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Posted: 10/12/2015 11:25:51 AM EDT
I am awaiting my new pistol.  I ordered a Nighthawk Warhawk Recon that should be here this week.  
The recon means it has a rail.  I am looking into a rail mounted light.  There are many to choose from.  

What would the best one be?
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:27:02 AM EDT
[#1]
Surefire.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:29:56 AM EDT
[#2]
StreamLight
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:30:23 AM EDT
[#3]
I have an Inforce APL on my SIG.  I like it quite a bit.  Nice and bright with easy to work controls.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:31:07 AM EDT
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Made in RI
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:32:41 AM EDT
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streamlights are badass, i have 2 and am entirely pleased with them
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:33:31 AM EDT
[#6]
I like TLR-1s. Never used a Surefire but I'm sure it's good too. Personally, I do not want a 6,000 lumen light on my HD gun. Good way to blind yourself.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:41:28 AM EDT
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I went X300. Frankly, I think the only real advantage that Streamlights in general offer over Surefire is that "rechargeable" is cheaper in general to feed than "CR123."

That's a huge advantage in a handheld general-purpose light, but not all that important in a dedicated weapon-mounted light.

Oh, and IBT "I don't believe in weapon lights" people. And edit because I like my account too much.

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Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:48:26 AM EDT
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In reference to the poll:

  • The Surefire is the best light.

  • The Streamlight is the best value.

Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:56:16 AM EDT
[#9]
Ive owned both. I honestly dont think the Surefire is worth the premium over the Streamlight.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 11:59:32 AM EDT
[#10]
If you can afford a Nighthawk don't put a streamlight on it.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:00:06 PM EDT
[#11]
Surefire

Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:00:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:00:31 PM EDT
[#13]
Surefire.. Your pistol will thank me.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:02:37 PM EDT
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No shit? I voted x300. I may need to find an inforce if they're local.

Great thing about modern wml is that they actually light up the entire state.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:04:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Streamlight can be had for about $90 if you shop around, so there's that.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:04:44 PM EDT
[#16]
hellfighter.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:09:28 PM EDT
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I have a couple surefire and a couple streamlights. The streamlights stay on pistols and the surefires stay on rifles.

The operation of the streamlight is much easier with one finger while using it on a handgun where the surefire mechanism is too stiff to use as easily. But on a rifle the surefire is awesome because of the momentary feature where you just push on the mechanism rather than actually flipping it, and by flipping it either way, it's constant.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:17:14 PM EDT
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My vote.

Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:17:59 PM EDT
[#19]
Streamlight

Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:24:30 PM EDT
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Stream light gets my vote
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:28:15 PM EDT
[#21]
+1 for Streamlight.  They're excellent lights, and are cheaper than surefire.

My TLR-1 HL is mind-boggling in terms of light-output.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:33:36 PM EDT
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I've got 4 or 5 X300s and no more TLR's, so....



I like the X300s for the switch if nothing else - the push forward for momentary is more intuitive for me than the "up for on and down for momentary" of the TLR series.





Both solid lights, try both controls and see what blows your skirt up...
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:40:22 PM EDT
[#23]
Surefire X300
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:41:55 PM EDT
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Quoted for truth.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:44:23 PM EDT
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Surefire.
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Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:46:30 PM EDT
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Surefire X300 and X300U
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:46:43 PM EDT
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FWIW, I had two TLR-1s crap out on me. Both times Streamlight replaced them free of charge, and got it out back to me within a week. I've never had to use Surefire's CS...as the X300 and X300u have both functioned without issues.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:48:34 PM EDT
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Surefire X300U

Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:50:14 PM EDT
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I can get on board with this.

Bought multiple streamlights for what one surefire would have cost me.

I like them and they're working well, but I admittedly do not abuse them like some folks would.  Mine get mostly night stand duty and occasional (once a month-ish) low light shooting.  They've held up great to that.  If you're going to be harder on it, might be worth it to go surefire.

I have a holster I need to finish fixing that will let me carry a G19+TLR 1 for EDC.  Curious to see how it holds up if I go that route.



Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:50:47 PM EDT
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Surefire X300U-B

Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:52:54 PM EDT
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  • The Streamlight is the best value.




For real.
That having been said:

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If you can afford a Nighthawk don't put a streamlight on it.

Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:54:43 PM EDT
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For real.
That having been said:


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  • The Streamlight is the best value.




For real.
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If you can afford a Nighthawk don't put a streamlight on it.


I'd agree here too.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:55:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:57:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2015 12:58:44 PM EDT
[#35]
TLR-1HL because it will melt your eyeballs in broad daylight.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 1:00:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2015 1:03:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2015 1:05:37 PM EDT
[#38]
X300 if you want to see what you are shooting, X300U if you want to melt what you are shooting
 
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 1:16:08 PM EDT
[#39]
I prefer Surefire for handheld lights and Streamlight for weapon (pistol)-mounted.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 1:40:23 PM EDT
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I have multiple TLR1s and an X400 IRc, both are great. Surefires grip switches are vastly superior to Streamlights grip switches but Streamlights toggle switches are better then Surefires toggle switches in my opinion. You can't go wrong with either.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 2:10:12 PM EDT
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You might want to look at Surefires XC1. I ordered one last week but haven't received it yet, so I can't comment on its quality. I have a TLR1s, and its a good light but kind of big for a CC gun. Its on my AR now.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 2:13:55 PM EDT
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APL
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 2:18:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2015 2:20:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2015 2:31:41 PM EDT
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I have both.  I prefer the Streamlight.  Only advantage of Surefire is slightly lower profile.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 2:33:34 PM EDT
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Inforce APL
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 2:36:02 PM EDT
[#47]
Me likey some TLR-1.
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 2:47:03 PM EDT
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I think Surefire's new little XC-1 might be a real game-changa.

Link Posted: 10/12/2015 3:13:45 PM EDT
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I think it'll likely make a fantastic concealed carry light, but not replace the X or TLR series as duty lights...


Mine should be here tomorrow or the next day (Got in on the pre-release sale from Raven Concealment back in August, got the shipping notice this morning...)
Link Posted: 10/12/2015 3:24:16 PM EDT
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yep i learned that the hard way. anything really over 500lm is too much for a cqb light indoors.
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TLR-1HL because it will melt your eyeballs in broad daylight.


That bright is not always a good or smart choice. Splash back becomes a problem, especially in tight spaces like houses. There is such a thing as too bright.


yep i learned that the hard way. anything really over 500lm is too much for a cqb light indoors.


I think it really depends on your technique. If you blip and move maybe, but I leave mine on while processing a space and have had zero problems with 1k lumens from a P3X even in tight single wides with white walls. There's also a 2,500 lumen X300 variant currently being field tested with excellent reviews.

IMO people worry too much about "having too much light" when in actual low light encounters "I wish I'd had more light" seems to be far more common.
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