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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By "us", you mean all us guys in Georgia. Right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Heard last week it was going to go through. Buddy has a friend at CMP that is going to hand pick us a few guns By "us", you mean all us guys in Georgia. Right? Possibly. Might need to send someone down with a 10k check |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:37:26 PM EDT
[#2]
Hope so but not optomistic
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:37:43 PM EDT
[#3]
Something you guys may not have thought about is that the military also used a lot of K-Frame .38's.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:39:15 PM EDT
[#4]
FBHO
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:42:27 PM EDT
[#5]
If they do hit the market, any idea on price?
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:43:07 PM EDT
[#6]
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Something you guys may not have thought about is that the military also used a lot of K-Frame .38's. 
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:45:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Something you guys may not have thought about is that the military also used a lot of K-Frame .38's. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:52:11 PM EDT
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And Rugers and even J-Frames... Also the Sig M11s. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something you guys may not have thought about is that the military also used a lot of K-Frame .38's. That's right... The U.S.C.G. used the Sig's, correct? |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 8:57:30 PM EDT
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It's attached to the military budget. It could actually pass. I can only think of two ways it would pass: 1) its attached to a bill authorising a 3rd term... So that's not happening 2) its attached to a bill taking away all gun rights No way he'll sign a pro gun bill... Or anything else its attached to. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:08:16 PM EDT
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The Senate voted 73-26 to end debate on the bill and thwart a filibuster on Tuesday, with 21 Democrats breaking ranks to join the Republican majority. The Hill reports the lone Republican "nay” came from Senator Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) of Kentucky, while Senator Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) of Florida missed the vote. Both of these Senators are currently running for President. Shows to go you Rand Paul and Marco Rubio don't really give a shit about your 2nd rights. 
I'd be surprised to see Rand Paul vote "yay" on ANY budget right now. Especially when cutting costs in the government is integral to his platform. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's right... The U.S.C.G. used the Sig's, correct? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Something you guys may not have thought about is that the military also used a lot of K-Frame .38's. That's right... The U.S.C.G. used the Sig's, correct? |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:09:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can only think of two ways it would pass: 1) its attached to a bill authorising a 3rd term... So that's not happening 2) its attached to a bill taking away all gun rights No way he'll sign a pro gun bill... Or anything else its attached to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's attached to the military budget. It could actually pass. I can only think of two ways it would pass: 1) its attached to a bill authorising a 3rd term... So that's not happening 2) its attached to a bill taking away all gun rights No way he'll sign a pro gun bill... Or anything else its attached to. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:10:08 PM EDT
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That's right... The U.S.C.G. used the Sig's, correct? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something you guys may not have thought about is that the military also used a lot of K-Frame .38's. That's right... The U.S.C.G. used the Sig's, correct? Not the M11's. We use 229R DAK's. And I've never seen one, but the Ordnance manual also talks about the p239 (I'm assuming CGIS agents have those). I don't even know if our guns would be CMP eligible since we fall under DHS. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:23:25 PM EDT
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I'm here to get my hopes up and then be bitterly disappointed. Get in line pal! |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:26:51 PM EDT
[#15]
He may have to sign. To Veto Military spending over this would be bad optics. But we will see.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:44:01 PM EDT
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I can only think of two ways it would pass: 1) its attached to a bill authorising a 3rd term... So that's not happening 2) its attached to a bill taking away all gun rights No way he'll sign a pro gun bill... Or anything else its attached to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's attached to the military budget. It could actually pass. I can only think of two ways it would pass: 1) its attached to a bill authorising a 3rd term... So that's not happening 2) its attached to a bill taking away all gun rights No way he'll sign a pro gun bill... Or anything else its attached to. It's not a gun bill... It's a defense budget. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:44:49 PM EDT
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The Senate voted 73-26 to end debate on the bill and thwart a filibuster on Tuesday, with 21 Democrats breaking ranks to join the Republican majority. The Hill reports the lone Republican "nay” came from Senator Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) of Kentucky, while Senator Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) of Florida missed the vote. Both of these Senators are currently running for President. Shows to go you Rand Paul and Marco Rubio don't really give a shit about your 2nd rights.
