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Ok, so try this: Don't change basic training or AIT: All active component, Guard, and Reserve Soldiers train at the same facilities *initially*. Train all officers at an active component OCS only-no individual state commissioning programs. Eliminate resident PME from the Regular Army, and send your active component Soldiers to ARNG schools. Crazy talk you say? AGR instructor billets are very competitive from what I've seen-instructors are hand selected based on work ethic and other factors. They're very good at what they do. I can't speak for other states, but here in ID becoming an instructor isn't a vacation from the operating forces, since they work long hours and weeks without a break between classes. The benefits would include reduced time in a compressed schedule to teach the same course material, reduced costs to send a student to the course, and a more competitive and challenging academic environment for the students. The idea isn't as far-fetched as some might think; there was talk about eliminating M1A1 Master Gunner School from Ft. Benning (God, that sounds weird), and moving it to the ARNG as there's a reduced need for M1A1 "Mike Golfs" on active duty since the Army is fielding more M1A2 SEPs. There's still a need, but just not as much as there used to be. The Guard would be a good fit since the instructors and course material are of such high caliber. With the economy as bad as it still is, the Guard can be very selective about who they pick for AGR. High quality instructors make for high quality schools, which in turn make for a high quality product (the student). Save money, generate better trained graduates, and expose active component Soldiers to the professional side of the National Guard. I believe it would go to some length to dispel the notion that the Guard isn't committed to the mission, or is incapable of achieving a level of readiness the active component exists for. View Quote Having commanded an RTI, I can get behind this. Certainly for OCS My standards for instructors were higher than active duty, that's for sure. |
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I'm not 100% sure we want the draft back. After dealing with soldiers who had a huge chip on their shoulder because they were "tricked" by their recruiter into joining the infantry, I can't imagine the discipline issues coming from modern American youths being forced into the military. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We need the draft back. The ending of conscription has been a large part of the deterioration of American values in the last four decades. I'm not 100% sure we want the draft back. After dealing with soldiers who had a huge chip on their shoulder because they were "tricked" by their recruiter into joining the infantry, I can't imagine the discipline issues coming from modern American youths being forced into the military. Yeah, wow, no. The draft should be implemented in time of total war or invasion of the homeland where our existing .mil isn't sufficient, because just drafting young MEN (should be women now, too, they's ranger now) makes for serious morale issues on the sharp end. |
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I'm not 100% sure we want the draft back. After dealing with soldiers who had a huge chip on their shoulder because they were "tricked" by their recruiter into joining the infantry, I can't imagine the discipline issues coming from modern American youths being forced into the military. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We need the draft back. The ending of conscription has been a large part of the deterioration of American values in the last four decades. I'm not 100% sure we want the draft back. After dealing with soldiers who had a huge chip on their shoulder because they were "tricked" by their recruiter into joining the infantry, I can't imagine the discipline issues coming from modern American youths being forced into the military. There's no need for that level of manpower, either. As the technology increases, the military will get even smaller per capita. There's nowhere to put these draftees, unless the plan is to put all of them through basic/AIT and then register them for 8 years in the IRR. |
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Yeah, wow, no. The draft should be implemented in time of total war or invasion of the homeland where our existing .mil isn't sufficient, because just drafting young MEN (should be women now, too, they's ranger now) makes for serious morale issues on the sharp end. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We need the draft back. The ending of conscription has been a large part of the deterioration of American values in the last four decades. I'm not 100% sure we want the draft back. After dealing with soldiers who had a huge chip on their shoulder because they were "tricked" by their recruiter into joining the infantry, I can't imagine the discipline issues coming from modern American youths being forced into the military. Yeah, wow, no. The draft should be implemented in time of total war or invasion of the homeland where our existing .mil isn't sufficient, because just drafting young MEN (should be women now, too, they's ranger now) makes for serious morale issues on the sharp end. I was thinking more of a draft to keep force levels consistent and not of OMFGWTFBBQ war draft. |
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Definitely!! That's just one of its many morale-boosting near-magical properties. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What you really need are more bearskin hats. would it make me look taller? Definitely!! That's just one of its many morale-boosting near-magical properties. Is that some sort of scheme to help fatties make weight? |
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sorry guys we are in debt over our heads. Congress has tied their hands with "mandatory social spending and Te gove doe not want massive riots from the masses they keep in "entitlement slavery"
There are no threats (real one anyway) that a million man army is needed for, they money to feed all those who are made and kept helpless by the gov has to some from somewhere (that which we don't borrow or manufacture outright) so it will have to be you. Sorry but that is they way it is. We could save a but load closing all those Euro bases we don't need and let them take care of themselves. In fact bring them all home and in out bases at home. However the allure of "travel and seeing the world" will affect recruitment I am sure. regardless we really don't have the need or the cash |
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I was assured by a portly gentleman in woodland camo at a gun store that the first stage in arresting the moral decline of our Army was to re-issue the M14 rifle and 1911 pistol. This simple change would swap out a "PC poodleshooter Mattel rifle" with a "real man's weapon." Its legendary iron sights would transform all of those guys who can't hit a silhouette at 200 m with an ACOG into true marksmen capable of dropping Taliban at 600 yards. The 1911's recoil and power would instantly make a man out of the various sissies and liberals that infest the ranks. Small arms are, after all, definitely the single most important factor on the modern battlefield.
