understand the Geissele/LaRue drama. I think both are good triggers, and there is plenty of room in the market for both of them. That being said, the MBT is a superior trigger. Superior to which Geissele trigger? Larue builds what...1 trigger model? Geissele builds about a dozen models including auto triggers. Kinda hard for any Larue trigger to be superior when Larue doesn't even build comparable models to most of the Geissele offerings. Larue's genius is in marketing "match grade/texas spec" items to people who would otherwise be dumping mags of wolf into the dirt. Geissele is not marketing to that crowd. The guys buying Larue are often the same ones that are buying a lot of non duty grade gear. That's not to say it isn't quality kit...just that it isn't usually the kind of gear that you would see in the hands of someone who uses it in a life safety application. |
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Posted: 1/25/2016 11:49:08 PM EDT
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That's not to say it isn't quality kit...just that it isn't usually the kind of gear that you would see in the hands of someone who uses it in a life safety application. you said kit 
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Posted: 1/26/2016 12:29:00 AM EDT
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Superior to which Geissele trigger? Larue builds what...1 trigger model? Geissele builds about a dozen models including auto triggers. Kinda hard for any Larue trigger to be superior when Larue doesn't even build comparable models to most of the Geissele offerings. Larue's genius is in marketing "match grade/texas spec" items to people who would otherwise be dumping mags of wolf into the dirt. Geissele is not marketing to that crowd. The guys buying Larue are often the same ones that are buying a lot of non duty grade gear. That's not to say it isn't quality kit...just that it isn't usually the kind of gear that you would see in the hands of someone who uses it in a life safety application. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I really don't understand the Geissele/LaRue drama. I think both are good triggers, and there is plenty of room in the market for both of them. That being said, the MBT is a superior trigger. Superior to which Geissele trigger? Larue builds what...1 trigger model? Geissele builds about a dozen models including auto triggers. Kinda hard for any Larue trigger to be superior when Larue doesn't even build comparable models to most of the Geissele offerings. Larue's genius is in marketing "match grade/texas spec" items to people who would otherwise be dumping mags of wolf into the dirt. Geissele is not marketing to that crowd. The guys buying Larue are often the same ones that are buying a lot of non duty grade gear. That's not to say it isn't quality kit...just that it isn't usually the kind of gear that you would see in the hands of someone who uses it in a life safety application. 
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