Seriously? 
The part of this bill we are discussing was not big enough to even get mentioned in the story. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:50:10 PM EDT
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I can only think of two ways it would pass: 1) its attached to a bill authorising a 3rd term... So that's not happening 2) its attached to a bill taking away all gun rights No way he'll sign a pro gun bill... Or anything else its attached to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's attached to the military budget. It could actually pass. I can only think of two ways it would pass: 1) its attached to a bill authorising a 3rd term... So that's not happening 2) its attached to a bill taking away all gun rights No way he'll sign a pro gun bill... Or anything else its attached to. You mean like he did when authorizing concealed carry in the national parks? |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:51:09 PM EDT
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I'd for for one. If nothing else, it's a great piece of history.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:51:43 PM EDT
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It's not a gun bill... It's a defense budget. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's attached to the military budget. It could actually pass. I can only think of two ways it would pass: 1) its attached to a bill authorising a 3rd term... So that's not happening 2) its attached to a bill taking away all gun rights No way he'll sign a pro gun bill... Or anything else its attached to. It's not a gun bill... It's a defense budget. This, and word on the hill is that the reason POTUS is holding out on it is because it authorizes more money for Gitmo. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:52:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd for for one. If nothing else, it's a great piece of history. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:52:37 PM EDT
[#22]
lol
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:52:59 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll shit myself if he signs that. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 9:54:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FBHO |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:08:41 PM EDT
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Ill have a heart attack. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll shit myself if he signs that. I'll get both |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:09:44 PM EDT
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Hell I was in a couple NYARNG units. Our 1911's were in pretty good shape. They were all refurbed at least once and had more than 80% finish remaining, most had more like 95%. The armor unit I was in had really good ones. The MP unit I was in they were some more tired ones in the mix. We had a couple 1911's with replacement slides and parts in the mix. Wouldn't mind one of each, one 1911 and one 1911A1 Pretty much zero chance of getting a 1911 un refurbed, 1. it'd go to auction and 2. think hen's teeth.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:17:04 PM EDT
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Will anyone be able to order, or would one need the NRA/shooting course and club membership? They would have the same requirements as M1 Garands. Plus transfer to an FFL I believe. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:27:33 PM EDT
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Something you guys may not have thought about is that the military also used a lot of K-Frame .38's. The legislative language specifically singles out the 1911s. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:30:08 PM EDT
[#29]
It's not a gun bill...
It's a defense budget. It's actually the annual Defense Authorization Act for 2016 that's usually signed in October. The ( Budget)appropriations bill comes later. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:38:43 PM EDT
[#30]
It would be nice if some 1911s get released to the CMP. But in the wake of all this "we have to something for gun control" that's still being pushed, I'm not exactly optimistic that the bill will be singed with the 1911 provision still attached.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:40:01 PM EDT
[#31]
I don't need another 1911 but if this passes I will pick one up!
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:41:14 PM EDT
[#32]
CMP should have kept their pie hole shut. Should have left it to his people to catch it.
"Gotta sign it to find out what's in it" |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:44:19 PM EDT
[#33]
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It's not a 2A or firearm bill. It's the defense budget. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Senate voted 73-26 to end debate on the bill and thwart a filibuster on Tuesday, with 21 Democrats breaking ranks to join the Republican majority. The Hill reports the lone Republican "nay” came from Senator Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) of Kentucky, while Senator Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) of Florida missed the vote. Both of these Senators are currently running for President. Shows to go you Rand Paul and Marco Rubio don't really give a shit about your 2nd rights.
