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Posted: 10/11/2015 11:52:23 AM EDT
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Doing extensive studies into this subject throughout college, including interviewing eye witnesses, I determined that nobody knows what caused the shooting, even witnesses So it may have been justified. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In arguements for second amendment rights pictures of the nazis assassinating citizens frequently are used. While justifiably so and very powerful, perhaps reminding liberals of the Kent state shooting might be another angle they haven't seen or forgotten about, something that happened on a college campus (one of their safe zones) and clearly shows what an armed government will do to suppress a populace. Doing extensive studies into this subject throughout college, including interviewing eye witnesses, I determined that nobody knows what caused the shooting, even witnesses So it may have been justified. They may have been justified to defend themselves, but they were poorly equipped both mentally and physically to do so in an appropriate manner. Ultimately, people who had NOTHING to do with the protests were killed. We've learned a lot about protest and riot management since then. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 11:53:02 AM EDT
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I heard the NG just recently returned from Vietnam. True or false? |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 11:54:54 AM EDT
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#1, Carbines, #2, IIRC nobody that was hit was actually a part of the group hassling the NG guys..in fact one of the victims was an ROTC cadet walking to class well AWAY from the protest Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bunch of dudes with M14's smoked a bunch of hippies........one day I'll be outraged. #1, Carbines, #2, IIRC nobody that was hit was actually a part of the group hassling the NG guys..in fact one of the victims was an ROTC cadet walking to class well AWAY from the protest Ok, I might be missing something. It's been a really long time since I've heard this topic discussed. I'll go do some more research. I withdraw my previous statement. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 11:58:53 AM EDT
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Would you believe we had an intern working for us that was a student at Kent State, and had no idea this shooting occurred? It came up when we were listening to CSNY - Ohio (a song he had never heard before either).
Definitely a WTF moment for me, at the time. We seriously had to direct him to Wikipedia, because he was completely oblivious to this event. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:00:36 PM EDT
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It's the equivalent of we think you committed a crime, so we'll grenade your house so we don't get hurt doing our jobs. Good bit of due process there right?
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:03:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only on arfcom will you hear people defend the government for shooting protestors. #freespeechexceptforhippies You guys sicketate me. Hippies don't get to burn down buildings. Game on, shoot on sight, under those circumstances would be my preference. That said, you have to have troops trained above Keystone cops standards, which the Guard of that era was not. If they would have shot protestors and not random students because they didn't take into consideration secondary zones, I would have no problem with it. My only beef is shooting the wrong people. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:07:38 PM EDT
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Tin soldiers and Nixon coming....
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:10:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the equivalent of we think you committed a crime, so we'll grenade your house so we don't get hurt doing our jobs. Good bit of due process there right? Just because you say it's the equivalent doesn't make it so. It's actually pretty far from being the circumstance you use in your analogy. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:13:21 PM EDT
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No fuck's given. Those protest types (kent, Ferguson, LA) would gladly destroy every aspect of normal life in a hissy fit of rage because they will never fit into society. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arfcom doesn't believe in free speech, free assembly, or protest when it's executed by those they disagree with, sorry OP. No fuck's given. Those protest types (kent, Ferguson, LA) would gladly destroy every aspect of normal life in a hissy fit of rage because they will never fit into society. We do not fit into society now... |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:32:01 PM EDT
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I think a better example of 'the government is not to be trusted' is to look at the Tuskegee Study where poor blacks were given burial insurance and 'free medical care' but actually were allowed to have syphilis and go untreated to see how long it would take for them to die. This went on all the way into the 1970s. Or the secret and forced sterilization of poor women and Native American women, which also went on into the 1970s. If a government will say they are going to do a routine medical check and instead sterilize a woman, not just once but possibly 10,000 times, you really want to trust them to be the only ones with guns? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In arguements for second amendment rights pictures of the nazis assassinating citizens frequently are used. While justifiably so and very powerful, perhaps reminding liberals of the Kent state shooting might be another angle they haven't seen or forgotten about, something that happened on a college campus (one of their safe zones) and clearly shows what an armed government will do to suppress a populace. If a government will say they are going to do a routine medical check and instead sterilize a woman, not just once but possibly 10,000 times, you really want to trust them to be the only ones with guns? Interestingly enough, there are people here who support eugenics as well. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:37:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Don't start no shit, won't be no shit"? What an asinine assertion to support. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The hippies were throwing rocks, molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the NG, they also set fire to a few buildings. Rumor has it the NG was fired on first. Bottom line is don't start no shit, won't be no shit. This. Another problem was that the NG of this era wasn't very well trained, either. "Don't start no shit, won't be no shit"? What an asinine assertion to support. IIRC, Nixon started the Kent State "shit" with the invasion of Cambodia. Kent State was a small part of a shitshow that didn't end until Reagan was elected. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:39:29 PM EDT
