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Posted: 11/24/2015 4:34:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 4:36:19 AM EDT
[#1]
Russians gone learn.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 4:38:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Let's just let the Ruskies fuck up those backstabbing Turkish bastards.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 4:40:36 AM EDT
[#3]
Bye bye Russian SU-24
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 4:52:59 AM EDT
[#4]
There were ten Russian bombers in the air.....
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:02:53 AM EDT
[#5]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMznJBUsD0E[/youtube]

Watch it live.

Chris
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:02:53 AM EDT
[#6]
Warned, then shot down my F-16s, according to the news..
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:06:49 AM EDT
[#8]
Kremlin is acknowledging that it was a Russian jet and that contrary to what the Turks are stating, the plane didn't not violate Turk space.  Seems like at least one pilot ejected, or both.

CNN.

Let's get this party started.

Chris
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:13:37 AM EDT
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I agree with you on this.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:18:18 AM EDT
[#11]
What a mess.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:22:11 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:24:02 AM EDT
[#13]
Yay! We all fucked!
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:27:54 AM EDT
[#14]
Turks vs Russians...



Reminds me of Diplomancy...




Where are the Austro-Hungarians?
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:34:36 AM EDT
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Turks vs Russians...



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Where are the Austro-Hungarians?

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Istanbul was Constantinople will be Putinburg?



 
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:37:25 AM EDT
[#16]
I knew it was only a matter of time until something like this happened.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:39:57 AM EDT
[#17]
RT ?@RT_com  27 minutes ago
LATEST: Turkmen forces seize one of downed Su-24 pilots in Syria - CNN Turk http://on.rt.com/6xe7
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:40:16 AM EDT
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Turks vs Russians...

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Where are the Austro-Hungarians?
Istanbul was Constantinople will be Putinburg?
 



Nobody's business but the Turks. Aaaand, maybe the Russkies.

I don't think the Russian air force can handle the Turks and continue the Syrian engagement at the same time.

The Turks may be better pilots.

Also, is that a gun kill in that video? I never saw a missile, and there was some "gun like" sound.

They're proving that the Russians are not up to snuff, not enough seat time.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:41:21 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:42:50 AM EDT
[#20]
Hmmmm, interesting....not sure if GD wants me to be happy or enraged about this though.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:45:55 AM EDT
[#21]
In before WW3.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:46:20 AM EDT
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Nobody's business but the Turks. Aaaand, maybe the Russkies.



I don't think the Russian air force can handle the Turks and continue the Syrian engagement at the same time.



The Turks may be better pilots.



Also, is that a gun kill in that video? I never saw a missile, and there was some "gun like" sound.



They're proving that the Russians are not up to snuff, not enough seat time.
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Turks vs Russians...



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Where are the Austro-Hungarians?

Istanbul was Constantinople will be Putinburg?

 






Nobody's business but the Turks. Aaaand, maybe the Russkies.



I don't think the Russian air force can handle the Turks and continue the Syrian engagement at the same time.



The Turks may be better pilots.



Also, is that a gun kill in that video? I never saw a missile, and there was some "gun like" sound.



They're proving that the Russians are not up to snuff, not enough seat time.


The Su-24 is basically an F-111. It's not a fighter. And they probably weren't there to dogfight with Turkish F-16s.



 
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:48:02 AM EDT
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The Su-24 is basically an F-111. It's not a fighter. And they probably weren't there to dogfight with Turkish F-16s.
 
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Where are the Austro-Hungarians?
Istanbul was Constantinople will be Putinburg?
 



Nobody's business but the Turks. Aaaand, maybe the Russkies.

I don't think the Russian air force can handle the Turks and continue the Syrian engagement at the same time.

The Turks may be better pilots.

Also, is that a gun kill in that video? I never saw a missile, and there was some "gun like" sound.

They're proving that the Russians are not up to snuff, not enough seat time.

The Su-24 is basically an F-111. It's not a fighter. And they probably weren't there to dogfight with Turkish F-16s.
 


Nope. They were there to bomb anti-assad Turkish trained rebels.

Que Fred Thompson please...
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:50:33 AM EDT
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In before WW3.
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WW3 has already been under way.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:52:16 AM EDT
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WW3 has already been under way.
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In before WW3.
WW3 has already been under way.