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I was thinking more of a draft to keep force levels consistent and not of OMFGWTFBBQ war draft. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We need the draft back. The ending of conscription has been a large part of the deterioration of American values in the last four decades. I'm not 100% sure we want the draft back. After dealing with soldiers who had a huge chip on their shoulder because they were "tricked" by their recruiter into joining the infantry, I can't imagine the discipline issues coming from modern American youths being forced into the military. Yeah, wow, no. The draft should be implemented in time of total war or invasion of the homeland where our existing .mil isn't sufficient, because just drafting young MEN (should be women now, too, they's ranger now) makes for serious morale issues on the sharp end. I was thinking more of a draft to keep force levels consistent and not of OMFGWTFBBQ war draft. They're trying to CUT force levels... |
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How about we just pull our military out of everything else and bring them all home, spend the money here, spend all that savings on stacking deep and new tech designs. Speak softly with a big stick. IMO they would be much more useful on our Southern border than they are for example in SK DMZ. View Quote If it's not forward deployed, it's not a big stick. Can't have it both ways. But anyway, the big stick TR was referencing was a powerful Navy, which is appropriate for the sea-going mercantilist nation that we are. |
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The Association of the U.S. Army opens its annual three-day symposium and exposition today with deep concerns about the future of America’s Army. first this is like the armies union they are kind full of shit 1. We must stop the drop in Army force strength, at least until we have consensus on what needs to be done and how many soldiers this will take. wrong dropping force streanth is fine we need to release those close to retirment or those mid careers who want out.
2. We need budget stability. We need a reasonable five-year defense plan that the Army and its industry partners can trust, without gimmicks and without fear of sequestration. why should the armies budget be special from everyone else this is a total unicorn fart request 3. We must believe—not just say—that active, National Guard and Army Reserve soldiers are equal partners on the One Army team. no way in hell is a ranger or an 101st/82nd trooper or 3rd ID tankergonna say they are equal to a nasty guard part timer 4. Rotational deployments to Europe, Asia, and other locations, and rotations to the National Training Center, need to be fully supported and, if possible, expanded because a smaller Army has to work harder at being a global presence. WTF why rotate at NTC that place sucks ass 2-3 weeks is long enough there, and how is going to California going to help our global presence. ? we have no bases in Europe besides Italy & its too small for heavy rotation. & the guard cannot participate in such rotations so this voids goal3 5. The Army needs money to experiment on weapons, because innovation and technological breakthroughs are the future of the force. bull shit the army needs to spend more time on training privates to most effectivley use what we have & maintaib that equipment correctly. the newcrap is all broken or will never get used google WAM landm ine you'll see 6. We have to mean it when we say we support the troops. more crappy feel good BS give the servicemen appropriate raises as needed I and stop trying to jail servicemen for beating rapist, & stop releasing terrorist weve jailed. 7. Partisan bickering on national security policy has to stop. View Quote View Quote The army needs nothing more than a real ROE if anything about 10 more c130 gunships to support our guys. it can do this on its existing bloated budget why in the hell is recruiting sponsoring NASCAR just one of many I can think of. |
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If it's not forward deployed, it's not a big stick. Can't have it both ways. But anyway, the big stick TR was referencing was a powerful Navy, which is appropriate for the sea-going mercantilist nation that we are. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How about we just pull our military out of everything else and bring them all home, spend the money here, spend all that savings on stacking deep and new tech designs. Speak softly with a big stick. IMO they would be much more useful on our Southern border than they are for example in SK DMZ. If it's not forward deployed, it's not a big stick. Can't have it both ways. But anyway, the big stick TR was referencing was a powerful Navy, which is appropriate for the sea-going mercantilist nation that we are. we have not had much presence on the DMZsince w Bush shut most of it down his 2nd term souel maybe but the DMZ is relatively empty as far as US troops are concerned. I was there in 99 we had 30,000 within 20 miles of the DMZ we now have 28, 500 mostly centered around souel or Pusan bush shut down thecamps in the western corridor. probably a good thing IMO. |
