Hunting cartridges you dislike

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Posted: 11/25/2015 10:35:07 PM EDT

Never could get into 338 Win Mag. Never could get into 338. Lot's of recoil, for most situations doesn't outpace 30-06 or 300 win mag, for the heavier bullets 375 H&H does a far better job with pretty much the same recoil. Throw the .35 Whelen into the mix and the 338's utility becomes even less.

I know a lot of people swear by 338 win mag for Grizzly and Moose.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:36:31 PM EDT

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300 Weatherby mag

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:37:46 PM EDT

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7-30 waters. Finding ammo is a nightmare.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:38:14 PM EDT

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270, so close to 30 06 what's the point

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:38:45 PM EDT

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270.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:39:11 PM EDT

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.308.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:39:12 PM EDT

[#6]

Any WSSM.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:40:16 PM EDT

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Jack O'Conner rolls in his grave.

The cartridge has nostalgia, it's like owning a classic car.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:42:23 PM EDT

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270, so close to 30 06 what's the point

Jack O'Conner rolls in his grave.

The cartridge has nostalgia, it's like owning a classic car.

Like an Edsel?

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:44:07 PM EDT

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the .257 Roberts in a mismatched short action
needs a 57mm or 64mm action to be loaded properly.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:45:11 PM EDT

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.243, .270, and any short mag. Wtf is the point.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:46:06 PM EDT

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270, so close to 30 06 what's the point

Jack O'Conner rolls in his grave.

The cartridge has nostalgia, it's like owning a classic car.

Like an Edsel?

Edsels are sort of cool.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:48:33 PM EDT

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.243, .270, and any short mag. Wtf is the point.

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I've always liked 243 with a 95 grain bullet. In it's day it was a great western plains deer/speed goat/coyote cartridge all rolled into one.

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:48:48 PM EDT

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270, so close to 30 06 what's the point

Jack O'Conner rolls in his grave.

The cartridge has nostalgia, it's like owning a classic car.

Like an Edsel?

Edsels are sort of cool.

See, he gets it

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:53:00 PM EDT

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Plus the recoil is worse

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:53:30 PM EDT

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Anything bigger than a 308

Posted: 11/25/2015 10:58:59 PM EDT

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270, so close to 30 06 what's the point

Plus the recoil is worse

I actually prefer the recoil of a 270 over an 06

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:04:09 PM EDT

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270

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:04:49 PM EDT

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7mm08. Pointless. If you want a higher bc bullet, shoot a 260. Otherwise a 308 is what you want.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:08:27 PM EDT

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pretty much all of my buddies hunt with a .270 here in Texas and swear its the best. I opted to go with a 25-06 just to spite them and am very happy.

.270 is a nice caliber and works quite well, but for me it came down to the two -06's and I went with the 25 b/c it fit me better. I will be getting a 300 win mag if I ever need to kill anything bigger.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:08:51 PM EDT

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What's 260 recoil like compared to 7mm-08?

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:09:01 PM EDT

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7mm08. Pointless. If you want a higher bc bullet, shoot a 260. Otherwise a 308 is what you want.

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+1

And the recoil argument/reason always presented is retarded as well . 140gr 7mm-08 recoils every bit the same as a 150gr 308 and a 140gr 260

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:11:31 PM EDT

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Any Weatherby cartridge.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:11:41 PM EDT

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.405 Winchester

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:11:57 PM EDT

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Any WSM and ANYTHING with the name "Weatherby" behind it.

Also, .264 win mag, 7mm STW, 220 swift,

I also think the belts on all the belted calibers are stupid. They were a marketing gimick back in the day and are NOT necessary.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:15:32 PM EDT

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284 Winchester....what drugs were used to come up with this cartridge...

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:15:45 PM EDT

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Plus the recoil is worse

I actually prefer the recoil of a 270 over an 06

Been several years since I've shot one, and no sir I never owned one. I know guys who have one who complain about recoil.

Since this is GD, no I'm not a pansy. I have a .458 win mag I shoot for fun at the range

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:16:02 PM EDT

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7mm08. Pointless. If you want a higher bc bullet, shoot a 260. Otherwise a 308 is what you want.

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Except 7-08 has been around a lot longer, and has better factory loadings. I like the .260, but what you just said was a little misguided.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:18:42 PM EDT

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Except you have a really hard time loading an inaccurate round in a .270. For some reason it's just very forgiving/accurate.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:20:14 PM EDT

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.30-30. If its a lever gun, I'll take a .44 Mag or .450 Marlin. Otherwise I'll go with a full power cartridge. If its for youth, just load it light.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:21:08 PM EDT

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Frankly I like them all, even the oddball calibers you have problems finding ammo for, but guess I'm crazy like that.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:23:19 PM EDT

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This.

I have ones I like best, but dislike? Eh I'd take one of each really

This is probably why I have about 6 hunting rifles and want to take everything from a coyote to an elk with each one of them

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:23:38 PM EDT

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.243, .270, and any short mag. Wtf is the point.

