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Posted: 10/9/2015 6:16:28 AM EDT
As soon as Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) shocked his fellow Republicans by withdrawing from the race for House speaker, Paul Ryan knew what was coming.

“I will not be a candidate,” the Wisconsin Republican said in a release issued less than 20 minutes after McCarthy’s stunning Thursday announcement, in an immediate bid to cut off any pressure for him to do a job he has repeatedly said he does not want.

But this time, it didn’t take. By mid-afternoon, outgoing speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) had spoken to Ryan at least twice, trying to convince the reluctant congressman that he was the only man who could save House Republicans from their self-created chaos.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/under-speaker-pressure-signs-pointing-to-a-reluctant-paul-ryan/2015/10/08/101a296c-6dff-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 6:25:43 AM EDT
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Well, he is the only guy to propose a workable budget.

Maybe he'll champion that.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 6:26:08 AM EDT
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FPR.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 6:29:16 AM EDT
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Whoever is finally chosen, will just follow the party path anyway.

Does the choice even matter?

Link Posted: 10/9/2015 6:30:24 AM EDT
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All out civil war within the party and if Boehner is picking Paul Ryan for his side, then I want nothing to do with him.

Besides, the House needs true leadership and reluctance doesn't exactly check that box.
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Maybe he'll champion that.


Maybe protect debt ceiling from the remodelers.


I don't know if the old-school republicans don't get it or don't want to believe it when it comes to why the conservative base is pissed off at them.

It's pretty simple:  they have the majority in both the house and the senate...so why are they the ones worried about compromising?

Now is (has been for a year) the time to run with the ball, not worry about what the (minority) other side will or will not agree to.

HINT:  the republicans don't need the other side to be in agreement...that's how the system works.
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Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:24:08 AM EDT
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In my view this is the last chance the GOP gets from me.  If they elect another establishment guy hand picked by the current leadership, I'm done holding my nose and voting GOP.  Fuck them all!!!!
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I don't know if the old-school republicans don't get it or don't want to believe it when it comes to why the conservative base is pissed off at them.

It's pretty simple:  they have the majority in both the house and the senate...so why are they the ones worried about compromising?

Now is (has been for a year) the time to run with the ball, not worry about what the (minority) other side will or will not agree to.

HINT:  the republicans don't need the other side to be in agreement...that's how the system works.
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Well, he is the only guy to propose a workable budget.

Maybe he'll champion that.


Maybe protect debt ceiling from the remodelers.


I don't know if the old-school republicans don't get it or don't want to believe it when it comes to why the conservative base is pissed off at them.

It's pretty simple:  they have the majority in both the house and the senate...so why are they the ones worried about compromising?

Now is (has been for a year) the time to run with the ball, not worry about what the (minority) other side will or will not agree to.

HINT:  the republicans don't need the other side to be in agreement...that's how the system works.



The GOPe is nothing but a bunch of surrender monkeys.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:36:26 AM EDT
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this is just another case of lucy pulling the football away at the last moment. Face it, we are fucked beyond repair. Neither side want to fit this and in fact is all going according to plan

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Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:37:25 AM EDT
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Is "reluctant" code for "please don't throw me in that briar patch" ?

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Who is Paul Ryan?
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:54:40 AM EDT
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Why is Boner the one nominating his replacement? It should be whoever the people tell their Congressmen to vote for, not someone a limp dick says would be good.
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If Suntan is pushing him then answer should be "no".
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:55:39 AM EDT
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FUCK Paul Ryan.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:58:25 AM EDT
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I could get behind this:

Issa said he backed House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, who has said he would not run, and that he does not have a second choice. Issa said he would consider jumping in.

"I could potentially be a candidate," he said in a separate interview on MSNBC.
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Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:59:56 AM EDT
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The most important issue to the GOPe seems to be amnesty, which is beyond retarded.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 10:02:12 AM EDT
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I like Allen West for Speaker.

Link Posted: 10/9/2015 10:02:30 AM EDT
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It will be a thankless job where everyone bitches about what you do.  Representatives should reflect their constituency, and when they do not - they tend to get replaced.  The Republican party swings from democrat (as apposed to left wing liberal democrat), all the way to libertarian.  That is a broad path of different points of view to please.
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All out civil war within the party and if Boehner is picking Paul Ryan for his side, then I want nothing to do with him.

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I prefer reluctance in my politicians.
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Well, he is the only guy to propose a workable budget.

Maybe he'll champion that.


Maybe protect debt ceiling from the remodelers.


I don't know if the old-school republicans don't get it or don't want to believe it when it comes to why the conservative base is pissed off at them.

It's pretty simple:  they have the majority in both the house and the senate...so why are they the ones worried about compromising?

Now is (has been for a year) the time to run with the ball, not worry about what the (minority) other side will or will not agree to.

HINT:  the republicans don't need the other side to be in agreement...that's how the system works.



The GOPe is nothing but a bunch of surrender monkeys.


Well, except for the 50 or so (Freedom Caucus) that are forcing the issue.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 10:23:31 AM EDT
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Justin Amash for speaker!
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 10:33:01 AM EDT
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Steal Gowdy's chair.  When he arrives and looks around in confusion point to the Speaker's podium.

