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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:00:15 PM EDT
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The right attorney could figure it out and get it sorted out pretty quickly. If it were in CO I know exactly who I'd call.
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:13:18 PM EDT
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Bought some land with some equipment on it. Found a contact # for Cricket but it no longer works. Cricket was really Leap who got bought out by AT&T but they claim they don't have anything at this location. AT&T has boxes on the ground with ID numbers but no phone numbers. Also found some Chasetel docs but they were bought out by Cricket 15 years ago. There are electric meters but the electric company will not tell me who is paying the bills 
I called numerous companies and tower managers but so far no luck. It is part of an estate and the previous owner is not around to tell me the story and there is no record of the equipment at the courthouse. Did you look at SBA? http://map.sbasite.com/ |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:30:22 PM EDT
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Call the electric company. Tell them to remove their meters from your property. Keep the person's name, time, date of your call. Be nice. Just tell them it's your property, and that you have not given anyone permission to install those meters. Give them a deadline, like 30 days out. If they don't pull the meters, just pull them out yourself. Leave them there - you don't want to be accused of stealing meters. That'll get their attention. Someone will contact you. He will find that they do indeed have a contract to put those meters there. There should be a sign on the gate indicating who leases the complex. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:31:45 PM EDT
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shut the main breaker OFF. See who comes to turn it back ON. yep, works everytime And then when the Feds show up (the FCC) to find out who is interfering with telecom services, we'll see if it "works every time". |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:32:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He will find that they do indeed have a contract to put those meters there. There should be a sign on the gate indicating who leases the complex. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Call the electric company. Tell them to remove their meters from your property. Keep the person's name, time, date of your call. Be nice. Just tell them it's your property, and that you have not given anyone permission to install those meters. Give them a deadline, like 30 days out. If they don't pull the meters, just pull them out yourself. Leave them there - you don't want to be accused of stealing meters. That'll get their attention. Someone will contact you. He will find that they do indeed have a contract to put those meters there. There should be a sign on the gate indicating who leases the complex. I'm amazed no one thought of that yet! |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:33:57 PM EDT
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this is the right tool to use. If you're in the AO of an airport, there is a good chance the tower is in the FAA obstruction database as well Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchGeographic.jsp You can enter an address or lat/long here this is the right tool to use. If you're in the AO of an airport, there is a good chance the tower is in the FAA obstruction database as well Should be an FCC ASR number somewhere on the fence or the gate. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:36:11 PM EDT
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Great idea! I'm amazed no one thought of that yet! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Call the electric company. Tell them to remove their meters from your property. Keep the person's name, time, date of your call. Be nice. Just tell them it's your property, and that you have not given anyone permission to install those meters. Give them a deadline, like 30 days out. If they don't pull the meters, just pull them out yourself. Leave them there - you don't want to be accused of stealing meters. That'll get their attention. Someone will contact you. He will find that they do indeed have a contract to put those meters there. There should be a sign on the gate indicating who leases the complex. I'm amazed no one thought of that yet! Blow it out your ass. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:39:45 PM EDT
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This, title company should have done their job as well.
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I would assume that the easement for the tower would be filed with county. Call your title insurance company. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:39:53 PM EDT
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Should be an FCC ASR number somewhere on the fence or the gate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchGeographic.jsp You can enter an address or lat/long here this is the right tool to use. If you're in the AO of an airport, there is a good chance the tower is in the FAA obstruction database as well Should be an FCC ASR number somewhere on the fence or the gate. Should be..... Should be 2. But there are none. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:41:45 PM EDT
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This, title company should have done their job as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would assume that the easement for the tower would be filed with county. Call your title insurance company. LOL. 
I spent 4 hours with the Register of Deeds, the Tax Assessor, and County Engineering. There are no records for them to find. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:44:41 PM EDT
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host an arfcom ham radio get together at the site of your new tower
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:44:54 PM EDT
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shut the main breaker OFF. See who comes to turn it back ON. Came here to post this. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:49:49 PM EDT
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You could also probably put your own chain and lock on the gate with a sign containing your contact info and "please call ###-###-#### to have this removed". It presses the issue without destruction of property.
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Posted: 12/2/2015 10:54:16 PM EDT
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Don't most cell sites have back up generators? be sure to save it when you level the rest.
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Posted: 12/2/2015 11:30:07 PM EDT
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Guess who didn't get a title search before they bought the property.......if it has a lease or lien , it would have popped up.
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Posted: 12/2/2015 11:39:17 PM EDT
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Guess who didn't get a title search before they bought the property.......if it has a lease or lien , it would have popped up. Go to bed you are drunk. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:21:17 AM EDT
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That sac belong to the phone company. And no, it's not yours.
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:23:36 AM EDT
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It's registered with the FCC... Start there.
