I've chewed ass at work.

Today?  If you look at the wrong person with a grumpy face they will run off to HR.  Better to just write down the facts of their transgression, make them sign it, and put it in a folder...with a smile.

you've never had a professional ass chewing, have ya?
90% of the time the sound never exceeds the tone of a normal conversation..though there may well be some peaks and valley's.
generally starting with

What in the blue fuck were you thinking when you did _________ that was the stupidest fucking decisions I have seen made in
40 plus years of doing this bullshite that allows me to bring home a paycheck....You pull this shite one more time and your ass will
be out the door on greased skids with my boot heel print in it 1/2 mile deep. Your Mamma may think you're special by I just think you're
an annoying fuck who is out to shit in my oatmeal and I am NOT going to allow that to happen. Now get back to work you useless pain in my ass and
Never let me catch you pulling this horsesheite again...Do You Understand me Nancy boy? Dismissed, and be glad I didn't kick your ass..

Chef

Oh yes.  And it happens to employees frequently

Please see my comment about people who need to curse in order to convey a point. They lack communication skills and come across as uneducated.

which is another reason why I retired.

I had a job running 150 cocktail waitress' the first 3 months I must have spent 1/2 my days in H.R.
in my 2nd year 10 out of 12 employee of the month awards went to my girls, The first time in 20 years ANY cocktail server
was awarded this and the winner of the employee of the year was one of my ladies, a prize worth 10K..
and trust me, I did a dozen dressing downs a week...bitches be needin it...

Yesh, the norm if u screw up.

lol no. You don't scream at me. I don't scream at you. If we are going to be unprofessional then get to do it too. No way I sit there and take it.

uh huh suuureee. Then again a kitchen is not a professional place.

thank you, then I have succeeded in proving my point..

when I was a Chef, training, teaching, managing 10 to 40 alpha males playing with fire and knives, 1/2 of them stoned on one drug or another
at times and most being under educated gypsy's, tramps, thieves and pirates, street language and threats of great harm are the final solution to
either educating them with the knowledge you'll rip out their throats in a heartbeat or usually the final solution to the actual termination that is inevitable .
IN a white color situation or dealing with women or beta males its a whole nother story...but you knew that with your superior education, knowledge and
general good feelies..

An ass chewing should be given where no one else can hear it but maybe see it. If done properly the subject of the ass chewing should be visibly shaken even though voices were never raised giving the ass chewing.
If done right that should be the end of the problem. If it doesn't work, show them the door.
Giving an ass chewing publicly and with a raised voice causes problems and is generally ineffective.
I don't care to waste my time and try to use methods that work.
I have physically escorted a Middle East employee to the door for harassing a female worker. Talking to him was a waste after he started yelling so I literally threw him out. Yelling is disruptive to the workplace and throws everyone for a loop. Try to avoid it.

Excuse me?

An ass chewing doesn't mean to scream or curse. It's a stern talking to with a warning that if you do it again, you can and will be looking for a new job.

V

P.s. man up people.

LOL

Obviously you don't deal with field issues on a construction site often.

Get back to us after you deal with a union rodbuster steward or a whiney assed electrical foreman or possibly a lazy concrete contractor.

That pretty much covers it.

They're not unknown, but they take place behind closed doors.  In public, generally no.

Yes but never publicly.

Yes.

No. Because of feels...

Praise in public punish in private.

I will not dress down one of my team in the cube farm but I will call them down the hall if they need counseling and per HR i will document it and provide acceptable solutions.

Yep. I also don't think I could go an hour without hearing an off color joke, profanity, and/or innuendo.

I used to work in Live TV...Ass chewings were considered acceptable ..folks usually didn't take it personally

No. I mean no man, uh-uh.  

it should be.... whats the alternative? straight up firing?


while being deployed.... we had a no drinking policy at camp shelby miss.... the drinking policy seemed to change every few days, but whatever..... on this weekend, it was absolutely no drinking allowed. if you went off post, absolutely no drinking allowed.. i believe the actual word from our company commander was.... bat commander says no drinking... so dont drink..... if your with someone.. dont let them drink.  

about midnight, we had some guys come back from town... and one straight up was staggering, slurring his words, and stank of booze......so, we had about 6 guys all guilty, of either

1. drinking..... therefore breaking a lawful order..
2. allowing their battle buddies to drink..... and even worse... OVER DRINK... which was a failure on their part.