It's not a 2A or firearm bill. It's the defense budget. Get out of here with that logic. Indignant rage! |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:48:57 PM EDT
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Guess I need to re to up my membership.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:50:57 PM EDT
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The "flippers" are lined up and ready to clean the CMP out if this passes......just like with all the decent Garands , 03's, and Kimber 82's...... CMP needs to limit sales to "1 per person per year"...... I'm sure past the experience will lead them to put some limit specially at first. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 11:05:13 PM EDT
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They would have the same requirements as M1 Garands. Plus transfer to an FFL I believe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Will anyone be able to order, or would one need the NRA/shooting course and club membership? They would have the same requirements as M1 Garands. Plus transfer to an FFL I believe. No transfer to an FFL need if you have a C&R on file with the CMP also. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 11:12:26 PM EDT
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IF this goes through, I can see I will be making a long drive with credit card and checkbook in hand.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 11:29:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Would buy one or five
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Posted: 10/8/2015 11:39:38 PM EDT
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Per CMP Facebook page. 1hr ago no way in hell it passes him. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 11:48:43 PM EDT
[#40]
tag
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Posted: 10/8/2015 11:53:51 PM EDT
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It would be nice if some 1911s get released to the CMP. But in the wake of all this "we have to something for gun control" that's still being pushed, I'm not exactly optimistic that the bill will be singed with the 1911 provision still attached. I think its possible the bill is big enough that most lawmakers won't even know. The news story linked before suggests there is enough controversy in the rest of the bill that it didn't even mention the CMP. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 11:58:49 PM EDT
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That's right... The U.S.C.G. used the Sig's, correct? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something you guys may not have thought about is that the military also used a lot of K-Frame .38's. That's right... The U.S.C.G. used the Sig's, correct? Our MPI guys use the M11s too. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 12:04:40 AM EDT
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They will have to wait for a different President, Obama will probably order all of them destroyed.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 1:48:10 AM EDT
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Heard last week it was going to go through. Buddy has a friend at CMP that is going to hand pick us a few guns I doubt it. CMP goes to a lot of trouble to prevent that. If insiders working for the CMP handpicking out the better items of anything, the shitstorm would be immense. I want one, though fear the CMP is going to overprice them. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 6:14:38 AM EDT
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So, let's say, just for the sake of argument, this bill passes. Will the CMP send out an email announcing the sale or will we have to keep an eye on the site? When they announced the last sale of International Harvester (was that right) I didn't get a notice, even though I am a CMP member. I stumbled on it after the order deadline passed. I know I'm asking for a guess.... It'll be a while. They'll have to coordinate with the Army for the pistols and get the transferred, then inspect & grade them. I'm guessing it'll be at least another year till we see them. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 7:33:44 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No transfer to an FFL need if you have a C&R on file with the CMP also. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Will anyone be able to order, or would one need the NRA/shooting course and club membership? They would have the same requirements as M1 Garands. Plus transfer to an FFL I believe. No transfer to an FFL need if you have a C&R on file with the CMP also. I have no C&R and every Garand, Carbine, 1903, and 1917 were mailed directly to me. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 7:53:12 AM EDT
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Well that will never happen.
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Posted: 10/9/2015 8:00:37 AM EDT
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If they do hit the market, any idea on price? Somewhere between $500 and $25,000. |
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Posted: 10/9/2015 8:02:47 AM EDT
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Tag...
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Posted: 10/9/2015 8:04:13 AM EDT
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I think its possible the bill is big enough that most lawmakers won't even know. The news story linked before suggests there is enough controversy in the rest of the bill that it didn't even mention the CMP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It would be nice if some 1911s get released to the CMP. But in the wake of all this "we have to something for gun control" that's still being pushed, I'm not exactly optimistic that the bill will be singed with the 1911 provision still attached. I think its possible the bill is big enough that most lawmakers won't even know. The news story linked before suggests there is enough controversy in the rest of the bill that it didn't even mention the CMP. Don't let that get in the way of the "Rand Paul hates 1911s!" outrage though. 
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