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:27:48 AM EDT
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Blow it out your ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Call the electric company. Tell them to remove their meters from your property. Keep the person's name, time, date of your call. Be nice. Just tell them it's your property, and that you have not given anyone permission to install those meters. Give them a deadline, like 30 days out. If they don't pull the meters, just pull them out yourself. Leave them there - you don't want to be accused of stealing meters. That'll get their attention. Someone will contact you. He will find that they do indeed have a contract to put those meters there. There should be a sign on the gate indicating who leases the complex. I'm amazed no one thought of that yet! Blow it out your ass. Lol. It was kind of a dumb suggestion. ....after all this time of looking and calling, and all he had to do was read the sign. It was the darndest thing I tell you! Lol |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:29:25 AM EDT
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If there's a fence or tower, it should have an FCC ID # on it, (if required)
You should be able to do a search to find who the tower is registered to. Fence should also have the name of the tower management co. The tower owner would have contact info for whomever has equipment on site. The boxes you are seeing might simply be the Telco transport to the tower equipment that is, or used to be, at the location. Like the box on the side of your house that says AT&T. ETA: I read further, very strange the fence has no posted ID info, that isn't to FCC regs. Something's screwy. Even if the equipment owner abandoned in place, there should still be regulatory signage present. Is there a secondary access gate, say at the entrance to the property/road? It should have signage/ ASR info, as well. Maybe at the base of the tower on one of the legs? |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:31:01 AM EDT
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It's the NSA's. Since that bill expired you can remove the equipment. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:31:22 AM EDT
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Go to bed you are drunk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guess who didn't get a title search before they bought the property.......if it has a lease or lien , it would have popped up. Go to bed you are drunk. Nope, just a 103.2 F temp with flu. But Your attorney has got some 'splainin' to do. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:33:07 AM EDT
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http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/pyramidmountain/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpspiyrxrdy.jpeg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/pyramidmountain/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsiq1qhgl3.jpeg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/pyramidmountain/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsqb8re8rr.jpeg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/pyramidmountain/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsbz7qfmek.jpeg http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/pyramidmountain/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsp4d3cdrz.jpeg First pic: Transport, landline, not cell tower equipment. 2nd pic, possibly transport. Can you get a better pic of the placard on the cabinet in your 3rd pic? Does the fence not have signage? What about the tower itself? |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:35:42 AM EDT
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The white ped labeled AT&T probably houses a cable splice. The box labeled 1003 chase is a subscriber access interface, aka phone company guys will be getting in there constantly.
I'm not really sure why you care who owns it... Phone equipment is a public utility and there's nothing you can do or need to know about it. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:37:36 AM EDT
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shut the main breaker OFF. See who comes to turn it back ON. yep, works everytime This would be my first instinct too. Simple, but effective. That could end badly for you if the FBI or another alphabet agency has equipment present. Tampering with these facilities is a Federal crime, regardless. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:38:39 AM EDT
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The white ped labeled AT&T probably houses a cable splice. The box labeled 1003 chase is a subscriber access interface, aka phone company guys will be getting in there constantly. I'm not really sure why you care who owns it... Phone equipment is a public utility and there's nothing you can do or need to know about it. because he is owed rent. Tower leases can make for a nice Christmas |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:40:22 AM EDT
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The white ped labeled AT&T probably houses a cable splice. The box labeled 1003 chase is a subscriber access interface, aka phone company guys will be getting in there constantly. I'm not really sure why you care who owns it... Phone equipment is a public utility and there's nothing you can do or need to know about it. because he is owed rent. Tower leases can make for a nice Christmas He isn't owed shit. He does not own the land the equipment is on. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:40:57 AM EDT
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Should be an FCC ASR number somewhere on the fence or the gate. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchGeographic.jsp You can enter an address or lat/long here this is the right tool to use. If you're in the AO of an airport, there is a good chance the tower is in the FAA obstruction database as well Should be an FCC ASR number somewhere on the fence or the gate. If the tower meets the height requirements for FCC licensing. Being rural, it probably does. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:41:31 AM EDT
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OP, take no one's advice about interfering with telecommunications equipment. Send me PM, I'll help u with what u need.
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:42:44 AM EDT
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Government equipment for sure.
Its frying your swimmers as I type this. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:43:02 AM EDT
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My father-in-law had some land on a hilltop just off of a highway in rural central Oklahoma.
