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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:13:26 AM EDT
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So over the counter suppressors and new machine guns for what we have now? There is no gun show loophole or anything else.
Sure. Give me the stuff I don't have and I won't give you anything. I'll do that every time. The only thing you could be giving them is background checks on private sales? I don't see any way to enforce that, so sure. "I loaned that to him a long time ago" or "I loaned that to him yesterday". It is still mine. Hand it here and gtfo.  
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:14:09 AM EDT
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It's actually a pretty big trade. The Title II status of suppressors and MG's are for all intents and purpose an outright ban. A trade of repealing ALL of the NFA in its entirety in compromise with "universal" background checks would be a pretty big victory, especially if there was a family and friend exemption. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1 for 1 trade with no shenanigans? Hell yes If you think that's a 1 to 1 trade, you shouldn't be voting. It's actually a pretty big trade. The Title II status of suppressors and MG's are for all intents and purpose an outright ban. A trade of repealing ALL of the NFA in its entirety in compromise with "universal" background checks would be a pretty big victory, especially if there was a family and friend exemption. Exactly what I am saying!! |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:14:30 AM EDT
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A trade of repealing ALL of the NFA in its entirely in compromise with "universal" background checks would be a pretty big victory, especially if there was a family and friend exemption. lol Reagan Amnesty was supposed to come with securing the border. FOPA in 86 was supposed to stop harassment of gun owners while traveling. Instead we got the machine gun ban and people still get arrested for crossing the wrong invisible border. When are yall going to learn that the left promises a compromise, takes what they want now and never gets around to fulfilling their promise? They'd say we have to enact UBCs now, and we will figure out how to repeal NFA laws afterwards. We'd wind up with registration and still have the NFA. History repeats itself, yet again. You can't compromise with the left on anything, because they'll lie and not actually follow through. Maybe someday enough people will figure that out to stop thinking compromising on anything with them is a good idea. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:14:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's actually a pretty big trade. The Title II status of suppressors and MG's are for all intents and purpose an outright ban. A trade of repealing ALL of the NFA in its entirely in compromise with "universal" background checks would be a pretty big victory, especially if there was a family and friend exemption. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1 for 1 trade with no shenanigans? Hell yes If you think that's a 1 to 1 trade, you shouldn't be voting. It's actually a pretty big trade. The Title II status of suppressors and MG's are for all intents and purpose an outright ban. A trade of repealing ALL of the NFA in its entirely in compromise with "universal" background checks would be a pretty big victory, especially if there was a family and friend exemption. If you think expanding background checks is a good idea, you belong in a mental institution, which I completely support funding at this point. I really don't see getting rid of the liberals and other crazies with any other method, outside of mass murder. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:15:19 AM EDT
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NO.
But you know how everything is always about the details? Well, let's just say it passes. So, a BGC will cost $200. You happy now? Just say, NO. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:15:39 AM EDT
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Nothing will ever "get better" about machine guns and suppressors (nationally anyway state suppressors laws seem to be getting better). In hypothetical land would I trade having to do every gun transaction through an ffl for being able to buy machine guns for $750 off the rack and being able to buy suppressors off the shelf? Yeah probably
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:15:41 AM EDT
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If you think that's a 1 to 1 trade, you shouldn't be voting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1 for 1 trade with no shenanigans? Hell yes If you think that's a 1 to 1 trade, you shouldn't be voting. Background checks for doing away with the NFA? Are you shitting me or is your tinfoil so tight you would be afraid of a background check? I'd go broke buying an m2. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:15:47 AM EDT
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They can take my guns from my cold dead hands, let them try. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck yeah! I don't give a shit about background checks. Give me me MG's and easy suppressors!  Except that with Universal background checks, everything you purchase will be expected to be in your possession. You can't play the "I sold it face to face" card. If you buy a gun, the day comes (like it did in NYC when they sent out the letter demanding certain models of firearms be forfeited) when you have to turn it in, and you don't, you have a warrant out for your arrest. Because, with UBC's, either you have every gun you have ever purchased, or there is a paper trail of you selling it, or a police report of it being lost/stolen. End of story. Like I have said in previous threads, UBC's, in a practical sense, would mean that every gun you own is the equivalent of what an NFA firearm is today. They can take my guns from my cold dead hands, let them try. Eventually. People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:16:49 AM EDT
