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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:51:09 AM EDT
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Krebs never came out with the 6.5 he was promising. Seemed like the market on platforms died waiting for the cheap ammo.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:00:21 AM EDT
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A game-changer, in my view.
If I were in the market for a harder-hitting AR (6.8 SPC, 6.5G, .308, etc) I would order a case of this ammo and consider the decision made. 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:02:45 AM EDT
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AIM Surplus just sent out a email special. 20rds of 100gr 6.5 Grendel for $5.99, which comes out to a little under 30 cents per round before shipping. That puts it within striking distance of 5.45, 223 and 7.62x39. There's a very real possibility we could see it down to 25 cents or so. I am curious if we'll see many more people gain interest in it at that price, I know at 30c per round it is certainly starting to get my attention. 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:03:23 AM EDT
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I'm doing my best to resist buying a bunch. Great price, but I wish they hadn't used Berdan primers so I could reload the steel cases.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:05:58 AM EDT
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WHERE'S THE CHEAP 300BLK?
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:06:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:07:37 AM EDT
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I ordered brass cased PPU 120gr HPBT for $9.99/box from PSA a while back. From the Lilja barrels I have shot it through, it groups amazingly well. First group was in the .3's from an 18" Lilja.
That's what I pay for my DM Course 5.56 match loads from PPU that I stack for the back up rifles. The reasons for me to shoot .223 at intermediate distance have pretty much ended. I still use it for close range CQM courses, but it isn't even fun next to 6.5 Grendel on steel at distance. When people look over and see a little AR15 banging steel like the Grendel does, they always ask if I'm shooting the 200yd target. Nope, that's 600yds. Eyes scrunch up quizzically, confused. Then I show them the little cartridge and they get even more confused. Put them behind the gun, shoot steel, no more confusion, just smiles and "Where can I get one?" |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:14:51 AM EDT
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Torn here.
On one hand a 6.5G with a legit barrel is a hell of a little gun At the same time, shooting cheap ass steel out of a premo barrel is a nogo IMO. So I would either be relegated to quality brass ammo/reloading or just have a cheap gun I don't mind thrashing the barrel on. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:35:47 AM EDT
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:49:32 AM EDT
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Just build all three. What I've done
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:53:07 AM EDT
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one. I know right? The marketing departments of major manufacturers suck! |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:58:55 AM EDT
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Another reason I need to pick up a 6.5 barrel.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:06:56 AM EDT
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I've been really lusting after a Grendel build for a while...I got a few things I need first, but it's on the list.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:19:08 AM EDT
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one. The 6.5 Grendel is here to stay. It's way outperforms 556 and steel cased ammo is only slightly more expensive. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:35:32 AM EDT
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I bought 1k @ $0.37 a round shipped, and if it continues to drop I'll spring for another case. It's not particularly accurate, 2.5-3 MOA on a good day, but it goes off bang every time and doesn't seem to be too dirty. For the 6.8 guys, watch for the S&B 110gr FMJ loads, it can be had for fitty cent a round, and it's reloadable. It's also quite accurate in my 20" ARP barrel. The Blackout...dunno. It just don't thrill me. I think I'd rather build an upper in 7.62x39 to take advantage of the cheap ammo and do my subsonic shooting with my 45-70 and cat sneeze loads. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:40:51 AM EDT
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one. I see .300 Blackout and 6.5 Grendel making it, and 6.8 not really going anywhere. .300blk has good potential on the marketplace because it has a cool name and Americans have a weird preoccupation with .30 caliber rifles. A lot of people are talking about it, I know several people that own them, and product lines are growing. 6.5 Grendel has a good potential on the marketplace as a result of its long range performance. A few people are talking about it, and the offerings are slowly getting better. 6.8? I know one dude with a 6.8. He is very well off financially, and he is the sort of guy that also owns a .458 SOCOM and a .500 Beowulf. I don't think it's a bad cartridge, but I just don't see it gaining much more ground on the market. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:41:16 AM EDT
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The 6.5 Grendel is here to stay. It's way outperforms 556 and steel cased ammo is only slightly more expensive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one. The 6.5 Grendel is here to stay. It's way outperforms 556 and steel cased ammo is only slightly more expensive. Next AR I buy will probably be 6.5G. The logistics of adding another caliber to the handloading bench are the only thing that's held that up. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:48:21 AM EDT
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Next AR I buy will probably be 6.5G. The logistics of adding another caliber to the handloading bench are the only thing that's held that up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one. The 6.5 Grendel is here to stay. It's way outperforms 556 and steel cased ammo is only slightly more expensive. Next AR I buy will probably be 6.5G. The logistics of adding another caliber to the handloading bench are the only thing that's held that up. The Grendel is worth it. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 2:49:11 AM EDT
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In for 25 boxes... damn good deal!!! Thank you!!