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Ok, I might be missing something. It's been a really long time since I've heard this topic discussed. I'll go do some more research. I withdraw my previous statement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bunch of dudes with M14's smoked a bunch of hippies........one day I'll be outraged. #1, Carbines, #2, IIRC nobody that was hit was actually a part of the group hassling the NG guys..in fact one of the victims was an ROTC cadet walking to class well AWAY from the protest Ok, I might be missing something. It's been a really long time since I've heard this topic discussed. I'll go do some more research. I withdraw my previous statement. There were folks in that "Protest" that probably needed to get shot..(Professional Agitators, and almost certainly Soviet plants).those werent the ones who got hit though. Reality was the NG had pretty much zero training in how to deal with Protests/Riots. They were in over their heads, WAY outside their ability curve, and someone panicked, causing others to open up as well. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 12:39:48 PM EDT
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It's the equivalent of we think you committed a crime, so we'll grenade your house so we don't get hurt doing our jobs. Good bit of due process there right? Not even close |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 1:07:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Don't start no shit, won't be no shit"? What an asinine assertion to support. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The hippies were throwing rocks, molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the NG, they also set fire to a few buildings. Rumor has it the NG was fired on first. Bottom line is don't start no shit, won't be no shit. This. Another problem was that the NG of this era wasn't very well trained, either. "Don't start no shit, won't be no shit"? What an asinine assertion to support.  |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 1:31:44 PM EDT
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Bunch of dudes with M14's smoked a bunch of hippies........one day I'll be outraged. History fail. 
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Posted: 10/11/2015 1:36:31 PM EDT
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We do not fit into society now... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arfcom doesn't believe in free speech, free assembly, or protest when it's executed by those they disagree with, sorry OP. No fuck's given. Those protest types (kent, Ferguson, LA) would gladly destroy every aspect of normal life in a hissy fit of rage because they will never fit into society. We do not fit into society now... Everyone wants liberty for themselves. They fantasize that government can be limited to infringing on the other guys liberty. ...if only their "team" gains control of the government. Then they are shocked when government is used against them. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 1:39:53 PM EDT
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Only on arfcom will you hear people defend the government for shooting protestors. #freespeechexceptforhippies You guys sicketate me. There is a fine line between protest and riot. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 1:42:09 PM EDT
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Everyone wants liberty for themselves. They fantasize that government can be limited to infringing on the other guys liberty. ...if only their "team" gains control of the government. Then they are shocked when government is used against them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Arfcom doesn't believe in free speech, free assembly, or protest when it's executed by those they disagree with, sorry OP. No fuck's given. Those protest types (kent, Ferguson, LA) would gladly destroy every aspect of normal life in a hissy fit of rage because they will never fit into society. We do not fit into society now... Everyone wants liberty for themselves. They fantasize that government can be limited to infringing on the other guys liberty. ...if only their "team" gains control of the government. Then they are shocked when government is used against them. Benjamin Franklin's quote about certainty of death and taxes was missing one more thing: Hypocrisy. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 2:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would you believe we had an intern working for us that was a student at Kent State, and had no idea this shooting occurred? It came up when we were listening to CSNY - Ohio (a song he had never heard before either). Definitely a WTF moment for me, at the time. We seriously had to direct him to Wikipedia, because he was completely oblivious to this event. It seems so odd to me that an adult wouldn't know at least an overview of the event and the song.  |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 2:18:30 PM EDT
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Yep, just like the support in British circles for the Bloody Sunday massacre of 13 unarmed protestors in N Ireland Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those killings are bizarrely supported here in GD Disgusting isn't it? Yep, just like the support in British circles for the Bloody Sunday massacre of 13 unarmed protestors in N Ireland No one should fall for the 'unarmed protestor' bit anymore. Plenty of evil can come out of agitators without firearms. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 2:28:09 PM EDT