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They can take my guns from my cold dead hands, let them try. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck yeah! I don't give a shit about background checks. Give me me MG's and easy suppressors! Except that with Universal background checks, everything you purchase will be expected to be in your possession. You can't play the "I sold it face to face" card. If you buy a gun, the day comes (like it did in NYC when they sent out the letter demanding certain models of firearms be forfeited) when you have to turn it in, and you don't, you have a warrant out for your arrest. Because, with UBC's, either you have every gun you have ever purchased, or there is a paper trail of you selling it, or a police report of it being lost/stolen. End of story. Like I have said in previous threads, UBC's, in a practical sense, would mean that every gun you own is the equivalent of what an NFA firearm is today. They can take my guns from my cold dead hands, let them try. If they never come to actually take them, are you going to die an outlaw and pass the burden of getting your rights back to your children? |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:16:55 AM EDT
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How about we deregulate all NFA, GCA68, and FOPA items and defund the ATF. This sounds like a good compromise to me.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:17:25 AM EDT
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People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. In many states we are continuing to improve the gun laws. Your pessimism is misguided. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:17:47 AM EDT
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Nothing will ever "get better" about machine guns and suppressors (nationally anyway state suppressors laws seem to be getting better). In hypothetical land would I trade having to do every gun transaction through an ffl for being able to buy machine guns for $750 off the rack and being able to buy suppressors off the shelf? Yeah probably Pretty much. It'll NEVER happen though. Like I said we'll be lucky to hold on to what we got. I'm picking up a Lifetime NRA membership when the NRA convention comes to Kentucky next year. I believe they give a discount for veterans. I plan on giving the rest of what I have discounted to the NRA ILA. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:19:08 AM EDT
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In many states we are continuing to improve the gun laws. Your pessimism is misguided. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. In many states we are continuing to improve the gun laws. Your pessimism is misguided. Improving gun laws? Are you serious? You think open carry or CCW is better gun laws? Where does that say anything about those in the 2nd amendment? How fast do you think those gun laws can go away if given a majority of Democrats take over? |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:20:41 AM EDT
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The feds have no authority to regulate firearms.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:21:22 AM EDT
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Improving gun laws? Are you serious? You think open carry or CCW is better gun laws? Where does that say anything about those in the 2nd amendment? How fast do you think those gun laws can go away if given a majority of Democrats take over? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. In many states we are continuing to improve the gun laws. Your pessimism is misguided. Improving gun laws? Are you serious? You think open carry or CCW is better gun laws? Where does that say anything about those in the 2nd amendment? How fast do you think those gun laws can go away if given a majority of Democrats take over? Yeah, lets just completely ignore the several states who have gone to constitutional carry, and the many states working towards it. We shall call them "Inconvenient States". |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:21:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Background checks for doing away with the NFA? Are you shitting me or is your tinfoil so tight you would be afraid of a background check? I'd go broke buying an m2. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1 for 1 trade with no shenanigans? Hell yes If you think that's a 1 to 1 trade, you shouldn't be voting. Background checks for doing away with the NFA? Are you shitting me or is your tinfoil so tight you would be afraid of a background check? I'd go broke buying an m2. The current broken background check system denies about twelve-thousand people a year, who go through the process of appealing to assert their rights. You background check supporting cunts are the absolute worst of the infiltrators we see here. I'd like to do things to you. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:23:32 AM EDT
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Eventually. People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck yeah! I don't give a shit about background checks. Give me me MG's and easy suppressors! Except that with Universal background checks, everything you purchase will be expected to be in your possession. You can't play the "I sold it face to face" card. If you buy a gun, the day comes (like it did in NYC when they sent out the letter demanding certain models of firearms be forfeited) when you have to turn it in, and you don't, you have a warrant out for your arrest. Because, with UBC's, either you have every gun you have ever purchased, or there is a paper trail of you selling it, or a police report of it being lost/stolen. End of story. Like I have said in previous threads, UBC's, in a practical sense, would mean that every gun you own is the equivalent of what an NFA firearm is today. They can take my guns from my cold dead hands, let them try. Eventually. People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. Yep. I know a lot of "thing is 'Murica, that would NEVER happen here" types. People just don't get it. It probably can, and will. Not today, not tomorrow. But within the next couple of decades, it more thank likely will. With universal background checks, every gun you own (after it is passed) will have traceable transaction forms to go with them. That is not fucking tinfoil, that is the truth. And the left has already pointed at countries that have successfully accomplished mass forfeiture/confiscation as their goal. So you can sit there and woefully think that since our flag has stars and stripes on it, that we are immune to that, and there will never be an issue with allowing he government to track every firearm transaction made. But if you do, you are no different than the people that say "who needs that" in reference to "assault rifles" and the like; IE) the same type of people that allowed places like England and Aussie to have the laws that they have. But, like I said, this is America. That would never happen here. They respect the 2nd amendment.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:23:43 AM EDT