total drunk guy claimed he only had one beer.... just like all his buddies..... ( so he accidently ratted out everyone as drinking)....    everyone finally admitted to drinking " one beer"........ drunk guy eventually admitted to drinking several beers.. ( 72 0z beers)   those big boots. fine, whatever..

so.. wut do?   give everyone counseling statements???   give them extra duty, or article 15's?    we could probably have done all of that. but that generates paperwork..... which makes the soldier look bad... which takes away money, which makes us NCO's look bad...... which makes the company commander look bad, etc, etc..

my solution..... " hey, lets smoke those guys on the parade field, in that big assed mud hole...... run them ragged, and put them to bed exhausted, and dicks in the dirt'.

platoon sgt.... sweet !  good idea.... we punish them in house.... and its all over... tomorrow we will forget it ever happened.

so, we smoke those guys in the mud, at midnight, for probably 2 hours......... make them low crawl thru the mud in uniform..... do pt, 4 man push ups, etc..  better than a article 15... right?? losing money AND rank??

wrong.... the next day we ALL ( all the nco's involved)  get called to see the batallion commander...... because we were " hazing, and picking on our soldiers"  little cry baby cocksuckers.   the batallion commander wanted to know why we did it..... we all declined to say... we just said they were bad boys, and we figured that was better than paperwork, and losing rank... and how it might make the bat commander look...  he tells us to not " pick on the little soldiers anymore", and to get the fuck out of his office......

we get back to the barracks, and all 6 of those guys were standing around with smug little smirks on their faces..   we actually tried to HELP those fuckers..... and they fucked us for it..

so... guess whos names we " suggested" for every bathroom scrubbing..... range detail... police call... kp duty..... and anything else we could find for them to do for a month?? yup.. those 6 assholes. we also threw them under the bus the next weekend.. when drinking was allowed...... by telling the company, that since we had several " unnamed" bad boys who drank last weekend.... no one was drinking this weekend..... which got them all the cold shoulder that weekend and the entire next week..

so yes..... sometimes a ass chewing, is better than a papertrail.... your buddy might go to HR, and bitch he was talked to in a angry tone.... and in return, they might decide to fire him, for whatever it was he did... because his boss tried to keep it " in house'.

It's largely a sign of the times.  40 years ago, jobs were something you held for 20 years.  Most people had one or two jobs in their twenties, and then a career for the rest of their lives.  They were loyal to their company, and by and large their company was loyal to them.  Now, it is not uncommon for people to switch jobs every few years.  Companies do not even stop for a moment before laying off employees, or outsources, etc...  Corporatism has killed employee loyalty, so that many workers would be likely to quit, rather than be berated in an aggressive fashion.


 

I think the term "ass chewing" implies someone going completely ballistic on you or another person for some wrong doing. I don't believe in the typical ass chewing myself and can get my point across extremely well without raising my voice.

However , the owner of the company has a tendency to lash out at people and we , the management team, often describe our meetings as the "whack a mole game" when this happens. The bad thing is if there are ass chewing's all the time or in our case whack a mole , then people will stop taking risks and speaking up.

a ass chewing in general should be done in private...... and it should be done in a normal tone of conversation.

the only times iv ever actually " screamed" at someone, was when someone was doing something extra stupid / dangerous.   two privates picking up a loaded m60 machine gun, by the tripod... and carrying the loaded gun, by the tripod 6 positions over..... yeah, they got screamed at... "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FUCKSTICKS DOING ?!?!?!?! "


also, ass chewings in general only work with people who have self control..... and some common sense...

iv had my ass chewed before... and it was for something stupid i did..... so, i felt dumb, for doing the bad thing, and i felt guilty for allowing myself be a dumbass.... and i knew i deserved a ass chewing.

try to chew some guys ass who has zero self control, and thinks they are smarter than you... and the world revolves around them..... they  dont believe they did anything wrong for xx reason... they feel they dont deserve a ass chewing... they feel your not good enough to chew their ass, as they are better than you anyway.... and they take it personally, and hold a grudge, and even sometimes attempt revenge, such as keying your car, etc.   some people your just better off firing....

. i ONLY want to work around people who are reliable, have self control, and who are not prone to do stupid things, and have enough professionalism that they feel bad, or mad at themselves for doing something dumb.. luckily thats mostly the kind of people i have worked with in my life... the dumbasses who think they are better than you... usually cant handle criticism and quit or get fired.

