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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:03:00 AM EDT
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When Lucas decided that he knew how to make Star Wars more appealing to kids, everything went to shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can we all agree that Episode 6 was when everything started going down hill? Seriously who the fuck let George get away with fucking Ewoks bringing down the Empire? I think I read somewhere it was originally supposed to be Wookies, that would have made more sense and been much more badass. When Lucas decided that he knew how to make Star Wars more appealing to kids, everything went to shit. That's why I have hope for the new trilogy. I hope JJ makes a great movie and has none of the worthless cutesy shit. I do believe the prequels had great potential but were hammed by Lucas and Hayden's shitty acting. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:03:45 AM EDT
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How come R2D2 couldn't fly itself around after Episode III?
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:05:53 AM EDT
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How come R2D2 couldn't fly itself around after Episode III? Because they didn't even think of that until episode 2 where he suddenly had rockets in his legs to fly around the battle droid factory. Not to mention how he could telescope his head upwards a few feet to have it pop up on top of the N-1 starfighter in episode 1. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:21:02 AM EDT
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Can we all agree that Episode 6 was when everything started going down hill? Seriously who the fuck let George get away with fucking Ewoks bringing down the Empire? I think I read somewhere it was originally supposed to be Wookies, that would have made more sense and been much more badass. Agreed and yup, Wookies. The one value to the Star Wars Holiday Special is the glimpse of the Wookie Homeworld that Endor should have been. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:24:57 AM EDT
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How come R2D2 couldn't fly itself around after Episode III? They seemed to have developed that ability some time after the Time War and the destruction of Gallifrey. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:25:19 AM EDT
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How come R2D2 couldn't fly itself around after Episode III? His rocket boosters were made in China and the replacement warranty ran out between Ep III and IV. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:40:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How come R2D2 couldn't fly itself around after Episode III? |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 5:47:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2015 6:03:25 AM EDT
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Lucas is like Jimmy Carter. The longer he lives the more you realize that he's an idiot and lucky he isn't a homeless person
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Posted: 11/28/2015 6:59:34 AM EDT
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Good news: http://www.geek.com/news/new-star-wars-trilogy-has-nothing-to-do-with-george-lucas-plans-1640317/
New Star Wars trilogy has nothing to do with George Lucas’ plans "After the Disney sale, it leaked that Lucas’ treatment for future Star Wars movies focused on teenagers, which some have speculated spooked Disney who does not want a re-tread of the sequels’ problems with 9-year-old Jake Lloyd playing an annoying Darth Vader. Instead, with Kathleen Kennedy at the head of Lucasfilm now, they decided to take Star Wars in a new direction. “[Disney] decided they didn’t want to use those stories, they decided they were gonna go do their own thing,” Lucas said in a interview with CBS. “They weren’t that keen to have me involved anyway. But at the same time, I said if I get in there I’m just going to cause trouble. Because they’re not going to do what I want them to do. And I don’t have the control to do that anymore. All I would do is muck everything up. So I said, ‘Okay, I will go my way, and I’ll let them go their way.’”" |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 7:03:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get all the despecialized originals. They're amazing. Great work they did on perfecting the old films. Agreed, far more enjoyable. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 10:05:40 AM EDT
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So, why didn't Lucas shop in young Obi Wan as well? Because, in death, every member of Project Mayhem has a name. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 10:56:58 AM EDT
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Agreed, far more enjoyable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get all the despecialized originals. They're amazing. Great work they did on perfecting the old films. Agreed, far more enjoyable. Are these download-only bootlegs, or can I buy the dvds somewhere? |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 11:15:06 AM EDT
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Did I make it in before someone revealed that the new villain, Darth Vader's secret apprentice is in fact Jar Jar Binks?
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Posted: 11/28/2015 11:24:57 AM EDT
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I could have sworn the redone Ep 6 included a young Obi Wan (Ewan MacGregor) as well the young Anakin ghost.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 11:36:14 AM EDT
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I just finished watching my marathong of EP1-6 and noticed that young Anakin was ghosted in with Yoda and OB1 at the end of EPVI. For some reason I missed it the last time I saw my marathon years ago. So the version that I thought I had is not the 77-82 original movie release...correct? Sounds painful. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:15:18 PM EDT
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It was not Spock, it was McCoy who shot first---right in the arm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Spock shot first. It was not Spock, it was McCoy who shot first---right in the arm. Dammit Dave, bones is a Dr. not a gun slinger. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:17:21 PM EDT
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Wait. He was blind??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What was the name of the Emperor in EP1 (the one in the hologram) I know that Sidous took over in EP3. umm, it was Sidious the whole time. Wait. He was blind??? And he was a ghost the whole time, he just didn't know it. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:19:41 PM EDT
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SO Darth Sidous and Emperor Palpatine are the same person? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What was the name of the Emperor in EP1 (the one in the hologram) I know that Sidous took over in EP3. umm, it was Sidious the whole time. Not sure if sidious. 
