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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:44:16 PM EDT
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I heard they have little machine gun turrets that pop out of the grass in case of any "code reds".
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:45:13 PM EDT
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Do you even White House Down ,Bro?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:46:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you even White House Down ,Bro? So you're saying as long as they have some no name city cop on the grounds everything will be ok? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:46:44 PM EDT
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Knock on OP's door in 5, 4, 3....
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:46:58 PM EDT
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Unless they storm a golf course, zero won't be there....... Or maybe a bath house
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:47:39 PM EDT
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This is probably not a wise realm for speculation. 'cause many reasons.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:47:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: got me to thinking. Imagine a dozen or so individuals jumping the fence simultaneously. Would the SS be prepared for that many people coming in hard and fast? I know they have officers and K-9's patrolling the grounds along with snipers on the roof, but what if those fence jumpers were all wearing suicide vests? Would a major explosion in the yard derail the contingency plans that the SS boys have in place? I'm assuming there are plans in place for this type of attack but seriously, just imagine the chaos of a dozen people jumping that fence all at once. Let alone half of them exploding half way to the White House. What about a second wave of attackers coming over the fence during the distractions of the first wave blowing up? What if a dozen explosive drones suddenly breached the airspace with the intent of flying into the White House doors and windows? I think this type of attack is completely feasible considering the public is allowed to come so close to the perimeter fence. I've never visited (bucket list), but by watching the news footage on FOX yesterday and today it appears the waist high barrier that the guy jumped and then scaled the 8 foot fence really didn't really slow him down. FOX was pointing out that all those spikes they put on top of the fence recently didn't really stop the guy. Ok hive, pick this apart... |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:48:15 PM EDT
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Is OP retarded?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:53:04 PM EDT
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I don't see this thread lasting long, but I'm just going to ask you, do you not think they haven't thought this out thoroughly? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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got me to thinking. Imagine a dozen or so individuals jumping the fence simultaneously. Would the SS be prepared for that many people coming in hard and fast? I know they have officers and K-9's patrolling the grounds along with snipers on the roof, but what if those fence jumpers were all wearing suicide vests? Would a major explosion in the yard derail the contingency plans that the SS boys have in place? I'm assuming there are plans in place for this type of attack but seriously, just imagine the chaos of a dozen people jumping that fence all at once. Let alone half of them exploding half way to the White House. What about a second wave of attackers coming over the fence during the distractions of the first wave blowing up? What if a dozen explosive drones suddenly breached the airspace with the intent of flying into the White House doors and windows? I think this type of attack is completely feasible considering the public is allowed to come so close to the perimeter fence. I've never visited (bucket list), but by watching the news footage on FOX yesterday and today it appears the waist high barrier that the guy jumped and then scaled the 8 foot fence really didn't really slow him down. FOX was pointing out that all those spikes they put on top of the fence recently didn't really stop the guy. Ok hive, pick this apart... Did you read the post? I'm sure they have thought out every probability possible and even more that would be considered impossible. I posted this because FOX pointed out that the guy yesterday was the 7th incident of someone breaching the perimeter in the last 2 years. How could they defend against the scenario listed above? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:55:02 PM EDT
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didn't they do a movie about that a couple of years ago?
I think it just took one guy with a pistol to kill all the bad guys didn't it? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:55:54 PM EDT
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Is OP retarded? No, I'm not. Are you? Wait someone's knocking on the door... 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:57:03 PM EDT
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didn't they do a movie about that a couple of years ago? I think it just took one guy with a pistol to kill all the bad guys didn't it? White House Down. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:57:07 PM EDT
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So you're saying as long as they have some no name city cop on the grounds everything will be ok? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you even White House Down ,Bro? So you're saying as long as they have some no name city cop on the grounds everything will be ok? My mistake . I meant Olympus has Fallen. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:57:18 PM EDT
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Did you read the post? I'm sure they have thought out every probability possible and even more that would be considered impossible. I posted this because FOX pointed out that the guy yesterday was the 7th incident of someone breaching the perimeter in the last 2 years. How could they defend against the scenario listed above? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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got me to thinking. Imagine a dozen or so individuals jumping the fence simultaneously. Would the SS be prepared for that many people coming in hard and fast? I know they have officers and K-9's patrolling the grounds along with snipers on the roof, but what if those fence jumpers were all wearing suicide vests? Would a major explosion in the yard derail the contingency plans that the SS boys have in place? I'm assuming there are plans in place for this type of attack but seriously, just imagine the chaos of a dozen people jumping that fence all at once. Let alone half of them exploding half way to the White House. What about a second wave of attackers coming over the fence during the distractions of the first wave blowing up? What if a dozen explosive drones suddenly breached the airspace with the intent of flying into the White House doors and windows? I think this type of attack is completely feasible considering the public is allowed to come so close to the perimeter fence. I've never visited (bucket list), but by watching the news footage on FOX yesterday and today it appears the waist high barrier that the guy jumped and then scaled the 8 foot fence really didn't really slow him down. FOX was pointing out that all those spikes they put on top of the fence recently didn't really stop the guy. Ok hive, pick this apart... Did you read the post? I'm sure they have thought out every probability possible and even more that would be considered impossible. I posted this because FOX pointed out that the guy yesterday was the 7th incident of someone breaching the perimeter in the last 2 years. How could they defend against the scenario listed above? Well, I'd place my boom cannons up further and place my shock launcher towards the fence more. Level up my mines too. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:58:39 PM EDT
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Several suicide bombers blow holes in the wall, the other pour through.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:59:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:02:27 PM EDT
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White House Down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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didn't they do a movie about that a couple of years ago? I think it just took one guy with a pistol to kill all the bad guys didn't it? White House Down. I've never seen this before. I had to google it.