Define ass chewing... my current sup thinks that screaming and pounding on the desk is the only way to get his point across.

He'll do it on a daily basis. What's the point of that dumb shit?

I might actually take him serious if he could express his opinions like an effing adult.

Oh fuck that.

And I agree.  I've had jobs where my management style was "figure out who would get it done without question and try to fire everyone else, every day."  (I documented EVERYTHING they did wrong.  1 minute late?  Document.  1 piece short of production quota?  Document.  Not immediately doing what was asked?  Document.  Not doing every single safety thing right (and some were stupid, but whatever)?  Document.  Anything that I could get on them was documented.  They hated me, and I wanted them to.

If I can't get it done by being blunt and laying out expectations, I'll get it done by threatening their jobs every day.  I honestly don't give a fuck.  It's the world we live in, so I'll play the game.  What's that saying?  Don't hate the player, hate the game?  Well, THEY created this game, I just play it better.

We can talk once. After that I have to do paperwork. Ass chewing is not the proper tool.

which fuck that? fuck that, as in, it was bullshit to smoke them in house, and teach them a lesson..... or fuck that, it was bullshit they ran and told on us like little kids telling mommy their teacher said they had to stand in the corner and it hurt their feels?


i had one guy.... EVERYONE hated him.... i mean everyone hated him... no shit...

i was in charge of him, so i had to counsel him...... and counseling usually alwways works the same way..

general counseling... you did a great job on this... this... this.. and this.... ( but there ALWAYS has to be some you need improving on).... so you put some general bullshit...   " you need to shine your boots a little brighter.... or, you need to work a little on your pt, because reaching the minimum, is not really good enough, you need to shoot for a higher pt score.

concur, or nonconcur.... and if you dont concur.. you have that little box where you can write your reasons for not agreeing...

not this little bastard..... you could say... you did a great job ! ths, this, this and this was EXCELLENT....... however, you need to work on your hand and arm signals, as i noticed you did a few wrong.

he wound circle nonconcur...... then... fill that box with comments... and then... staple a 2-5 page front and back letter...... 2-5 pages, typed .. front and back.. about

1. about he didnt have that issue.
2. not only didnt he have that issue..... he was the best hand and arm signal man in the military... and has actually invented several of those signals..
3. he was so far above you, his supervisor, in intelligence, professionalism, and military things, you were not qualified to wipe his ass... much less counsel him....
4. not only did you, his team leader suck... and suck bad.... but hiw squad leader was a retard, and should be relieved.....
5. the platoon sergeant was a totally worthless clueless moron, and him... the specialist, with 10 years service.. was far, far, far, more technically proficient than that worthless e-7 with 20 years service.
6. and he was so superior.... the company commander would be a total IDIOT to not immediately promote him to sgt, and place him in charge of the entire platoon at once.....

( and this was how that little fucker acted for a GOOD counseling statement)

he would also copy the statement.... and his attached letters...... he kept them all in a file.... he also carried a notebook in his pocket at all times, and the second ANYONE hurt his feelings, or dod something he considered " wrong" or ANYTHING he thought the company commander should know about... he would write it in his notebook. he had approx 1 dozen totally filled notebooks in iraq full of shit like.

1405 hrs.... specialist thompson called me a " fucking retard"... he was totally without any military bearing.
1515 hrs..... sergeant askins ordered me to guard the hummer, and mounted crew served weapons.. while the others went to chow.  he only made me do it, cause im white and hes black...
1600........... private wilco  was smoking in a non smiking area..
1630........... the company commander drove past the company area and he was OBVIOUSLY driving over the speed limit...
1645............ i saw the batallion commander leaving his office early.. wearing civilian clothes...... he should set a example for the other troops.

he would also write 2-5 page letters detailing how the platoon sergeant was a idiot, and go into great detail about all the bad and wrong things all the incompetent nco's did during the day, and he would slide it under the commanders door, after duty hours... "  anonymously" ....

Fuck that as in, what a bunch of pussy assholes to rat you out for figuring out how to deal with the situation without a paper trail.  That sort of thing was commonplace when I was in (smoking, etc), and was accepted as part of being a soldier.  Paperwork would fuck with your promotions, etc.  Smoking just sucked, but it was over when it was over.

