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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:14:39 AM EDT
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Article doesn't say the race of cops, but I wouldn't be shocked to find out they were NOT the white boys you're imagining. They tout being the most ethnically diverse department in the country and it isn't like white guys have the exclusive on being dicks Wouldn't be a surprise, less than 50% of the department is white. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:18:00 AM EDT
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This shit makes me feel like ZERO sympathy for a nypd'r no matter what, they really seem to be a foreign army systematically waging war against the constitution for overtime pay. Do you understand how FUCKING EXPENSIVE it is to live in and around Screw York? I do not condone what these cops do or did, but at some level I understand why they do what they do. It's human instinct to survive in your habitat....... |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:20:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The check cashing place will take about 15 points too, now that I think about it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 12K? He'll probably lose half of it in taxes.  True dat! |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:31:32 AM EDT
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Do you understand how FUCKING EXPENSIVE it is to live in and around Screw York? I do not condone what these cops do or did, but at some level I understand why they do what they do. It's human instinct to survive in your habitat....... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This shit makes me feel like ZERO sympathy for a nypd'r no matter what, they really seem to be a foreign army systematically waging war against the constitution for overtime pay. Do you understand how FUCKING EXPENSIVE it is to live in and around Screw York? I do not condone what these cops do or did, but at some level I understand why they do what they do. It's human instinct to survive in your habitat....... I lived in NYC for 30 years so I know how expensive it is. As a general rule of thumb the police and everyone else are unpleasant to be around. After a while you become callous and don't care. I did my time in Gotham and now I'm out 
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:32:33 AM EDT
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As a general rule of thumb the police and everyone else are unpleasant to be around. After a while you become callous and don't care. morganfreeman.jpg |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:39:38 AM EDT
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This sounds totally bogus. He should have gotten more than 12k IMO.
Let's see. Racial profiling, illegal search and seizure, illegal detainment, false arrest. These officers should be given 1 week of UNPAID LEAVE in addition to the 50k they need to fork over for this ridiculousness. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:44:11 AM EDT
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Not another cop bashing thread?!? The cops saw a Puerto Rican driving a nice car, figured that looked suspicious, and kept looking for a crime until they could invent one. Knowing this not the year to trifle with blacks, and working in an ultra liberal town, for a socialist mayor, they have to do something to make their arrest numbers look good. Sure, NYC hasn't had an outbreak of "West Side Story" switchblade fights since JFK was POTUS, but an easy felony bust is an easy felony bust. WTF are you talking about? 
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:44:58 AM EDT
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$12K for all that illegal crap? Add a zero and a pink slip for the arresting officers, and I'd go for it.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:49:35 AM EDT
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Article doesn't say the race of cops, but I wouldn't be shocked to find out they were NOT the white boys you're imagining. They tout being the most ethnically diverse department in the country and it isn't like white guys have the exclusive on being dicks At first glance I read that as ethically diverse. Can you make a non-verbal Freudian slip? |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 10:58:52 AM EDT
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Lawsuit payoffs should come from Police Pension funds. Problems would be peer corrected, and quickly. I'm sure there would be lots of blanket parties in the locker room.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 11:04:27 AM EDT
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Lawsuit payoffs should come from Police Pension funds. So in other words, mostly taxpayer's funds. You think a regular cop pays in the $1.5+ million they get from their pension? |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 11:33:21 AM EDT
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There are people on this board who support this type of thing so why is it a surprise that NYPD does this? Dig up the Freddie Gray thread and look at all the supporters and defenders of this law.
I think the kidnappers should be in prison. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:06:12 PM EDT
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Never understand blaming the rank and file police officers for these incidents. Statistic based policing models are really what cause the problem. It isn't the guy pushing a radio car who came up with that model either. If you stopped pushing guys for stats, I would bet you have improved community relations,lowered crime, better morale, and a better quality of arrests. But instead, guys will take the first petty arrest that comes their way, or lock someone up that they otherwise wouldn't, because you have to feed the stat monster. Aggressive policing keeps crime down in the short term, even when the tactics may be edging the line of unconstitutional. What irks me is that the politicians who for years have pushed police departments to keep numbers down, and make more arrests as a way of quantifying their productivity, now want to turn around and make police the bad guy. They encouraged this stuff, they got elected off the results, now they want to jump on the "police are the real public enemy bandwagon".