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Yeah, lets just completely ignore the several states who have gone to constitutional carry, and the many states working towards it. We shall call them "Inconvenient States". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. In many states we are continuing to improve the gun laws. Your pessimism is misguided. Improving gun laws? Are you serious? You think open carry or CCW is better gun laws? Where does that say anything about those in the 2nd amendment? How fast do you think those gun laws can go away if given a majority of Democrats take over? Yeah, lets just completely ignore the several states who have gone to constitutional carry, and the many states working towards it. We shall call them "Inconvenient States". You think the democrats are just going to just let that happen? I believe this Election season we'll see if you're right or if you're wrong. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:24:02 AM EDT
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Improving gun laws? Are you serious? You think open carry or CCW is better gun laws? Where does that say anything about those in the 2nd amendment? How fast do you think those gun laws can go away if given a majority of Democrats take over? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. In many states we are continuing to improve the gun laws. Your pessimism is misguided. Improving gun laws? Are you serious? You think open carry or CCW is better gun laws? Where does that say anything about those in the 2nd amendment? How fast do you think those gun laws can go away if given a majority of Democrats take over? These laws are far better. Carry was illegal in many states for decades - now, most states are shall-issue. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:24:53 AM EDT
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(Sigline) "NRA Life Member, TSRA, MS Carry, NYSRPA, Oregon Firearms Federation, VCDL" Hey, Thanks. We're gonna need it. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:25:25 AM EDT
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The current broken background check system denies about twelve-thousand people a year, who go through the process of appealing to assert their rights. You background check supporting cunts are the absolute worst of the infiltrators we see here. I'd like to do things to you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1 for 1 trade with no shenanigans? Hell yes If you think that's a 1 to 1 trade, you shouldn't be voting. Background checks for doing away with the NFA? Are you shitting me or is your tinfoil so tight you would be afraid of a background check? I'd go broke buying an m2. The current broken background check system denies about twelve-thousand people a year, who go through the process of appealing to assert their rights. You background check supporting cunts are the absolute worst of the infiltrators we see here. I'd like to do things to you. Damn my cover has been blown. Guess I should ditch all the stuff I bought on the EE and go back to DU. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:26:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can take my guns from my cold dead hands, let them try. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fuck yeah! I don't give a shit about background checks. Give me me MG's and easy suppressors! Except that with Universal background checks, everything you purchase will be expected to be in your possession. You can't play the "I sold it face to face" card. If you buy a gun, the day comes (like it did in NYC when they sent out the letter demanding certain models of firearms be forfeited) when you have to turn it in, and you don't, you have a warrant out for your arrest. Because, with UBC's, either you have every gun you have ever purchased, or there is a paper trail of you selling it, or a police report of it being lost/stolen. End of story. Like I have said in previous threads, UBC's, in a practical sense, would mean that every gun you own is the equivalent of what an NFA firearm is today. They can take my guns from my cold dead hands, let them try. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:26:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, lets just completely ignore the several states who have gone to constitutional carry, and the many states working towards it. We shall call them "Inconvenient States". Four state legislatures voted for it this year. Fucking four in one year. Two were thwarted by their governors. We will probably pass ten states next next year. That's twenty percent of the country. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:26:33 AM EDT
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These laws are far better. Carry was illegal in many states for decades - now, most states are shall-issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. In many states we are continuing to improve the gun laws. Your pessimism is misguided. Improving gun laws? Are you serious? You think open carry or CCW is better gun laws? Where does that say anything about those in the 2nd amendment? How fast do you think those gun laws can go away if given a majority of Democrats take over? These laws are far better. Carry was illegal in many states for decades - now, most states are shall-issue. Those Laws are complete are utter BS, and go against the 2nd amendment. CCW laws are unconstitutional, and infringe on people's rights. I've got my CCW. I feel like a sheep. Same thing with all my NFA stuff. It's BS, and not one single law abiding American should have to do that to be a gun owner. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:26:48 AM EDT
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This one on being compromising pussies is already on pace to pass it up ten fold, and my thread on helping out fellow gun owners is months old. 