Did more than I would have. I would have used a micro probe and pH meter and used the full amount. But thenn again I've never had a boss care how I did what needed doing just that it was done on time and correctly.

That what you pay me for to know those things.

Totally depends on the ass chewing.

Is the ass chewing the result of some hot heading jack wagon that enjoys belittling people to assert his dominance  ..or a private talking to with constructive purpose?

I've worked in places that was staffed by a bunch of crabby people always chewing each other out.  It was a hostile shithole of a work environment.  Completely different from my current employer who doesn't put up with that shit.  Seen a few 'ass-chewers' get escorted off the property.

Your distant friend is a shitbird if he's going to HR because he fucked up and got called on it.  As long as it wasn't a humiliation and/or done in front of others, it's perfectly legit to me.  

Of course, I work for the Marine Corps...

Nope. Management can't even do their job anymore.
Also, HR came out with a reg that states you can not stare or look at a person for more than 6 seconds because that constitutes harassment.

I've had my share of screw-ups. As bad as my job has been in the past, they've been very gracious about screw-ups. They've been stern, but no real ass chewing. I've never heard any manager do any yelling at my job in the 10 years I've been here. Perhaps out on the production floor, but not in the office anyway.

I just gave a whole crew a mild ass reaming.

Usually, I practice "praise in public, reprimand in private", but when the whole crew is complicit, I will make my displeasure known.


Coaching, teaching, ass chewing; they are all part of training a crew and of weeding out the chaff.

Before I retired (major sized chemical/science company) it was pretty well accepted that only management type folks on the male side of the species got ass chewings.

Chew out an hourly employee and they might call the corporate complaint number and then management would have to go through interviews to explain/justify why they hurt someone's feelings and treated them disrespectfully.  Chewing out a female could be even worse.

Management males were no issue.  They'd just laugh at you if you complained you were chewed out, treated disrespectfully, etc. and you'd catch hell on your next performance review.

You either toe the line and kiss ass, or you decide you're a man and they can all kiss your ass because you're going to do the right thing.  If those above you decide to drop their head and tuck their tail between their legs that's up to them.  You still made your recommendations and you can sleep well at night knowing you did the right thing.

Then, if you're like me, you smile at the guys above you and nod your head every time the trouble make they refused to discipline screws up something else.  It's a personality defect.  I won't say I couldn't help it.  I refused to help it.

American business/industry is doing themselves terrible damage with all the PC bullshit.  It will continue as long as profits are good.  Once they find no other way to maintain profits, the companies that survive this stupid shit will start moving back towards holding people accountable for their actions/performance.

we document that as " Verbal Counseling"

I knew someone that worked at another company in town and had a story about one of the upper managers sending an email to another manager under him. He blasted the guy in the email and CCed the whole damn company. That's pretty stupid and immature imho and does nothing for morale. Incidentally this division of the company isn't doing well. Personally, if that upper manager worked under me, he'd be getting a nice ass chewing himself. There is no place for that sort of childish thing.

its not  you need no special skill or knowledge to get ajob in any kitchen anywhere. Its not a professional place.

then this...from above,


when I was a Chef, training, teaching, managing 10 to 40 alpha males playing with fire and knives, 1/2 of them stoned on one drug or another
at times and most being under educated gypsy's, tramps, thieves and pirates, street language and threats of great harm are the final solution to
either educating them with the knowledge you'll rip out their throats in a heartbeat or usually the final solution to the actual termination that is inevitable .
IN a white color situation or dealing with women or beta males its a whole nother story...but you knew that with your superior education, knowledge and
general good feelies..


nope.

Sorry to burst your bubble. You may feel its a professional place/job but I at least certainly don't. I don't think an "Alpha" (whatever the hell that is is "stoned on one drug or another at times and most being under educated gypsy's, tramps, thieves and pirates." certainly no professional is like that.

So.. nope.

To have a professional place you need professional PEOPLE. and if this is what you work with no that place was not it.

This. Wise old boss, former Army captain once told me never yell at the people who work for you. It's lazy, shows lack of self control and is self serving. Ask yourself what you're really getting across:

1. I'm pissed off and want you to know it. But I'm not going to tell you how to fix it.

2. Here's where you made a mistake, and here's how to correct it and avoid it in the future.

There's a difference between having a hard talk/critical conversation and just throwing a temper tantrum and yelling at someone.