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:09:14 PM EDT
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It isn't the guy pushing a radio car who came up with that model either. The guys pushing a radio car aren't the one making these arrests. As a matter of fact, very few guys in radio cars want to make any arrests. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:11:35 PM EDT
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Never understand blaming the rank and file police officers for these incidents. Statistic based policing models are really what cause the problem. It isn't the guy pushing a radio car who came up with that model either. If you stopped pushing guys for stats, I would bet you have improved community relations,lowered crime, better morale, and a better quality of arrests. But instead, guys will take the first petty arrest that comes their way, or lock someone up that they otherwise wouldn't, because you have to feed the stat monster. Aggressive policing keeps crime down in the short term, even when the tactics may be edging the line of unconstitutional. What irks me is that the politicians who for years have pushed police departments to keep numbers down, and make more arrests as a way of quantifying their productivity, now want to turn around and make police the bad guy. They encouraged this stuff, they got elected off the results, now they want to jump on the "police are the real public enemy bandwagon". I can blame them. No one put a gun to their head and made them do this. They chose to do it. Money is more important to these officers than that man's freedom. Fuck them, these officers are the enemy. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:18:03 PM EDT
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It's amazing to me how things in one State which aren't (and shouldn't be) a crime at all can be a felony in another State. Different have different laws. That's how things are supposed to work. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:24:44 PM EDT
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Its shit like this which has convinced me to move my entire family from this shithole
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:29:19 PM EDT
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Different have different laws. That's how things are supposed to work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's amazing to me how things in one State which aren't (and shouldn't be) a crime at all can be a felony in another State. Different have different laws. That's how things are supposed to work. No, individual rights are not supposed to be taken by any state. This is not "how things are supposed to work" |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:34:54 PM EDT
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Probably had an attitude while he was pulled over. Has to be some reason they randomly put the screws to the guy.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:37:09 PM EDT
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Probably had an attitude while he was pulled over. Has to be some reason they randomly put the screws to the guy. There is a reason. They are shit birds. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:43:32 PM EDT
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It's pretty silly to believe you can build any government system of the size of NYPD and it wouldn't act to perpetuate itself.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:44:42 PM EDT
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I can blame them. No one put a gun to their head and made them do this. They chose to do it. Yep, no one is forcing them into a plainclothes unit with an arrest quota. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:44:53 PM EDT
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Probably had an attitude while he was pulled over. Has to be some reason they randomly put the screws to the guy. It's their job. That's the reason. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:58:34 PM EDT
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The guys pushing a radio car aren't the one making these arrests. As a matter of fact, very few guys in radio cars want to make any arrests. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It isn't the guy pushing a radio car who came up with that model either. The guys pushing a radio car aren't the one making these arrests. As a matter of fact, very few guys in radio cars want to make any arrests. The entire fund, not the individual cops retirement. You fuck up, your coworkers suffer too. A self correcting system. Also add a cap to settlements. SC has a $300,000 cap on all law suits against state actions. Remember the Hwy Patrol officer that made national news two years ago for shooting the black guy that got stopped for no seat belt? They sued for millions, but it was capped at &300,000. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 12:59:46 PM EDT
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The entire fund, not the individual cops retirement. So mostly taxpayer's money, got it. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:06:23 PM EDT
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The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
The tree has gotten very thirsty, dry and prone to having its branches broken. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its shit like this which has convinced me to move my entire family from this shithole Heck they only locked the guy up. At least they didn't finger his asshole. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:21:32 PM EDT
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Yeah, 'cause shit like this only happens in NY. Heck they only locked the guy up. At least they didn't finger his asshole. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its shit like this which has convinced me to move my entire family from this shithole Heck they only locked the guy up. At least they didn't finger his asshole. 