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:21:04 PM EDT
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No, kidding. They even brought back the same actor from Episode 6 to reprise the role: Ian McDiarmid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What was the name of the Emperor in EP1 (the one in the hologram) I know that Sidous took over in EP3. umm, it was Sidious the whole time. Yes. You really need to rewatch them. No, kidding. They even brought back the same actor from Episode 6 to reprise the role: Ian McDiarmid. With one exception: "When the Emperor first appeared in The Empire Strikes Back, he was portrayed by Elaine Baker, the wife of make-up designer Rick Baker.[53] Chimpanzee eyes were superimposed into darkened eye sockets during post-production "in order to create a truly unsettling image". The character was voiced by Clive Revill." |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:22:32 PM EDT
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Spock shot first. That's a dirty lie. No it wasn't; it was the Alternate Universe" Spock. I saw him. *tosses his red shirt in the incinerator*. 
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:27:41 PM EDT
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What was the name of the Emperor in EP1 (the one in the hologram) I know that Sidous took over in EP3. Palpatine=Sidious=Emperor, from EP1-6. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! 
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:28:46 PM EDT
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Yes. You really need to rewatch them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What was the name of the Emperor in EP1 (the one in the hologram) I know that Sidous took over in EP3. umm, it was Sidious the whole time. Yes. You really need to rewatch them. No! Fuck Episodes 1-3 and fuck George Lucas for raping Star Wars with his "special" editions. And fuck George Lucas again for that Crystal Skull bullshit too. Fucking asshole. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:30:24 PM EDT
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Damn, people, at least use the spoiler tags. It's not like this info has been widely known for 30 something years or anything, right?
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:33:15 PM EDT
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Can we all agree that Episode 6 was when everything started going down hill? Seriously who the fuck let George get away with fucking Ewoks bringing down the Empire? I think I read somewhere it was originally supposed to be Wookies, that would have made more sense and been much more badass. I agree. The ewoks turned me off of the rest of the series. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:35:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2015 12:48:05 PM EDT
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Not sure if sidious.
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What was the name of the Emperor in EP1 (the one in the hologram) I know that Sidous took over in EP3. umm, it was Sidious the whole time. Not sure if sidious.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 1:01:20 PM EDT
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Did I make it in before someone revealed that the new villain, Darth Vader's secret apprentice is in fact Jar Jar Binks? Lucas should have went through with the plans to make Jar Jar the main Sith lord behind it all. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 1:10:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: kcolg might be. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What was the name of the Emperor in EP1 (the one in the hologram) I know that Sidous took over in EP3. umm, it was Sidious the whole time. Wait. He was blind??? kcolg might be. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 1:21:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/28/2015 2:16:37 PM EDT
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It's not like this info has been widely known for 30 something years or anything, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, people, at least use the spoiler tags. It's not like this info has been widely known for 30 something years or anything, right? 
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Posted: 11/28/2015 2:24:03 PM EDT
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So the Ewoks were originally supposed to be Wookiees.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 3:19:43 PM EDT
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Spock shot first. Does this mean Han died saving the ship and was dumped on the Genesis planet? |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 3:25:55 PM EDT
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Harmy's despecialized editions. Go acquire them. Watch the originals again without the CG bullshit and Lucas edits. I love my despecialized editions. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 3:30:49 PM EDT
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They seemed to have developed that ability some time after the Time War and the destruction of Gallifrey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How come R2D2 couldn't fly itself around after Episode III? They seemed to have developed that ability some time after the Time War and the destruction of Gallifrey.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 4:15:17 PM EDT
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Damn, people, at least use the spoiler tags.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 4:16:42 PM EDT
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They seemed to have developed that ability some time after the Time War and the destruction of Gallifrey. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How come R2D2 couldn't fly itself around after Episode III? They seemed to have developed that ability some time after the Time War and the destruction of Gallifrey.  well played 
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Posted: 11/28/2015 6:49:33 PM EDT
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Damn, people, at least use the spoiler tags. 