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They may have been justified to defend themselves, but they were poorly equipped both mentally and physically to do so in an appropriate manner. Ultimately, people who had NOTHING to do with the protests were killed. We've learned a lot about protest and riot management since then. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In arguements for second amendment rights pictures of the nazis assassinating citizens frequently are used. While justifiably so and very powerful, perhaps reminding liberals of the Kent state shooting might be another angle they haven't seen or forgotten about, something that happened on a college campus (one of their safe zones) and clearly shows what an armed government will do to suppress a populace. Doing extensive studies into this subject throughout college, including interviewing eye witnesses, I determined that nobody knows what caused the shooting, even witnesses So it may have been justified. They may have been justified to defend themselves, but they were poorly equipped both mentally and physically to do so in an appropriate manner. Ultimately, people who had NOTHING to do with the protests were killed. We've learned a lot about protest and riot management since then. Yeah, don't shoot OVER the protesters, you will hit somebody downrange instead. By doing the guilty a favor, they killed innocents. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 2:38:18 PM EDT
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The hippies were throwing rocks, molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the NG, they also set fire to a few buildings. Rumor has it the NG was fired on first. Bottom line is don't start no shit, won't be no shit. This. Another problem was that the NG of this era wasn't very well trained, either. "Don't start no shit, won't be no shit"? What an asinine assertion to support. http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh90rbx30T1qz4axuo1_500.png I've heard a rumor that Fuck Troy is hiring. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 2:43:41 PM EDT
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It seems so odd to me that an adult wouldn't know at least an overview of the event and the song.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkg-bzTHeAk
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Would you believe we had an intern working for us that was a student at Kent State, and had no idea this shooting occurred? It came up when we were listening to CSNY - Ohio (a song he had never heard before either). Definitely a WTF moment for me, at the time. We seriously had to direct him to Wikipedia, because he was completely oblivious to this event. It seems so odd to me that an adult wouldn't know at least an overview of the event and the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkg-bzTHeAk
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Posted: 10/11/2015 2:51:29 PM EDT
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Bunch of dudes with M14's smoked a bunch of hippies........one day I'll be outraged. Bill Schroder, the ROTC student mortally wounded while walking to class 130 yards away from the Guardsmen, he was a hippy? |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 2:52:07 PM EDT
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Would you believe we had an intern working for us that was a student at Kent State, and had no idea this shooting occurred? It came up when we were listening to CSNY - Ohio (a song he had never heard before either). Definitely a WTF moment for me, at the time. We seriously had to direct him to Wikipedia, because he was completely oblivious to this event. Did you ever see his diploma? 
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Posted: 10/11/2015 2:53:41 PM EDT
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Did you ever see his diploma? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would you believe we had an intern working for us that was a student at Kent State, and had no idea this shooting occurred? It came up when we were listening to CSNY - Ohio (a song he had never heard before either). Definitely a WTF moment for me, at the time. We seriously had to direct him to Wikipedia, because he was completely oblivious to this event. Did you ever see his diploma? He hadn't graduated yet. He was a full time student there interning for us during the summer. I didn't think it was even possible, but there ya go. He was a big time Brony, too. I'm not sure if that's relevant, but it might be.
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Posted: 10/11/2015 3:00:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2015 3:03:25 PM EDT
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The hippies were throwing rocks, molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the NG, they also set fire to a few buildings. Rumor has it the NG was fired on first. Bottom line is don't start no shit, won't be no shit. Imagine that....now if the BLM started to heed this advice we would be gtg...... |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 4:49:05 PM EDT
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He hadn't graduated yet. He was a full time student there interning for us during the summer. I didn't think it was even possible, but there ya go. He was a big time Brony, too. I'm not sure if that's relevant, but it might be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would you believe we had an intern working for us that was a student at Kent State, and had no idea this shooting occurred? It came up when we were listening to CSNY - Ohio (a song he had never heard before either). Definitely a WTF moment for me, at the time. We seriously had to direct him to Wikipedia, because he was completely oblivious to this event. Did you ever see his diploma? He hadn't graduated yet. He was a full time student there interning for us during the summer. I didn't think it was even possible, but there ya go. He was a big time Brony, too. I'm not sure if that's relevant, but it might be. ...it's the rainbows and Moonbeams. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 6:05:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOne rumor puts a sniper on the roof of Prentice and opened fired. With the sound of that gunshot, the NG opened fire. There is a hole in the metal structure in front of Taylor the size of a dime, which as the story goes, is from one of the gunshots. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 6:15:56 PM EDT
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I was just there last week visiting a friend who is a freshman this year. We took half the afternoon walking around and retracing the whole event as it happened. It was fascinating to be there in person. Got lots of pics if anyone wants me to post them later.
