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Posted: 11/25/2015 12:57:18 PM EDT
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It will cost you one dollar but its a great visual. Calculate the percentage increase and measure the dollar and calculate the percentage of the length and draw a line across it. Take a pair of scissors and cut off that part, show them what's left and say, "That's how much your dollar is now worth." A much better and more effective visual aid would be to use 100 pennies. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 12:58:45 PM EDT
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As a paramedic, she can literally gargle my balls.
I have nothing else to say because she is too fucking stupid to argue with. I blame western civilization for people like her, if she lived in any other culture in any other time on this planet, natural selection and Darwin would have wiped her from the gene pool long ago and for good reason. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:01:28 PM EDT
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She didn't like the "Economics 101" suggestion
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:01:48 PM EDT
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I like my wifes response to minimum wage: "What do you need more money for?"
Healthcare? You got it - just go to ER, Alabama has "All Kids", etc. Food? You got it - EBT, WIC, etc. Housing? You got it - Sec. 8, etc. Cell phone? You got it - Obamaphone, etc. So, what do you need more money for? Why do you need an increase in wages? OHHHHhhhhh... you need Jordans. OOHHhhhhhh... you need a PS4 (and games) OOOhhhhh... you need rims FBHO |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:01:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe company would pay less tax because they will make less profit after paying higher wages. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:07:21 PM EDT
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so if i am making $65 an hour, will i see a $7 raise? To sustain the same buying power, would you really need to see a raise to $97.50 an hour? |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:07:29 PM EDT
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Tell her to start hiring?
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:11:41 PM EDT
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Just respond with "I have no problem with that, but everyone that is able MUST work 40 hours (even if that means 2 part time jobs) AND no government assistance is available to 40 hour a week employees. They now make a "living" wage. They should be able to manage.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:13:03 PM EDT
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Quote History*right click, save. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:14:53 PM EDT
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Explain the "Cheeseburger" cost:
Right now, for example, a minimum wage earner can hypothetically earn enough money a $7.25 to buy a cheeseburger meal every hour they work. The evil corporate executive can buy 1,000 cheeseburgers every hour they work. Now increase the minimum wage to $15/hr. What do you expect? If you said "two cheeseburger meals an hour" you are incorrect. Because whether it is burgers or widgets the unit-cost of the employee to the employer is 1-unit or product (in this case the burger meal). After the dust settles the burger meal is going to cost $15, the employee will still only buy 1 meal per hour, and the evil corporate executive will still be able to buy 1,000. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:16:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Turns out she's a feminist as well... Who'da thunk?
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:17:51 PM EDT
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You can not expect to live the American dream on an entry level salary. If you are an adult making an entry level wage you have made poor life choices. Either you are under educated or lazy. One of these can be corrected for a very low cost at any community college. The other is a character defect that no amount of help from another person or organization will help. If you are unhappy with the wage structure start a business and pay your employees what you will. Do not place yourself in the position to judge another companies cash flow when you are not involved with them an a day to day basis. This only displays your ignorance of basic business principles.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryTell her to start a business and pay everyone at least $15 an hour or her arguements are all feel good BS. Secondly, she needs to but out of other people's business arrangements (work for agreed payment) and not use the government to intervene because "feels". |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:21:18 PM EDT
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when those fuckers at McDonalds can get my order right 3 times in a row, I'll start to consider it. Not holding my breath No hablo ingles 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:21:45 PM EDT
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I know quite a bit about robotics, make minimum wage $20 please
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:21:49 PM EDT
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the something that needs to change is they should get a different job. entry level jobs are not meant to provide a level of income to live off of. why $15? hell, make it $50 and be done with it. Or maybe even $100 just reinforcing the post above me... FUCK YEAH, free mansions for all. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote Historybusiness management is one of the easiest degrees to get. just above marketing, weak sauce. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:23:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Changing the minimum wage doesn't change the value of the work. On the other hand, telling people they're just going to have to suck it up and starve isn't realistic. They'll just vote for Democrats. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:27:52 PM EDT