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:27:59 AM EDT
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Four state legislatures voted for it this year. Fucking four in one year. Two were thwarted by their governors. We will probably pass ten states next next year. That's twenty percent of the country. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, lets just completely ignore the several states who have gone to constitutional carry, and the many states working towards it. We shall call them "Inconvenient States". Four state legislatures voted for it this year. Fucking four in one year. Two were thwarted by their governors. We will probably pass ten states next next year. That's twenty percent of the country. It'll never pass in Kentucky. We're about to have a very anti gun governor in Jack Conway. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:28:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:29:05 AM EDT
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lol Reagan Amnesty was supposed to come with securing the border. FOPA in 86 was supposed to stop harassment of gun owners while traveling. Instead we got the machine gun ban and people still get arrested for crossing the wrong invisible border. When are yall going to learn that the left promises a compromise, takes what they want now and never gets around to fulfilling their promise? They'd say we have to enact UBCs now, and we will figure out how to repeal NFA laws afterwards. We'd wind up with registration and still have the NFA. History repeats itself, yet again. You can't compromise with the left on anything, because they'll lie and not actually follow through. Maybe someday enough people will figure that out to stop thinking compromising on anything with them is a good idea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A trade of repealing ALL of the NFA in its entirely in compromise with "universal" background checks would be a pretty big victory, especially if there was a family and friend exemption. lol Reagan Amnesty was supposed to come with securing the border. FOPA in 86 was supposed to stop harassment of gun owners while traveling. Instead we got the machine gun ban and people still get arrested for crossing the wrong invisible border. When are yall going to learn that the left promises a compromise, takes what they want now and never gets around to fulfilling their promise? They'd say we have to enact UBCs now, and we will figure out how to repeal NFA laws afterwards. We'd wind up with registration and still have the NFA. History repeats itself, yet again. You can't compromise with the left on anything, because they'll lie and not actually follow through. Maybe someday enough people will figure that out to stop thinking compromising on anything with them is a good idea. I thought we were talking about hypotheticals. (Hypotheticals that really have no chance of ever happening). Hypothetically speaking, I'd have no problem getting back my rightful access to unconstitutionally banned firearms and non firearms (suppressors) in trade with so called "universal background checks". The NFA is a registry while UBC's only are suspected to possibly create a registry. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:29:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The current broken background check system denies about twelve-thousand people a year, who go through the process of appealing to assert their rights. You background check supporting cunts are the absolute worst of the infiltrators we see here. I'd like to do things to you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 1 for 1 trade with no shenanigans? Hell yes If you think that's a 1 to 1 trade, you shouldn't be voting. Background checks for doing away with the NFA? Are you shitting me or is your tinfoil so tight you would be afraid of a background check? I'd go broke buying an m2. The current broken background check system denies about twelve-thousand people a year, who go through the process of appealing to assert their rights. You background check supporting cunts are the absolute worst of the infiltrators we see here. I'd like to do things to you. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:30:20 AM EDT
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The NFA is a registry while UBC's only are suspected to possibly create a registry. Suspected to possibly create a registry? 
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:32:05 AM EDT
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Suspected to possibly create a registry?
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The NFA is a registry while UBC's only are suspected to possibly create a registry. Suspected to possibly create a registry?