The students that died were not that far away from the NG soldiers. I stood right where the soldiers were during the shooting looking down on the parking lot and it isn't that far. Peep site on a Garand-Easy stuff. Shot Miller through the cheek and blew his brains out. Patrick |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 6:19:13 PM EDT
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Those killings are bizarrely supported here in GD People love freedom... Till they disagree with that freedom. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 6:26:00 PM EDT
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One rumor puts a sniper on the roof of Prentice and opened fired. With the sound of that gunshot, the NG opened fire. There is a hole in the metal structure in front of Taylor the size of a dime, which as the story goes, is from one of the gunshots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
One rumor puts a sniper on the roof of Prentice and opened fired. With the sound of that gunshot, the NG opened fire. There is a hole in the metal structure in front of Taylor the size of a dime, which as the story goes, is from one of the gunshots. Probably the same sniper from behind the grassy knoll. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 6:28:14 PM EDT
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The Feds come up with that? There was an unaccounted bullet hole that didn't have a trajectory that matched the NG. The protestor also claimed they had someone with a rifle pulling overwatch |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 6:29:57 PM EDT
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This. Another problem was that the NG of this era wasn't very well trained, either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The hippies were throwing rocks, molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the NG, they also set fire to a few buildings. Rumor has it the NG was fired on first. Bottom line is don't start no shit, won't be no shit. This. Another problem was that the NG of this era wasn't very well trained, either. What shit did the ROTC cadet going to class start? |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 6:50:36 PM EDT
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A group of Motorcycle Enthusiasts, there to party with college girls....
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:13:12 PM EDT
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What happened at Kent State wasn't right. Plain and simple. You should see some of the documentary footage of government officials speaking after the shootings. A fine job of vilifying the students and BS designed to justify the killings. When the rights of an unpopular group of citizens can be violated we're all in danger. Look at the media and politicians using every tragedy involving guns to further their agenda and influence popular opinion. If enough people believe a lie they can act without the consequence of losing their jobs.
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:24:39 PM EDT
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One rumor puts a sniper on the roof of Prentice and opened fired. With the sound of that gunshot, the NG opened fire. There is a hole in the metal structure in front of Taylor the size of a dime, which as the story goes, is from one of the gunshots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
One rumor puts a sniper on the roof of Prentice and opened fired. With the sound of that gunshot, the NG opened fire. There is a hole in the metal structure in front of Taylor the size of a dime, which as the story goes, is from one of the gunshots. "One rumor" doesn't cut it as an acceptable excuse when random Americans are shot and killed right here in America by their own government. Neither does "as the story goes". |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:29:41 PM EDT
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Kent State was just the culmination of riots, bombings etc. that had been going on for what seemed like for ever. That type of stuff started with the civil rights movement, the anti-war people picked up on the protest part of it and it got increasingly violent. One of the worst was the DNC convention in Chicago. Throw in Patty Hearst and the SLA shootout and everybody was sick ANY demonstrations. The only one I liked was when the "hard hats" went on a rampage punching a bunch of draft dodging cowards in NY City. Not knowing any details (I had just got out of the Army and was painting my Dad's fence) when I heard the news flash that the NG finally starting shooting these assholes I cheered.
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:38:31 PM EDT
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"One rumor" doesn't cut it as an acceptable excuse when random Americans are shot and killed right here in America by their own government. Neither does "as the story goes". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One rumor puts a sniper on the roof of Prentice and opened fired. With the sound of that gunshot, the NG opened fire. There is a hole in the metal structure in front of Taylor the size of a dime, which as the story goes, is from one of the gunshots. "One rumor" doesn't cut it as an acceptable excuse when random Americans are shot and killed right here in America by their own government. Neither does "as the story goes". Take it up with the university. That's one of the scenarios they tell (or used to) tell incoming students during freshmen week. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:45:39 PM EDT
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Take it up with the university. That's one of the scenarios they tell (or used to) tell incoming students during freshmen week. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One rumor puts a sniper on the roof of Prentice and opened fired. With the sound of that gunshot, the NG opened fire. There is a hole in the metal structure in front of Taylor the size of a dime, which as the story goes, is from one of the gunshots. "One rumor" doesn't cut it as an acceptable excuse when random Americans are shot and killed right here in America by their own government. Neither does "as the story goes". Take it up with the university. That's one of the scenarios they tell (or used to) tell incoming students during freshmen week. Or so the rumor goes; you're the one who carried that rumor to us here. 