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I asked where she thought the money should come from to increase the minimum, and just to make sure it wasn't a totally lost cause I asked if she thought taxes or goverment funding should cover it. This was the response. Her: Me: Commence triggering from here on out... Her: Quote HistoryQuoted:
I asked where she thought the money should come from to increase the minimum, and just to make sure it wasn't a totally lost cause I asked if she thought taxes or goverment funding should cover it. This was the response. Her: Companies should pay their employees a living wage. I don't understand what you're trying to argue with me about here. Me: I wasn't aware there was an argument Commence triggering from here on out... Her: Oh sorry I just assumed this was your attempt at trying to stump me because your questions had no real correlation with my post. or ya know when they use correlation it mean they are smart and college edukated en stuff. she id s business mange met major. have her estimate (if she can be intellectually honest) the impact on the buisness a roughly 50% increase in labor costs will do to the business and how it will be covered to maintain the margins of the business. She can get almost all the info from online to make a good estimate. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:33:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou don't need to be Nostradamus to see bankruptcy in her not too distant future |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:33:43 PM EDT
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http://www.theonion.com/article/congress-passes-americans-with-no-abilities-act-541
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:36:18 PM EDT
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or ya know when they use correlation it mean they are smart and college edukated en stuff. she id s business mange met major. have her estimate (if she can be intellectually honest) the impact on the buisness a roughly 50% increase in labor costs will do to the business and how it will be covered to maintain the margins of the business. She can get almost all the info from online to make a good estimate. Or, even easier - how much extra does it cost a business to raise 100 people working 30 hour weeks from $7.50 to $15.00 If she says $22500 per week then crush her. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:42:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryTell her to get back to us once she is employed and paying taxes, until then she can shut her cock holster and keep her shit opinions to herself. The only economics she's studying is Keynesian at best which would explain why her opinion is so skull fucked. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:42:19 PM EDT
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Imagine what would happen when those of making about $20/hr quit our stressful jobs to go work for $15/hr doing piddly shit. Those lazy fucks making making minimum wage now will be out of work QUICK.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:44:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Tell the idiot to start up their own company, pay what ever wages they want to pay their workers and then to shut the fuck up
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:46:03 PM EDT
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Minimum wage should be increased at a rate substantial enough to cause the value of that wage to diminish eventually. Some people remember paying <$1 for a gallon of milk, or $.59 for a dozen eggs... We should ensure that the cost of basic items continues to rise at a rate that will ensure that the "minimum wage" earners (earn is subjective, "receivers" might be more appropriate) will continue to be sub-par for everyone who receives it.
This way, that sales tax, based on a percentage of the item's selling price, will continue to increase government profits.  |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:46:52 PM EDT
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I like my wifes response to minimum wage: "What do you need more money for?" Healthcare? You got it - just go to ER, Alabama has "All Kids", etc. Food? You got it - EBT, WIC, etc. Housing? You got it - Sec. 8, etc. Cell phone? You got it - Obamaphone, etc. So, what do you need more money for? Why do you need an increase in wages? OHHHHhhhhh... you need Jordans. OOHHhhhhhh... you need a PS4 (and games) OOOhhhhh... you need rims FBHO Your wife unit is smart. 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:49:05 PM EDT
[#28]
"Why don't YOU start a company that hires people to do menial labor at $15/hr?"
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:50:44 PM EDT
[#29]
If you are trying to make house payments, child care, car payments, etc on a minimum wage job then you made some extremely poor life choices. I've never made minimum wage. Not even as a kid. You have either had criminal problems, dropped out of school, or are an extremely poor employee that continually gets fired if you can't get in to some type of supervisor/management position.
And the economics of it. Unskilled jobs will always be at the bottom. In a free market, in no way will someone working a fry station make the same amount that their supervisor is making. This type of thing should motivate people to educate themselves, learn a trade whatever. Instead it just causes people to complain that life isn't fair. It's a joke. I'm sick of uneducated people acting like they deserve something for nothing. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:54:06 PM EDT
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Turns out she's only ever worked as a waitress. So not only is she completely fucked in regards to economic understanding, but half her wages are untaxed...