A cell phone company contacted him and offered to lease ground to put up an antenna. I looked the lease over and the cell phone company basically leased ALL of the land in a length-of-antenna diameter around the antenna base. Seemed like it worked out to several acres total. In summary; the lease said that he could still use any of the land around the antenna, but since they were leasing all the land where the antenna could fall, they were not responsible for anything he owned that might get smashed if the antenna were to fall on it. He agreed to the lease, the cell company came out and built a tower, and then cleaned up all the construction mess and it was like they were never there...except there was this big-ass cell phone tower out in the middle of one of his pastures. When he sold the place a few years later the lease with the cell phone company was part of the deal. My FIL had paid cash for the place, but he sold it to a young couple and they had to take out a mortgage and I understand the lease payments they received from the cell phone company covered about half their monthly mortgage so it turned out to be a great deal for them. Oh yeah, and you should be collecting lease payments on that land now, because someone is getting those lease payments...and it was a hefty chunk of change too. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:47:00 AM EDT
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The white ped labeled AT&T probably houses a cable splice. The box labeled 1003 chase is a subscriber access interface, aka phone company guys will be getting in there constantly. I'm not really sure why you care who owns it... Phone equipment is a public utility and there's nothing you can do or need to know about it. Probably because he owns the land the TOWER compound is on, and should be getting a check from the tower management company/owner? 
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:51:02 AM EDT
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He isn't owed shit. He does not own the land the equipment is on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The white ped labeled AT&T probably houses a cable splice. The box labeled 1003 chase is a subscriber access interface, aka phone company guys will be getting in there constantly. I'm not really sure why you care who owns it... Phone equipment is a public utility and there's nothing you can do or need to know about it. because he is owed rent. Tower leases can make for a nice Christmas He isn't owed shit. He does not own the land the equipment is on. According to the op, he does. If you're referring to the term "easement"..... An easement doesn't cover erecting a several hundred foot tower and the compound surrounding it. It covers the path to that compound for aerial /buried services. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:51:20 AM EDT
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Bought some land with some equipment on it. Found a contact # for Cricket but it no longer works. Cricket was really Leap who got bought out by AT&T but they claim they don't have anything at this location. AT&T has boxes on the ground with ID numbers but no phone numbers. Also found some Chasetel docs but they were bought out by Cricket 15 years ago. There are electric meters but the electric company will not tell me who is paying the bills
I called numerous companies and tower managers but so far no luck. It is part of an estate and the previous owner is not around to tell me the story and there is no record of the equipment at the courthouse. Are you sure the tower pad is actually part of the parcel you purchased ? Is/are the Tower Pad locations listed in your survey ? Does your survey even make mention of Tower and Pad ? Title company could be on the hook..? Contact them and explain... They will get after it right away to make sure they are not at fault. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:54:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: shut the main breaker OFF. See who comes to turn it back ON. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:54:44 AM EDT
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He isn't owed shit. He does not own the land the equipment is on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The white ped labeled AT&T probably houses a cable splice. The box labeled 1003 chase is a subscriber access interface, aka phone company guys will be getting in there constantly. I'm not really sure why you care who owns it... Phone equipment is a public utility and there's nothing you can do or need to know about it. because he is owed rent. Tower leases can make for a nice Christmas He isn't owed shit. He does not own the land the equipment is on. Actually, he most likely DOES own the land the equipment is on. The Telco equipment is probably there on an easement which only allows them certain property rights such as access but not ownership of the property it occupies. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 12:54:50 AM EDT
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He isn't owed shit. He does not own the land the equipment is on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The white ped labeled AT&T probably houses a cable splice. The box labeled 1003 chase is a subscriber access interface, aka phone company guys will be getting in there constantly. I'm not really sure why you care who owns it... Phone equipment is a public utility and there's nothing you can do or need to know about it. because he is owed rent. Tower leases can make for a nice Christmas He isn't owed shit. He does not own the land the equipment is on. That can easily be determined by going to the county clerks office and getting a plat of the land. There will an access road as well, which may or may not have an easement for workers to get to the tower. This should have been explained to OP by his attorney during the purchase....or at least by the seller. If it is a private company cell tower, you damn well betcha he's owed rent unless the previous owner had that spot of property surveyed and sold it outright and granted an easement road access......even if its some kind of FAA tower taken by eminent domain, either of those would be marked on the plat. Or , previous owner sold the property and said nothing thinking he could still collect the checks. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:00:10 AM EDT
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Go to the Fcc's website. Snoop around there. They will have a license on file for the address or GPS coordinates. Also, under whatever company owns the license, ATT, Sprint,etc.