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:33:08 AM EDT
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No.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:33:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't have to. They make the gun illegal. Let's say I build an AR15 this weekend in NY. Okay so now I have a gun that is a felony to own. So now what? I can go in my cellar and caress it. I can't even sight it in without risking prison time, if I shoot a burglar with it, prison time. Other than zombies starting to wander the countryside and society collapsing you can't do anything with it unless you have a pretty high tolerance for risking incarceration Maybe that guy who lives behind me and loads all his mags to 28 rounds registered them all and the guns that shoot them. I suppose it's possible. A few people did. You reach a certain point of regulation, and a lot of people just stop giving a shit. If you have to shoot a burglar with an illegal gun, maybe you should bury him out in the woods. Less hassle overall. Don't post about it on arfcom, it's probably against the COC. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:34:07 AM EDT
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No. Registration ends with confiscation, and there is no freaking way that UBC on private sales wouldn't end up making a registry. Nah, it's only suspected to maybe possibly create the slim option of perhaps one day becoming a registry. That's totally not the intent of any UBC push. 
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:34:22 AM EDT
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So then they can lock me and my family up when we let eachother borrow guns?
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:35:33 AM EDT
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An actual "registry" and a "paper trail" are not the same thing. When we don't have the 2nd amendment to fall back on anymore, they become the same thing. But that would never happen.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:36:21 AM EDT
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Those Laws are complete are utter BS, and go against the 2nd amendment. CCW laws are unconstitutional, and infringe on people's rights. I've got my CCW. I feel like a sheep. Same thing with all my NFA stuff. It's BS, and not one single law abiding American should have to do that to be a gun owner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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People on here think they're going to get more of their freedoms and gun rights back. Gullible. Only reason I give money to this site, and the NRA is to try and keep what we have. I would say in 20-40 years it'll be almost gone. In many states we are continuing to improve the gun laws. Your pessimism is misguided. Improving gun laws? Are you serious? You think open carry or CCW is better gun laws? Where does that say anything about those in the 2nd amendment? How fast do you think those gun laws can go away if given a majority of Democrats take over? These laws are far better. Carry was illegal in many states for decades - now, most states are shall-issue. Those Laws are complete are utter BS, and go against the 2nd amendment. CCW laws are unconstitutional, and infringe on people's rights. I've got my CCW. I feel like a sheep. Same thing with all my NFA stuff. It's BS, and not one single law abiding American should have to do that to be a gun owner. Sadly, SCOTUS denies that "shall not be infringed" means "shall not be infringed." Until they change their minds, this is the world we must live in. Shall-issue is a minor step, but a step in the right direction. The sunset of the AWB on the Federal level was a turning point. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:37:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol you call this fantasyland in the OP where you can buy mini guns at wal mart but have to do a background check to sell your neighbor a 10/22 supporting background checks? Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:38:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe that guy who lives behind me and loads all his mags to 28 rounds registered them all and the guns that shoot them. I suppose it's possible. A few people did. You reach a certain point of regulation, and a lot of people just stop giving a shit. If you have to shoot a burglar with an illegal gun, maybe you should bury him out in the woods. Less hassle overall. Don't post about it on arfcom, it's probably against the COC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They don't have to. They make the gun illegal. Let's say I build an AR15 this weekend in NY. Okay so now I have a gun that is a felony to own. So now what? I can go in my cellar and caress it. I can't even sight it in without risking prison time, if I shoot a burglar with it, prison time. Other than zombies starting to wander the countryside and society collapsing you can't do anything with it unless you have a pretty high tolerance for risking incarceration Maybe that guy who lives behind me and loads all his mags to 28 rounds registered them all and the guns that shoot them. I suppose it's possible. A few people did. You reach a certain point of regulation, and a lot of people just stop giving a shit. If you have to shoot a burglar with an illegal gun, maybe you should bury him out in the woods. Less hassle overall. Don't post about it on arfcom, it's probably against the COC. Anyway, regulators don't give a shit if you don't give a shit. It's a win for them in the end. Molon labe guy is one kitchen grease fire or pissed off girlfriend away from prison for any illegal stuff he has squirreled away. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:38:54 AM EDT
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Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol you call this fantasyland in the OP where you can buy mini guns at wal mart but have to do a background check to sell your neighbor a 10/22 supporting background checks? Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. Awww bless your heart... |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:39:00 AM EDT
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Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol you call this fantasyland in the OP where you can buy mini guns at wal mart but have to do a background check to sell your neighbor a 10/22 supporting background checks? Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. And they have one end goal in mind. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:40:36 AM EDT
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Awww bless your heart... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol you call this fantasyland in the OP where you can buy mini guns at wal mart but have to do a background check to sell your neighbor a 10/22 supporting background checks? Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. Awww bless your heart... So are you saying that you don't believe that the people pushing for "sensible gun control" want more than what they are letting on? |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:40:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lol you call this fantasyland in the OP where you can buy mini guns at wal mart but have to do a background check to sell your neighbor a 10/22 supporting background checks? Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:41:49 AM EDT
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Absolutely man. Started a thread hoping to encourage others to do the same.
