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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:18:53 PM EDT
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Good for them, they'll sell a boatload. One was just sold, I know that for sure
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:26:16 PM EDT
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Good for them, they'll sell a boatload. One was just sold, I know that for sure +1 |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:31:02 PM EDT
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I'm curious to hear your reasoning as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That dude sucks. I'm curious to hear your reasoning as well. Honestly, who gives a fuck? If you like his videos, why waste time wondering why some anonymous random guy on the internet doesn't? |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:33:01 PM EDT
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Did ARFCOM just crash the CZ website because it was working, now its not.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:33:09 PM EDT
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The Scorpion is blow back operated. There's nothing there on which to base a 5.56. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now, I'm going to go in the other direction: How long until they come out with the 5.56mm version?  I don't care for the Bren, but a 5.56mm version of that would be right up my alley. There is an airsoft rifle someone put out a few years ago that was a Skorpion taken to .5.56mm dimensions. With the graphics settings on this machine (which I am not allowed to change), everything looks short and fat, so it almost looked like a 5.56mm weapon in the first place.
Found it: GHK G5. No, I don't play airsoft, and I've never handled one, but it had a good rep, by my limited understanding: http://www.socomtactical.net/images/ghk-g5-gbb-assault-riffle.jpg The Scorpion is blow back operated. There's nothing there on which to base a 5.56. Party pooper!
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:37:05 PM EDT
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Before the site went down I saw the Bren costs something like $1980
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:49:50 PM EDT
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Damn.. The faux can version looks great. Was going to do the pistol and SBR it but I think I like that handguard better.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:52:30 PM EDT
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Haters gonna hate. I dig his videos. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suddenly we have a problem with CN? Why?  Haters gonna hate. I dig his videos. Me too. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:55:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:56:42 PM EDT
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Did ARFCOM just crash the CZ website because it was working, now its not. Wouldn't be the first time, or the last 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:02:45 AM EDT
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All of them, even the pro-2A rants? Or just the gun reviews? I do agree that the gun "reviews" aren't really my style since I'm more interested in technical info rather than hearing how much it makes your balls tingle. His pro-2A NRA videos are awesome, though. He's a definite asset to the gun community. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sorry, nothing personal, but I can't stand this guy's videos. All of them, even the pro-2A rants? Or just the gun reviews? I do agree that the gun "reviews" aren't really my style since I'm more interested in technical info rather than hearing how much it makes your balls tingle. His pro-2A NRA videos are awesome, though. He's a definite asset to the gun community. I love his stuff, and believe he is an attribute to the shooting community. He breaks the typical image and that is good for all of us. And his reviews are very different, and that is good for all of us. I win the bigger the gun owning tent becomes because the larger the tent, the more protected my Second Amendment rights. This guy helps make the tent bigger. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:26:34 AM EDT
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I like that cz is doing some cool stuff instead of just releasing more of the same like a lot of companies.
I would love to see a 9mm bullpup |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:27:53 AM EDT
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I'm okay with it.
Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:33:52 AM EDT
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WANT!
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:41:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I need to buy a CZ, only problem is do I get one of their 22s or one of the 9mm pistols, so many choices |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:43:22 AM EDT
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And this makes me happy, as a CZ owner.
Now if CZ will just make an AR15. Why, you ask....because, why the fuck not. Loving that they're jumping on the M-LOK bandwagon. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:44:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm okay with it. Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:44:17 AM EDT
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I'm okay with it. Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. They are like $15 on sale from CZ normal price is around $20 for the 30 rounders. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 12:56:44 AM EDT
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They are like $15 on sale from CZ normal price is around $20 for the 30 rounders. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm okay with it. Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. They are like $15 on sale from CZ normal price is around $20 for the 30 rounders. And what the hell other mag would they use anyway? Glock mags? Ha. Nothing about this gun is compatible with any other mainstream platform. Why does everyone want everything to be AR/Glock compatible? |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:26:13 AM EDT
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looks bulky It's bulky, but I consider it carry on. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:26:59 AM EDT
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I need to buy a CZ, only problem is do I get one of their 22s or one of the 9mm pistols, so many choices ha haha hahaha I already have two and am planning numbers 3, 4 and 5. A CZ. That's hilarious. 
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:27:40 AM EDT
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Why does everyone want everything to be AR/Glock compatible? Because most of us have lots of Glocks and ARs.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:29:21 AM EDT
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And what the hell other mag would they use anyway? Glock mags? Ha. Nothing about this gun is compatible with any other mainstream platform. Why does everyone want everything to be AR/Glock compatible? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm okay with it. Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. They are like $15 on sale from CZ normal price is around $20 for the 30 rounders. And what the hell other mag would they use anyway? Glock mags? Ha. Nothing about this gun is compatible with any other mainstream platform. Why does everyone want everything to be AR/Glock compatible? Maybe he was thinking it was like the SIG at around $70 each. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:32:48 AM EDT
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It's bulky, but I consider it carry on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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looks bulky It's bulky, but I consider it carry on. Excuse me sir Your balls are showing. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:35:13 AM EDT
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I didn't realize that Dr. Ben Carson did gun videos.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:38:18 AM EDT
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that standard model carbine looks pretty cool
granted I really have no need for another PCC |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:39:34 AM EDT
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I used to like his videos but every other sentence is an analogy.