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Posted: 11/26/2015 3:12:57 AM EDT
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Posted: 11/26/2015 3:28:11 AM EDT
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I see .300 Blackout and 6.5 Grendel making it, and 6.8 not really going anywhere. .300blk has good potential on the marketplace because it has a cool name and Americans have a weird preoccupation with .30 caliber rifles. A lot of people are talking about it, I know several people that own them, and product lines are growing. 6.5 Grendel has a good potential on the marketplace as a result of its long range performance. A few people are talking about it, and the offerings are slowly getting better. 6.8? I know one dude with a 6.8. He is very well off financially, and he is the sort of guy that also owns a .458 SOCOM and a .500 Beowulf. I don't think it's a bad cartridge, but I just don't see it gaining much more ground on the market. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one. I see .300 Blackout and 6.5 Grendel making it, and 6.8 not really going anywhere. .300blk has good potential on the marketplace because it has a cool name and Americans have a weird preoccupation with .30 caliber rifles. A lot of people are talking about it, I know several people that own them, and product lines are growing. 6.5 Grendel has a good potential on the marketplace as a result of its long range performance. A few people are talking about it, and the offerings are slowly getting better. 6.8? I know one dude with a 6.8. He is very well off financially, and he is the sort of guy that also owns a .458 SOCOM and a .500 Beowulf. I don't think it's a bad cartridge, but I just don't see it gaining much more ground on the market. .300 is EVERYWHERE. You can buy the shit at walmart, and almost every major company is making a .300 rifle. It's not going anywhere, regardless of how much the cool kids brigade insists it's "just a fad." I hope 6.5G makes it. Seems like it's growing, and I personally think it's the best caliber that can be stuffed into a standard sized AR15. 6.5mm is a great diameter to use, and offers some very interesting potential. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 3:37:38 AM EDT
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I'd really like to build an SPR type rifle around the 6.5G. Who are some good manufacturers for 6.5G stuff?
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Posted: 11/26/2015 3:40:01 AM EDT
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Krebs never came out with the 6.5 he was promising. Seemed like the market on platforms died waiting for the cheap ammo. Krebs is a tiny custom maker............meh On the other hand Molot is now producing Vepr rifles in 6.5mm Grendel and they are being imported by Wolf. Definitive Arms might be doing a run of Veprs with their mag well conversion...... 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 4:02:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2015 4:11:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2015 4:14:58 AM EDT
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<a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/300%20Blk/P3310569_zps77fbcf4a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/300%20Blk/P3310569_zps77fbcf4a.jpg</a> Home cast bullets from free lead. About 10 cents a round. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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WHERE'S THE CHEAP 300BLK? This... <a href="http://s250.photobucket.com/user/dryflash3/media/300%20Blk/P3310569_zps77fbcf4a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg272/dryflash3/300%20Blk/P3310569_zps77fbcf4a.jpg</a> Home cast bullets from free lead. About 10 cents a round. That's awesome. When can we start hanging out? |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 4:18:08 AM EDT
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Cheap 6.5 and 6.8 is good.
I've been getting my 6.8 20 for 18.99 at Wal Mart. Not as good, but decent. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 9:35:03 AM EDT
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Thanks OP...
Just crossed someone off my shopping list.. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 9:42:55 AM EDT
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Wolf ... in a grendel?
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Posted: 11/26/2015 9:56:25 AM EDT
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Wolf ... in a grendel? ew. Lol. They are pretty much made for each other. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 10:08:18 AM EDT
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WHERE'S THE CHEAP 300BLK? Lol Guess it's time to dust off the old Grendel barrel and build that 14.5 baby precision AR I've been thinking about |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 10:11:12 AM EDT
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I see .300 Blackout and 6.5 Grendel making it, and 6.8 not really going anywhere. .300blk has good potential on the marketplace because it has a cool name and Americans have a weird preoccupation with .30 caliber rifles. A lot of people are talking about it, I know several people that own them, and product lines are growing. 6.5 Grendel has a good potential on the marketplace as a result of its long range performance. A few people are talking about it, and the offerings are slowly getting better. 6.8? I know one dude with a 6.8. He is very well off financially, and he is the sort of guy that also owns a .458 SOCOM and a .500 Beowulf. I don't think it's a bad cartridge, but I just don't see it gaining much more ground on the market. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one. I see .300 Blackout and 6.5 Grendel making it, and 6.8 not really going anywhere. .300blk has good potential on the marketplace because it has a cool name and Americans have a weird preoccupation with .30 caliber rifles. A lot of people are talking about it, I know several people that own them, and product lines are growing. 6.5 Grendel has a good potential on the marketplace as a result of its long range performance. A few people are talking about it, and the offerings are slowly getting better. 6.8? I know one dude with a 6.8. He is very well off financially, and he is the sort of guy that also owns a .458 SOCOM and a .500 Beowulf. I don't think it's a bad cartridge, but I just don't see it gaining much more ground on the market. Naw, man. I don't have a 50Beowulf. I'm sure 6.5 will be the one that 'wins' since it's the one I don't have. Overall, 6.8 is my best performing rifle. It's literally a joy to shoot. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 10:24:33 AM EDT
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FYI, PSA was selling Hornady 120g 6.5 100 count bullets for $19 or so BF deal. That is $10 less than what I paid at the last local gun show.