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:12:57 AM EDT
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Wow... I find this interesting but I'm out of ides to help (already covered)
But holy hell VERY few people actually read before posting... |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:15:00 AM EDT
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When you bury your dead diseased cattle without reporting with state government agriculture department, don't cut the cell tower's fiber
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:16:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:24:47 AM EDT
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Lol. It was kind of a dumb suggestion. ....after all this time of looking and calling, and all he had to do was read the sign. It was the darndest thing I tell you! Lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Call the electric company. Tell them to remove their meters from your property. Keep the person's name, time, date of your call. Be nice. Just tell them it's your property, and that you have not given anyone permission to install those meters. Give them a deadline, like 30 days out. If they don't pull the meters, just pull them out yourself. Leave them there - you don't want to be accused of stealing meters. That'll get their attention. Someone will contact you. He will find that they do indeed have a contract to put those meters there. There should be a sign on the gate indicating who leases the complex. I'm amazed no one thought of that yet! Blow it out your ass. Lol. It was kind of a dumb suggestion. ....after all this time of looking and calling, and all he had to do was read the sign. It was the darndest thing I tell you! Lol No offense, but I deal with people daily that can't read what's on a sign right in front of them. Sometimes asking an obvious question is more polite than calling someone a dumbass, and lets them solve the problem themselves.
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:30:32 AM EDT
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Is there a sign on it with 1) Short name related to a nearby town or community? or 2) Something like <LETTER LETTER>12345X that starts with the two letters of a nearby major city or 3) Something like SX12345AB1234? or 4) A medium size number that starts with 1 or 2 This could indicate which major carrier owns it or leases space there |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:35:10 AM EDT
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The equipment is intact and some looks new. Neighbor said 9 white trucks came up on a Sunday morning and spent a few hours up there. Not one vehicle had a name painted on it. No names on the fence at all. An old Cricket # was on a plate on one box but it is non-working I tried the fcc database and got 622 hits 
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This will be The Greatest Safe Thread of the Year! Is the tower intact? Somewhere on the fence (by law) is a sign with the owners name. As someone else said, you can punch those coordinates into the fcc database. Or email me the street address and I'll do it for you at work tomorrow. Killing power would be the last option. That looks like cell gear, but you never know what they are really doing. Interesting!! The equipment is intact and some looks new. Neighbor said 9 white trucks came up on a Sunday morning and spent a few hours up there. Not one vehicle had a name painted on it. No names on the fence at all. An old Cricket # was on a plate on one box but it is non-working I tried the fcc database and got 622 hits
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:43:39 AM EDT
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Does the tower have lights?
You could always try calling the FAA/local airport and advise you would like to contact the tower owner at such and such address about an issue with their tower lighting system, but you can't find regulatory info posted, and leave your contact info. I bet someone calls you riki tik. FAA regulatory fines are something that gets everyone's attention. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 1:52:54 AM EDT
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The Cricket site should be powered down already and the telco to the site has, or is in process of being disconnected. All Cricket sites have been off air since at least the middle of September.
Your third pic down is definitely a Cricket site. The number on the placard would normally go to our Network Operations Center, but I believe that shut down a few weeks ago. Your fifth pic, with the external amplifiers there on the back of the cabinet, will be a different carrier. Any chance there's a placard on that cabinet? PM me the site ID on the bottom of that placard and address and I'll see if I can get you in touch with some folks on the property management side. Cricket leased space within the compounds on 99% of the sites. So, there should be property management company like Crown Castle or ATC involved. Not sure who the property management companies are in Tennessee. I've only dealt with the ones out here in CA, AZ, and NV. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 2:07:38 AM EDT
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Do a 'license search' on the FCC page. All transcevers in operation are required to be licensed through the FCC with a call sign. Once you have the call sign you can then do a call sign lookup on the FCC page which will give you the name, address, and phone number of the person currently responsible for the tower.
If you need help, you can go into the outdoors section here on ARFCOM and post up in the HAM section. Although I'm a HAM, I'm not as knowledgeable as those guys. Sorry, I tried to get you a link, but I'm on crappy free hotel wifi and it's giving me fits with the FCC site right now. I guarantee you the HAM section will give you the answer in 10min. |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 2:17:14 AM EDT
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Stingray tower
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Posted: 12/3/2015 2:19:55 AM EDT
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Call the electric company. Tell them to remove their meters from your property. Keep the person's name, time, date of your call. Be nice. Just tell them it's your property, and that you have not given anyone permission to install those meters. Give them a deadline, like 30 days out. If they don't pull the meters, just pull them out yourself. Leave them there - you don't want to be accused of stealing meters. That'll get their attention. Someone will contact you. Except that he does not own the land that the tower/meters/equipment is on. The tower company does along with an easement to gain access. All of that would have been sold to the tower company prior to the OP owning it. I would start with the realestate agent. I'm utterly shocked that they did not provide info on it prior to the sale. J- |
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Posted: 12/3/2015 2:27:10 AM EDT
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The white ped labeled AT&T probably houses a cable splice. The box labeled 1003 chase is a subscriber access interface, aka phone company guys will be getting in there constantly. I'm not really sure why you care who owns it... Phone equipment is a public utility and there's nothing you can do or need to know about it. because he is owed rent. Tower leases can make for a nice Christmas kinda all depends on how the original deal was done, doesn't it? Like if the prior owner SOLD the land and easement to the tower owner instead of leasing it. J- |
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