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Arguably equally a waste of money. Only one wastes a whole lot more money. won't someone think of the contractors industry partners? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What about F35s though? Or Super Tucs Arguably equally a waste of money. Only one wastes a whole lot more money. won't someone think of the contractors industry partners? |
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Arguably equally a waste of money. Only one wastes a whole lot more money. won't someone think of the contractors? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What about F35s though? Or Super Tucs Arguably equally a waste of money. Only one wastes a whole lot more money. won't someone think of the contractors? and their children. |
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What about F35s though? Or Super Tucs Arguably equally a waste of money. Only one wastes a whole lot more money. won't someone think of the contractors? and their children. And Oakley. |
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Kids should want to grow up to be soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines, not football/baseball/basketball players or video game designers. Our Gov and the lack of trust in it, are killing our military and our best athletes play with balls instead of being the super heroes our country needs. Not saying everyone should be forced to join, but they would want to if they trusted their leaders and their Gov.
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The Association of the U.S. Army opens its annual three-day symposium and exposition today with deep concerns about the future of America’s Army. 1. We must stop the drop in Army force strength, at least until we have consensus on what needs to be done and how many soldiers this will take.
2. We need budget stability. We need a reasonable five-year defense plan that the Army and its industry partners can trust, without gimmicks and without fear of sequestration. 3. We must believe—not just say—that active, National Guard and Army Reserve soldiers are equal partners on the One Army team. 4. Rotational deployments to Europe, Asia, and other locations, and rotations to the National Training Center, need to be fully supported and, if possible, expanded because a smaller Army has to work harder at being a global presence. 5. The Army needs money to experiment on weapons, because innovation and technological breakthroughs are the future of the force. 6. We have to mean it when we say we support the troops. 7. Partisan bickering on national security policy has to stop. View Quote View Quote 1. Stop with Multiculturalistic bullshit in the Army, it is a complete failure 2. We must stop believing that everyone is equal when using different testing measures 3. We must reduce being a global presence and increase our national presence to protect and serve the people of the united states not foreign interest 4. We need to focus on warfighting and sack every general thats only goal is metrics (measures of faggotry) 5. We must return to being a lean mean fighting machine, reintroduce the Audi Murphy assault courses, enforce the PT standards, do away with PC bullshit 6. Remove all non-military forces from the military. They suck our budget dry, they make us weak, and make us a partisan force. 7. Remove all Muslims from Service, introduce a real Army Force Protection Policy that enforces killing the Enemy |
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Kids should want to grow up to be soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines, not football/baseball/basketball players or video game designers. Our Gov and the lack of trust in it, are killing our military and our best athletes play with balls instead of being the super heroes our country needs. Not saying everyone should be forced to join, but they would want to if they trusted their leaders and their Gov. View Quote Part of the problem is The U.S. of A. is slowly turning to something not worth fighting for. Plus the social experiment the .mil is turning into I'm sure turns some of them away. |
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You're getting new camouflage, at least you got that going for you.
