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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:52:17 PM EDT
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I don't recall seeing a single PSA barrel being used in the MOA challenge. They're welcome to try though. This. thinking a rack grade PSA barrel is capable of competing with a stealth is retarded. But then, so are a lot of jaded haters here. Some people CAN outshoot their barrel and quality costs money. That's why you dont see any $99 Krieger barrels, but nobody picks on them much, because it isn't trendy to hate them. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:02:15 AM EDT
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My PSA with the premeium barrel will hold right at 1 MOA with handloads. I believe I could do better with a new trigger. The PSA trigger looks like they cut the sear with a rock and finsihed it with a hatchet. I have worked on it and got it down to six pound pull. I am saving up for a Larue MBT. I will then enter it in the MOA Challenge to try my luck. IMy PSA has done everything I have asked of it. Shoot eight inch steel plates out to 500 not long ago with it. Missed a few at 400 and 500, but I think the 12 mph gusting wing had some play in that.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:15:13 AM EDT
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I had a Noveske/LaRue once, I traded it in for a PSA as it shot way way better. Had to pay for that new car? |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:16:44 AM EDT
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I have PSA 20" CHF upper that will shoot 1 moa occasionally, with handloads, if I do my part.
Although my 16" Stag 1/9 will do almost the same with that load. I have no doubt that a Stealth upper would do it better and easier. I aspire to own a LaRue rifle one day. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:17:11 AM EDT
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I had a Noveske/LaRue once, I traded it in for a PSA as it shot way way better. Had to pay for that new car? Bro, I didn't even feel that new car payment. Don't get mad that PSA's outshoot your overpriced rifle. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:19:33 AM EDT
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My 16" premium PSA upper has shot 1 MOA with wolf gold ammo.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:20:28 AM EDT
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I don't recall seeing a single PSA barrel being used in the MOA challenge. They're welcome to try though. I did but it was irons at 50 and it was something like 3-4 MOA 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:22:56 AM EDT
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Bro, I didn't even feel that new car payment. Don't get mad that PSA's outshoot your overpriced rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had a Noveske/LaRue once, I traded it in for a PSA as it shot way way better. Had to pay for that new car? Bro, I didn't even feel that new car payment. Don't get mad that PSA's outshoot your overpriced rifle. Keep pumpin that ego pump. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:25:09 AM EDT
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Sometimes quality control and fit and finish is worth it, sometimes it's not. Depends on what your requirements are.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:26:27 AM EDT
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Shooting offhand at 100 yards or more? I doubt most posters here (including myself) could tell any difference. Off a bench, my money would be on the Nov or LR.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:28:05 AM EDT
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Have a Noveske and a LaRue. Fully realize that the guns outshoot the operator. If someone can outshoot me with that equipment, good for them.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:28:41 AM EDT
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I don't recall seeing a single PSA barrel being used in the MOA challenge. They're welcome to try though. PSA uses FN barrels. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:32:08 AM EDT
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How drunk is OP?
-Montana drunk -Alaska drunk -Last day of leave in Angeles City drunk -Spend more than 5k on a Corvette drunk -Russian sea captain drunk -Russian general drunk |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:32:31 AM EDT
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How drunk is OP? -Montana drunk -Alaska drunk -Last day of leave in Angeles City drunk -Spend more than 5k on a Corvette drunk -Russian sea captain drunk -Russian general drunk 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:32:56 AM EDT
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I have a stealth upper and a PSA upper with the FN barrel. Both are pushing sub moa if I do my part. That sounds more like reality. 9 out of 10 times I hear someone talk about how much "this" brand is so much better than "that" brand when talking about same or similar guns it is usually a skill or application issue. "My strayer voight can strangle people with its mind! My Springfield cant hit the side of a barn.!" |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:35:58 AM EDT
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I was wrong. Sub MOA accuracy actually.