I could only go for 6 boxes. Now to find 6.5G brass on sale. 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:25:30 AM EDT
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FYI, PSA was selling Hornady 120g 6.5 100 count bullets for $19 or so BF deal. That is $10 less than what I paid at the last local gun show.
I could only go for 6 boxes. Now to find 6.5G brass on sale. Link? I don't see it on their site. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:29:24 AM EDT
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I know right? The marketing departments of major manufacturers suck! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one. I know right? The marketing departments of major manufacturers suck! Russian military has actually been testing it as a possible replacement for 5.45x39, part of this has been a few different plants tooling up to run small batches of it. Wolf has plenty of a market to sell it to, so for the time being it's quite useful. You could always cut a primer pocket out on it and reload it. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:35:25 AM EDT
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Cheap 6.5 and 6.8 is good. I've been getting my 6.8 20 for 18.99 at Wal Mart. Not as good, but decent. I wasn't throughly committed to 6.8 I would own a 6.5 dont want to own both at this point. If I add another caliber it would probably be Creedmore Really have no more interest in blasting anyway....sign of old age for sure.... 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:40:08 AM EDT
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I asked a PSA sales guy about 6.5 G. He claimed it was a dead caliber and they have no plans to build 6.5 G uppers.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:43:53 AM EDT
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WHERE'S THE CHEAP 300BLK? This. 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:47:11 AM EDT
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Excellent news. A Grendel build has always been on my radar after shooting a friends and loving it.
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:49:23 AM EDT
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Woot! Love my Grendel. Did this last Thursday.
 Shot the big one on a perfect broadside. Half of the heart was completely missing. The other one was between the shoulders and out through the neck. Didn't lose any meat despite that shot. Used Hornady SST's worked great. I have a lot of guns but I do believe this AR is now pulling duty every Deer season |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:53:51 AM EDT
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I don't use my Grendels for plinking, or for carbine drills. Ammo cost isn't a big concern.
I'm happy paying more for high-quality ammo that I can rely on to be highly accurate and precise, getting the most out the inherent potential of the cartridge and the platform.. I just don't shoot enough of it to be worried about the cost. But that's just me. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:54:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Woot! Love my Grendel. Did this last Thursday. http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg538/joecoastie99/IMG_20151119_174737_zpsivvvw7pt.jpg Shot the big one on a perfect broadside. Half of the heart was completely missing. The other one was between the shoulders and out through the neck. Didn't lose any meat despite that shot. Used Hornady SST's worked great. I have a lot of guns but I do believe this AR is now pulling duty every Deer season I love the SST 123gr. It's stupid accurate in both of my Grendels. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:57:21 AM EDT
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I asked a PSA sales guy about 6.5 G. He claimed it was a dead caliber and they have no plans to build 6.5 G uppers. I hope not. It is on my build list. After I am done with my 300blk pistol, I want a 6.5G. Wolf Gold 6.5G is said to be good stuff and in stock every site I checked. Not cheap, but affordable and its been around a while. 