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Posted: 11/28/2015 7:31:04 PM EDT
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Good news: http://www.geek.com/news/new-star-wars-trilogy-has-nothing-to-do-with-george-lucas-plans-1640317/ New Star Wars trilogy has nothing to do with George Lucas’ plans "After the Disney sale, it leaked that Lucas’ treatment for future Star Wars movies focused on teenagers, which some have speculated spooked Disney who does not want a re-tread of the sequels’ problems with 9-year-old Jake Lloyd playing an annoying Darth Vader. Instead, with Kathleen Kennedy at the head of Lucasfilm now, they decided to take Star Wars in a new direction. “[Disney] decided they didn’t want to use those stories, they decided they were gonna go do their own thing,” Lucas said in a interview with CBS. “They weren’t that keen to have me involved anyway. But at the same time, I said if I get in there I’m just going to cause trouble. Because they’re not going to do what I want them to do. And I don’t have the control to do that anymore. All I would do is muck everything up. So I said, ‘Okay, I will go my way, and I’ll let them go their way.’”" Disney chose wisely. Lucas writes/directs teen angst and romance with all the nuance and eloquence of a junior high or high school drama club. Actually, that's not fair to teen filmmaking. I help judge a statewide teen film festival, and some of the stuff I've seen kids write and produce would make your jaw drop. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 7:41:27 PM EDT
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Damn, people, at least use the spoiler tags. It was Earth all along! The damn dirty apes took over! |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 8:19:45 PM EDT
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Disney chose wisely. Lucas writes/directs teen angst and romance with all the nuance and eloquence of a junior high or high school drama club. Actually, that's not fair to teen filmmaking. I help judge a statewide teen film festival, and some of the stuff I've seen kids write and produce would make your jaw drop. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good news: http://www.geek.com/news/new-star-wars-trilogy-has-nothing-to-do-with-george-lucas-plans-1640317/ New Star Wars trilogy has nothing to do with George Lucas’ plans "After the Disney sale, it leaked that Lucas’ treatment for future Star Wars movies focused on teenagers, which some have speculated spooked Disney who does not want a re-tread of the sequels’ problems with 9-year-old Jake Lloyd playing an annoying Darth Vader. Instead, with Kathleen Kennedy at the head of Lucasfilm now, they decided to take Star Wars in a new direction. “[Disney] decided they didn’t want to use those stories, they decided they were gonna go do their own thing,” Lucas said in a interview with CBS. “They weren’t that keen to have me involved anyway. But at the same time, I said if I get in there I’m just going to cause trouble. Because they’re not going to do what I want them to do. And I don’t have the control to do that anymore. All I would do is muck everything up. So I said, ‘Okay, I will go my way, and I’ll let them go their way.’”" Disney chose wisely. Lucas writes/directs teen angst and romance with all the nuance and eloquence of a junior high or high school drama club. Actually, that's not fair to teen filmmaking. I help judge a statewide teen film festival, and some of the stuff I've seen kids write and produce would make your jaw drop. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile As far as kids movies go, Kathleen Kennedy's history with Don Bluth is incredible. Children's movies can be made without being stupid. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 8:29:53 PM EDT
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Good news: http://www.geek.com/news/new-star-wars-trilogy-has-nothing-to-do-with-george-lucas-plans-1640317/ New Star Wars trilogy has nothing to do with George Lucas’ plans "After the Disney sale, it leaked that Lucas’ treatment for future Star Wars movies focused on teenagers, which some have speculated spooked Disney who does not want a re-tread of the sequels’ problems with 9-year-old Jake Lloyd playing an annoying Darth Vader. Instead, with Kathleen Kennedy at the head of Lucasfilm now, they decided to take Star Wars in a new direction. “[Disney] decided they didn’t want to use those stories, they decided they were gonna go do their own thing, Lucas said in a interview with CBS. “They weren’t that keen to have me involved anyway. But at the same time, I said if I get in there I’m just going to cause trouble. Because they’re not going to do what I want them to do. And I don’t have the control to do that anymore. All I would do is muck everything up. So I said, ‘Okay, I will go my way, and I’ll let them go their way.’”" I like to think that the Disney exec that got to tell Lucas to "STFU and go away." is a Fanboy.