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Posted: 11/25/2015 1:56:36 PM EDT
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I'm sick of uneducated people acting like they deserve something for nothing. I'm sure you mean unskilled people. I've met plenty of educated people who have no skills. I've also met plenty of uneducated and unskilled people who thought they were entitled to everything. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 2:14:41 PM EDT
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Owner with 4 employees paying them each $7.50/hr now has to cut his employee staff in half due to the $15/hr min wage.
Is it fair to throw 2 employees out on the streets? Excuses: 1) oh they can get another job.........really not if every employer is doing the same thing. 2) they can go back to school..........maybe they don't want to; maybe they liked their previous job and was good at it; now they must take on DEBT on the HOPES of landing another job. 3) Make the employer pay...............and when the employer files bankruptcy, and everybody's fired, who wins? 4) Bring back price controls so higher wages can buy more..............good luck, and welcome to the old Soviet economy. 5) Higher wages will bring dignity.........dignity won't buy a loaf of bread and neither will your weimar deutschmarks. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 2:19:17 PM EDT
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I asked where she thought the money should come from to increase the minimum, and just to make sure it wasn't a totally lost cause I asked if she thought taxes or goverment funding should cover it. This was the response. Her: Me: Commence triggering from here on out... Her: Quote HistoryQuoted:
I asked where she thought the money should come from to increase the minimum, and just to make sure it wasn't a totally lost cause I asked if she thought taxes or goverment funding should cover it. This was the response. Her: Companies should pay their employees a living wage. I don't understand what you're trying to argue with me about here. Me: I wasn't aware there was an argument Commence triggering from here on out... Her: Oh sorry I just assumed this was your attempt at trying to stump me because your questions had no real correlation with my post. Just baby step her through it. Ask her what happens to the business when they have to double their cost for payroll. And what happens to people on fixed incomes when they suddenly have to pay more for goods and services. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 2:28:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Easy. No $15 p/h required.
Damn. Beat again. By an in focus with multiple units potato pic. 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 2:31:50 PM EDT
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Imagine what would happen when those of making about $20/hr quit our stressful jobs to go work for $15/hr doing piddly shit. Those lazy fucks making making minimum wage now will be out of work QUICK. The first part is a real concern for me. My entire workforce could go poof with a stroke of a pen. I'm in the construction industry and have to start at $15/hr just to get decent employees. By decent, I mean people that will mostly show up on time mostly sober...mostly . Union guys are $20+/hr, illegals are being paid $10 cash, and then there are the assholes with their Craiglist "businesses" that are all over the map. My profit margin is too thin to raise wages if my guys think about quitting. Those last two competitors though have significantly less overhead than legitimate businesses so they're more flexible. 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 2:34:41 PM EDT
[#36]
The minimum wage should be abolished.
All it does is fuel inflation. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 2:35:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Higher wages --> more consumption --> more global warming --> more terrorism = ISIS wins
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Posted: 11/25/2015 2:39:06 PM EDT
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So his "proof" is that FDR said that? Weak. Quote HistoryQuoted:
So his "proof" is that FDR said that? Weak. I'd believe it - fuckwad was a straight up socialist. Look at his proposed 2nd bill of rights. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation; The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living; The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad; The right of every family to a decent home; The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health; The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment; The right to a good education. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 2:45:46 PM EDT
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I'd believe it - fuckwad was a straight up socialist. Look at his proposed 2nd bill of rights. FDR did two things right: He left his Generals and Admirals alone to win the war. He died in office before we had to deal with his Marxist bullshit after the war. Everything else he did was shit. Fuck FDR. Only Wilson was worse. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 2:48:31 PM EDT
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Turns out she's only ever worked as a waitress. So not only is she completely fucked in regards to economic understanding, but half her wages are untaxed... It's more than half. I worked as a waiter from age 15 to 19 in a mom-n-pop seafood house. Big tippers were rare - "seniors" could come in, get a piece of flounder, fries or potato and slaw for like $5. Even at a 10% tip, you do the math. Minimum wage was $3.35/hr, but restaurant could deduct "Tip Credit" of like $2.01/hr. Paid for hours every two weeks - I worked ~20 hours per week. I bought a used 65 mustang for 2 grand and then did at least that much in maintenance/restoration. Kept that one, bought a used 87 sentra summer before my senior year in HS in anticipation of having to drive to college every week the next year. It was paid for by the end of my first year in college. (worked minimum wage of $4.25/hr freshman year at second job on-campus in addition to working at the restaurant every weekend) Tell her to shut her SJW piehole and just block you
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Posted: 11/25/2015 3:09:13 PM EDT
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Ask her if a person who wants to be able to work and is totally willing to work for less than $15 should be allowed to work for less than minimum wage, by signing a waiver. This will trip her up real good.  |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 3:22:36 PM EDT
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So Wal Mart listed first on the fortune 500 list for 2014.