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:24:23 PM EDT
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Its shit like this which has convinced me to move my entire family from this shithole Heck they only locked the guy up. At least they didn't finger his asshole. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Pics/cavity_zpsulzaep2z.png 
I was thinking of that poor guy in NM. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:30:22 PM EDT
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God forbid we have a knife that doesn't take two hands to open! Think of the children!!!! Switchblades and gravity knives are actually legal in NY for use while hunting and fishing with a valid hunting or fishing license. I'm surprised no one ever open carry type trolls in NYC with switchblades and fishing poles headed to the shore line. Section 265.20: Exemptions 6. Possession of a switchblade or gravity knife for use while hunting, trapping or fishing by a person carrying a valid license issued to him pursuant to section 11-0713 of the environmental conservation law. - See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/PEN/THREE/P/265/265.20#sthash.AwX2Qpse.dpuf |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:32:49 PM EDT
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Flick test is bullshit. Inertia and gravity are two different things. Somebody needs to be a litigious pitbull and make NYC regret ever coming up with that criteria. Simple science.
$12,500 is nothing. The city pays out millions for stupid shit like slip and fall annually. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:33:59 PM EDT
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I'm surprised no one ever open carry type trolls in NYC with switchblades and fishing poles headed to the shore line. Edit: Actually would be ok under NYC's knife law because of "used for hunting, fishing, camping, hiking" but you'd have to worry about blade length. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:35:03 PM EDT
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I'm surprised no one ever open carry type trolls in NYC with switchblades and fishing poles headed to the shore line. Illegal under NYC law. Everything seems to be illegal under NYC law. 
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:36:11 PM EDT
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I'm surprised no one ever open carry type trolls in NYC with switchblades and fishing poles headed to the shore line. Illegal under NYC law. Everything seems to be illegal under NYC law. I edited it for now while I read through their mess of laws. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:36:56 PM EDT
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Da fuq, you can't have a pocket knife in NY? Fuck that place.....again!
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:39:11 PM EDT
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Flick test is bullshit. Inertia and gravity are two different things. Somebody needs to be a litigious pitbull and make NYC regret ever coming up with that criteria. Simple science. $12,500 is nothing. The city pays out millions for stupid shit like slip and fall annually. Surprisingly the gravity knife bullshit has pissed off the dems in Albany. That is why these arrests are getting so much media attention. The dems tried to pass a bill to get rid of the gravity knife bullshit but the republicans blocked the bill. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:44:11 PM EDT
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Surprisingly the gravity knife bullshit has pissed off the dems in Albany. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Flick test is bullshit. Inertia and gravity are two different things. Somebody needs to be a litigious pitbull and make NYC regret ever coming up with that criteria. Simple science. $12,500 is nothing. The city pays out millions for stupid shit like slip and fall annually. Surprisingly the gravity knife bullshit has pissed off the dems in Albany. More like pissed of their constituents. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:44:58 PM EDT
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Somebody needs to be a litigious pitbull and make NYC regret ever coming up with that criteria. Not just NYC. http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/buffalo/three-arrested-in-car-for-having-gravity-knife-and-marijuana-20140206 http://roc.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110214/NEWS05/110211036/EAST-ROCHESTER-POLICE-reports-Weapon-possession https://local.nixle.com/alert/5282789/ |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 1:59:56 PM EDT
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Da fuq, you can't have a pocket knife in NY? Fuck that place.....again! You can, but it has to be concealed, like not even an exposed pocket clip. It cannot be able to be flicked open one handed and you have to be careful where you pulled it out or you can be charged with "brandishing". |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 2:01:06 PM EDT
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Somebody needs to be a litigious pitbull and make NYC regret ever coming up with that criteria. Not just NYC. http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/buffalo/three-arrested-in-car-for-having-gravity-knife-and-marijuana-20140206 http://roc.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110214/NEWS05/110211036/EAST-ROCHESTER-POLICE-reports-Weapon-possession https://local.nixle.com/alert/5282789/ Shit, that state is just diseased now. 