PSA premium CHF 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:38:45 AM EDT
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I was wrong. Sub MOA accuracy actually. PSA premium CHF http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b520/westernhaikus1/AB9F62D4-3F6B-4F3D-8E15-592D8BC20887_zps8qroqqgk.jpg 3 rds don't mean anything 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:40:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 3 rds don't mean anything Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was wrong. Sub MOA accuracy actually. PSA premium CHF http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b520/westernhaikus1/AB9F62D4-3F6B-4F3D-8E15-592D8BC20887_zps8qroqqgk.jpg 3 rds don't mean anything Actually, it does mean something, just not the same thing as 5000 rounds.  |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:40:17 AM EDT
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Are you 'alaska state troopers' drunk right now? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had a Noveske/LaRue once, I traded it in for a PSA as it shot way way better. Are you 'alaska state troopers' drunk right now? That made me laugh. 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:40:29 AM EDT
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I was wrong. Sub MOA accuracy actually. PSA premium CHF http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b520/westernhaikus1/AB9F62D4-3F6B-4F3D-8E15-592D8BC20887_zps8qroqqgk.jpg 3 rds don't mean anything Haha I knew everyone would say that. Fair criticism but blame me and not the barrel. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:43:23 AM EDT
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Larue rifles come with test targets. PSA does not.
One is consistently better than the other; whether that is worth the cost is up to you. I |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:44:10 AM EDT
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Larue rifles come with test targets. PSA does not. One is consistently better than the other; whether that is worth the cost is up to you. I I would not argue that at all. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:45:41 AM EDT
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I have a dozen or so rifles, and I can say my noveske is more accurate than my seekins, Sigs, AAC, m&p, BCM etc.... They are all on a level playing field as they all sport a geissele trigger.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:48:49 AM EDT
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I have a dozen or so rifles, and I can say my noveske is more accurate than my seekins, Sigs, AAC, m&p, BCM etc.... They are all on a level playing field as they all sport a geissele trigger. So..... you don't have a PSA... Get yourself a PSA and get back to us later.. with an apology. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:49:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would not argue that at all. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Larue rifles come with test targets. PSA does not. One is consistently better than the other; whether that is worth the cost is up to you. I I would not argue that at all. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:51:47 AM EDT
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Bought my wife and son a full kit and put em together.
I have a BCM upper, Bushy lower. The PSA shot damn good. Not quite as good as my BCM but good. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:54:15 AM EDT
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How drunk is OP? -Montana drunk -Alaska drunk -Last day of leave in Angeles City drunk -Spend more than 5k on a Corvette drunk -Russian sea captain drunk -Russian general drunk All the above drunk.
I'm not sure how this became a thread. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:57:23 AM EDT
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My ex had a Larue. Sweet rifle, but no better at 100 than my dpms panther, accuracy wise. Would it be better at distance? Maybe. If I wasn't paying, guess which one I'd chose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Larue rifles come with test targets. PSA does not. One is consistently better than the other; whether that is worth the cost is up to you. I I would not argue that at all. Your ex was a helluva women . Maybe you shoulda bought a... Larue
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:03:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 3 rds don't mean anything Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was wrong. Sub MOA accuracy actually. PSA premium CHF http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b520/westernhaikus1/AB9F62D4-3F6B-4F3D-8E15-592D8BC20887_zps8qroqqgk.jpg 3 rds don't mean anything  |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:05:49 AM EDT