Guess I'll check it out. 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:03:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:05:12 PM EDT
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What exactly would suicide bombers blowing themself up in the middle of a huge empty lawn do?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:06:27 PM EDT
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I've never seen this before. I had to google it.
Guess I'll check it out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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didn't they do a movie about that a couple of years ago? I think it just took one guy with a pistol to kill all the bad guys didn't it? White House Down. I've never seen this before. I had to google it.
Guess I'll check it out. Olympus Has Fallen was better. Almost the exact same movie and came out at the exact same time. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:07:57 PM EDT
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One thing I have learned in my short life of 35 years. If you want someone dead badly enough, it will happen. The target being so high profile and highly guarded is what will test the resolve of the perpetrator. Generally speaking neither party is going to come out alive
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:08:13 PM EDT
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The WH may or may not have contingency plans.
It's the spirit of the officers utilizing those plans (The ROE so to speak) that make them effective. 7 fence jumpers in the last two years does not speak highly of a robust es·prit de corps and coherent ROE no matter what plan is on paper. Couple that with all the "moral" issues this current SS has had pop up in the news in the last 8 years and I think you have your answer. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:08:46 PM EDT
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Has something happened to the friendly working relationship between Obama and ISIS that I don't know about?
Or are you talking about homegrown domestic terrorism? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:10:47 PM EDT
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Knock on OP's door in 5, 4, 3.... No shit |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:11:05 PM EDT
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What exactly would suicide bombers blowing themself up in the middle of a huge empty lawn do? Moral victory. More likely they would not stop "just on the lawn" though. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:15:37 PM EDT
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I would imagine the response we've seen for one guy jumping the fence is quite a bit different from what you would see if several came in together, and I'm sure while a handful of guys have their eyes on the fence jumper, the rest of the perimeter is being watched like a hawk.
ETA: Why tip your hand for one fence jumper? Measured response, keep them guessing. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:18:13 PM EDT
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Several suicide bombers blow holes in the wall, the other pour through. If the attackers were motivated enough, it would be challenging to stop EVERY threat. Even with snipers picking off anyone coming through the gates... a few smoke grenades, a "diversion" on either side of the WH (ie breach one side first, then breach the second focusing your resources there) would probably allow attackers to get close enough to do some damage to the building - but I don't think suicide bombers on the front lawn could literally carry enough explosive to endanger the people inside? Anyway - everyone here is saying "of course they've thought of everything, it's what they do!" Yet 9/11 happened and we literally had no military planes in the air at the time (two F-16's had to be scrambled IIRC?); and Bengazi happened, plus every other scenario where someone in the .gov fucked up (but shouldn't have). Trusting the government to have it all figured out is exactly what most people here argue against every single day; so what makes this thought exercise any different? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:20:19 PM EDT
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That's nothing. Imagine Al Quaeda buying every seat on a single flight. Good luck preventing that hijacking.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:21:07 PM EDT
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How do I get rid of the little green arrow that indicates I read this thread?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:23:07 PM EDT
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Knock on OP's door in 5, 4, 3.... Yep, Xmas in an orange or red jumpsuit in a 4 x 8 cell. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:23:42 PM EDT
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That's nothing. Imagine Al Quaeda buying every seat on a single flight. Good luck preventing that hijacking. Hahahahahaha. I imagined a whole plane full sitting in their seat while one snack bar set off a suicide vest.......