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:47:48 PM EDT
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lol The Feds come up with that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The hippies were throwing rocks, molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the NG, they also set fire to a few buildings. Rumor has it the NG was fired on first. Bottom line is don't start no shit, won't be no shit. lol The Feds come up with that? No. There is evidence for it, including a bullet hole in a metal sculpture. Don't hold your breath waiting for the media to acknowledge that. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:48:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone wants liberty for themselves. They fantasize that government can be limited to infringing on the other guys liberty. ...if only their "team" gains control of the government. Then they are shocked when government is used against them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Arfcom doesn't believe in free speech, free assembly, or protest when it's executed by those they disagree with, sorry OP. No fuck's given. Those protest types (kent, Ferguson, LA) would gladly destroy every aspect of normal life in a hissy fit of rage because they will never fit into society. We do not fit into society now... Everyone wants liberty for themselves. They fantasize that government can be limited to infringing on the other guys liberty. ...if only their "team" gains control of the government. Then they are shocked when government is used against them. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:50:22 PM EDT
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Only on arfcom will you hear people defend the government for shooting protestors. #freespeechexceptforhippies You guys sicketate me. When those "protestors" are burning down buildings, looting stores, attacking the firemen trying to put out the buildings they set on fire, chopping fire hoses with axes, and attacking people, they need to be shot. Your ignorance sicketates me. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:52:13 PM EDT
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When those "protestors" are burning down buildings, looting stores, attacking the firemen trying to put out the buildings they set on fire, chopping fire hoses with axes, and attacking people, they need to be shot. Your ignorance sicketates me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only on arfcom will you hear people defend the government for shooting protestors. #freespeechexceptforhippies You guys sicketate me. When those "protestors" are burning down buildings, looting stores, attacking the firemen trying to put out the buildings they set on fire, chopping fire hoses with axes, and attacking people, they need to be shot. Your ignorance sicketates me. Yet, innocent people died. Or were they just casualties of "war"? Maybe the NGs rifles had 12 lb triggers. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:52:41 PM EDT
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Those killings are bizarrely supported here in GD Tell me, what do they do in Jolly Olde England to people burning down buildings and attacking the firemen trying to put them out? What do they do to people chunking bricks at policemen and soldiers? How did Bloody Sunday go over there across the pond? Based on the incredible restraint the King's men displayed on that occasion, I don't really see where you have damned-all to say about Kent State. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:53:28 PM EDT
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Rumor has it that you have several unregistered machine guns in your home. Door kicking time? I remember the events at Kent State as they were unfolding and two things still stand out....piss poor training and a lack of regard for human life. Fuck hippies everywhere; but they weren't shooting at the national guard troops. What happened was inexcusable in a democratic republic that values life. People defend the government violence at Ruby Ridge and Waco as well. Welcome to that club. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The hippies were throwing rocks, molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the NG, they also set fire to a few buildings. Rumor has it the NG was fired on first. Bottom line is don't start no shit, won't be no shit. Stop letting facts get in the way of emotions. Rumor has it that you have several unregistered machine guns in your home. Door kicking time? I remember the events at Kent State as they were unfolding and two things still stand out....piss poor training and a lack of regard for human life. Fuck hippies everywhere; but they weren't shooting at the national guard troops. What happened was inexcusable in a democratic republic that values life. People defend the government violence at Ruby Ridge and Waco as well. Welcome to that club. Welcome to the apples to oranges club. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:55:05 PM EDT
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Welcome to the apples to oranges club. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The hippies were throwing rocks, molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the NG, they also set fire to a few buildings. Rumor has it the NG was fired on first. Bottom line is don't start no shit, won't be no shit. Stop letting facts get in the way of emotions. Rumor has it that you have several unregistered machine guns in your home. Door kicking time? I remember the events at Kent State as they were unfolding and two things still stand out....piss poor training and a lack of regard for human life. Fuck hippies everywhere; but they weren't shooting at the national guard troops. What happened was inexcusable in a democratic republic that values life. People defend the government violence at Ruby Ridge and Waco as well. Welcome to that club. Welcome to the apples to oranges club. Bullshit. I've heard that Fuck Troy is hiring; at least that's the rumor. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:56:07 PM EDT
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In arguements for second amendment rights pictures of the nazis assassinating citizens frequently are used. While justifiably so and very powerful... The Nazi references only serve to paint gun folks as apocalyptic fringe nutters. They are powerful in setting back the cause of gun rights. |
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Posted: 10/11/2015 7:57:52 PM EDT
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Arfcom doesn't believe in free speech, free assembly, or protest when it's executed by those they disagree with, sorry OP. No fuck's given. Those protest types (kent, Ferguson, LA) would gladly destroy every aspect of normal life in a hissy fit of rage because they will never fit into society. We do not fit into society now... Everyone wants liberty for themselves. They fantasize that government can be limited to infringing on the other guys liberty. ...if only their "team" gains control of the government. Then they are shocked when government is used against them. Yup. Stalin called them useful idiots. |
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