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I've always liked 243 with a 95 grain bullet. In it's day it was a great western plains deer/speed goat/coyote cartridge all rolled into one.

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This thread reminds me of age old argument for what is best round for whitetail hunting. I know a lot of people who shot their first deer with a .243. I shot my first whitetail with a Remington 700 .25-06. In my opinion, a .243 is a good round for first time young hunters and experienced hunters. Are there smaller calipers that will work? Of course, my dad is 71yo and shot the majority of his white tails with a .222 round. With all that said, I don't feel like .243 falls in category of rounds someone should hate. YMMV, I've been wrong before

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:24:58 PM EDT

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7mm mag. Every goober around here comes equipped with one that he shoots infrequently and poorly when he does. I'm sure out west where the shots are longer someone who was dedicated to the craft of shooting could make use of one. I've killed more deer with .35 Remington and 30-06 than anything else.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:27:22 PM EDT

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8mm stuff.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:28:44 PM EDT

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.243
.270

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:49:28 PM EDT

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.270 and 7mm Rem Mag are what you find in the woods here.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:51:11 PM EDT

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25-20

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:52:17 PM EDT

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Any short mag.

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:55:15 PM EDT

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.30wcf

Posted: 11/25/2015 11:59:51 PM EDT

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James Jordan would disagree.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Jordan_Buck

But yeah it is a pretty anemic round.

( forgot to quote 161ifantrys post above about the 25-20)

Posted: 11/26/2015 EDT

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This.

Posted: 11/26/2015 12:00:58 AM EDT

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.280 Rem.

Why does it even exist? I know that people who own them swear by them but talk about a 'tweener cartridge.

And I agree about belted magnum cases.

Posted: 11/26/2015 12:02:45 AM EDT

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I like them all. Dont hate on any. All that being said......i have very standard calibers in my collection.

Posted: 11/26/2015 12:05:36 AM EDT

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25.06. I was told at an early age that it was a "blood shooter" and was not worthy.

I'm sure it's a fine caliber/cartridge but I have never owned a .25 cal. and probably never will. I think I own about every other common caliber from .22 to .375.

Posted: 11/26/2015 12:07:42 AM EDT

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Like an Edsel?

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270, so close to 30 06 what's the point

Jack O'Conner rolls in his grave.

The cartridge has nostalgia, it's like owning a classic car.

Like an Edsel?

Edsel's were cool....people were dumb.

In 1959, Edsel sales nose-dived. Here's why: First, the distinctive styling was made blander. Second, the car was now offered with an economy six-cylinder engine as an option - hardly the way to bolster the car's performance image. The model line-up was substantially reduced. So were the number of dealers. The innovative push-button transmission controls were gone, replaced with the conventional column lever used in Fords. No wonder the car bombed.

All of these changes were made at the behest of Ford Group Vice-President, Robert McNamara, later U.S. Secretary of Defense during the Kennedy and Johnson Administrations. McNamara didn't like the Edsel. It looked too flashy, he thought, and it offended his sense of what an automobile should be - a no-nonsense, practical car. McNamara was a big fan of the bland and compact Ford Falcon, introduced about the same time the Edsel died.

At an August 28, 1957 press preview dinner, before the Edsel had even been introduced to the public, McNamara told an associate, "I've got plans for phasing it out." One automotive historian wrote that the Edsel would have survived if McNamara hadn't "axed it to bolster his ego."

In January 1958 (only four months after introduction), McNamara disbanded the independent Edsel Division, folding it into the Lincoln-Mercury Division. Edsel dealers were soon told to get other franchises to represent, killing dealer enthusiasm and support. In November of 1959, a few weeks after the introduction of the 1960 Edsel, production ended for good.

So .... while the Edsel was a mere infant, McNamara stabbed it in the back - multiple times. No wonder the brand didn't survive.

Edsel engines were assembled in Cleveland, OH, Dearborn, MI and Wayne, MI.

E-400 V8

Standard for Ranger, Pacer, Villager, Bermuda, Roundup

361 cid (5.911 litre)
303 hp @4600 rpm
400 ft-lb Torque @2900 rpm
Holly 4 bbl

Posted: 11/26/2015 12:08:29 AM EDT

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Never could get into 338 Win Mag. Never could get into 338. Lot's of recoil, for most situations doesn't outpace 30-06 or 300 win mag, for the heavier bullets 375 H&H does a far better job with pretty much the same recoil. Throw the .35 Whelen into the mix and the 338's utility becomes even less.

I know a lot of people swear by 338 win mag for Grizzly and Moose.

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Interesting, I find my .338 is my favorite bolt action gun. It's an accurate round, has a good selection of bullet weights. With a muzzle brake recoils like a .270

Different strokes and all that..

Posted: 11/26/2015 12:10:03 AM EDT

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The Ultra Mags......

Posted: 11/26/2015 12:10:38 AM EDT

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Any cartridge that requires a recoil disclaimer. You're supposed to be shooting something once, if you shoulders can't handle it then have fun packing it out.