This one on being compromising pussies is already on pace to pass it up ten fold, and my thread on helping out fellow gun owners is months old. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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(Sigline) "NRA Life Member, TSRA, MS Carry, NYSRPA, Oregon Firearms Federation, VCDL" Hey, Thanks. We're gonna need it. Absolutely man. Started a thread hoping to encourage others to do the same.
This one on being compromising pussies is already on pace to pass it up ten fold, and my thread on helping out fellow gun owners is months old. for what it's worth, I became a life member of the TSRA around the time of your thread. not sure I posted in there, but I think I did. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:42:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: good luck with burying burglars out back. Maybe if you're a scary loner living in a shack in the woods like the Unabomber. Anyway, regulators don't give a shit if you don't give a shit. It's a win for them in the end. Molon labe guy is one kitchen grease fire or pissed off girlfriend away from prison for any illegal stuff he has squirreled away. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They don't have to. They make the gun illegal. Let's say I build an AR15 this weekend in NY. Okay so now I have a gun that is a felony to own. So now what? I can go in my cellar and caress it. I can't even sight it in without risking prison time, if I shoot a burglar with it, prison time. Other than zombies starting to wander the countryside and society collapsing you can't do anything with it unless you have a pretty high tolerance for risking incarceration Maybe that guy who lives behind me and loads all his mags to 28 rounds registered them all and the guns that shoot them. I suppose it's possible. A few people did. You reach a certain point of regulation, and a lot of people just stop giving a shit. If you have to shoot a burglar with an illegal gun, maybe you should bury him out in the woods. Less hassle overall. Don't post about it on arfcom, it's probably against the COC. Anyway, regulators don't give a shit if you don't give a shit. It's a win for them in the end. Molon labe guy is one kitchen grease fire or pissed off girlfriend away from prison for any illegal stuff he has squirreled away. Buy more land, dude. And a nice suit. Plus it's fucking rural NY. What are the odds? |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:42:30 AM EDT
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Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol you call this fantasyland in the OP where you can buy mini guns at wal mart but have to do a background check to sell your neighbor a 10/22 supporting background checks? Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. This is hypothetical. I would never trust them to honor a deal in real life. You might consider not alienating people who share common goals as yourself by not threatening them on the Internet. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:42:36 AM EDT
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no more compromises
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:43:01 AM EDT
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Lol don't forget to buy some lime, helps get rid of the dead burglars quicker. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol you call this fantasyland in the OP where you can buy mini guns at wal mart but have to do a background check to sell your neighbor a 10/22 supporting background checks? Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. I thought I was supposed to have a hog farm? I get so confused. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:43:29 AM EDT
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Sadly, SCOTUS denies that "shall not be infringed" means "shall not be infringed." Until they change their minds, this is the world we must live in. Shall-issue is a minor step, but a step in the right direction. The sunset of the AWB on the Federal level was a turning point. Sigh.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:43:31 AM EDT
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Lol don't forget to buy some lime, helps get rid of the dead burglars quicker. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol you call this fantasyland in the OP where you can buy mini guns at wal mart but have to do a background check to sell your neighbor a 10/22 supporting background checks? Crazy people who think we're going to trade all the current gun laws for UBCs? Yeah. These are the kind of people who will trade away all sorts of rights for some delusional perceived victory. That's too kind. They're gun grabbers, chipping away at gun rights. What does that even mean? Are you implying that people that oppose new regulations are some fucking backwoods hilljacks that literally SSS? |
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