Well known RUMOR that they coach employees on how to sign up for govt benefits. My taxes go to pay employee benefits. So, do my taxes go to shore up Wal Marts bottom line, or to the lazy minimum wage workers? Just curious.... 
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Posted: 11/25/2015 3:29:26 PM EDT
[#43]
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Degrees don't make someone right. 0bama has a law degree and I don't think he knows shit about what is legal or not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ask him/her/it if she has a degree in economics. When she says "no" tell her you only take economic advice from someone qualified to give it. Then ask her if she takes medical advice from a politician, before she responds launch into an Obamacare tirade. Degrees don't make someone right. 0bama has a law degree and I don't think he knows shit about what is legal or not. Maybe not, but it's a good starting point for knowing that someone has at least a clue on what they are talking about. Not knowing and not caring are two different things. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 3:30:52 PM EDT
[#44]
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Ask her if a person who wants to be able to work and is totally willing to work for less than $15 should be allowed to work for less than minimum wage, by signing a waiver. This will trip her up real good.
I like this |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 3:32:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a good one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've used this a few times: The problem with raising the minimum wage is that you don't end up making that work worth more, you make the money worth less. This is a good one. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 3:37:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Turns out she's a feminist as well... Who'da thunk? for months now. If it becomes law and I (As an employer) am forced to pay ANYONE I hire that wage (Regardless of their skills/work ethic/employment history/education...etc) then a whole LOT of the people she "thinks" she's trying to help with this horseshit are going to have their applications round filed before they ever have a chance at these positions. I'm gonna be looking for the cream of the crop. I won't have time (Or money) to consider the crappy inner city school you attended that left you with the reading ability of a (Slow) 4th grader or that the "English" you speak is understandable to 20% of my customers OR that you consider getting to work 30mins late EVERYDAY as "On Time"( ).I'm gonna hire bright, hardworking, enthusiastic, punctual young folks who'll make money for me above the $15/hr the government says I have to pay them. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 3:37:45 PM EDT
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Anyone who thinks a person whose job is to take fast food orders, push the buttons on the register that look like the food the person ordered (because actually running the price in the register is too complicated for them), and make change should be able to buy a home on the wages from that job alone is so abysmally stupid that arguing with them is utterly pointless.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 3:44:36 PM EDT
[#48]
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Anyone who thinks a person whose job is to take fast food orders, push the buttons on the register that look like the food the person ordered (because actually running the price in the register is too complicated for them), and make change should be able to buy a home on the wages from that job alone is so abysmally stupid that arguing with them is utterly pointless. Hell, in much of the US a person could probably buy a modest home after a few years of working hard at a fast food joint (probably not terribly tough to move up to management), living frugally, and putting off starting a family. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 4:03:05 PM EDT
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Per Dr. Thomas Sowell, "The real minimum wage is ZERO."
and that is what you're going to get for a lot of people whose skills can't generate $15 an hour. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 4:11:52 PM EDT
[#50]
A person doesn't need much money to live, look at people in other countries.
Our "poor" people here are better off than most middle class 3rd world people. Living doesn't mean having a cell phone, cable TV, air conditioning, cigarettes, X box, or even a TV for that matter. 
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