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Part of the problem is The U.S. of A. is slowly turning to something not worth fighting for. Plus the social experiment the .mil is turning into I'm sure turns some of them away. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Kids should want to grow up to be soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines, not football/baseball/basketball players or video game designers. Our Gov and the lack of trust in it, are killing our military and our best athletes play with balls instead of being the super heroes our country needs. Not saying everyone should be forced to join, but they would want to if they trusted their leaders and their Gov. Part of the problem is The U.S. of A. is slowly turning to something not worth fighting for. Plus the social experiment the .mil is turning into I'm sure turns some of them away. would you fight and die for Chicago? |
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They're trying to CUT force levels... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was thinking more of a draft to keep force levels consistent and not of OMFGWTFBBQ war draft. They're trying to CUT force levels... They're not trying to, they are, and they will get cut further. |
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Kids should want to grow up to be soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines, not football/baseball/basketball players or video game designers. Our Gov and the lack of trust in it, are killing our military and our best athletes play with balls instead of being the super heroes our country needs. Not saying everyone should be forced to join, but they would want to if they trusted their leaders and their Gov. View Quote Option A, you paid a gazillion dollars and get to bang supermodels. Option B, you have to pawn your rims after your dependapotumus empties your accounts with the general POA you left her with. I'm not sure "trust in their leaders and their gov" is what makes option A more attractive. |
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1. Stop with Multiculturalistic bullshit in the Army, it is a complete failure 2. We must stop believing that everyone is equal when using different testing measures 3. We must reduce being a global presence and increase our national presence to protect and serve the people of the united states not foreign interest 4. We need to focus on warfighting and sack every general thats only goal is metrics (measures of faggotry) 5. We must return to being a lean mean fighting machine, reintroduce the Audi Murphy assault courses, enforce the PT standards, do away with PC bullshit 6. Remove all non-military forces from the military. They suck our budget dry, they make us weak, and make us a partisan force. 7. Remove all Muslims from Service, introduce a real Army Force Protection Policy that enforces killing the Enemy View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The Association of the U.S. Army opens its annual three-day symposium and exposition today with deep concerns about the future of America’s Army. 1. We must stop the drop in Army force strength, at least until we have consensus on what needs to be done and how many soldiers this will take.
2. We need budget stability. We need a reasonable five-year defense plan that the Army and its industry partners can trust, without gimmicks and without fear of sequestration. 3. We must believe—not just say—that active, National Guard and Army Reserve soldiers are equal partners on the One Army team. 4. Rotational deployments to Europe, Asia, and other locations, and rotations to the National Training Center, need to be fully supported and, if possible, expanded because a smaller Army has to work harder at being a global presence. 5. The Army needs money to experiment on weapons, because innovation and technological breakthroughs are the future of the force. 6. We have to mean it when we say we support the troops. 7. Partisan bickering on national security policy has to stop. 1. Stop with Multiculturalistic bullshit in the Army, it is a complete failure 2. We must stop believing that everyone is equal when using different testing measures 3. We must reduce being a global presence and increase our national presence to protect and serve the people of the united states not foreign interest 4. We need to focus on warfighting and sack every general thats only goal is metrics (measures of faggotry) 5. We must return to being a lean mean fighting machine, reintroduce the Audi Murphy assault courses, enforce the PT standards, do away with PC bullshit 6. Remove all non-military forces from the military. They suck our budget dry, they make us weak, and make us a partisan force. 7. Remove all Muslims from Service, introduce a real Army Force Protection Policy that enforces killing the Enemy 8. Create new "Fantasyland" where this becomes possible. |
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8. A CiC who cares about this country. 9. The Army Values must not just be taught, they must be followed. Honesty is an Army value Beat me to it by a mile. |
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They're not trying to, they are, and they will get cut further. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I was thinking more of a draft to keep force levels consistent and not of OMFGWTFBBQ war draft. They're trying to CUT force levels... They're not trying to, they are, and they will get cut further. Splitting hairs. While you're correct, it didn't require a post. |
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You thought the administration had some vested interest in STOPPING illegal immigration? My friend, they want to INCREASE it as much as possible. How else will they destroy traditional American culture and usher in a new era of Marxism? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How about we just pull our military out of everything else and bring them all home, spend the money here, spend all that savings on stacking deep and new tech designs. Speak softly with a big stick. IMO they would be much more useful on our Southern border than they are for example in SK DMZ. You thought the administration had some vested interest in STOPPING illegal immigration? My friend, they want to INCREASE it as much as possible. How else will they destroy traditional American culture and usher in a new era of Marxism? it's all about the electoral college. Illegals get counted in the census. you get more representatives and electoral votes when you have more illegals. That they are being sent to democrat states tells you all you need to know. |
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All of these seven "needs" amount to one thing: they want more money.
Part of the Army's mission should be to live within its budget, and make the best of it. Defense budgets are set by national consensus (taking into account all national needs) and not by a particular service's wish list. Because we have civilian control, defense budgets are set by our elected representatives, and not by the military brass. |
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1. More MRE Poundcake.