Would suck for the flight crew, but I would love to see AQ blow up a whole plane full of themselves at 30,000 feet. Just to be sure, they should infiltrate the flight crew as well as the pilots. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:26:11 PM EDT
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What if a frog had wings ?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:26:45 PM EDT
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Hahahahahaha. I imagined a whole plane full sitting in their seat while one snack bar set off a suicide vest.......
Would suck for the flight crew, but I would love to see AQ blow up a whole plane full of themselves at 30,000 feet. Just to be sure, they should infiltrate the flight crew as well as the pilots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's nothing. Imagine Al Quaeda buying every seat on a single flight. Good luck preventing that hijacking. Hahahahahaha. I imagined a whole plane full sitting in their seat while one snack bar set off a suicide vest.......
Would suck for the flight crew, but I would love to see AQ blow up a whole plane full of themselves at 30,000 feet. Just to be sure, they should infiltrate the flight crew as well as the pilots. 72 Virgin Airlines? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:29:29 PM EDT
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This thread seems destined to be either locked or deleted. Why would you speculate about something like this on a public forum? Also, why would the muslims kill one of their own? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:32:55 PM EDT
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Unless they storm a golf course, zero won't be there....... Or maybe a bath house Or a wookie whore house. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:36:17 PM EDT
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If the attackers were motivated enough, it would be challenging to stop EVERY threat. Even with snipers picking off anyone coming through the gates... a few smoke grenades, a "diversion" on either side of the WH (ie breach one side first, then breach the second focusing your resources there) would probably allow attackers to get close enough to do some damage to the building - but I don't think suicide bombers on the front lawn could literally carry enough explosive to endanger the people inside? Anyway - everyone here is saying "of course they've thought of everything, it's what they do!" Yet 9/11 happened and we literally had no military planes in the air at the time (two F-16's had to be scrambled IIRC?); and Bengazi happened, plus every other scenario where someone in the .gov fucked up (but shouldn't have). Trusting the government to have it all figured out is exactly what most people here argue against every single day; so what makes this thought exercise any different? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Several suicide bombers blow holes in the wall, the other pour through. If the attackers were motivated enough, it would be challenging to stop EVERY threat. Even with snipers picking off anyone coming through the gates... a few smoke grenades, a "diversion" on either side of the WH (ie breach one side first, then breach the second focusing your resources there) would probably allow attackers to get close enough to do some damage to the building - but I don't think suicide bombers on the front lawn could literally carry enough explosive to endanger the people inside? Anyway - everyone here is saying "of course they've thought of everything, it's what they do!" Yet 9/11 happened and we literally had no military planes in the air at the time (two F-16's had to be scrambled IIRC?); and Bengazi happened, plus every other scenario where someone in the .gov fucked up (but shouldn't have). Trusting the government to have it all figured out is exactly what most people here argue against every single day; so what makes this thought exercise any different? This guy gets it. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:36:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread seems destined to be either locked or deleted. Why would you speculate about something like this on a public forum? Also, why would the muslims kill one of their own? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:37:04 PM EDT
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Isn't that how ISIS took Ramadi. Several suicide trucks and cars hit all the checkpoint/bases at once while many gunmen stormed in right afterwards? I don't know if the SS would break and flee like the Iraqi Army did but it sure was effective, and thats not a house. That's a whole city.