In before the glowy  radioactive portion of it then?
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:52:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:53:22 AM EDT
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I hate the Ruskies and the current Turk.gov but sure don't want to enter WW3 on Turkey's behalf
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 5:58:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:06:33 AM EDT
[#30]
Whoops!  
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:10:04 AM EDT
[#31]
Video of dead Russian pilot ...full of snackbars

https://mobile.twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/669096228777521153     video
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:15:37 AM EDT
[#32]
Turks and Russians have a long history of killing each other by the boat load. We should do everything possible to encourage this to continue. And then we all pretend to be busy when the SHTF and the Turks pull the NATO card. If Obama had any sack he'd say "why don't you call for Jihad instead of article 5 and let your new Islamist 'friends' help you when those Russian Strategic Rocket Forces start pointing those explody things at your cities, you fucks".
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:16:05 AM EDT
[#33]
All kidding aside, how big of a deal is this.   Is it a pivotal point?  Hello me out here.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:16:36 AM EDT
[#34]
This whole God damned thing is going to get out of control to the point of no return.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:17:05 AM EDT
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Dead as in fell from the sky, or beaten to death by local screw-heads?
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:18:09 AM EDT
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Nobody's business but the Turks. Aaaand, maybe the Russkies.

I don't think the Russian air force can handle the Turks and continue the Syrian engagement at the same time.

The Turks may be better pilots.

Also, is that a gun kill in that video? I never saw a missile, and there was some "gun like" sound.

They're proving that the Russians are not up to snuff, not enough seat time.
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Turks vs Russians...

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Where are the Austro-Hungarians?
Istanbul was Constantinople will be Putinburg?
 



Nobody's business but the Turks. Aaaand, maybe the Russkies.

I don't think the Russian air force can handle the Turks and continue the Syrian engagement at the same time.

The Turks may be better pilots.

Also, is that a gun kill in that video? I never saw a missile, and there was some "gun like" sound.

They're proving that the Russians are not up to snuff, not enough seat time.

I think the clicking was a camera shutter
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:21:02 AM EDT
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It'll get handled diplomatically. Russia has waaaay too much on her plate to deal with Turkey right now. Besides, NATO. Alot depends on who is right about where the plane was. The Turks are sensitive about the Turkmen population in Syria, and it's right on the border where Russia is bombing. Russia might actually be in the right on this one. But it'll all get smoothed over. Nobody is going to war over an ancient jet and one pilot. If they're proven to be wrong the Turks will cut a check to the pilot's family and halfheartedly apologize. If the Russians were wrong then expect them to continue to do exactly what they're doing and deny everything.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:34:35 AM EDT
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Dead as in fell from the sky, or beaten to death by local screw-heads?
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Dead as in fell from the sky, or beaten to death by local screw-heads?




 
Important question. I heard the pilots punched out.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:34:53 AM EDT
[#39]


Has the BlackLivesMatter crowd filed a formal complaint with the Turkish government and NATO for taking the spotlight off of them yet?


Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:35:11 AM EDT
[#40]
In for the shit show
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:35:59 AM EDT
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  Important question. I heard the pilots punched out.
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Dead as in fell from the sky, or beaten to death by local screw-heads?

  Important question. I heard the pilots punched out.


Said they were both seen attempting to evade and a Russian helicopter was on its way to the area.

Sounds like one of them was better at it.


Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:41:49 AM EDT
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I wonder if Putin is going to take this personally or not.

ETA, musical accompaniment for the end of the world:

Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:42:15 AM EDT
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Said they were both seen attempting to evade and a Russian helicopter was on its way to the area.

Sounds like one of them was better at it.


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Dead as in fell from the sky, or beaten to death by local screw-heads?

  Important question. I heard the pilots punched out.


Said they were both seen attempting to evade and a Russian helicopter was on its way to the area.

Sounds like one of them was better at it.




OST...  

ALSO: in before the nukes start flying.

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Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:50:50 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:55:27 AM EDT
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Said they were both seen attempting to evade and a Russian helicopter was on its way to the area.

Sounds like one of them was better at it.


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Dead as in fell from the sky, or beaten to death by local screw-heads?

  Important question. I heard the pilots punched out.


Said they were both seen attempting to evade and a Russian helicopter was on its way to the area.

Sounds like one of them was better at it.





Yeah, I probably would have evaded too considering they just shot me down.    I doubt the welcome wagon was going to be a stretch limo with a hot tub full of strippers......
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 6:58:49 AM EDT
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In to see where this goes.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 7:02:24 AM EDT
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Yep


So basically the russian plane was a ccw pistol, and the Turk plane was a AK.

Clearly in that case russia should know it didn't stand a chance.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 7:02:54 AM EDT
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I wonder if Putin is going to take this personally or not.



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Love that song.

 
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 7:03:22 AM EDT
[#49]
In on 1.
Link Posted: 11/24/2015 7:03:50 AM EDT
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Maybe this will make Russia be a bit more careful about air space violations going forward. They've been bullying other nations and testing the limits for a number of years. It was just a matter of time until someone got tired of it and possessed the balls to do something about it. Whether or not the Russians actually violated Turkish air space today is another question, but we know there have been a few incidents already. At some point, things left to simmer may come to a boil. It is what it is.

ETA: Oh, and this is the much vaunted Russian Su-24, the same aircraft they claimed to have totally disabled (electronically) an Arleigh Burke class destroyer in the Black Sea. Yet in reality, those electronics couldn't even deal with a couple of export F-16s.
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