The "Stop fucking up, you're going to be fired if this continues" conversation happens here. We don't yell, there's no need for that.

If there's a problem, try to correct it. If it persists the individual is let go. Lots of money is at stake.

go back and read what i added..... about that 10 year spc.....  

that was the kid who no shit... would get beaten up every. single. national guard drill... every. single. one.. im amazed someone didnt just shoot him in iraq.. EVERYONE hated him... it was not due to bullying either... he went out of his way to piss you off, and get you to want to hit in.... iv had random military people come talk to me.. and him show up and talk for 5 minutes, and as soon as he leaves, they were like. " who the fuck was that? damn i wanted to slap him so badly it hurt... how do you tolerate that little asshole?

the MORE you learned about him.. the less you liked him as well... it was like some super power the kid had...

heres a example...

 you remember the movie " team america" ??    remember the scene, where gary... to get back into the team, had to suck spottswoods cock... to prove he was serious about wanting to come back to the team?   we were watching team america as a platoon...... tthat scene happened.... gary dropped down and sucked spottswoods dick...... and from behind us... the kid everyone hated says.  " yeah, i know how that feels".

everyone was like....  WTF?!?!

later the kid told someone what happened.

1. his girlfriend ran away to texas..... and was fucking some mexican guy.... she was gone for 6 months.
2. 6 months later... she calls him crying... she wants to come back.. but she needed 200 bucks or something for a bus ticket...
3. kid goes to his girlfriends UNCLES house...... hey, sally wants to come back, but i dont have the $200..... could you loan it to me for a month??
4. uncle..... yeah.. iv got the $200, right here in my pocket.... but what in it for me??
5. kid..... well, what do you want?
6. uncle...... i want you to suck my dick...... suck my dick, and ill LOAN you the money.. you can pay me back when you get paid.
7. kid...... well, ok..... and he sucks the uncles dick.... to get money, to get his dirty cheating girlfriend back home..... and she immediately went to some other guys house when she got back to town..... and the kid had to repay the uncle , whos dick he sucked... the $200...

it was nonstop stories like this..... along with his superiority complex....  that made him a absolute MISERY to work with.

I agree that an ass-chewing is needed now and then, but it sure isn't acceptable where I work. Simply raising your voice will get you a spanking from HR.

This.
I have gotten my ass chewed on a handful of times over my 45 years of working.
That's something that can happen over the years and I have always accpted it and tried not to screw up again.
Unfortunately there is and always will be that occaisional member of management that will resort to yelling and cursing at the employee.
And those people will be told very quickly to FO.
That has happened to me exactly once and the supervisor was written up and eventually fired for doing the same thing again months later to another person.

A guy at our shop quit last year after  he witnessed a coworker getting an ass chewing.
The funny thing is he joined the Army about 3 months later.

I've met a few of those.

My supervisor was one of them.  Little guy syndrome through and through.  I didn't mind the duty related stuff he'd tell me to do....that's his job.  But this guy would go out of his way to find reasons to pull rank that were humiliating, for no good reason, to troops who were regarded as some of the better ones on our flight.  

I'd have understood if he was doing that shit to the idiots who couldn't get their shit together, but he was doing it to people who would have done a good job if nobody in the world would ever even know the job even got done.  For him, it was about the power game.

I didn't rat him out until he tried to get me hemmed up for threatening him.  (He called me to his office and asked me of my opinion about him.  He's a NCO.  So I said "Sir, I don't wish to answer that question because I don't want to get into trouble."  As in, "I don't have anything good to say about you, and if I open my mouth you are going to take that as disrespecting a NCO and give me paperwork.")  A stand up NCO who would take what I said and leave it at that?  Sure.  I'd tell them.  But this guy was a slimy, manipulative, not trustworthy piece of work.  Anything you said to him, you better have edited it for anything he could use against you, anything at all, would come back around on you.)  In the end, I walked out of that mess without a problem.  I've told this story before.  This is the same douche that tried to get some wall-to-wall counseling on me, but couldn't hold his own and got knocked the fuck out.  My entire flight patted me on the back for that one, he got yelled at by leadership, and nobody said a word to me.  I didn't dime him out for that one either.  I figured his getting KO'd (without a punch thrown) was enough.

cant handle a coworker getting a ass chewing..... so he joins the military, and heads to basic....  i doubt he would experience that in the military.