But as someone said earlier probably not a great topic to discuss here. With all the FBHO posts and then this, prolly drawing a lot of unneeded attention. ETA- For any 3 letter agencies watching, I'm a-okay with Obama, we cool bro. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:37:07 PM EDT
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This thread seems destined to be either locked or deleted. Why would you speculate about something like this on a public forum? Also, why would the muslims kill one of their own? Who said anything about Muslims? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:38:54 PM EDT
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Who said anything about Muslims? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread seems destined to be either locked or deleted. Why would you speculate about something like this on a public forum? Also, why would the muslims kill one of their own? Who said anything about Muslims? Well , that did it.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:38:56 PM EDT
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Did you read the post? I'm sure they have thought out every probability possible and even more that would be considered impossible. I posted this because FOX pointed out that the guy yesterday was the 7th incident of someone breaching the perimeter in the last 2 years. How could they defend against the scenario listed above? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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got me to thinking. Imagine a dozen or so individuals jumping the fence simultaneously. Would the SS be prepared for that many people coming in hard and fast? I know they have officers and K-9's patrolling the grounds along with snipers on the roof, but what if those fence jumpers were all wearing suicide vests? Would a major explosion in the yard derail the contingency plans that the SS boys have in place? I'm assuming there are plans in place for this type of attack but seriously, just imagine the chaos of a dozen people jumping that fence all at once. Let alone half of them exploding half way to the White House. What about a second wave of attackers coming over the fence during the distractions of the first wave blowing up? What if a dozen explosive drones suddenly breached the airspace with the intent of flying into the White House doors and windows? I think this type of attack is completely feasible considering the public is allowed to come so close to the perimeter fence. I've never visited (bucket list), but by watching the news footage on FOX yesterday and today it appears the waist high barrier that the guy jumped and then scaled the 8 foot fence really didn't really slow him down. FOX was pointing out that all those spikes they put on top of the fence recently didn't really stop the guy. Ok hive, pick this apart... Did you read the post? I'm sure they have thought out every probability possible and even more that would be considered impossible. I posted this because FOX pointed out that the guy yesterday was the 7th incident of someone breaching the perimeter in the last 2 years. How could they defend against the scenario listed above? AND EVERYONE is forgetting the guy that made it inside the WH not long ago. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:42:35 PM EDT
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If the attackers were motivated enough, it would be challenging to stop EVERY threat. Even with snipers picking off anyone coming through the gates... a few smoke grenades, a "diversion" on either side of the WH (ie breach one side first, then breach the second focusing your resources there) would probably allow attackers to get close enough to do some damage to the building - but I don't think suicide bombers on the front lawn could literally carry enough explosive to endanger the people inside? Anyway - everyone here is saying "of course they've thought of everything, it's what they do!" Yet 9/11 happened and we literally had no military planes in the air at the time (two F-16's had to be scrambled IIRC?); and Bengazi happened, plus every other scenario where someone in the .gov fucked up (but shouldn't have). Trusting the government to have it all figured out is exactly what most people here argue against every single day; so what makes this thought exercise any different? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Several suicide bombers blow holes in the wall, the other pour through. If the attackers were motivated enough, it would be challenging to stop EVERY threat. Even with snipers picking off anyone coming through the gates... a few smoke grenades, a "diversion" on either side of the WH (ie breach one side first, then breach the second focusing your resources there) would probably allow attackers to get close enough to do some damage to the building - but I don't think suicide bombers on the front lawn could literally carry enough explosive to endanger the people inside? Anyway - everyone here is saying "of course they've thought of everything, it's what they do!" Yet 9/11 happened and we literally had no military planes in the air at the time (two F-16's had to be scrambled IIRC?); and Bengazi happened, plus every other scenario where someone in the .gov fucked up (but shouldn't have). Trusting the government to have it all figured out is exactly what most people here argue against every single day; so what makes this thought exercise any different? The perceptions of strength and defensive measures is the best defensive measure. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:46:17 PM EDT
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I think it possible to get inside. The mentally messed up Vet with the knife proved that.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:47:59 PM EDT
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He was just delivering a Candy-Gram for Obongo.
IMHO the WH has long out-lived it's usefulness as the POTUS's residence. It should be turned in to a museum, the barricades removed, and the street reopened to traffic. The POTUS should reside on Mt. Weather, Virginia. It's hardened, secure, and close enough to DC for a POTUS to get there when they need to. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:00:39 PM EDT
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My mistake . I meant Olympus has Fallen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you even White House Down ,Bro? So you're saying as long as they have some no name city cop on the grounds everything will be ok? My mistake . I meant Olympus has Fallen. this |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:03:19 PM EDT
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What if a frog had wings ? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Then we MIGHT be able to post about it in thE flying venemous creature thread.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:06:18 PM EDT
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The logistics of this are a lot harder than you make it sound.
First, you gotta find a dozen people willing to kill themselves for jihad that are off the radar enough to all get to DC in a coordinated, communicated manner... |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:09:02 PM EDT
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The logistics of this are a lot harder than you make it sound. First, you gotta find a dozen people willing to kill themselves for jihad that are off the radar enough to all get to DC in a coordinated, communicated manner... Didn't somebody do that with more than dozen a few years back, took some flight lessons, visited Manhattan? I don't think it would be as hard as you think. Especially where ISIS is concerned, they seem to produce more suicide bombers than Osama ever did. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:09:13 PM EDT
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He was just delivering a Candy-Gram for Obongo.
IMHO the WH has long out-lived it's usefulness as the POTUS's residence. It should be turned in to a museum, the barricades removed, and the street reopened to traffic. The POTUS should reside on Mt. Weather, Virginia. It's hardened, secure, and close enough to DC for a POTUS to get there when they need to. Why not Camp David? We taxpayers already own it! |
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