Interesting about the full carbines |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 1:59:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That dude sucks. Yah dude. Keep following Nutinfacny, or James Yeager. Colin is King. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:05:11 AM EDT
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That dude sucks. Can't please everyone I guess. I like him well enough. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:16:16 AM EDT
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That forearm and if someone would make a truly integeraly suppressed barrel and holy crap I would be in heaven! But then again I guess they would have to redesign the barrel nut and forearm retention.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:17:48 AM EDT
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So they made a 16" version for the civi market? That is cool, didn't think they'd do that. But that handgaurd is damn ugly. If I could I'd go with the SBR model no questions. But I may actually consider the carbine version since I can't get SBRs here.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:31:15 AM EDT
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Why am I thinking this would be really cool gun in .30 carbine?
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:31:30 AM EDT
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Glad to see the line expanding... I have been planning to get an evo 3 since i first heard about them, and now have more choices.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:41:14 AM EDT
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Glad to see the line expanding... I have been planning to get an evo 3 since i first heard about them, and now have more choices. I wonder how well it is selling. Hopefully the carbine is priced at $1000. Affordable mag prices plus a low cost would be a relief. Even the Galil ACE looks to be $1700+. Lots of new guns that are near $2K these days. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:49:15 AM EDT
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I'm sorry, nothing personal, but I can't stand this guy's videos. Same. His videos come off like a Lexus commercial. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 2:57:20 AM EDT
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I love CN
And that looks sweet! 16" 9mm velocity is SCREAMING |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 3:22:39 AM EDT
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I watched the whole video just because you two said he sucks. Never watched him before. Straightforward and no frills. Didn't have a lot of tech info which I would have liked but way better than someone like Nut'n. If Colion is on arf here's a suggestion for future reviews. Do some accuracy and chrono testing with different loads so a person can see what to expect. When testing a PCC compare it to some handguns in the same caliber for short range drills, mid and long accuracy (50 and 100 yard) and chrono loads through both. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That dude sucks. I watched the whole video just because you two said he sucks. Never watched him before. Straightforward and no frills. Didn't have a lot of tech info which I would have liked but way better than someone like Nut'n. If Colion is on arf here's a suggestion for future reviews. Do some accuracy and chrono testing with different loads so a person can see what to expect. When testing a PCC compare it to some handguns in the same caliber for short range drills, mid and long accuracy (50 and 100 yard) and chrono loads through both. That's not his focus. He's political, and the best spokesman the gun community has gained in a long time. He just throws in quick reviews every once in awhile. But his main area is bashing anti-gunners and their rhetoric. He started as a private YouTuber years ago, then was picked up by the NRA last year. Even with his new'ish fame and signing with the NRA, he still found the time to pass the Texas Bar exam. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 3:24:16 AM EDT
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I'm sorry, nothing personal, but I can't stand this guy's videos. You can't be serious. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 3:35:50 AM EDT
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But that handgaurd is damn ugly. I think the handguard looks great. Different tastes I guess. I'll be saving up for one of these in the next year or two. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 3:37:46 AM EDT
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I watched the whole video just because you two said he sucks. Never watched him before. Straightforward and no frills. Didn't have a lot of tech info which I would have liked but way better than someone like Nut'n. If Colion is on arf here's a suggestion for future reviews. Do some accuracy and chrono testing with different loads so a person can see what to expect. When testing a PCC compare it to some handguns in the same caliber for short range drills, mid and long accuracy (50 and 100 yard) and chrono loads through both. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That dude sucks. I watched the whole video just because you two said he sucks. Never watched him before. Straightforward and no frills. Didn't have a lot of tech info which I would have liked but way better than someone like Nut'n. If Colion is on arf here's a suggestion for future reviews. Do some accuracy and chrono testing with different loads so a person can see what to expect. When testing a PCC compare it to some handguns in the same caliber for short range drills, mid and long accuracy (50 and 100 yard) and chrono loads through both. He is on here. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 3:38:07 AM EDT
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The carbine reminds me a bit of the fabled XM8, don't ask me why, but it does.