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Posted: 11/28/2015 9:39:17 PM EDT
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It was Earth all along! The damn dirty apes took over! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, people, at least use the spoiler tags. It was Earth all along! The damn dirty apes took over! Well, shit. I wasn't expecting that plot twist. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 9:43:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SO Darth Sidous and Emperor Palpatine are the same person? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What was the name of the Emperor in EP1 (the one in the hologram) I know that Sidous took over in EP3. umm, it was Sidious the whole time. Well fuck, now you've gone and ruined it. I was going to wait for Episode IX before I sat and watched the whole series in one go. People need to learn how to post SPOILER tags in this thread |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 9:46:00 PM EDT
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That's why I have hope for the new trilogy. I hope JJ makes a great movie and has none of the worthless cutesy shit. I do believe the prequels had great potential but were hammed by Lucas and Hayden's shitty acting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can we all agree that Episode 6 was when everything started going down hill? Seriously who the fuck let George get away with fucking Ewoks bringing down the Empire? I think I read somewhere it was originally supposed to be Wookies, that would have made more sense and been much more badass. When Lucas decided that he knew how to make Star Wars more appealing to kids, everything went to shit. That's why I have hope for the new trilogy. I hope JJ makes a great movie and has none of the worthless cutesy shit. I do believe the prequels had great potential but were hammed by Lucas and Hayden's shitty acting. Hayden is a shit actor, but it was the writing that fucked the movie. Just look at the lines and scenes. There was no actor on earth that could have done a "good" Anakin since Anakin is an awful character. Lucas and his yes men are responsible for all of those shitty movies. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 9:49:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did I make it in before someone revealed that the new villain, Darth Vader's secret apprentice is in fact Jar Jar Binks? The idea has been floated that Binks was actually a Sith Lord. It's not as far-fetched as it sounds, if you assume that his actions were deliberate and not simply shitty writing by someone desperate to make a cutesy character to attract children... oh, wait  |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 9:51:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: well played Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How come R2D2 couldn't fly itself around after Episode III? They seemed to have developed that ability some time after the Time War and the destruction of Gallifrey. well played Oh you may laugh, but the Doctor's now back on Gallifrey so who knows how much more Time War action we'll see |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 10:13:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hayden is a shit actor, but it was the writing that fucked the movie. Just look at the lines and scenes. There was no actor on earth that could have done a "good" Anakin since Anakin is an awful character. Lucas and his yes men are responsible for all of those shitty movies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Can we all agree that Episode 6 was when everything started going down hill? Seriously who the fuck let George get away with fucking Ewoks bringing down the Empire? I think I read somewhere it was originally supposed to be Wookies, that would have made more sense and been much more badass. When Lucas decided that he knew how to make Star Wars more appealing to kids, everything went to shit. That's why I have hope for the new trilogy. I hope JJ makes a great movie and has none of the worthless cutesy shit. I do believe the prequels had great potential but were hammed by Lucas and Hayden's shitty acting. Hayden is a shit actor, but it was the writing that fucked the movie. Just look at the lines and scenes. There was no actor on earth that could have done a "good" Anakin since Anakin is an awful character. Lucas and his yes men are responsible for all of those shitty movies. I'd dispute Hayden being a good actor but you are right about the writing being so terrible that even a good actor couldn't have played Anakin as anything other than a massive pile of fail and black hole levels of suckage. Hell, just look at Ewan McGregor. He's a really good actor, and in the prequels he completely nailed it in the role of Young Sir Alec Guinness, but he fails as Obi Wan because Lucas' writing was so horrible that the movies couldn't even make Obi-Fuckin-Wan Kenobi seem cool...in a trilogy that would be showing for the first time what fully trained Jedi were capable of doing and should have been right in the Kenobi wheelhouse. Yeah good work George. Star Wars is awesome despite George Lucas, rather than because of him. He didn't like Empire when he first saw the completed rough cut of it and wanted to make massive cuts and rewrites on it but only time, money, and the release date (thankfully) prevented him from doing it. When someone's best movie is the one they had the least to do with it starts to make one look like somewhat of a hack. By the time Jedi came out he was surrounded by people who couldn't conceive of telling him "Are you sure you want to do that?" or "Maybe that's not a good idea..." from there you get the "Special" Editions where he decided to fuck with things solely for the sake of fucking with them, and finally you get the prequels he's full bore delusional about both his talents and what his audience wants. Keeping George Lucas as far as possible away from any ongoing Star Wars projects is the smartest thing Disney could have done, and makes me guardedly optimistic about the future of the franchise. |
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Posted: 11/28/2015 10:38:59 PM EDT
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Harmy's despecialized editions. Go acquire them. Watch the originals again without the CG bullshit and Lucas edits. I love my despecialized editions. I've got ROTJ despecialized streaming from a PC to my BD player now, the kids are enthralled. Damn these looks good! |
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Posted: 11/29/2015 9:36:18 AM EDT
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Are these download-only bootlegs, or can I buy the dvds somewhere? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Get all the despecialized originals. They're amazing. Great work they did on perfecting the old films. Agreed, far more enjoyable. Are these download-only bootlegs, or can I buy the dvds somewhere? The "Bootleg" tag is a little bit of a grey area. From Den Of GeeK: Unfortunately, there are -- as you might expect -- legal issues. Harmy's work is deemed a fan edit, and a post on the Original Trilogy forums does make clear the following: This is a fan preservation made for culturally historical and educational purposes. Fanedits and preservations must not be bought or sold. Please report every fanedit or preservation you find for sale to webmasters of originaltrilogy.com. Fanedits and preservations are an artform and to be shared among legal owners of the officially available releases only. Do not support piracy. |
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