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Posted: 10/8/2015 2:04:43 PM EDT
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You can, but it has to be concealed, like not even an exposed pocket clip. It cannot be able to be flicked open one handed and you have to be careful where you pulled it out or you can be charged with "brandishing". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Da fuq, you can't have a pocket knife in NY? Fuck that place.....again! You can, but it has to be concealed, like not even an exposed pocket clip. It cannot be able to be flicked open one handed and you have to be careful where you pulled it out or you can be charged with "brandishing". There's no such charge. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 2:08:33 PM EDT
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So in other words, mostly taxpayer's funds. You think a regular cop pays in the $1.5+ million they get from their pension? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lawsuit payoffs should come from Police Pension funds. So in other words, mostly taxpayer's funds. You think a regular cop pays in the $1.5+ million they get from their pension? 1.5 Million in each cops individual retirement account? Hey, thats decent pay for selling out the very people they are sworn to protect. Or do they even take an oath anymore? Yep, enjoy your retirement, hope when the country burns it doesn't inconvenience them any. Probaby still won't give any fucks, " Meh, long as the check keep clearing. Lol. 
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Posted: 10/8/2015 2:09:36 PM EDT
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Never heard the term gravity knife before.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 2:12:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2015 2:40:45 PM EDT
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Da fuq, you can't have a pocket knife in NY? Fuck that place.....again! You can, but it has to be concealed, like not even an exposed pocket clip. It cannot be able to be flicked open one handed and you have to be careful where you pulled it out or you can be charged with "brandishing". There's no such charge. Knowing NYC it's probably termed "menacing" or "threatening". |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 2:53:42 PM EDT
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Never heard the term gravity knife before. They are knives that were designed for cutting parachute lines and operated one handed. You open a lever, push the lever while pointing the knife down and the blade falls open, releasing the lever locks the blade in the open position. They were issued to German parachutists (fallshirmjager) and make terrible combat knives as they're relatively short bladed and kinda blunt. American paratroopers used switchblades. Noo Yawk has adapted the term to mean any knife that can be flicked open by an inertial wrist snap which isn't at all how gravity knives work.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 2:54:03 PM EDT
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Knowing NYC it's probably termed "menacing" or "threatening". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Da fuq, you can't have a pocket knife in NY? Fuck that place.....again! You can, but it has to be concealed, like not even an exposed pocket clip. It cannot be able to be flicked open one handed and you have to be careful where you pulled it out or you can be charged with "brandishing". There's no such charge. Knowing NYC it's probably termed "menacing" or "threatening". NYS has menacing but they'd have to show you took it out with the "intention of placing or attempting to place another person in reasonable fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death". |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 2:56:50 PM EDT
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NYS has menacing but they'd have to show you took it out with the "intention of placing or attempting to place another person in reasonable fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Da fuq, you can't have a pocket knife in NY? Fuck that place.....again! You can, but it has to be concealed, like not even an exposed pocket clip. It cannot be able to be flicked open one handed and you have to be careful where you pulled it out or you can be charged with "brandishing". There's no such charge. Knowing NYC it's probably termed "menacing" or "threatening". NYS has menacing but they'd have to show you took it out with the "intention of placing or attempting to place another person in reasonable fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death". I guess that interpretation would be up to the accuser...cutting a thread off your jacket would be a menacing gesture on the G train to some douche.
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Posted: 10/8/2015 3:13:22 PM EDT
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Article doesn't say the race of cops, but I wouldn't be shocked to find out they were NOT the white boys you're imagining. They tout being the most ethnically diverse department in the country and it isn't like white guys have the exclusive on being dicks Wouldn't be a surprise, less than 50% of the department is white. |
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Posted: 10/8/2015 3:21:47 PM EDT
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Do you understand how FUCKING EXPENSIVE it is to live in and around Screw York? I do not condone what these cops do or did, but at some level I understand why they do what they do. It's human instinct to survive in your habitat....... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This shit makes me feel like ZERO sympathy for a nypd'r no matter what, they really seem to be a foreign army systematically waging war against the constitution for overtime pay. Do you understand how FUCKING EXPENSIVE it is to live in and around Screw York? I do not condone what these cops do or did, but at some level I understand why they do what they do. It's human instinct to survive in your habitat....... |
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