Problem solved.

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All out civil war within the party and if Boehner is picking Paul Ryan for his side, then I want nothing to do with him.

Besides, the House needs true leadership and reluctance doesn't exactly check that box.


I prefer reluctance in my politicians.

Always good to have before a major transformation.
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I don't know if the old-school republicans don't get it or don't want to believe it when it comes to why the conservative base is pissed off at them.

It's pretty simple:  they have the majority in both the house and the senate...so why are they the ones worried about compromising?

Now is (has been for a year) the time to run with the ball, not worry about what the (minority) other side will or will not agree to.

HINT:  the republicans don't need the other side to be in agreement...that's how the system works.
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Well, he is the only guy to propose a workable budget.

Maybe he'll champion that.


Maybe protect debt ceiling from the remodelers.


I don't know if the old-school republicans don't get it or don't want to believe it when it comes to why the conservative base is pissed off at them.

It's pretty simple:  they have the majority in both the house and the senate...so why are they the ones worried about compromising?

Now is (has been for a year) the time to run with the ball, not worry about what the (minority) other side will or will not agree to.

HINT:  the republicans don't need the other side to be in agreement...that's how the system works.



Hint 2:  What you are seeing here is 2 wings of the same party.  The opposition to some legislation followed by acceptance is just theater for the masses.  The end result is always the same.  Keep the funds flowing into Washington either through taxes or campaign contributions.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 11:00:05 AM EDT
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Three parts of the republican party, three men to fight for the future.

The establishment, the RINO faction and the leader of those who want "wholesale" changes.

Link Posted: 10/9/2015 11:00:10 AM EDT
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I am not an expert on these things, but I think you have to actually be a member of the House, in order to be Speaker of the House.  
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I am not an expert on these things, but I think you have to actually be a member of the House, in order to be Speaker of the House.  


Not true according to news reports. Can be an outsider, and several such names have been tossed about, none of which impressed me much.
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^^ this.
visualize 85 moar ^
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Maybe he'll champion that.


Maybe protect debt ceiling from the remodelers.


He kind of lost his mind for a while after losing in 2012. Dunno.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 11:04:03 AM EDT
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I am not an expert on these things, but I think you have to actually be a member of the House, in order to be Speaker of the House.  


Nope. Anyone who is qualified to be president can be the speaker.
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I am not an expert on these things, but I think you have to actually be a member of the House, in order to be Speaker of the House.  


Actually, you do not.
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I am not an expert on these things, but I think you have to actually be a member of the House, in order to be Speaker of the House.  


Actually, you do not.


yep one of those weird things
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Holy shit.  I didn't know that!  

When's the last time that has actually happened?
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I am not an expert on these things, but I think you have to actually be a member of the House, in order to be Speaker of the House.  


Actually, you do not.


Holy shit.  I didn't know that!  

When's the last time that has actually happened?


ever speaker has been a member of congress
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Holy shit.  I didn't know that!  

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I am not an expert on these things, but I think you have to actually be a member of the House, in order to be Speaker of the House.  


Actually, you do not.


Holy shit.  I didn't know that!  

When's the last time that has actually happened?


Never.
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The conservative caucus in the House has at best 60 votes.  I'm not entirely sure just what they think they can accomplish when the don't even have a majority of the Republicans.  And Ryan would be a fool to take the job.  Frankly anyone would be a fool.
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They should get Newtie the Punkinhead back, make a new Contract with America, and shake up some shit.
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I am not an expert on these things, but I think you have to actually be a member of the House, in order to be Speaker of the House.  


Actually, you do not.


Holy shit.  I didn't know that!  

When's the last time that has actually happened?


Never.


True, but that has been tradition/policy, not law.  We may be charting new territory here.  
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 11:16:48 AM EDT
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Great! Wouldn't want to interrupt the rino parade now would we?

Congressional Republicans should all sit down and write a chapter, put them all in a large book entitled "How I Fucked over The USA and became a Traitor at the same time."

The dems. could simply take two book covers with one page inside boldly proclaiming "We are all mentally diseased traitors so FUCK YOU America?

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Is Ryan still spooning with Patty Murray?

FTG.
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Help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope!
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They're looking for a spineless faggot who won't stand up to the Kenyan.
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This.  Fucking RINO.
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Sam Stein @samsteinhp

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From my perspective, Ryan would be a bad choice. To my knowledge, no one in the House understands budgetary-type issues better than Ryan, and this, along with an apparently stellar personality, is the source of the high esteem in which he correctly is held.

However, when it comes to certain other issues, it’s sometimes difficult to distinguish Ryan from a bleeding-heart liberal. Immigration is an excellent example.

In 2013, Ryan was highly sympathetic to the push for amnesty for illegal immigrants (though he objected to the term). In fact, he appeared at a pro-amnesty rally alongside liberal Democrat Luis Gutierrez, the most strident amnesty monger in the House. In addition, he pitched the alleged economic benefits of amnesty to his House colleagues.
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