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So..... you don't have a PSA... Get yourself a PSA and get back to us later.. with an apology. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a dozen or so rifles, and I can say my noveske is more accurate than my seekins, Sigs, AAC, m&p, BCM etc.... They are all on a level playing field as they all sport a geissele trigger. So..... you don't have a PSA... Get yourself a PSA and get back to us later.. with an apology. Had a spikes, radical, and dsg, and shot with my friend with another radical and psa. Noveske still out shot the group! Easily landing hits free hand at 200 yards (8 inch target) oh btw, my noveske is only 10.5 inches |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:07:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your ex was a helluva women . Maybe you shoulda bought a... LarueQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Larue rifles come with test targets. PSA does not. One is consistently better than the other; whether that is worth the cost is up to you. I I would not argue that at all. Your ex was a helluva women . Maybe you shoulda bought a... Larue |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:09:18 AM EDT
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Too rich for my blood. And she won it when I dragged her to the first Larue Range Day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Larue rifles come with test targets. PSA does not. One is consistently better than the other; whether that is worth the cost is up to you. I I would not argue that at all. Your ex was a helluva women . Maybe you shoulda bought a... LarueThe cut of your jib, don't lose it. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:13:48 AM EDT
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For some people... paying an extra $500 - $1000 for a fancy roll stamp to make them feel better is sometimes worth the extra cost. MOA All Day is just a few clicks away if you'd like to prove that theory... |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:14:07 AM EDT
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For some people... paying an extra $500 - $1000 for a fancy roll stamp to make them feel better is sometimes worth the extra cost. MOA All Day is just a few clicks away if you'd like to prove that theory... |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:14:49 AM EDT
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So..... you don't have a PSA... Get yourself a PSA and get back to us later.. with an apology. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a dozen or so rifles, and I can say my noveske is more accurate than my seekins, Sigs, AAC, m&p, BCM etc.... They are all on a level playing field as they all sport a geissele trigger. So..... you don't have a PSA... Get yourself a PSA and get back to us later.. with an apology. There is a reason you don't post your childish troll shit in the tech forums. Stick to GD. It's where you belong.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:18:53 AM EDT
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In before the fanboys. Too late... The OP beat you to it... |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:23:12 AM EDT
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Too late... The OP beat you to it... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before the fanboys. Too late... The OP beat you to it... Yeah, I'm a PSA fanboy 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:27:28 AM EDT
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For some people... paying an extra $500 - $1000 for a fancy roll stamp to make them feel better is sometimes worth the extra cost. Show us on the doll where LarueTactic touched you.... Right in Tha Feels... I should have known |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:31:38 AM EDT
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MOA All Day is just a few clicks away if you'd like to prove that theory... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For some people... paying an extra $500 - $1000 for a fancy roll stamp to make them feel better is sometimes worth the extra cost. MOA All Day is just a few clicks away if you'd like to prove that theory... Some posters are all mouth (not you cms81586) |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:33:58 AM EDT
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My larues will group better with wolf steel case than my psa's with fgmm. Don't have any noveske, so I can't say there. Wow, your PSA guns must be PTAC. My 16" and 12" PSA CHF uppers shoot 1 to 1.5 MOA with 69g FGMM..... or your Larue is Sub MOA with Wolf ammo |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:35:14 AM EDT
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Fuck if I know but I have a LaRue barrel and you don't.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:35:56 AM EDT
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Fuck if I know but I have a LaRue barrel and you don't. WINNER!