Also, I'm a noob lurker so I can't embed
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Posted: 11/27/2015 3:46:56 AM EDT
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I think the handguard looks great. Different tastes I guess. I'll be saving up for one of these in the next year or two. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But that handgaurd is damn ugly. I think the handguard looks great. Different tastes I guess. I'll be saving up for one of these in the next year or two. I think it looks about as good as it can for what it is. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 3:58:15 AM EDT
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I think it looks about as good as it can for what it is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But that handgaurd is damn ugly. I think the handguard looks great. Different tastes I guess. I'll be saving up for one of these in the next year or two. I think it looks about as good as it can for what it is. Problem is it will look a bit goofy no matter what. A 16" PCC always looks weird. I wish SBR regulations would go away so we wouldn't even be having this discussion. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 4:02:13 AM EDT
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I'm okay with it. Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. The 30 rounders are supposed to be in the $20 price range, so they're not too expensive. I WAS considering going with a Sig MPX, but I think having the Scorpion carbine available just completely won me over. I am still curious about the barrel attachment - if it can be removed/swapped easily. I'd probably get the regular barrel carbine and if I can't swap the barrel easily, I'd just cut it when I get it SBR'd and have it threaded 1/2x28 to work with my existing can. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 4:07:08 AM EDT
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The 30 rounders are supposed to be in the $20 price range, so they're not too expensive. I WAS considering going with a Sig MPX, but I think having the Scorpion carbine available just completely won me over. I am still curious about the barrel attachment - if it can be removed/swapped easily. I'd probably get the regular barrel carbine and if I can't swap the barrel easily, I'd just cut it when I get it SBR'd and have it threaded 1/2x28 to work with my existing can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm okay with it. Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. The 30 rounders are supposed to be in the $20 price range, so they're not too expensive. I WAS considering going with a Sig MPX, but I think having the Scorpion carbine available just completely won me over. I am still curious about the barrel attachment - if it can be removed/swapped easily. I'd probably get the regular barrel carbine and if I can't swap the barrel easily, I'd just cut it when I get it SBR'd and have it threaded 1/2x28 to work with my existing can. The barrel comes out easy enough. After basic field strip it's one nut on the barrel that holds the hand guard on (which can be a bitch depending on how much loctite they used). Once the hand guard is off separate the 2 halfs of the receiver by removing a half dozen or so screws. Then the barrel comes out. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 4:19:23 AM EDT
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The barrel comes out easy enough. After basic field strip it's one nut on the barrel that holds the hand guard on (which can be a bitch depending on how much loctite they used). Once the hand guard is off separate the 2 halfs of the receiver by removing a half dozen or so screws. Then the barrel comes out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm okay with it. Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. The 30 rounders are supposed to be in the $20 price range, so they're not too expensive. I WAS considering going with a Sig MPX, but I think having the Scorpion carbine available just completely won me over. I am still curious about the barrel attachment - if it can be removed/swapped easily. I'd probably get the regular barrel carbine and if I can't swap the barrel easily, I'd just cut it when I get it SBR'd and have it threaded 1/2x28 to work with my existing can. The barrel comes out easy enough. After basic field strip it's one nut on the barrel that holds the hand guard on (which can be a bitch depending on how much loctite they used). Once the hand guard is off separate the 2 halfs of the receiver by removing a half dozen or so screws. Then the barrel comes out. That's not bad at all. Thanks for the post. I wonder if they'll eventually have the pistol barrels with the 1/2x28 threading for sale. Either way, I can always have the barrel cut and threaded. Then I can kinda 'customize' the length. I hope my can will fit under the handguard, tho. It probably will. I'm thinking if taxes don't rape me too bad next year, this may be my first gun purchase of '16. I have a P-09 right now, and I want to get a P-07 sometime, too. I love CZ stuff. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 4:39:12 AM EDT
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That's not bad at all. Thanks for the post. I wonder if they'll eventually have the pistol barrels with the 1/2x28 threading for sale. Either way, I can always have the barrel cut and threaded. Then I can kinda 'customize' the length. I hope my can will fit under the handguard, tho. It probably will. I'm thinking if taxes don't rape me too bad next year, this may be my first gun purchase of '16. I have a P-09 right now, and I want to get a P-07 sometime, too. I love CZ stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm okay with it. Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. The 30 rounders are supposed to be in the $20 price range, so they're not too expensive. I WAS considering going with a Sig MPX, but I think having the Scorpion carbine available just completely won me over. I am still curious about the barrel attachment - if it can be removed/swapped easily. I'd probably get the regular barrel carbine and if I can't swap the barrel easily, I'd just cut it when I get it SBR'd and have it threaded 1/2x28 to work with my existing can. The barrel comes out easy enough. After basic field strip it's one nut on the barrel that holds the hand guard on (which can be a bitch depending on how much loctite they used). Once the hand guard is off separate the 2 halfs of the receiver by removing a half dozen or so screws. Then the barrel comes out. That's not bad at all. Thanks for the post. I wonder if they'll eventually have the pistol barrels with the 1/2x28 threading for sale. Either way, I can always have the barrel cut and threaded. Then I can kinda 'customize' the length. I hope my can will fit under the handguard, tho. It probably will. I'm thinking if taxes don't rape me too bad next year, this may be my first gun purchase of '16. I have a P-09 right now, and I want to get a P-07 sometime, too. I love CZ stuff. That's how it is for the pistol at least. I'm not sure how the carbine hand guard is held on. I suppose it's possible they use a similar barrel nut part way down the barrel. And instead of a tool like this for a pistol  have it long enough to clear the carbine hand guard. Or maybe they are doing something entirely different.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:14:58 AM EDT
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I'm okay with it. Sucks that is has proprietary magazines. Uzi/colt mags suck, glock mags would have been nice. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:32:35 AM EDT
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Definitely like the "SD" look.
 Wonder why they had silencerco do the faux suppressor.  |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:35:45 AM EDT
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I do as well...............I think I might get that version when it's available
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Definitely like the "SD" look.
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