2. Declare US Domestic bases as sovereign Federal property which means PX pricing for liquor/cigarettes for everybody. Plus casinos, of course. What happens on Benning stays on Benning. 3. Casual Dress Fridays. 4. Suck Pay. The more it sucks, the more it pays. 5. Corporate sponsorship of naming rights. FOBs, Tanks, Humvees, etc. It is all fun and games until the Bud Light® M1 Abrams levels your village. 6. MRE Pizza that is good. It can be done. If we can go to the Moon we can make MRE Pizza. Put in self-chilling beer and you got yourself one hell of an MRE. 7. Bearskin hats. They are awesome even if they probably get itchy. |
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1. More MRE Poundcake. 2. Declare US Domestic bases as sovereign Federal property which means PX pricing for liquor/cigarettes for everybody. Plus casinos, of course. What happens on Benning stays on Benning. 3. Casual Dress Fridays. 4. Suck Pay. The more it sucks, the more it pays. 5. Corporate sponsorship of naming rights. FOBs, Tanks, Humvees, etc. It is all fun and games until the Bud Light® M1 Abrams levels your village. 6. MRE Pizza that is good. It can be done. If we can go to the Moon we can make MRE Pizza. Put in self-chilling beer and you got yourself one hell of an MRE. 7. Bearskin hats. They are awesome even if they probably get itchy. View Quote Hell, I'd re-up for that! |
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1. More MRE Poundcake. 2. Declare US Domestic bases as sovereign Federal property which means PX pricing for liquor/cigarettes for everybody. Plus casinos, of course. What happens on Benning stays on Benning. 3. Casual Dress Fridays. 4. Suck Pay. The more it sucks, the more it pays. 5. Corporate sponsorship of naming rights. FOBs, Tanks, Humvees, etc. It is all fun and games until the Bud Light® M1 Abrams levels your village. 6. MRE Pizza that is good. It can be done. If we can go to the Moon we can make MRE Pizza. Put in self-chilling beer and you got yourself one hell of an MRE. 7. Bearskin hats. They are awesome even if they probably get itchy. View Quote Cheesebeast for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs!!!!! |
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The US Army: an HR department that occasionally kills people.
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1. More MRE Poundcake. 2. Declare US Domestic bases as sovereign Federal property which means PX pricing for liquor/cigarettes for everybody. Plus casinos, of course. What happens on Benning stays on Benning. 3. Casual Dress Fridays. 4. Suck Pay. The more it sucks, the more it pays. 5. Corporate sponsorship of naming rights. FOBs, Tanks, Humvees, etc. It is all fun and games until the Bud Light® M1 Abrams levels your village. 6. MRE Pizza that is good. It can be done. If we can go to the Moon we can make MRE Pizza. Put in self-chilling beer and you got yourself one hell of an MRE. 7. Bearskin hats. They are awesome even if they probably get itchy. View Quote |
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1. More MRE Poundcake. 2. Declare US Domestic bases as sovereign Federal property which means PX pricing for liquor/cigarettes for everybody. Plus casinos, of course. What happens on Benning stays on Benning. 3. Casual Dress Fridays. 4. Suck Pay. The more it sucks, the more it pays. 5. Corporate sponsorship of naming rights. FOBs, Tanks, Humvees, etc. It is all fun and games until the Bud Light® M1 Abrams levels your village. 6. MRE Pizza that is good. It can be done. If we can go to the Moon we can make MRE Pizza. Put in self-chilling beer and you got yourself one hell of an MRE. 7. Bearskin hats. They are awesome even if they probably get itchy. View Quote Number 4 has been in place for decades. |
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8. A CiC who cares about this country. 9. The Army Values must not just be taught, they must be followed. Honesty is an Army value Beat me to it by a mile. I understand the culture/bureaucracy that breeds this paradox, however, it does not mean that I am or ever was ok with it. While it may be very naive to believe this situation would actually change within the higher/lower echelons of Army leadership, I will always despise that the honor that should exist has been replaced with honor among thieves. |
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All of these seven "needs" amount to one thing: they want more money. Part of the Army's mission should be to live within its budget, and make the best of it. Defense budgets are set by national consensus (taking into account all national needs) and not by a particular service's wish list. Because we have civilian control, defense budgets are set by our elected representatives, and not by the military brass. View Quote Part of the problem is that the DoD budget is not just about national defense, it's a jobs program. As a general rule the service doesn't get the choice to live within it's means, as they are forced to keep unnecessary bases and equipment lines operational to appease home districts. |
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Part of the problem is that the DoD budget is not just about national defense, it's a jobs program. As a general rule the service doesn't get the choice to live within it's means, as they are forced to keep unnecessary bases and equipment lines operational to appease home districts. View Quote Nor are the services allowed to set compensation. |
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