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Posted: 11/26/2015 11:58:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 123gr or 129gr ? I love the SST 123gr. It's stupid accurate in both of my Grendels. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Woot! Love my Grendel. Did this last Thursday. http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg538/joecoastie99/IMG_20151119_174737_zpsivvvw7pt.jpg Shot the big one on a perfect broadside. Half of the heart was completely missing. The other one was between the shoulders and out through the neck. Didn't lose any meat despite that shot. Used Hornady SST's worked great. I have a lot of guns but I do believe this AR is now pulling duty every Deer season I love the SST 123gr. It's stupid accurate in both of my Grendels. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:03:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope not. It is on my build list. After I am done with my 300blk pistol, I want a 6.5G. Wolf Gold 6.5G is said to be good stuff and in stock every site I checked. Not cheap, but affordable and its been around a while. http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/156/156454.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I asked a PSA sales guy about 6.5 G. He claimed it was a dead caliber and they have no plans to build 6.5 G uppers. I hope not. It is on my build list. After I am done with my 300blk pistol, I want a 6.5G. Wolf Gold 6.5G is said to be good stuff and in stock every site I checked. Not cheap, but affordable and its been around a while. http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/156/156454.jpg The Wolf Gold MPT had mediocre accuracy out of my 20" Sabre upper. YMMV. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 123gr. I have dies, powder and a bunch of A-Max's. I need to get off my ass and work up some loads. Not particularly happy with that vltor stock. It wobbles a lot and rattles while I'm hunting. Thinking of just putting an A2 on there Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Woot! Love my Grendel. Did this last Thursday. http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg538/joecoastie99/IMG_20151119_174737_zpsivvvw7pt.jpg Shot the big one on a perfect broadside. Half of the heart was completely missing. The other one was between the shoulders and out through the neck. Didn't lose any meat despite that shot. Used Hornady SST's worked great. I have a lot of guns but I do believe this AR is now pulling duty every Deer season I love the SST 123gr. It's stupid accurate in both of my Grendels. I know. I moved a year ago, and my reloading room is still just storing all my reloading gear...  |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:08:53 PM EDT
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Wow, in only ten short years after all the promises, there is finally crappy ammo available for 30 cents so you can blast your way to a broken bolt in no time.
With the DPMS G2 standard there is no reason to shoot 6.5 Grendel. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:20:18 PM EDT
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I see .300 Blackout and 6.5 Grendel making it, and 6.8 not really going anywhere. .300blk has good potential on the marketplace because it has a cool name and Americans have a weird preoccupation with .30 caliber rifles. A lot of people are talking about it, I know several people that own them, and product lines are growing. 6.5 Grendel has a good potential on the marketplace as a result of its long range performance. A few people are talking about it, and the offerings are slowly getting better. 6.8? I know one dude with a 6.8. He is very well off financially, and he is the sort of guy that also owns a .458 SOCOM and a .500 Beowulf. I don't think it's a bad cartridge, but I just don't see it gaining much more ground on the market. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I swear, one of these fad calibers has to break out. 300blk, 6.8, 6.5. I'm just waiting for one to really catch on so I can afford to build and shoot a rifle in one. I see .300 Blackout and 6.5 Grendel making it, and 6.8 not really going anywhere. .300blk has good potential on the marketplace because it has a cool name and Americans have a weird preoccupation with .30 caliber rifles. A lot of people are talking about it, I know several people that own them, and product lines are growing. 6.5 Grendel has a good potential on the marketplace as a result of its long range performance. A few people are talking about it, and the offerings are slowly getting better. 6.8? I know one dude with a 6.8. He is very well off financially, and he is the sort of guy that also owns a .458 SOCOM and a .500 Beowulf. I don't think it's a bad cartridge, but I just don't see it gaining much more ground on the market. Yeah.....no. Ammo is down to 45 cents a round for blaster 6.8.....and it is easy to sell the brass for 20 cents (or more). So 25 cents for blaster. For 50 cents you can get the 90gr GD which is made by federal for their few foreign 6.8 contracts. It is both a good hunting, and a good self defense round. Open up pretty much any AR ammo/parts supplier and you will see 6.8 ammo and parts (more so then even last year). As for 6.5...it is too little too late. Both 6.8 and 6.5 are so similar in performance at realistic engagement ranges for hunting/military applications that my decision to go 6.8 came strictly from utilitarian standpoint. I can find 6.8 on the shelves at my LGS, Walmart, and online with no problem. Just having a foreign military ammo contract would show evidence that 6.8 isn't going away anytime soon. |
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Posted: 11/26/2015 12:24:25 PM EDT
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I ordered brass cased PPU 120gr HPBT for $9.99/box from PSA a while back. From the Lilja barrels I have shot it through, it groups amazingly well. First group was in the .3's from an 18" Lilja. That's what I pay for my DM Course 5.56 match loads from PPU that I stack for the back up rifles. The reasons for me to shoot .223 at intermediate distance have pretty much ended. I still use it for close range CQM courses, but it isn't even fun next to 6.5 Grendel on steel at distance. When people look over and see a little AR15 banging steel like the Grendel does, they always ask if I'm shooting the 200yd target. Nope, that's 600yds. Eyes scrunch up quizzically, confused. Then I show them the little cartridge and they get even more confused. Put them behind the gun, shoot steel, no more confusion, just smiles and "Where can I get one?" You're not helping alleviate my want for a 6.5 Grendel upper... neither is this thread... One day... Question for you since you'd know and I trust your opinion based on your other posts: who makes the best (or "best-tier") 18-20" 6.5 Grendel barrel/matched bolt combo? |
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