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:38:47 AM EDT
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The PSA barrels I have are all CHF FN barrels, they mil spec just that So it would be silly to expect better than mil spec accuracy that being said I can keep up with BCM and Colts all day long I don't think you really know as much as you think you do. lol No offense but thinking mil spec is top of the line is a beginners assumption. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:44:24 AM EDT
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For some people... paying an extra $500 - $1000 for a fancy roll stamp to make them feel better is sometimes worth the extra cost. Paying for high quality stuff helps to eliminate yet another variable, and anyone with more mind than money isn't buying it for the roll mark. With cheaper stuff you get some good and some bad. With LaRue, it's mostly great. I own both and shoot both. I just can't stop buying PSA uppers w/ those ridiculous deals 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:50:53 AM EDT
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Paying for high quality stuff helps to eliminate yet another variable, and anyone with more mind than money isn't buying it for the roll mark. With cheaper stuff you get some good and some bad. With LaRue, it's mostly great. I own both and shoot both. I just can't stop buying PSA uppers w/ those ridiculous deals Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For some people... paying an extra $500 - $1000 for a fancy roll stamp to make them feel better is sometimes worth the extra cost. Paying for high quality stuff helps to eliminate yet another variable, and anyone with more mind than money isn't buying it for the roll mark. With cheaper stuff you get some good and some bad. With LaRue, it's mostly great. I own both and shoot both. I just can't stop buying PSA uppers w/ those ridiculous deals Ahh yes, my thread has been substantiated and condoned. KNEEL HEATHENS... |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:53:26 AM EDT
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Paying for high quality stuff helps to eliminate yet another variable, and anyone with more mind than money isn't buying it for the roll mark. With cheaper stuff you get some good and some bad. With LaRue, it's mostly great. I own both and shoot both. I just can't stop buying PSA uppers w/ those ridiculous deals Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For some people... paying an extra $500 - $1000 for a fancy roll stamp to make them feel better is sometimes worth the extra cost. Paying for high quality stuff helps to eliminate yet another variable, and anyone with more mind than money isn't buying it for the roll mark. With cheaper stuff you get some good and some bad. With LaRue, it's mostly great. I own both and shoot both. I just can't stop buying PSA uppers w/ those ridiculous deals They both have a role. PSA is like the fat chick you occasionally see; she gets the job done, but no big loss if you never see her again. LaRue is the girl way above your league who never disappoints exceeds everywhere and would crush your world if she left you. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:54:44 AM EDT
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In. OP be trolling and the bait has been taken hook, line, sinker, the pole, and the whole damn boat.
Noveske fan boy checking in. I've never regretted, even for a second, dropping $365 on a nice barrel. Yes, it is better than yours OP. Suck it up and quit being a little bitch about it FFS  I'm used to seeing shit like this on the FB gun pages with slapdicks whining about why their DPMS isn't just as good as a high end rig. At the end of the day, the difference is subtle but it is there. It's like driving a camry vs a hand built supercar. Both get you from point a to point b but one does so a helluva lot better
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:56:18 AM EDT
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They both have a role. PSA is like the fat chick you occasionally see; she gets the job done, but no big loss if you never see her again. LaRue is the girl way above your league who never disappoints exceeds everywhere and would crush your world if she left you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For some people... paying an extra $500 - $1000 for a fancy roll stamp to make them feel better is sometimes worth the extra cost. Paying for high quality stuff helps to eliminate yet another variable, and anyone with more mind than money isn't buying it for the roll mark. With cheaper stuff you get some good and some bad. With LaRue, it's mostly great. I own both and shoot both. I just can't stop buying PSA uppers w/ those ridiculous deals They both have a role. PSA is like the fat chick you occasionally see; she gets the job done, but no big loss if you never see her again. LaRue is the girl way above your league who never disappoints exceeds everywhere and would crush your world if she left you. The LaRue chick is more like that kinda chubby women you had sex with when you were really drunk and realized the next morning she was mediocre and more of a stiff wet fish after you woke up, you kinda miss your old GF after hanging with her
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:06:10 AM EDT
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In. OP be trolling and the bait has been taken hook, line, sinker, the pole, and the whole damn boat. Noveske fan boy checking in. I've never regretted, even for a second, dropping $365 on a nice barrel. Yes, it is better than yours OP. Suck it up and quit being a little bitch about it FFS I'm used to seeing shit like this on the FB gun pages with slapdicks whining about why their DPMS isn't just as good as a high end rig. At the end of the day, the difference is subtle but it is there. It's like driving a camry vs a hand built supercar. Both get you from point a to point b but one does so a helluva lot betteryeah it's ok bro, how did you put it.... "that subtle difference you can barely tell that's there"... sorry to break it to you but that subtle difference you are experiencing is in your head, the rest of us refer to it as buyers/remorse/slightly wishful thinking. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:11:19 AM EDT
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My 11.5" noveske has been an incredible barrel. The top group is three shots at 100 meters and the bottom shot is 6 at 100 meters. The other target is 30 rounds fired quickly. Between all my barrels to include DD and FN the only ones that shoot this well are my noveske and my micro moa.
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